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4:00 PM
Perhaps I can get a reversal badge from this one, now.
 
@Borgleader Not a chance in hell.
FWIW I have tossed some design considerations for such a beast into a text file, but I won't proceed further. I don't want to play real-life CoC.
 
So, question; how important are "unrelated interests" on a CV? Should one elaborate on it? eg, instead of just "Literature", would it be better to write what kind? Or do employers not care at all?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes CoC?
 
Call of Cthulhu RPG.
 
4:03 PM
@ThePhD It's a roundabout way of saying I value the SAN I have left.
 
I don't knwo what these acronyms mean.
But, okay. <3
 
> As the characters learn more of the true horrors of the world and the irrelevance of humanity, their sanity (represented by "Sanity Points", abbreviated SAN) inevitably withers away.
> Unlike most other role-playing games, eventual triumph of the players is not assumed.
 
Ah.
One of those lovecraftian blabbity blahs.
 
user142019
boo
 
4:07 PM
if anyone is bored I
 
Egpytian?
 
if anyone is bored I'd love some help :)
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15953387/query-iis-for-all-web-sites
 
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A: Using char array inside union

Domagoj PandžaUnderstanding unions First, let us learn what a union is... And what it is not. A union is: A way to allow memory reuse. That's it. A union is not: A way to cowboy-cast between elements of the union A way to cheat strict aliasing. Even MSDN's got it right: A union is a user-defined...

 
user142019
@ScottW good.
 
And SO finally provoked me into writing something.
 
4:08 PM
TL;DR
 
@Zoidberg zoidberg, is that you ?
 
user142019
No.
 
user142019
:facepalm:
 
@Zoidberg whats with your avatar ? it reminds me of girl panties
 
I recommend a cold shower.
 
4:10 PM
@DomagojPandža ... Um.
You haven't looked into my Vector2/3/4 code, have you? >.>
 
@ThePhD Let me guess, you're molesting unions :P
 
NOOOOO
Maybealittleyes....
 
user142019
@ScottW lolno :P
 
4:13 PM
I finally convinced everyone that v4.3.00 etc should be reserved for proper GA releases, with v4.3.01 and v4.3.02 being reserved for critical back-ported bug fixes for v4.3 only ..... and that interim builds could be something like v4.3~20130411 (I was bullied into v4.3.20130411). We have one component that's built in .NET. .NET version strings are forced into A-B-C-D format where A B C and D are all short uints. Giving us no flexibility.
Probably going to lose my version scheme >.< Fuck you, MS
 
user142019
@ScottW free foftware soundation
 
FSF = for the sake of fuck.
 
CRIES.
WHY
WHY DOES THIS ERROR HATE MEEE
 
user142019
Because everyone and everything hates you.
 
You're a union molester. That's why. :P
 
4:15 PM
Leave the unions out of it. :c
Besides, this is all SFINAE's fault.
 
user142019
Use PHP instead of C++.
 
user142019
Or PL/pgSQL.
 
...
Wait
WAAIT A SECOND
 
lol .. you are evil, zoidberg
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You put errors in my heart. <3
 
4:19 PM
....
I hate
I HATE
 
user142019
I hate you too.
 
#error :facepalm:
 
user142019
@ThePhD assign ≠ construct
 
so thanks for all the helpful suggestions
 
4:21 PM
@ThePhD What?
Naming a type NotCopyAssignable does not make it magically not copy assignable.
 
user142019
 
What the hell are you smoking?
 
I'm not smoking anything. :c
 
user142019
 
user142019
Dat visual pun.
 
4:22 PM
And how come it doesn't just print false?
 
Well, what the hell am I smoking?
 
+1 for a perfect biblical reference. — Captain Obvlious 14 mins ago
what's this about?
 
So, if I'd like to get in this repwhoring game, do I write short or detailed TL;DR answers?
 
@ThePhD Oh you mean Zoidberg's? Because suckage.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, Zoidbergs. :c
And, what do you mean suckage?
Isn't it supposed to either be true or false, not collosal failure?
 
Xeo
4:24 PM
private copy ctor == copy constructible
deleted copy ctor == not copy constructible
Zoidberg sucks. Exhibit A: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/…
 
@Xeo MSVC can only do private copy ctor. So does that mean the type_trait is utterly useless?
Does that mean I'll have to do weird shitty base-class specializations to make this work? =/
 
Xeo
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Q: To what extent can be this a bad practice? [circular dependence]

Peregring-lk(First and foremost, sorry for my English) In order to avoid the syntactic limitation of circular dependence, I want to know if the following proposed solution is really a solution or if it has more disadventages than adventages (let's me suposse that this mutual dependence is inavoidable): Ori...

 
Oooh, a contortionism show. I should get some popcorn.
 
Xeo
I thought the [...] stuff was from SO...
That'd be fun. One question closed as the dupe of another, and vice versa
@ThePhD :3
 
4:27 PM
=/
Fuck your Sandy Vagina Cunt, Microsoft.
Fuck you to hell.
 
so don't use it
nobody is forcing you to.
 
Gee, let me just whip out my DirectX 11 and Windows 7/8 API on G++ and get crackin'.
2
._.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah, of course. forgot I wrote that :)
 
@ThePhD you don't have to use DirectX either
 
@BartekBanachewicz =l
 
4:30 PM
I was honestly surprised that you used that expression without being aware of the episode.
 
That doesn't solve my inherit problems with movability.
 
that's third stupid and meaningless emoticon you posted.
@ThePhD you can use g++ and OpenGL.
which work on virtually every hardware and OS
 
@ThePhD You should get update 2 and use the blue theme.
 
good point.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Isn't that where ThePhD started?
 
4:31 PM
@ThePhD you recognized that Xeo is playing tricks on you?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm aware of it. I forgot that I'd written the phrase.
 
@MartinJames I don't know. I think I don't even want to, either.
 
Let's just go find out...
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I like the "doggamn"
 
Anyway, at this point, differences between capabilities of OGL and Dx are noticeable to really experienced developers, like Epic Games and @Domagoj
 
Xeo
4:32 PM
@bamboon Wut?
 
so I really see no reason in going into trouble of supporting Dx if you are making something relatively simple
 
@Xeo well, you used a different type trait
 
@Xeo For the yanks
 
@Xeo but ok, I get what you mean now
 
Xeo
@bamboon Zoidberg's
 
4:35 PM
@Xeo oops sry, I didn't scroll up enough.
 
A zit of Zoidbergs
 
Nope.
Xeo isn't trolling me.
 
MSVC is dumb as shit.
 
@DomagojPandža :)
 
4:36 PM
am I wrong or static if is not in C++14 ? from what I read it is just cosmetic changes to core language ?
 
I like how "writing answers on Stack Overflow" is universally considered to be rep-whoring these days
@NoSenseEtAl static if???
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit inDeeD
 
@NoSenseEtAl bjarne doesn't want it all
 
@NoSenseEtAl I don't think there's a frozen C++14 feature list yet
(As if it'll be released next year)
 
4:38 PM
I guess I can write an explicit MoveIndexableDictionary.
No harm in biting that bullet, I guess.
 
Once 4.3 materializes in drivers proper, OGL and D3D will be even-matched, too bad OGL took so long to bring compute shaders to the table. Until then, the best compute simulation with OGL is issuing dummy draw calls and tracking with vertex IDs ( gl_VertexID ) as a way of identifying "threads".
 
argh FU Herb for lying to my face when I watched your presentation and you said standardization is accelerating, not slowing down :(
 
@ThePhD why do you keep your code in Dropbox folder?
 
Xeo
@NoSenseEtAl It's massively accelerating, actually.
 
Scratch projects go in the dropbox folder.
 
4:39 PM
@DomagojPandža still, these are the features @ThePhD doesn't use
 
@Xeo is it also parallel ? [\amp jokes]
 
@ThePhD why not gist?
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Ayup, EWG, ELWG, CWG, LWG :D
 
I should keep track of annoying things in tools and languages and stuff
 
Xeo
4:40 PM
Also, many subgroups
 
@Xeo wait, what?
 
> /usr/bin/ld: note: 'u_tolower_51' is defined in DSO /usr/lib/libicuuc.so.51 so try adding it to the linker command line
Is this new?
 
@Xeo 3 years for nothing is slower than 13 y for something :)
 
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Q: When initializing a struct with ={} syntax, what's happening under the hood?

Brian VandenbergA little code then the question (just to clarify, this is a C++ question): #include <cstdio> typedef struct MYSTRUCT1 { int asdf[4]; } MyStruct1; typedef struct MYSTRUCT2 { int asdf[4]; MYSTRUCT2() : asdf() {} } MyStruct2; template <class T> void test() { T blah = {{1,-1,1,-1}}; fo...

people still writing main() {}
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've never seen it
 
Xeo
4:41 PM
@BartekBanachewicz WG = Working Group, so.. Evolution WG, Evolution Library WG, Core WG, Library WG
 
@Xeo I still totally don't get what's it about
 
Xeo
@NoSenseEtAl Wut
 
Meh, whatever.
MoveIndexableList.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz C++ Standard working groups
 
Fuck MSVC.
If I ever get the chance to sneak by the compiler group's building at Microsoft...
I don't care if I never get anther job in there again.
I'm gonna rant my shirt off.
 
4:42 PM
@Xeo 11-98 , 14-11, btw so n3329 is out for cpp 14?
 
13 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
so don't use it
 
@ThePhD Group would indicate they're organized. :$
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, it works like that.
 
vim-fugitive is cool.
 
15 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
nobody is forcing you to.
 
Xeo
4:44 PM
 
@NoSenseEtAl "cpp 14" are you shitting me
@BartekBanachewicz It's called a "job", dumbfuck
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no, it's not his job, IIRC. If you are forced to use MSVS in work, that's a different story
We are allowed to code in whatever the fuck we want to
so, uh.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sometimes.
 
You guys use CTP in production code?
 
lol, production code.
 
4:45 PM
@BartekBanachewicz But, if you want to produce a DirectX-powered game, you're basically stuck on Windows.
 
Xeo
@DomagojPandža Nah, that's my toy project
 
@DomagojPandža What is "CTP"?
 
15 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@ThePhD you can use g++ and OpenGL.
 
Xeo
Where I throw all the stuff in, that I want to try out
 
do I really have to repeat everything I said just because you are too lazy to read up?
 
4:46 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Not if you want to produce a DirectX-powered game
@BartekBanachewicz No, don't repeat it. It's not that I'm too lazy to read up, it's that I read it the first time and correctly dismissed your words as irrelevant nonsense
 
@DomagojPandža nope. it's sorta taboo
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Community Technology Preview, Microsoft's way of appeasing the disgruntled C++11 programmers desiring support and using the "Preview" part of it to throw away any and all liability.
 
At this point, it's not DirectX vs. OpenGL or me sticking my guns to anything.
I've been working on this for a while.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit how is providing a reasonable alternative "irrelevant nonsense"?
 
@DomagojPandža however for small tools it's fine
 
4:47 PM
Why I would abandon all of the work I've put into my renderer and switch frameworks is frustrating.
 
@ThePhD You might also want to consider the possibility that your project might turn out as total crap. There's always that possibility
 
@BartekBanachewicz There's also the possibility you're an asshole. There's that possibility too.
 
Xeo
@Abyx With so many bugs in the features you want to use it for? Nah
 
@ThePhD what? I think that my engine and minicraft might turn out as crap. It wasn't personal
 
That being said, I'm gonna try to get things to work for a little while... if not, framework switches and compiler jumps.
 
4:48 PM
@Xeo but it still works somehow
 
Do you really think it contributes /any/ value to the question to comment on how main is defined? See stackoverflow.com/questions/1621574/mains-signature-in-c for a clarification. int is assumed if not explicitly stated, and this is a terse write-up to exemplify something completely unrelated, not code actually in use. — Brian Vandenberg 3 mins ago
Incorrect jerk
 
did STL actually answer to ruben?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't think that throwing away potentially years of work and just randomly changing (a) toolchains and (b) the entire API you're using is "a reasonable alternative"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Depends. Well written API should be able to translate without much ado.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Since when the fuck is either DirectX or OpenGL a "well written API"?????!?!?
 
4:50 PM
Oooh, this works gist.github.com/rmartinho/5365067. Boost.Regex > <regex>.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit neither of them. I meant the engine using them
Point being, are you going to abandon years of work, or are you going to (possibly) waste even more.
I was just stating the possibility.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You shouldn't bother. Way too much entitlement considering the price they pay for help -- $0.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hey, so we have working Regex. That's nice to know.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's ICU.
 
I see you too.
 
4:54 PM
But it's nice that boost has a simple interface to it.
Woah, that gist plugin is awesome.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hm?
 
user142019
Chrome y u ridiculous version numbers.
 
@BartekBanachewicz :Gist -l lists your gists. Select one, press Enter to edit it. Edit it and :write... Voilà! Automatically updated online.
 
Has anyone seen any OGLES3.0 devices on the horizon?
 
@DomagojPandža Too small to discern at that distance.
 
4:57 PM
@DomagojPandža yes.
Nvidia GTX 6xx series :P (really!)
@R.MartinhoFernandes hey, cool
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought robots had superior visual acuity. :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes NVidia desktop cards passed ES3 certification
 
Hello guys :) .. i need a lil suggestion.. anyone there?
 
no, the room is empty.
jk
 
@BartekBanachewicz So my GTX670 does OGLES3.0?
 
4:59 PM
@Borgleader yes
 

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