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12:00 AM
@DeadMG Okay...so a menu and then when you select Ubuntu it goes to GRUB command-line...hmmm...sorry for the repetition, just thinking out loud and trying to make sure I understand the problem...no suggestions are occuring to me yet ;-(
 
Must
Kill
Unity
 
@Code-Guru You missed the part where GRUB bitches about how it can't recognize my HDD's filesystem.
the Wubi documentation clearly states not to install on an encrypted disk, but I never tried to encrypt my disks and I don't even know how to find out if that's the case.
 
hmm... it could be that GRUB is simple not set up correctly. with WUBI, you get a windows boot loader first, then you get GRUB boot loader (I think)
grub is such a basic system, I don't think it has the tools to edit itself
well, that's not quite right
 
What do you mean "edit itself"?
 
@DeadMG I'm looking at wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for any ideas....
 
12:03 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, I know you can (via black magic I am sure) edit what the boot options are, but that's about it IIRC
 
@thecoshman That sounds like the issue to me, too. I'm a total GRUB noob, though...
 
@thecoshman It's not black magic. You can press e and edit existing settings, or press c and drop to a GRUB command line and do the boot manually yourself.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes take your devil worship away!
 
@DeadMG If you are willing to dig into the nitty gritty details, this might help: help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
 
@DeadMG Then it's not that case
@thecoshman nope
 
12:07 AM
Good night, 26 hours is my cap this time.
 
@sehe do enlighten then
 
@thecoshman to the brooklyn bridge (damn how's that spelled)
@DomagojPandža without beer?
@thecoshman I was wrong
 
@sehe oh sure, great response
 
@thecoshman have another one
 
With 4 GB and 128 MB Video Memory at its disposal, you'd think the VM wouldn't run slow...
 
12:09 AM
@ThePhD nope.
 
3d Accel is enabled too. @__@
 
what CPU/disk
 
@ThePhD wants to twat around with GPGPU
 
@thecoshman Missing the point. ThePhD is complaining about his own troubles
 
i7, but I'm only giving it access to a single core with a no cap (can use 100%)
 
12:10 AM
@ThePhD Should be ... relatively ok
 
@sehe ah, well it's hard to care about more then one person at a time :P
 
lol
 
lookup "caring about" in a dictionary for fun
 
Fedora never behaved like this, with either Gnome or KDE flavors. @__@
 
your right... fuck you puppy, you're on your own
 
12:11 AM
What is Ubuntu smoking?
 
lol
well, tomorrow morning I can probably get my brother to hunt down his USB stick and use that.
(probably).
 
@ThePhD Perhaps, disable the 3d acceleration. It might be inviting Unity to enable all 'special effect' making it slow. Whereas it might otherwise fall back to 'dumb graphics card' mode
 
Question: see how Tim puts a ['SelectedIndex'][1] and a [1]: link, does he type this manually or is there a button click to make links take that syntax?
2
A: select same index in list box

Tim SchmelterUse the SelectedIndex property: int index = lbxPlayer1.SelectedIndex; if(lbxPlayer2.Items.Count > index) lbxPlayer2.SelectedIndex = index; If SelectionMode is Multiple: for (int i = 0; i < lbxPlayer2.Items.Count; i++) { if(i >= lbxPlayer1.Items.Count) lbxPlayer2.Items...

 
@JeremyThompson It's the link button (or Ctrl-L IIRC)
 
¬_¬ there is an FAQ section
 
12:13 AM
@JeremyThompson [text](link).
 
@DeadMG missing yet another point
 
or maybe it was (text)[link].
 
nice one thanks
 
@DeadMG wrong
 
@DeadMG some people like taking the convoluted solution
 
12:13 AM
how is it convoluted?
 
nah the [text](link) doesn't do it
 
ah fuck
 
@DeadMG that system isn't but the silly table of links at the end is
 
the way Tim does it - refers to a Member in the code
 
@JeremyThompson it does. Good luck trying again
 
12:14 AM
hence the bracket apostraphe
 
[text] and then [text]: link works too.
 
now I can't get VMWare to even install Ubuntu.
hangs on installing VMware tools.
 
FUCK IT
I'm installing Fedora again. ._.
 
@DeadMG You need an exorcism.
 
Why are you guys so bad at installing linux
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12:15 AM
@Rapptz I'm not! I'm only bad at installing Win8
 
@Rapptz hey, don't tar us all with the same brush!
 
hey
 
Why is Ubuntu so worthless with 4GB Ram, 128 MB Video memory, 2 Cores of my i7, 100% CPU Usage, with or without 3D Acceleration?
 
I followed the instructions quite accurately, I'll have you know
 
hi
 
12:16 AM
@thecoshman ermm:
$ tar -brush
tar: rush: Invalid blocking factor
Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
 
@DeadMG Were you still trying Wubi?
 
@sehe oh yes, very funny ¬_¬
 
@ThePhD it isn't, but: Unity
 
@Rapptz Yep, then VMware and it failed too.
 
I said it sucks earlier because I have never gotten Wubi to work.
 
12:16 AM
gonna go back to VirtualBox, I used that before.
 
@ThePhD what exactly is your problem? I run with less then what you quote there just fine
 
@Rapptz A man with no removable media does not find non-Wubi solutions.
 
@DeadMG Let me know if you figure out how to have Ubuntu not act like a dick.
 
Wow ThePhD doesn't know how to install Ubuntu either?
 
@thecoshman Ubuntu is -chugging-. The VM itself is responsive: the OS inside the VM is chugging extremely hard.
It's slow, windows take 5+ seconds to appear.
 
12:17 AM
@DeadMG Maybe you can emulate a block device over the serial port and punch in the bytes using a dipswitch terminal
 
I'm pretty sure I clicked Firefox and it hasn't shown up for 2 minutes now.
 
@ThePhD Clearly it's just the graphics
 
@DeadMG What was your error there?
 
@ThePhD do not the guest OS at fault when you are using a VM. What are you giving to your guest anyway?
 
@Rapptz Hung when installing VMWare tools.
 
12:18 AM
lol
 
49
Q: Why does an Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox run very, very slowly?

GiorgioI'm using currently Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as a host machine, and I've virtualized three machines: a Xubuntu 12.04 guest a Windows 7 guest an Ubuntu 12.10 guest All the guests have the same VirtualBox default settings, but Ubuntu 12.10 is slower! The installation took 1h 40 min! (Normally, it take...

 
@ThePhD I'm running Debian on 1 GB RAM, no discrete graphics, and a single-core AMD chip. It's a bit slow for some things I do, but it works for what I need.
 
2 mins ago, by ThePhD
Why is Ubuntu so worthless with 4GB Ram, 128 MB Video memory, 2 Cores of my i7, 100% CPU Usage, with or without 3D Acceleration?
It's probably Unity. Who pushed this horrible thing into Ubuntu anyway? ._.
 
@ThePhD VM software
 
I hope I never have to meet them.
 
12:19 AM
> Update: The problem is with Virtualbox Guest Additions not providing 3D acceleration in 12.10 see: virtualbox.org/ticket/11107
 
@sehe That seemed like a really dumb decision.
 
someone posted a picture of me on Reddit
apparently I was tickling myself :)
 
Of course, that's native, not VM.
 
@Rapptz Well. it's multi faceted, like most types of shit
 
12:20 AM
@TonyTheLion that's clearly not you, this lion has a darker patch on the forehead, and looks happy
 
> Oh and just a heads up Fedora 18 is using the same VMware opengl Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301. mesa says it supports both hardware and software rendering. This seems to be where all the problems start. Once in software mode it is impossible to get it to hardware mode using VBox (well at least for me). /cc @ThePhD
 
@thecoshman oh thanks. :(
 
@thecoshman But... he has weirdly happy back feet
 
Well, I could do apt-get foo inside of this chugging Ubuntu.
Apparently Xubuntu is doing fine, though.
So I might as well use Xubuntu.
 
Go for it
 
12:22 AM
@TonyTheLion the last month you have done nothing but bitch in here, are you really telling me that rolling on your back grabbing your feet as brought you cheer? If so, I want what ever you are taking
 
@thecoshman I'm taking nothing. I'm hanging on by the mere support of my friends. That's the only thing that keeps me going every damn day.
I didn't post that to be reminded of how miserably in agony I am, fyi, I posted that because I wanted to post something nice. I wanted to make someone smile. That too brings some relief to my suffering.
 
@TonyTheLion It made me smile.
 
@TonyTheLion well I was mildly amused :P
 
@TonyTheLion I smiled
 
@DeadMG :)
 
12:25 AM
Now have a jaguar
 
@Borgleader not available :(
 
Ell
What's the man's name?
 
@thecoshman Damnit :( Search youtube/google for "conan jaguar"
 
@Borgleader meh, I'll live
 
12:27 AM
@Ell I think it's Conan O'Brien
 
Ell
I wonder what the female equivalent of fapping is called
As in, the onomatopeae
 
shlicking?
 
@Ell buzzzzz....
 
Ell
Shlick? :L
 
user142019
12:29 AM
<$> y u no in Prelude.
 
Ell
Ahh I never knew
 
@Borgleader that was funny. :)
 
@Ell In Dutch: "soppen" (like soaking)
 
soaking eh?
 
12:31 AM
@Borgleader dat meme
 
That sounds way dirtier than shlicking or fapping.
 
0
Q: How the value 3 is passed to 'x' to instantiate the template function 'f'?

user1162978How does the compiler pass the value 3 to the non-type parameter x ? #include <iostream> template <typename Type, size_t x> void f(Type (&a)[x]) { for (int i = 0; i < x; i++) { a[i] = i; std::cout << a[i] << '\n'; } } int main() { ...

 
@sehe that must be slang
I have never heard that before
 
Does anyone else understand this question?
 
That shouldn't compile
oh never mind
he gave it a name
 
12:33 AM
@TonyTheLion well. 'fapping' is slang IYAM
 
@Code-Guru he wants to know how the compiler deduces the size of the array without explicitly telling it, when he passes the array to the template
 
Ell
ahh soppen, that's interesting for some reason
 
@TonyTheLion glad you liked it :)
 
user142019
@sehe is dat uit het jaar nul?
 
user142019
Wij zeggen gewoon "vingeren".
 
12:34 AM
An onomatopoeia (sometimes written as onomatopœia) (, from the Greek ὀνοματοποιία; ὄνομα for "name" and ποιέω for "I make", adjectival form: "onomatopoeic" or "onomatopoetic") is a word that imitates or suggests the source of the sound that it describes. Onomatopoeia (as an uncountable noun) refers to the property of such words. Common occurrences of onomatopoeias include animal noises, such as "oink" or "meow" or "roar" or "chirp". Onomatopoeias are not the same across all languages; they conform to some extent to the broader linguistic system they are part of; hence the sound of a clock...
 
@sehe depends, if you go by the slutty OED it is probably a 'proper' word by now
 
sehe uses google.com?
 
Ell
Dutch looks so funny, but awesome too
 
I thought you guys would use the native versions of google.
 
@Borgleader :)
@Ell It's meh
 
Ell
12:36 AM
But Norwegian is still what I want to know
 
@TonyTheLion ahh...been a while since I did much with templates. Makes it hard to try to figure out questions from someone that seems to have learned English as a second (or more) language.
 
right
the compiler does magic, essentially
2
 
Isn't everything the compiler does magic?
 
some of it is understandable
like the very basics of how it works
the rest is magic
 
boost::spirit is magic, so is boost::phoenix
 
12:41 AM
@TonyTheLion black magic FTFY
 
somewhat
 
inb4 boost::spirit_of_the_phoenix (thx sehe)
 
@TonyTheLion Oh, you're right. I forgot the italics.
puh-hoe-nix
 
@TonyTheLion Merely sufficiently advanced technology.
 
:O those words are spelled the same
 
12:42 AM
LOL
 
LMAO
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes heh, true. but it's not stuff I comprehend fully, yet
 
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Go spam somewhere else, please.
 
ahaha that was funny.
 
@Borgleader Actually, I think Boost Proto is the core of the magic there
 
Ell
12:43 AM
sqlite_prepare_v2() is ugly!
 
@sehe That's quite possible, and that's what it should be called. boost::magic :)
 
I suggest "Boost Leaky Abstraction"
@Rapptz what else
 
And just as I thought I was getting the hang of boost::spirit: none of the 15 overloads could convert all the argument types hehehe xD
 
@Borgleader I bet it's on qi::phrase_parse
 
@sehe google.nl
 
12:46 AM
And the answer is: explicitely type the iterators (and make sure they match)
@Rapptz No f way. I make it a point to not do anything computer related in another language than English
 
Why's that
 
Maybe I should change the url to coliru.stacked-crooked.com.
Now, if I only knew how to create subdomains.
 
lol, spam email, from 'HMV'.
 
@Rapptz Because there are a zillion overloads (in fact, variadic). And the argument type deduction tends to fail on subtleties as when you pass a stding::iterator but the grammar is instantiated for string::const_iterator
 
@StackedCrooked Isn't that a registrar thing?
@sehe did you reply to the wrong person? o.o
 
12:48 AM
@Rapptz nope
 
As anywhere else in C++ type deduction gets flustered when too many interdependencies could be considered: it simply won't and you'll have to spell it out
 
it's an (in theory) is thing to set up via apache
 
@Rapptz Wrong topic in this particular case. I mixed you up with a borg this time
@StackedCrooked Hostheaders. Indeed:
root@koolu:/etc/apache2/sites-available# less roundcube
<VirtualHost *:80>
        ServerName webmail.sehe.nl
        RedirectMatch ^(.*)$ webmail.sehe.nl$1
</VirtualHost>

<VirtualHost *:443>
        ServerAdmin webmail@sehe.nl
        ServerName webmail.sehe.nl
        ServerAlias webmail2.sehe.nl

        SSLEngine on
        #SSLCertificateFile /root/cert/webmail.sehe.nl.pem

        Alias /program/js/tiny_mce/ /usr/share/tinymce/www/
        Alias / /var/lib/roundcube/

        ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error-webmail.log
 
ok, will do
 
@DesmondHume wrong chat room?
 
12:51 AM
@thecoshman I'm not using apache. Wait, maybe I am..
 
It probably has to do with the remixing I did of the MiniC grammar rules. I combined the logical or/and expressions and i combined equality with relational, that and i split all the operators into multiple enums
 
I can't help but find this extremely cute Warning: Cuteness!
 
@StackedCrooked I am sure you are :P
 
All I know is that I'm using mongrel.
 
12:53 AM
@TonyTheLion lol
 
I saw two Apache Helicopters fly over today when I went for a practice drive
 
@StackedCrooked or, so probably not then :P
 
@StackedCrooked usually using apache too, IIRC
 
@TonyTheLion :( I really need to sort that out too...
 
12:54 AM
@TonyTheLion Pay attention to the damn road!
 
What else is there apart from apache. What is the name of the concept that apache is an instance of?
 
@sehe he was being aware of his surroundings like a good driver
 
@StackedCrooked Webserving. nginx, lighttpd etc.
 
@thecoshman You should.
 
I see.
But you only need a tcp socket at the lowest level.
 
12:55 AM
@sehe quite right. I saw only a very quick glimpse of them, while my coworker next to me got a better look
 
@TonyTheLion yeah I know... but effort, time and money
 
@TonyTheLion you go for driving lessons with a coworker?
 
@StackedCrooked well... we could get lower level then that :P
 
@thecoshman true, but the effort pays of in the end. Time - make time, money, well I have no idea about your finances.
 
@StackedCrooked that's basically what nginx does: it can route to a server farm
 
Ell
12:57 AM
If yoy want real low level use raw sockets xD
 
@sehe well, someone has to be next to me when driving with an L plate. I have formal driving lessons with an instructor, but that alone is not enough. I need practice outside lessons too, which is what we did today
 
@thecoshman At work we run the network interface in promiscuous mode and have our own protocol stack implementation. My latest job is to rewrite it from scratch. It's a nice task :)
 
@TonyTheLion hey! don't go taking my excuses away!
 
@thecoshman :)
 
@TonyTheLion I see. I wondered what "practice drive" would be, besides "driving lesson" - now I get it
 
12:58 AM
@StackedCrooked you lucky man.
 
@Ell come one, you're not even trying, you can get lower!
 
Ell
@tony is this learning to drive a Helicopter? Or a car?
 
@Ell A car
 
A carcopter.
 
I wish it was a helicopter
I'd love to fly a heli someday
damn, a boys dream
 
12:58 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You mean the batmobile?
 
oh man that would be awesome... and probably easier then a car
 
@thecoshman cough
 
erm, from what I've heard it's fucking hard
 
helis are a bitch, AFAICT
 
harder than a plane
 
12:59 AM
oh, no I meant easier to get the licence for :P
 
oh
lol
 
Ell
use an fgpa to make a webserver in hardware
 

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