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9:01 PM
@Ell Did you look into the quality of those unicode strings? They're not a whole lot better than std::wstring for the most part.
 
Plenty of high-level languages have fairly good Unicode support.
 
@Ell also because nobody writes text renderers, and nobody else cares about the details of unicode. 99% of the time you just pass strings around, which C++ does just fine.
 
wstring OTOH is a failure.
 
@CatPlusPlus perl doesn't, Windows doesn't. Java's could possibly be decent, I haven't looked in detail.
 
Windows is not a language.
Perl is not a language either. It's gibberish hacked together over years, like PHP.
Perl 6 might have it, but I don't care enough to check.
 
 
ooh, 98.245.80.27/tcpc/OSCON2011/gbu.html slide "Feature Support Summary" is relevant
 
@CatPlusPlus perl and php are really a shame
 
Perl is the only language on the list that supports graphemes
or UCA collation
or "properties"
 
What.
 
and Ruby and Perl are the only languages with full casefolding
 
9:06 PM
Oh, right, presentation made by Perl people.
 
@CatPlusPlus oh probably
 
@MooingDuck ... Python?
 
@YuriAlbuquerque what about it?
 
@MooingDuck I don't know what that means, but I love Ruby, so hurray for Ruby!
 
9:08 PM
@MooingDuck doesn't it have support for UCA collation?
 
@StackedCrooked Uppercase/Lowercase/Titlecase/whatever the other two cases are. (I think)
 
@Drise Vat?
 
As for Java, Java "char"s are only 16 bits and cannot hold all the codepoints. Which is less than awesome.
From teh Java Docs: The methods that only accept a char value cannot support supplementary characters. They treat char values from the surrogate ranges as undefined characters. For example, Character.isLetter('\uD840') returns false, even though this specific value if followed by any low-surrogate value in a string would represent a letter.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's not made up. I know two bronies apparently.
 
@Drise Cool.
 
9:11 PM
@YuriAlbuquerque not according to the chart
 
BRONIES!
 
@Cicada Not you too. D:
 
Spread the love.
 
Oh gawd. She's infected. TAKE HER DOWN!
 
9:14 PM
Awww.
I watched the pilot once. I must say, the production value is impressive.
 
whoops, I malformed my XML and generated some 2000 pages of errors with my batch file.
 
Too bad it's got more clichés than a Steven Seagal movie.
 
> ntfs_mst_post_read_fixup_warn: magic: 0x43425355 size: 1024 usa_ofs: 5312 usa_count: 3252: Invalid argument
How fucked am I.
 
@Cicada That's a little fair bit personal...
 
bursts of laugh
 
9:17 PM
"mdr".
 
@EtiennedeMartel Murder? Where?
 
Encoreungroslourd
Lesuperbeavantagedeparlercommeçac'estquememegoogletranslatefail
 
i need to be at a town at 8:30am, but I am there actually at 6:50am because there is no bus driving there at a better time.
over 1 hour waiting
 
Well, that's what you get for voting for Merkel
 
9:18 PM
@Cicada lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01484.html has some options. (He doesn't sound optimistic about success)
 
@Cicada 'Merica.
 
@MooingDuck Thanks :(
 
<- see this guy? He's messing with Android and trying to give his legend ffmpeg based media power!
 
9:34 PM
FUCK I LOST 750GB
 
@Cicada How can you lose 750 GB?
 
of data?
 
Well MFT is broken
The MFT mirror too
Logs mainly
So it's not too important but still
Why put only 1 mirror, really?
MS u so silly
 
Is file fragmentation data kept only in the MFT?
 
Ell
hd failures suck
 
9:36 PM
For anything that isn't fragmented, you can do a header scan through the entire drive.
 
If it's hardware-induced failure, stop using it, buy another drive, and dump whatever you can out of it.
And then melt it away or do something equally fun, because it's useless as a drive.
 
sell the copper!
 
Ell
use it as ram
 
@CatPlusPlus I've gone soda can bowling with HD platters before... had too much fun out of it.
 
Magnetic HDD makes for a poor RAM.
Mostly because it's infinitely slower than real RAM.
 
9:38 PM
use it as a freeweight
 
Ell
use it as ram while firing some kind of bit flipping radiation and see what happens
 
Make wooden figurines and try to decapitate them with platters.
Or rig it to play music.
Though it probably works only when there's several.
 
Ell
or smash it
 
just stream the raw harddrive data to the speakers
 
That's lazy.
 
Ell
9:40 PM
or use the servo for the arm
 
Build a HDDbot.
Or a spinfusor.
 
Ell
make a dj turntable things
 
Or an HDDbot with spinfusor.
 
Ell
or attach fan blades to the spinning platter
 
Sounds smart.
I probably pictured something else.
Nevermind.
But I really want to see how platter catapult would work.
HDDbow.
 
9:43 PM
@Ell make it into one of those combat robot things.
 
Hello.
 
egad
 
wazzup
 
I'm mean dzyn dobry. Meh.
 
9:45 PM
Everytime I read "Hello!" I immediately think of this
 
I want to go back home. :<
 
Lol.
@Cicada I just watched that today. :.
 
@CatPlusPlus this country is too small for us two.
 
@CatPlusPlus The turtle. It will stay in your head. Forever. Hellooooo ~
 
And no, the link doesn't work.
 
9:49 PM
"Fantastical" really sounds very close to a not kid friendly word.
 
What.
 
Pantastical?
 
Just take away the "fan" part.
 
tastical
are you
no wait
you wouldn't think of that
 
I am hating Ubuntu right through a VM.
 
9:51 PM
I would.
 
pervert
 
Yesssss.
 
And I thought you were pure and innocent
 
That's a good one.
 
Hello.
 
9:52 PM
tastical hmm. It must be tentacle, a pokemon once.
 
Tentacool/Tentacruel?
 
What's ctrl-shift-esc in Ubuntu?
Cause this shit is killing me
 
hides in corner
 
@rubenvb What's your intent
 
9:55 PM
That Pokeman varnished.
 
@Cicada kill the process freezing everything, but letting Firefox update this chat.
 
There's also Tangela.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, yeah.
 
ctrl+alt+f2 (or whatever TTY is available), log in, kill process
 
9:55 PM
note I am typing this from my Windows Host. It's the VM that's hating me
 
@Mysticial Hentai waiting to happen.
 
@Cicada yeah, that's what I'm doing :/
Stupid Ubuntu.
 
...
 
Stupid Ubuntu.
Pleonasm.
 
Ell
ubuntu is awesome
 
9:56 PM
Failbuntu.
 
Ubuntu claims to be uber cool and have everything you need. Well it doesn't.
 
Ell
speaking of hentai. <3
 
@EtiennedeMartel Rule 34.
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, of course.
 
there must be some term invented like "ubuntu nazi", it sounds quite good.
 
9:57 PM
Noobuntu
 
If I didn't need a quick VM wipped up I'd of installed Arch properly
 
Dude, debian
 
@Ell Tentacles made for love, not for war.
 
@Cicada no.
 
Ubuntu is too heavy for a VM.
 
9:57 PM
@rubenvb Sorry. You're wrong.
 
@CatPlusPlus wut? Define "too heavy".
 
@Ell ._.
 
try linux mint then.
 
Ell
@cicada debian? Pfft
 
@Cicada Prove it.
 
9:58 PM
@rubenvb Well, the defaults, really. GNOME is too heavy, mostly.
 
@rubenvb I'm a girl.
Therefore I wins.
There.
 
Ell
not really :L
 
:K
 
wow.
 
GW2
 
9:58 PM
I'm stumped. Stupified.
 
(osom game if you ask me)
 
Ell
but let's not go into who is the superior gender ;)
 
28th August.
 
@rubenvb Glad I succeeded
25 for me! PREBOUGHT IT YES
 
9:59 PM
I hate my penis, when a girl wins with such arguments
 
There's no superior gender. Unless you count aliens.
 
Now just have to buy a PC to play it endlessly
 
@CatPlusPlus Depends on how you overload that operator<.
 
I'll probably preorder at the end of July.
 

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