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9:02 PM
What is wrong with my fucking culling.
Actually, it's not even culling.
More like a sorting problem.
Hmmm.
 
Ell
Idk, all I've learned so far is turning the depth buffer on/off xD
 
Everyone is making a game now?
 
@Borgleader Everyone!
 
Arghh why is this stupid build taking so long
 
Because it's stupid. It's a little slow.
 
9:06 PM
@Rapptz C# will make parsing it a million tiems easier.
 
?
Oh I fixed it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel o_O
 
working okay so far.
as far as XML parsing goes anyway lol
 
@Rapptz So you're just going to read the XML Directly?
 
yeap.
 
user142019
9:07 PM
@StackedCrooked I added Python support because you know, why not.
 
is 0.16s slow for loading it though?
 
depends on your standards i guess
 
@Zoidberg Alright.
 
hmm doesn't seem too bad for me
 
Meh, seems fine.
 
user142019
9:12 PM
main.cpp:1:1: error: unknown type name 'def'
def main():
^
main.cpp:5:1: error: expected '{' or ','
if __name__ == '__main__':
^
main.cpp:1:11: error: only constructors take base initializers
def main():
          ^
3 errors generated.
 
user142019
lolwhoops
 
"I added python support" ... suuuuuuuuuuuuuure
 
Ell
heh
 
user142019
I did, but I selected the wrong language.
 
okey, for the guys not on mumble, see you 2morrow.
and get mumble, lamenoobs
 
Ell
Bye byes
 
Most generic name award goes to this guy
 
@Borgleader He added a button that inserts "python" .
:P
 
user142019
If you select Python from the language menu, the syntax highlighting switches to Python and the correct command is inserted.
 
user142019
One thing that bugs me is that CodeMirror inserts a tab if you hit tab, but four spaces if you hit return (auto-indent).
 
9:14 PM
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Q: Calling a function makes my code ridiculousy slow

domenicopI'm trying to implement an algorithm that given a rectangle and a number of polygons decided by the user, can recognize whether they are inside, outside or intersect the rectangle and provides the number of said polygons. I coded an algorithm and it works, but I noticed that right after the comp...

 
@Zoidberg Clicking those checkboxes rapidly results in a funny movement.
 
user142019
Jup. :P
 
lol @ that suggested edit
 
user142019
I tried native checkboxes at first, but they look very ugly and don't align well.
 
user142019
@Rapptz xD
 
user142019
9:16 PM
space dot
 
Ell
Wait what are you on about?
You wrote a gui app?
 
All the more reason to stay away from funny characters like * and <> and reduce typing in general :) Cheers — sehe 9 secs ago
 
Think black outlines ftl
 
user142019
Metro style!
 
9:17 PM
metro sucks
 
@Zoidberg hrmm:
main.cpp:1:10: fatal error: 'iostream' file not found
#include <iostream>
         ^
1 error generated.
 
it isn't bad but something's off about it
 
user142019
@sehe yes I know.
 
Wokay.
 
ohai polar bear (@sehe), care to join on Mumble?
 
user142019
9:18 PM
@sehe Use -stdlib=libstdc++ -isystem /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/c++/4.7 and remove -stdlib=libc++.
 
@TonyTheLion not really. it takes too much time, I feel
 
@sehe oh :(
 
@TonyTheLion nobody else is tawking, or is my audio broken?
 
user142019
I can join.
 
@sehe you're on mute
silly polar bear
also no one else is talking
 
9:22 PM
heheh. It remembered from last time, then
 
at this moment
 
user142019
Downloading Mumble.
 
Ell
You know what I'm gonna get on my hands and knees and crawl under the desk and plug the audio in at the back, just for you guys
 
user142019
> You know what I'm gonna get on my hands and knees and crawl under the desk and someone puts a butt plug in my ass.
2
 
user142019
This is how I expected the sentence to end since I saw the word "plug" before I read the sentence.
 
9:24 PM
@Zoidberg inb4 "I lost my key"
 
user142019
@sehe huh?
 
@Zoidberg WTF is wrong with you
 
user142019
I have never had a key for Mumble.
 
and I'm the one with sex issues?
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes you ask me?
 
9:24 PM
@Zoidberg wokay. If you never 'registered' it should be okay. Otherwise, just use a new nick (it would only be the 24th or so)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Huh? I don't see anything wrong with that.
 
Nah. Common practice
I have buttplugs in the office, just in case
(I'm not. Talking about butt plugs)
 
why why why ?
 
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
libstdc++'s string is still not updated.
FYERAGKERHL GERkagkrekjbenb
aerhalkerhatej
 
You mean the cow?
 
9:28 PM
No.
 
user142019
> Robot just threw an uncaught exception.
 
string::insert still returns void.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy
 
It just returns *this.
You can always change the local source code for <string> :P
 
This just in: Zoidberg uses space for PTT.
 
@StackedCrooked No, it returns void.
 
9:31 PM
I mean, that's what it should return.
Why is this such a big problem?
 
An iterator to the point where you inserted stuff
what Robot just said on Mumble
 
Before or after what you inserted?
 
@StackedCrooked Because it is supposed to be like that, and now I can't implement my API properly.
Also...
std::vector has the same problem.
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIT
 
user142019
ITT: Tony owns @DeadMG.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I agree with the principle. But it should be easy to work around.
 
9:33 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes vector::insert returns an iterator though o.o en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/container/vector/insert
 
@StackedCrooked It isn't :/
@Borgleader The standard is right, but libstdc++ hasn't caught up yep.
 
Am I missing out on mumble right now?
 
what the fuck is GNU Grub.
 
@StackedCrooked I need to friend the decoding_iterators for this.
@DeadMG Grand Unified Bootloader.
 
user142019
9:34 PM
@DeadMG a bootloader, noob.
 
lol I changed initializer_lists for vector and cc1plus.exe crashed
 
how the fuck is anyone supposed to use that shit
 
g.g.
 
it just lists commands but don't tell you what the arguments are
has no help or man command
 
What?
What are you doing?
 
9:35 PM
fuck you Ubuntu, you're supposed to install ubuntu, not some bootloading shit.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Trying to install Ubuntu.
 
user142019
Ubuntu is bad.
 
Usually all you have to do is select one of the preset boot options.
 
Ell
@StackedCrooked Yarp. Well, we are talking, idk if that means you're missing out xD
 
namespace mynamespace { namespace std { class string : ::std::string { FIX }; } }
 
user142019
Badbuntu.
 
9:36 PM
I think my Ubuntu is still broken from when I deleted the password.
 
yeah, it doesn't seem to work that way.
 
@DeadMG insert install media, hit enter N times, end of story :|
 
@DeadMG Then how are you going to boot it? Oh wait. You don't want that:
54 secs ago, by DeadMG
fuck you Ubuntu, you're supposed to install ubuntu, not some bootloading shit.
 
@jalf Apparently not.
 
Really, how can you fail at installing Ubuntu.
4
 
9:36 PM
I have like 4 ubuntu installations, none of which I've used recently
 
well, I downloaded the thing, I extracted it, and I ran the thing.
 
That's certainly a new low.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
what more was I supposed to do?
 
I mean, I can understand having trouble with Slackware, or Arch, or Gentoo, but Ubuntu?
 
Ell
9:37 PM
@DeadMG Why would you extract it?
Unless you meant it came in a tar.gz
 
@Ell Why wouldn't I extract it?
 
@DeadMG extracted? It's an iso. You're supposed to boot from it
 
@DeadMG I've installed ubuntu with VirtualBox numerous times. There's nothing to it.
 
What do you mean extract? I usually burn the image onto a DVD or some USB thingy.
 
I have a perfectly good hard drive, why would I put it on a USB or CD?
Windows can install from the hard drive
 
user142019
9:37 PM
lol
 
@DeadMG Mount it and boot it.
 
I usually just burn things
 
some men just want to watch the world burn
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: ideone.com/Ge5sD3 =.=;
fml
 
consider it done
 
9:38 PM
@DeadMG I'd love to see you install Windows from a harddrive while running a foreign OS
the thing about an OS is that it is an OS. It does not run under Windows.
 
Maybe he unpacked to a secondary boot partition.
 
@jalf Hey, nice meeting you!
 
Windows has a handy little installer utility that can be launched from within Windows, allowing you to bootstrap the installation. But that only works if you're in Windows. It doesn't have one for "installing Windows from a harddrive in some arbitrary other OS"
oh hey, yeah, fun meeting you too! :)
so what did you think? :)
 
I got a really good impression
 
@jalf For the record, Ubuntu as had the same for years (/cc @DeadMG) something like "Wubi"
 
9:41 PM
ITT: The puppy fails in a major way.
 
@ManofOneWay Cool!
 
@TonyTheLion In all fairness: he is trying to broaden his horizons
 
@DeadMG You want to install Ubuntu as a native OS? (I would recommend against that and use a VM.)
 
user142019
VMware!
 
@StackedCrooked I wouldn't. Virtualbox stinks
 
9:41 PM
@jalf That's true. But nor does it ship a binary executable in said foreign OS and say "Click me to install Windows."
 
But yeah, definitely a virtual machine
 
Doesn't VMware cost money?
 
in which case, I would expect to click it to install Windows from said OS.
 
@ThePhD not the free version ;)
@DeadMG yes. And what did it do?
 
@ThePhD There are both free and paid versions.
 
9:42 PM
Ah.
 
user142019
Mumble title bar y u "--" y u no em dash.
 
@jalf the free version is gimped iirc
 
@jalf Not much of any use, it seems.
 
@Borgleader nah, it works fine
 
except now I have even more entries in my boot table that I can't get rid of
 
9:42 PM
@DeadMG well, you mentioned grub. So presumably it did something
 
@Zoidberg Because: no fucks to give
 
@Zoidberg Because -- has the same semantics as an em dash.
 
Ell
@DeadMG is grub your bootloader?
 
user142019
But not the same beauty!
 
@Borgleader Hmm, I might look into that during the next week if you don't want to fight compiler troubles :/.
 
9:43 PM
I'm currently running an ubuntu-server headless with VMWare Fusion. I connect with ssh. It's working nicely.
 
@jalf True. But since that "something" was not "Add a Ubuntu entry to my boot table such that when I select it, Ubuntu either continues to install itself, or loads desktop" then it matters not to me what it actually did do.
 
I've got something like 6 different VMs running in the free VMWare player
 
32 GB is more than enough for Ubuntu, right?
 
Ubuntu and a crapload of other shit, I mean.
 
9:44 PM
@ThePhD 500 mb is good enough for Ubuntu
 
I usually give 16 GB to Ubuntu VM.
 
@ThePhD it's a little cramped, but you might get it to work. Stick to Xubuntu and don't install server shit :)
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked what about merely binding /proc/self which Valgrind needs?
 
@Zoidberg That's where I draw the line.
 
I never got a Xubuntu distro.
 
9:45 PM
@DeadMG eh, fine. I have no clue how you managed to screw it up, but it is actually rather simple for anyone who's spent more than half an hour with a computer. I have no doubt that it anyone can fuck it up, it's you, and I have no doubt that you're going to blame everyone but yourself and swear blind that Ubuntu just hates you. And that's fine. None of my business...
7
 
Should I just install Ubuntu and then apt-get Xubuntu?
 
@ThePhD I was joking. FAMMIT
 
user142019
Hey they use that phrase in Never Enough!
 
16 GB should be enough to kill 10 birds with one sdtone
 
So don't use Xubuntu? >_>
 
9:45 PM
I might try xfce.
 
@ThePhD Unless you have a preference for it
 
user142019
Indeed. Use Arch Linux.
 
@Zoidberg I need something people will actually be installing and playing games on. :P
 
user142019
Installing? Gentoo! Oh wait.
 
@StackedCrooked Actually, it's impossible to work around.
 
9:46 PM
I had an unpleasant encounter with a completely arbitrary quirk in the Win8 installer the other week
 
user142019
What was it?
 
Because if the place I want to insert into is the end, I cannot just store that iterator before inserting and return it afterwards.
 
@StackedCrooked exception safety?
 
It's an end iterator, and end iterators GRHELKghaelkhgelkaelkhaerhj
Are the reason I hate iterators.
 
> Quantal Quetzal
They try really hard with these names
 
9:48 PM
I mean, I know it will work fine in a release build, but it won't work with debug iterators.
Because it involves UB.
 
Feb 16 at 20:26, by sehe
@melak47 Well, it's actually documented in this chat. The short version is: Win8 installer suck s sooooo entirely badly, that it will not install on an empty disk if it contained an empty MSDOS partition table, but no partition.
Feb 16 at 20:29, by sehe
In the end, after having tried using a driver disk, setting each and every combination in BIOS, the solution turned out to be, create a single partition from Linux, reboot, delete partition in Win8 installer and continue.
 
user142019
lol
 
So, arghh, I'll just stick to a lower interface for now. Maybe I will submit a patch to libstdc++ fixing this next week.
 
user142019
Only problem I encountered with the Windows 8 installer was that I had no serial number so I had to look one up on the Internet.
 
That's 100 EUR well spent. I think I've booted into Win8 ... 5 times now. And that has been at least a week ago
 
9:49 PM
@ThePhD Ubuntu is probably the most widely used desktop Linux distro. I would bother with the other ones. You should be fine out of the box :P
 
I'm downloading Xubuntu just in case.
 
Don't. You won't like it unless you know what you're getting
 
I mean, the underlying systems should be the same, so testing Xubuntu should almost be like using Ubuntu.
@sehe Not-Unity? :D
 
Yep. "Mostly". Except for the integration
@ThePhD Easier to just replace stuff.
Gnome3 is okay by me. Only task switching is borked.
 
user142019
xmonad is the bestest.
 
9:52 PM
Unity still makes me VM chug like a fat boy at a buffet.
 
@ScottW come on mumble. get annoyed by crisp eating sounds
you have a ... "sub" shop on your phone... hmm
ls <--- hahaha wrong terminal
 
VMWare won't virtualize my GPU?
 
@DeadMG VBox has 2d/3d acceleration up to a certain point.
@DeadMG What virtualization technology do you know of that does?
 
I know virtualization technology?
 
@DeadMG You moan about it missing advanced features. You might want to check before diving in, then
 
user142019
9:55 PM
VMware is great.
 
how is virtualizing the GPU different to the CPU or RAM?
 
Ell
I had troubles trying to do opengl dev with ubuntu in a vm
 
@DeadMG You honestly want to know?
 
no, not really.
 
user142019
9:56 PM
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
How about: it's simply not relevant enough: GPU is for raw performance and parallellism. Makes no sense unless you have the bare metal (I think XEN can just provide raw access to GPGPU).
As long as GPUs don't boot OSes for virtual appliances, it can wait
 
A GPU can't boot an OS. It can only boot 32 of them.
 
:)
 
user142019
cunt
 
user142019
That was easy.
 
10:01 PM
easy cunts don't have my interest
 
user142019
Okay, new front-end to Coliru is complete.
 
LOL
I don't even like bacon. But that's hilarious
 
@Mysticial quick, someone port a linux kernel to opencl? :)
 
it's probably been done. I reckon GPUs run a javascript engine anyways, so they can just run the javascript port of the kernel
 
10:04 PM
Some people, when confronted with a performance problem, think, "I know, I'll use a GPU." Now they have 32 problems.
 
hmmm
turns out that I don't possess any removable storage.
 
@DeadMG all storage is removable...some is just easier to remove :)
 
@Mysticial maybe on twitter :)
 
I don't have a twitter account. :)
 
@melak47 lol
 
10:06 PM
I don't think it's very good.
 
twitter?
 
@DeadMG I haven't used a DVD drive or anything in the last two computers I assembled
 
@melak47 Me neither.
 
That's not removable, right/
O. Well, maybe. But it's hardly storage IMO
 
USB counts as removable storage doesn't it?
 
10:13 PM
appsolutely
 
user142019
Regarding mmap there are no system calls except for creating and destroying the mapping, right?
 
Mmm. I think there's mlock or something too
 
user142019
@DeadMG what if I want to use a C++ function in Wide whose name is a Wide keyword?
 
And possibly a bunch of other things but I'm not really into it
 
user142019
Oh okay.
 
10:21 PM
@Zoidberg Wide generally has substantially less keywords than C++, not the other way around.
I'll investigate it later if it arises.
 
user142019
Ah okay. :P
 
42
 
47
 
44
 
user142019
1
 
10:31 PM
=p
 
user142019
42 Bodies Everywhere
 
user142019
@ScottW it can.
 
user142019
Or well
 
user142019
it can be converted to energy. :P
 
@ScottW lies. Matter is but a form of energy
 
user142019
10:33 PM
> Memory mapped by mmap() is preserved across fork(2), with the same attributes.
 
user142019
Are those the same pages?
 
user142019
Or a copy?
 
@__@
Artists move 2 fast
Already weight-painted their shit already
I don't even know how I'm going to handle animation yet q_q
 
@Zoidberg I fall in love with Haskell a little more every day...or at least every day that I find time to use it.
 
curious mind here; which of are left handed and which are right handed?
 
10:43 PM
What is the mumble server again?
 
user142019
I'm right handed.
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked loungecpp.sehe.nl.
 
user142019
Fapfapfap.
 
@thecoshman I'm not answering that. Must be a trap
 
> Deze pagina gaat verdwijnen.
lol
 
10:48 PM
@StackedCrooked I'm modest like that.
 
@sehe just curious is all
in theory, only 10% of peeps are left handed, but I've noticed a lot of people are work seem to be left handed. Of course, I could just be noticing them more
 
I'm left handed
 
I've always felt that dyslexia seems to be more frequent in programmer population
 
When I was 7 I wrote vijfenveertig as 54.
 
That's good.
The dutch/german numbering system is just retarded
 
10:50 PM
It is.
Also: biljoen (NL) = trillion (EN)
 
user142019
Is pthread implemented in terms of clone?
 
fork and exec
 
Kids have a tendency to "learn" the correct things naturally. Like, they will start 'making errors' in basic grammars when all of a sudden they understand 'regular conjugation' and apply it to irregular verbs, as they should, obviously :)
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked lolwatno
 
@StackedCrooked I think that might be a long vs short number thing
 
user142019
10:52 PM
That would be stupid as fuck.
 
@StackedCrooked I don't think (thx Borg) that's correct. Anyways, billion/million is contented in English alone. IIRC
 
@sehe you accidentally a word
 
@Zoidberg It's largely equivalent to clone, IIRC
 
don't make me get the 'whats a billion' video out again
 
Yes, please do. Saves me the trouble. I'm lazy
 
10:54 PM
@Zoidberg It's clone.
 
@thecoshman Well, as long as you're not bi-curious.
 
@sehe well, you didn't have to cut out that part
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked oh okay :P cool.
 
You'll be thrilled to receive confirmation as to the fact that I'm, indeed, always right: I'm also right in dexterity (anything else would be sinister, really)
@thecoshman I didn't. I fixed markdown fail
 
10:57 PM
I'm left handed.
 
I'm heavy handed
 
I am... mostly lefthanded
It seems most right-handed people carry this lame cluster of things on their left arm
I seem to be able to use either hand, but I have preferences for certain things
 
@ThePhD lol:
 
ooh, playing on mumble are we?
 
My connection was killed. D:
 
10:59 PM
@thecoshman No. No. Nothing
 

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