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8:00 PM
Oh wait, we are on the internet. Never mind.
 
@Drise when will you learn? If you don't have anything relevant/constructive, don't comment ...
 
@sehe I always comment on drive by linkers.
 
@ereOn It's not about your profession. It is about the professionality of this site. You chose to 'tell the truth'. This particular brand of truth is frowned upon in this community. Adapt! — user22394 1 min ago
 
@ereOn Nobody.
 
I just read that Swedish Lunchlady article.
 
8:01 PM
@Drise In chat, fine. A bit less abrasive, finer. Not on the question. It is irrelevant there.
 
@Drise: If you don't care, well, fair enough. That's off-topic for sure. Like a lot of other things on this chat. Also, go ahead and downvote, I don't really care about my ServerFault reputation you know ;)
 
Are the Swedish municipalities just bored?
"This Lunch food... IS TOO AMAZING."
"HOW DARE YOU."
 
@ereOn Yes, but you're barging in and asking completely off topic things to the current conversation. Also, asking us a meta question is likely to give you a sour taste.
 
Your caps lock key...
It's stuck
 
@ereOn I can change that if you like. If you insist on bothering us, then please, continue.
 
8:02 PM
@ThePhD That's nice. She's a simple and clear option: call your headhunter
 
@ThePhD don't suppose she's related to the swedish chef?
 
@Drise Please, Drise. Could you consider a timeout? No need to escalate
@melak47 lol
 
@sehe I've been on a timeout for a week and a half. is that not enough?
It just made me more bitter.
 
@Drise: You have the authority to speak for "us" ? Good to know :D
 
@Drise You should eat a jolly rancher or something.. you sound like you need a little pick-me-up
 
8:04 PM
@Drise ereOn is a medium frequent visitor in the lounge. He has every right to open an informal discussion of culture/community on SO/SE. This happens all the time. We specificly asked what happened on SF
 
@Collin I already had one this morning. :/
@sehe Fair enough. I'll be off then. Good day folks.
 
@ereOn try to let it go for a moment. This is a storm in a cup
@Drise Okay... Sleep well (I guess? forget TZ/locality, sry)
 
@sehe: Thanks.
 
WTF? I go away for a coffee and the Lounge is on fire?
 
Not really ;)
 
8:06 PM
@ereOn Erm... you're welcome (I didn't do anything)
 
@sehe: You recognized my existence, which today, is one of the nicest things that happened to me :p
 
@MartinJames I think we're rather fine. About 1 page of scroll on my monitor, I wager. And nothing overly violent :0
 
Gah, I fucking hate it when websites try to detect what language I use. English will be fine, thanks!
 
@ereOn Oh. You are welcome then :)
 
@sehe I think he wants to sleep with you. Which is understandable in my book.
 
8:07 PM
@ereOn you're awesome!
 
@melak47 Mmm. My sites honour my preferences (the one I set in my system locale). But, I'm not German, and Germans lipsynch their movies too... so
 
@LuchianGrigore: Haha thanks :p
 
@EtiennedeMartel Erm. Bien volontiers?
 
@sehe that's the thing. my system locale is english, my OS is english, my keyboard pretends to be english
 
@melak47 So, German sites are just pushy. What do they use then. GeoIP? Seems a bit 'expensive'
 
8:09 PM
Oneday, my name will have a .k next to it. And I will be a powerful Stackoverflower, basking in the thousand-based privileges I have so clearly earned.
 
@ThePhD ThePhDK? The Ph. Dick?
 
@ThePhD ThePhD.k ?
 
@melak47 also quite successful illustrative
 
Woops. I meant next to my name's number.
 
@ThePhD LOL
 
8:10 PM
@LuchianGrigore Vladimir Lazarenko - sounds familiar to me, too. Now I gotta check my old business cards...
 
Though, actually.
 
@ThePhD Too late now
 
@MartinJames I think I know him from SO... must have answered some of the same questions...
 
@sehe I mean, who wouldn't want to snuggle with a polar bear?
 
ThePhD actually has a second meaning to it that's kind of like the PhDick. It's [The] [Ph]antom [D]erpstorm, because I keep messing shit up in online games when I play with my buddies.
 
8:11 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Ah. Comme ça
 
THey'll all see, though. I'll be better than them. One day. Eventually.
 
Yeah. Because, the dead have no flaws.
 
@ThePhD Even jokes should aspire to more than that.
 
why do I always end up with a couple unrecognized devices like this...
 
Blue Pill.
 
8:14 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Those who don't want to be eaten.
 
it says it's on a USB port..
but I only have 4 USB devices and they all work
 
user1182183
Anyone know how to power this device up? :/
http://gz.pxf24.pl/device/1
http://gz.pxf24.pl/device/2
http://gz.pxf24.pl/device/3
http://gz.pxf24.pl/device/4 It's the backlight from an LCD screen
 
@VladLazarenko Well, different countries, different pricings. I don't really care.
 
@melak47 Windows
 
@sehe ...yeah.
 
8:17 PM
@melak47 Internal devices (like onboard Wifi) are frequently actually USB
 
@sehe no onboard wifi
this is a desktop :/
 
@melak47 It was just an example. You know: "like"
Mankind simply isn't ready for these kinds of questions yet. — FredOverflow 15 hours ago
 
@FredOverflow Better!
 
^ you guys made me wade through 6 feet of (removed) messages to find that?
@melak47 My desktop has onboard wifi. And it happens to be USB. (P5b Deluxe/Wifi)
 
I'm off for beer less my posts get removed. Bye for now..
 
8:20 PM
@MartinJames They don't get removed, unless you do it
 
@sehe hmm, I think my board is supposed to have Bluetooth.
 
@melak47 Those are frequently USB. You know, them nano-USB adaptors are so cheap, they'll just bake the USB circuitry into the same chip and it wouldn't make economical sense to design a different formfactor/interface for onboard use
 
@sehe guess that only leaves the PCI Simple Communications Controller
 
@melak47 Just go onto windows update to find drivers. Or whip out your OEM/vendor driver disk (long time since I used one. Linux has no such flaws. (you just have to figure it out always, if you have exotic hardware - lol))
 
@sehe nah it's cool, I don't want bluetooth
 
8:24 PM
I attempted to categorize sorting algorithms: ideone.com/msdHx it's less clear/obvious than I thought it would be. Also learned a few new ones.
 
@melak47 Or vice versa. Get the vendor/device id's from the (advanced) properties page for those two items. Should be a combination like 1d6b:0002 or 04f9:0022 (brother) or 0582:0074 (roland), 046d:c016 (logitech)
@melak47 These numbers are very very easy to google in that format. You'll find windows and linux drivers at a glance
 
user1182183
Hmm I'm registering on a electician forum cuz I need help.. one question is: What electrical qualifications do you have? "electrocuting myself with 1800 volts from a camera" - is that enough? xD
 
hey guys
 
Hi @MooingDuck
 
user1182183
Seriously, 2-3 months no birthdays and now my calendar explodes with them, every 3-4 days a birthday!
 
8:29 PM
@GamErix you might inform them that you run on electricity, which is true in a literal sense. also, that it's electricity that holds you together. also literally true.
 
user1182183
I'm going down to bancrupcy
 
user1182183
@Cheersandhth.-Alf ^.^
 
@Gam-Erix how much do you spend at each party?
 
@MooingDuck i always get confused when i try to think of shell sort or heap sort. something not clean there.
 
user1182183
@Griallia probbly 6h
 
user1182183
8:31 PM
at least
 
money wise?
 
user1182183
Ow well if I need to do it the not-going-to-bancrupcy day, at least 10 euro
 
can't picture a birthday party every 4 days
 
Oh my. I'm lazy. I'm getting to the point where I choose to #include <cstdio> for simple illustrations, just to get away from std::cout << ... :O
 
i think it was doug mcilroy who wrote a paper (not so very long ago!) about how to guaranteed foil quicksort. he made a kind of dynamic quicksort antagonist. it always made the algorithm behave in baddest way, O(square)
 
8:32 PM
@GamErix No, it's not enough. Making clear that you realize that 1800 volts was really from the flash, not the camera proper, might help a bit though.
 
Radix sort ftw
 
user1182183
@JerryCoffin Well I forgot the capacitors were loaded and I forgot to "unload" them
 
user1182183
while disasembling the camera..
 
the voltage isn't so important, the resistance in the circuit (or in other words, the amps you get) is. but voltage can give nice shock...
 
user1182183
8:34 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf It threw me to the other side of my room xD
 
i have always been skeptical of electrical chairs
 
@GamErix ouch, how much charge was it?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf yeah. but there are anti-dotes, IIRC
 
nowadays every car has electrical chairs
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf In the case of a flash, it can be enough to not only give a jolt, but char the skin.
 
user1182183
8:34 PM
@Griallia not much but I only measured the volts, 1800
 
user1182183
1768 to be precise...
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf actually, the amount of power residu (the actual capacity of the capacitors). The higher the voltage, the lower the current in that respect. Current is what kills hurts you
@JerryCoffin whouch. you tried?
 
user1182183
@sehe hurts, until it reaches 80 mA
 
@Griallia The one built into a camera isn't usually very big (470 uF is pretty common, if memory serves). Grab one from a studio flash and you won't forget it (ever!)
 
8:37 PM
Hi im working on a cheese code
 
user1182183
Anyway I want to mount a LCD backlight onto my bicycle
 
user1182183
so I need to know how to power it up
 
@sehe No, but I've seen it happen. Ironically, couldn't take a picture because it was at night, and I had a camera but no flash handy.
 
user1182183
(Yes I have had crazy Ideas before for my bike which actuall did make)
 
470 uF, that's not too bad, still not fun although.
 
8:38 PM
@Rapptz It's @sehe we're talking about here.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf sure, but few actually use quicksort anymore. It's all introsort and timsort and such whatnot.
 
@MooingDuck hm. teach me about those one day, okay?
 
user1182183
I did mount 4 12V halogen lamps, and a 12V mini battery pack, it lasted for 6h until a recharge was needed
 
timsort?
 
@Griallia yes, I've always been irked that we put so much emphasis on comparison sorts.
 
user1182183
8:39 PM
but, The faces from all drivers! Unforgettable
 
@MooingDuck Especially with GPUs and Branch Prediction, less comparison, the better.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf timsort is a modified merge sort, and introsort is quicksort to a depth of 32ish, then heapsort or insert sort from there.
@Griallia er, I'm not certain radix sort helps that much. Maybe it does. Whoa, maybe it does. Now I must write a branchless quicksort.
 
@MooingDuck oh, in the old days we just called that "quicksort": it wouldn't be very quick if you went on partitioning all the way down
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf officially that's a "introsort". Yes, a "pure quicksort" isn't a good idea.
 
kay thanks
!
 
8:41 PM
@EtiennedeMartel thanks for the support. You're a true friend. Copain!
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Don't know why I repeated what you said. Sorry.
 
huh, anyway, congratz on marriage
it was you yes?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf yes, thanks
 
@JerryCoffin A little too handy, it might appear
 
8:43 PM
Know of a good sort to use on mostly sorted data?
 
Check out this link for my code ideone.com/lnkHp
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf timely :)
@BrandonDamante Wut.
 
@sehe what dont you understand
 
@BrandonDamante y u use C.
 
@Griallia Timsort, a few others. combsort?
 
8:45 PM
It's awesome and I haven't learned C++ yet
 
The C in C++ is for cancer. C++ would be much better without the C part.
 
@BrandonDamante what should we be looking at in the code?
 
Idk just for fun
 
@BrandonDamante You use C arrays and char arrays instead of std::vector<std::string> so it is not awesome. It sucks.
 
DONT YOU TARNISH THE NAME OF C!!! lol
I want to learn C++ but I haven't yet
 
8:47 PM
Learn Haskell instead.
 
Because Haskell is superior to X.
 
Ummmm what is X
 
X refers to everything I assume
 
X can be anything. It is a placeholder.
 
8:49 PM
Just ignore him, another my language is better then yours troll.
 
Like in Haskell; sq x = x * x.
 
@Griallia ???
 
I'm refering to daknok.
 
8
A: Writing a program to get (L1) cache line size

Alex DAllocate a BIG char array (make sure it is too big to fit in L1 or L2 cache). Fill it with random data. Start walking over the array in steps of n bytes. Do something with the retrieved bytes, like summing them. Benchmark and calculate how many bytes/second you can process with different values...

 
^ almost clean playing
 
8:51 PM
"When n == your cache line size, each access will require reading a new line into the L1 cache." This won't work, right? A line that is candidate to overwrite another line isn't required to. It can just load it in another line in that set, right?
 
Xeo
> People say that if you need a destructor then you actually need an overloaded operator
the fuck
0
Q: Is an overloaded operator required at this example?

Viniyo ShoutaPeople say that if you need a destructor then you actually need an overloaded operator struct longlife{ }; class z { z(){}; ~z(){ for( auto it=hold.begin();it!=hold.end() ++it ) delete(*it); }; vector<longlife*> hold; }; Suppose all pointer inserted on hold were newheap allocated, why...

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The first rule about the Rule of Three is that you should rather abide by the Rule of Zero. — Kerrek SB 37 secs ago
lol
 
I brain just melted
 
Whoa
while (std::getline(my_ifstream, s)) linebuf.push_back(s); would do the same. Still doesn't answer the question, though — sehe 16 secs ago
 
Asked on meta.serverfault why only profesionnals sysadmins could ask questions on serverfault : got even more downvoted. Not sure why their meta is for right now.
 
Some people... obviously come from a C background and/or don't think about performance
 
8:54 PM
@daknøk Why don't you invent a language called ++ then? ;)
 
@ereOn Don't ask why. Did you read my comment? Did you understand the logic there?
 
@FredOverflow I’m still working on daklang, but I haven’t worked on it lately.
It’s like C without all the C crap.
 
So... rap? :)
 
Fred is punny.
 
@sehe: I understand them closing my first question. But my question about why it is so ?
Isn't it what meta is for ?
Debating over the rules ?
 
8:56 PM
Meta is for getting your feature requests and bug reports closed as .
 
@daknøk: There also is a discussion tag.
:p
 
@BrandonDamante Why are you posting this here? Without any introduction? see the niewbie-hints
 
Sorry, didn't notice the humour. I'm too tired.
 
is a waste of time, like politics.
 
@ereOn Good point. Although, on [M.SE] you get downvotes if people disagree. No reason to panic.
 
8:58 PM
Anyway, I deleted them both.
 
I dislike how the rule of zero causes confusing error messages on MSVC :/
 
@sehe better now?
 
Next time I have a sysadmin related question, I will create a smurf account and pretend I'm a junior sysadmin.
 
@MooingDuck ?! It doesn't
@daknøk yeah. a bit
 
I know that feel.
 
8:59 PM
@sehe class A {A&operator=(A&nocopy);}; struct B{A a;}; int main() {B b = B();} should cause "cannot generate copy constructor" but it won't tell you where the copy is.
 

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