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11:00 PM
most of the time, I'm a pretty nice guy, but I can make some very nasty comments if I'm in a bad mood, e.g. sleepy
although I definitely qualify for activity
 
@DeadMG I think we all have our bad days.
 
hmm
I could nominate myself, I guess
what's the harm, right?
 
We would like that. =)
 
@karlphillip I too am disturbed by the fact that almost all moderators are C# or Java
 
@RafeKettler I know what you mean.
 
11:02 PM
I don't see why that matters. It's very rare that there is any conflict because a moderator has some other area of expertise.
 
@karlphillip I'd like to see someone from C++ and someone from Python. if only Alex Martelli would run
@JamesMcNellis lack of moderation for tags that really need moderating
 
mod work at SO may not be what one thinks. what I've seen of Jeff so far has been (1) posting job offer reviewing a book, (2) helping remove inadvertent postings of proprietary code, and (3) helping remove a mob-frenzy discussion. much work, but very silently, background, nothing directly involved in discussions (as far as I've seen)
 
man
 
@JamesMcNellis That's because you are a Generalist and participate in every single tag available on SO. But regular users only read the tags they are interested in.
 
what do I say about myself to nominate myself? who came up with this idea?
 
11:03 PM
@DeadMG Me.
 
right
you go write my nomination then
I'm gonna go back to coding
 
@DeadMG Actually it wasnt me.
 
@karlphillip I only answer C and C+ questions. I am by no means a generalist :-) (I don't even have the Generalist badge!)
(Ok; I've answered like three C# questions too, and one of those was to complain about how C# isn't more like C++.)
 
@JamesMcNellis They should give you one, anyway.
 
I wish Alex Martelli would run but I suspect he wouldn't have the time
 
11:05 PM
@RafeKettler I don't understand. For the most part, the C++ tag is fairly well moderated. There's a pretty good group of core people that are familiar with most of the duplicates and/or questions to which people should be referred, and I think that group of people does a fairly good job of making sure that questions are disposed of appropriately.
 
the important issue here
is that @FredNurk doesn't have a Gravatar
he just has some measly mandala
 
sbi
What's up with those greyish nominations? have they been deleted? By the posters?
 
they look like it to me
 
@sbi I was wondering that myself. There was also an odd nomination dated 2001...
 
that's what happens when I see answers downvoted by more than once or twice
 
11:07 PM
@JamesMcNellis C++ isn't too bad, Python (which is more my bread and butter) is very bad, as are some of the common associated tags (regex, etc.)
@sbi dunno what it is but it annoys me
 
Hahahah @JamesMcNellis has a bronze bagde for the homework tag. Congrats, dude! That's more rare then some of the gold badges.
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rofl
well played
even I have a gold C++ badge
 
I still have to earn the bronze badge first. PRobably sometime next week.
 
I am a stack overflow noob -.- i only have 7 badges lol
 
@CharlesRay gtfo this is only for seasoned SO users ;)
 
11:13 PM
yeah
the chat defines "seasoned" as 20 or more rep
 
anyone here working at Google?
 
@RafeKettler i have 94..
 
@DeadMG which could easily happen by accident
@CharlesRay just trollin
 
@Rafe: banhamm0r!!one1!eleven
 
i didnt use SO for months and months.. just started getting into it
 
11:14 PM
@CharlesRay Even if you had 4.000 , you would still think you are a noob. Trust me.
 
Where do I find the list of users who want to be moderators? Link please.
 
@DeadMG you had that link real handy
 
it's called tabbed browsing
I have another tab open on it
 
@DeadMG just scroll down.
 
11:14 PM
welcome to the year 2000!
 
or rather
every SO page yo open practically has it at the top
and I happened to have a tab with it ready
like
any tab on any SO page that isn't the chat
like the question I asked and my user page
 
> I want to be a moderator, thats all. I just whant to and it means maybe nothing to you, but a lot for me. I don't know how can I prove you that I am an appropriate person except of showing how big my desire is. So I've drawn a picture:
LOL
 
FredOverflow for Moderator!
 
hah
 
Too bad it got deleted :)
 
11:16 PM
I love that one
 
@JamesMcNellis Indeed.
 
@JamesMcNellis That was just a quote, not my words :)
 
he's certainly the only one who posted a picture
 
@DeadMG yes, that has to count for something, right?
 
wasting server disk space
 
11:17 PM
exactly!
 
@FredOverflow That's ok. You could still be a moderator :-)
 
Anyone here interested in FPS games?
 
what, developing them, or in general?
 
I <3 Halo.
 
CS:S TF2 DOD:S
 
11:18 PM
@DeadMG DEvelopment. Even if its just cheat development.
 
@JamesMcNellis I agree with what you wrote. C++ is already fairly well moderated, I don't see any need for an "official" mod.
 
Oh. Nevermind. I <3 playing Halo.
 
@JamesMcNellis Does Halo have an introductory tutorial? A "Halo World", if you will? ;-)
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lol
I'm not terribly interested in developing an FPS
I already have a different game type and a new language on the back burner
 
@FredOverflow Nice.
 
11:20 PM
@karlphillip TF2 and CS (used to play CAL-m)
 
I probably can't run more back projects concurrently and don't have any ideas for it
 
@DeadMG use erlang
 
heh
no way
DeadMG++ is built by DeadMG, for DeadMG
replace "built" with "slowly developed, alpha one compiler in six years"
 
First, I was interested in playing games. Then I was interested in programming games. Then I was interested in general programming. Then I was interested in programming languages. And finally I got stuck with C++, because there is just so much you can learn about it.
Programming in C++ is sometimes tedious, but never boring :)
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@FredO: That's pretty close to me
 
11:22 PM
@FredOverflow try D on for size
 
we got our first PC when I was three years old
running Windows 3.1
 
@DeadMG ouch
 
my father taught me some QBasic
 
Dead age?
 
Note: I haven't done any "useful" programming in years. I just love to fumble with template meta-programming and stuff :)
 
11:22 PM
20 now
 
I'm 22 and that sounds about right for me too
i think i was 5 though
 
heh
 
oh man, I can't wait to get out of jail again.
 
monopoly?
 
the only program I ever wrote in QBasic would query the user's name and then print an insult if you were a sibling of mine
 
11:23 PM
@karlphillip You have an Internet connection in jail? Lucky bastard.
 
wait, wait, wait
 
@DeadMG LOL
 
"again"?
 
I did vocabulary trainers and other typical BASIC stuff.
 
hey, I was three years old, give me a break
 
11:24 PM
@FredOverflow I'm actually playing Jedi Academy with some mods, heheh.
 
Funny story: my first PC was a Solaris workstation
if you can call that a PC
 
I had DarkBASIC when I was fourteen or so
but I didn't understand variable types
because int was implicit and worked for all my first programs
 
Has anyone ever heard of PLC programming around here?
 
@FredOverflow my character is in jail, not me. It was just a random thought. =)
 
so I never got further than drawing funny boxes and displaying some text
 
11:25 PM
no
 
@karlphillip Ah, so you're not really in jail, but only in a game. Reminds me of world of world of warcraft:
 
lol
I remember WOWOW, that was hilarious
 
lol
 
@FredOverflow aHUAHUauhauha
 
that video is still funny as shit :)
 
11:29 PM
lol thank you for that, had yet to see it until now
 
> The worst thing that can happen in the game is that your Avatar's Internet connection goes down, then you have to make your Avatar get on the phone with your Internet Service Provider...
 
lol
 
Ok ppl, I'm off to watch some jakeandamir episodes
 
@RafeKettler D doesn't have enough pitfalls ;-)
 
sbi
11:37 PM
@karlphillip A picture is worth a thousand words. That's even true when applied to weeding out moderation candidates. :)
 
@sbi It's also often worth several thousand bytes... ;-)
 
millions :P
 
man
the onion
 
dont get sucked in
 
just rofl
 
sbi
11:40 PM
@RafeKettler Yeah, try cup D if cup C++ gets too small. :)
@FredOverflow Haha!
 
have I mentioned that I dislike Direct3D?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow "...playing hundreds of hours every week..." Haha, what kind of week is that?
 
pretty sure each week is 168 hours
 
only pretty sure?
 
well I worked it out once but didn't need to remember it for a long time
so it got dumped in the useless data dump
 
sbi
11:46 PM
@DeadMG I worked that out when someone was baffled to hear I had been working >100hrs one week. (That was back when I was almost as young as you guys are now. And I did have one day off.)
 
bloody hell sbi, that's 17hours/day
or more
 
I think I may have played 100 hours of Civ V last week.
 
have I mentioned that I love unique_ptr?
 
so you had 8.5 hours to eat, sleep, and do every else for the week, assuming you slept 8 hours a day
 
sbi
@DeadMG I remember her asking "How do you work 100hrs in a week", and I said "You skip nights." She almost toppled over backwards. By that time I had stopped working for that company, due to their bad project management.
 
11:49 PM
lol
 
@DeadMG I don't think so. But yeah, unique_ptr<T> ftw!
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis I don't think I ever did that, not even with Civ1.
 
it just makes me feel better to look at my unique_ptrs and my shared_ptrs and think yeah, I really thought about this and didn't just throw shared_ptr at the problem
 
Yes. I don't like the "share everything by default" Java and C# class semantics btw.
If some method returns a T, you have no idea if that T belongs to you or is shared and might be modified by someone else.
 
@sbi Actually, it tells me I played 45 hours, so that's a bit less than 100. Still way too much, though.
 
sbi
11:50 PM
@JamesMcNellis I used to play Civ3 a lot, too. ("Lemme jus' play one more turn before I go to bed...") I have Civ4 here, but never really played it. Instead I kept playing Civ3. Now I hear good things about Civ5.
 
overplaying is one of the main reasons I started coding
 
sbi
So I'm considering. But it is dangerous. Very dangerous.
 
@FredOverflow "Share everything by default, oh, and everyone can modify everything because there is no constness."
 
I used to run 1pm-7am on a work (well, school) day
 
I play StackOverflow a lot. Some say too much :)
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11:51 PM
lol
 
Dangerous is a good word for it. I was lucky to have been able to kill my WoW habit after only three months of playing.
 
I mean, 1am-7am for sleeping, 9am-3pm for school, and ten hours of hardcore gaming in the meantime
 
@FredOverflow It is a terrific MMO.
 
sbi
Anyway, speaking of which - my alarm goes off in 6,5hrs and I have to bully the kids out the door. So I'd better go to bed.
See you!
 
ah, WoW never did it for me, I got lucky
night sbi
I always found the game much too repetitive
I hated the way I would succeed in the top challenges of the time, and then have to go back and do it again and again and again to gear up and move on to the newly patched in challenges
 
11:53 PM
That's basically why I quit. I didn't get into the social aspects of the game very much and got bored with it.
 
plus
I think of how much money it cost
and it's like
 
That, and I was much better at StackOverflow than at WoW.
 
well, that could be a new SSD or a new off-screen
whereas as a student, MSVC is free, SO is free
buy a few games in the Steam Christmas sale for pennies
more importantly, I just didn't know what to do when not gaming
I had a girlfriend, and it wasn't that I neglected her for gaming, but I just didn't know how to entertain myself or her without playing games
and I realized that I was basically completely dependent on them to function
 
@DeadMG that's kinda how i feel right now..
 
what game are you addicted to?
 
11:59 PM
@DeadMG Not really any specific game, just having to play them in general
I do a lot of retro gaming a la emulators
 
the thing is, in my experience
people play games for a specific reason
 
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