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12:39 AM
@ChocoMan Nil has been totally in the right reading through the previous conversation, sorry if you don't agree. It's been made pretty clear in this room on multiple occasions that there's no need to ping individuals for questions unless it's specifically directed to that person. If not, then post it, and if anyone is around that has time to help, they will. Otherwise, post it as a question on SO as you probably should anyway.
 
hey I see a palindrome!
 
Heh :P yup
 
I was like, "there's something weird about that name... aha!!"
 
Haha yeah, never even noticed it until after I started using it.
 
really? How did you create the name then?
is it first initial and last name?
 
12:55 AM
it's actually been my login at past jobs -- first initial, last name
Yup
 
very convenient!
"thunderrabbit" is first initial and last name as well, but I don't get a palindrome!
(the rabbit is lying don't listen to him!!)
 
Thomas Hunderrabbit?
 
Tofuburger, but close!
 
haha
 
But actually I like numeric palindromes more; they seem to be more magical than alphabetic palindromes.
 
user457812
1:52 AM
 
user457812
Derpin's coming along.
 
2:06 AM
Is Derpin the editor? Did you write it? If so to the second, wow!
 
user457812
2:36 AM
No, it's Sublime with the light version of my theme so far.
 
nice!
 
3:12 AM
hello
 
yellow
 
user457812
It's a good thing I'm not the only one who says "yellow" as a greeting
 
Haha! We should replace yellow, it's tiring.
 
3:28 AM
Please, could you help me with this question? :)
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Q: ListView repeating selection

rogcgI'm trying to make a context menu for my listview, so when a user long press a row, the context menu shows up, and when the user chooses an option, the row gets selected. However a lot of rows are selected, it repeats the selection in pattern for other rows in the listview. The same happens when...

IDK if it's a problem with view recycling or what. Should I treat the row's click inside the CursorAdapter class?
 
user868935
3:46 AM
@nil お帰り。lol
 
user457812
English only, mate.
 
user868935
I speak American. Will that do?
 
user868935
And お帰り (okaeri) means "welcome back"
 
user457812
Yeah, I know what it means
 
commences popcorn preparation
 
user868935
3:51 AM
Did you simmer down?
 
user457812
My theme is going to look awesome in HDPI.
 
Heh, any new estimates on your MBP's ETA?
 
user868935
I wonder where this line is a spinoff of: "We can teach you to fish, but we're not giving out free tuna."
 
user868935
Sounds like a turn around from another time
 
user457812
@kcoppock Nope.
 
user457812
4:05 AM
I forced my MBP to run in HDPI just to test the high res version of the theme in HDPI, 'cause otherwise I'd have to do it after I got the thing
 
Ah nice
So I think I fixed my worry about extra pixels on other resolutions. (dead simple, really, just used layout weights in my custom ViewGroup instead of hardcoding -- should have done that in the first place). @nil, you don't have any Android devices right now, do you?
 
user457812
I have an HP Touchpad running Android 4.0
 
Oh yeah, I remember that now. Hmm, interested in testing an APK?
 
user457812
I'd have to charge it and update it
 
Alrighty, no prob, don't worry about it.
I need to switch in ActionBarSherlock. That's the only thing I'm using holding this back from pre-4.0 compatibility at the moment, as far as I know.
 
4:11 AM
anyone knows why a selection repeats in the rows inside a listview?
I'm using cursor adapter
I tried handling the click inside bindView method, so the view recycling could work properly, but nothing.
 
user868935
@rogcg did you try toasting each row you touch?
 
@rogcg: Read into how the ListView ties to the adapter on the back end. You need to handle some state in the data source that denotes its selected state. Then in getView, check that state and set the background based on that state (and be sure to handle both states -- on and off). If you don't handle it on the back end, you're just setting the background color on a View that's going to get recycled and reused later, which is why you're seeing multiple items selected.
 
user457812
Sherlock's a handy library.
 
Actually, if you're doing selecting, you should just be able to set the selection type to multiple and Android will handle it for you. Haven't done it for a while myself so I don't have any specifics on that.
 
@kcoppock I can't override getView() since I'm using CursorAdapter
 
4:14 AM
@nil Yeah, from what I'm reading it's pretty damn good. Especially since it's based off of the official API and not trying to add in extra features
rog, can't help you then, haven't messed with a CursorAdapter
 
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@rogcg do you have getItemAtPosition("position of what is touched")?
 
As for the alt-text, Anything more than one space after a period is extraneous. Always. (I always Find-Replace [ ]{2,}, [ ] in documents at work).
 
@ChocoMan not in the View object
 
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That's currently how it looks in HDPI mode.
 
4:19 AM
Loving the icons
 
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They were a pain in the neck to make
 
Not sure about the purple background on the method name
I bet so, but they look very good.
 
user868935
@rogcg Object o = mListViewListener.getItemAtPosition(position) will return what is being touched
 
The one on the top right seems somehow out of place, just a bit.
 
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That's my preferred color scheme, it's not exactly part of the theme.
 
4:21 AM
@ChocoMan ok lemme test
 
Oh okay, gotcha. What's the icon on the top right do, exactly? Some sort of selection?
 
user457812
Search in selection
 
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Far as I'm concerned, it's impossible to design an icon that communicates anything the buttons do
 
Haha. Idk, if it were me, I'd go with a generic magnifying glass in the upper left corner of the icon, surrounded by a dashed line.
 
user457812
Definitely not high-res enough to do that
 
4:23 AM
What's the icon size?
 
user457812
48x48
 
user457812
Or was it 36x40
 
user457812
It's the latter.
 
That's like doing launcher icons for ldpi and mdpi. Horrid.
 
user457812
They were originally 18x20. Which was even worse.
 
4:25 AM
Damn.
 
user457812
Qwerty keeps trying to get on my keyboard. I think he might be intent on destroying my work.
 
I have high amounts of respect for people who do icons at sizes like that.
Well, ones who do good looking icons* :)
 
or Qwerty does not like his name on the keyboard
 
Is Qwerty a cat?
 
@ChocoMan It returns a SQLiteCursor object. I need to get the view so I can manipulate it. It cannot be cast to View or ViewGroup
 
user457812
4:26 AM
Blue-headed pionus parrot.
 
Haha, okay, I was close.
 
I have vacation amnesia
What am I supposed to do at work?!
 
user868935
@rogcg is only one item selected?
 
@Reno sleep?
Sounds like a good plan
 
@ChocoMan mListView.getItemAtPosition(position) has a mCount = 25. Very weird.. 0_0
 
user868935
4:29 AM
@rogcg whats in your list?
 
what u mean
 
user868935
whats populating your list?
 
Well I retrieve data from DB and populate it as a Cursor
that's why I'm using CursorAdapter
 
user868935
What type of data?
 
@ChocoMan String
 
user868935
4:31 AM
do you have a textview in your XML representing a row?
 
@Reno, I even get weekend amnesia, so every Friday I write notes to my future Monday self. I start with "Good job on the ______" to give myself a pep talk. :-)
 
@ChocoMan yes. Each row is a (LinearLayout > RelativeLayout > TextView)
 
whoa is that you TR?
 
um, no?
I mean yes!!
 
Thomas Hunderrabbit.
 
4:33 AM
nice, apparently I made a list of activities on my work diary
 
Tofuburger, if you'll recall correctly
 
It's a big three page list. I curse my past self :|
 
cool a diary should get you sorted
hahahahahaa what was he thinking????
 
user868935
@rogcg I do have a theory as to what you want, but it would take time to think about it from the comment from your question
 
@ChocoMan what else u need to know
 
user868935
4:41 AM
@rogcg You might have to update the code in your question in the scope of what you want
 
user868935
I just need to see the segment pertaining to what you are doing
 
@ChocoMan well. I didn't change my code.
@ChocoMan if you want I can put the whole class in pastebin and send u
 
user868935
That wont be nessary
 
user868935
necessary*
 
@ChocoMan what's ur theory
 
user868935
4:44 AM
@rogcg put the value of the position you touched and hold it into a temporary variable for starters
 
@ChocoMan and then?
 
user868935
you should then be able to go to your options and then when you are dont, set the background to that color at the position stored in the temporary variable, then reset the temp variable when the action is completed. That might work for a single selection.
 
@ChocoMan hmmm seems a good approach. How do I set the background to a specific position?
I cant get a View by getting it from a specific position from the ListView, since it returns a SQLiteCursor
 
user868935
@rogcg I will see if I can test something on mine
 
@ChocoMan I'm trying adapterView.getChildAt(position).setBackgroundColor(0xff333333); but it doesnt work. I think this approach based on position wont work, since the view will be recycled, and the position will be the same for the new view created.
 
user868935
5:00 AM
I see. You might have to comb through the internet for a solution
 
morning
@Reno Hello Dost
 
@ChocoMan yeah I'll. But it's 2AM here. I must sleep. If you have any solution, please post on the question. I shall thank you for your attention. Good night sir!
 
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@rogcg No problem :)
 
hey peeps!
hey @Reno, I got a SGS3 :P
 
5:43 AM
this listview items decides to ignore the fact that i told it to be a specific size
 
user457812
6:35 AM
 
user457812
Now nearly done updating the dark theme
 
Can Sublime use ssh or sftp to edit files remotely?
I really like the 10,000 foot view, but for my current dev, I gotta sync changes with server
 
 
1 hour later…
7:59 AM
Morning
CommonsWare think's an awful lot of himself. If he doesn't know the answer to something, it's impossible and he's happy to say that (destroying any chance of anyone else having a proper think about your question).
@nil ... is... is that a c++ editor on a tablet?
oh, phew, it'a onna mac. was about to fear for the universe
 
hahahaha, what's wrong with C++ on a tablet?
 
I'm pretty sure it would end the universe.
 
8:15 AM
oh and GUESS WHAT GRAEME! :P
 
o.O
WHAT?!
 
go find WarrenFaith's last message :P
 
Er...
 
Happy Birthday!!!!!
 
8:17 AM
ThunderRabbit's got it! XD
 
2 days ago, by WarrenFaith
ok I am away. Have a nice weekend everybody!
?
 
thanks Rabbit!
 
Hah XD
Happy Birthday Smiley!
... How old are you now?
 
okay I may stand corrected on the 'last message thing' :P
haha, thanks Graeme, 17 :)
 
8:19 AM
Urgh... so depressing
 
hahahahah
 
Hi TR
 
is it more or less depressing to know I'm 42?
HI Graeme!!
 
Hah, no, everyone should be 42,
Perpetually
 
yes! this age is the answer!
 
8:20 AM
is now curious to know what TR looks like...
 
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sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7302 ← I spend too much time on the wrong things.
 
we knew that already
 
Here's me in disguise
 
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Holy cow it's @ProfSmiles's birthday?
 
depends, is it the 17th of June where you are? :P
@ThunderRabbit that is an absolutely huge win :D
 
8:22 AM
woah it's your golden birthday!!
 
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Just became the 18th an hour ago
 
Thanks!
 
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*an Do not resort to IRC habits, Noel.
 
user457812
Happy porpoise day nevertheless
 
TR: You know someone has ahold of your tail in that picture right...?
2
 
8:23 AM
best reply ever!
 
user457812
I'm pretty sure that's not a rabbit, @Graeme
 
user457812
Only pretty sure.
 
pffft, he's in disguise!! He said so himself.
tut tut
 
hahah you guys are cracking me up!
 
Are you really in Tokyo?
 
8:25 AM
yes
 
Do you speak Japanese?
 
mmmmm a bit, but not as much as nil
I've been here for far too long to not speak Japanese, but it's pretty easy to get along with just English in Tokyo
 
user457812
I don't speak Japanese
 
you callin' me a liar? ;-P
 
user457812
I speak gibberish.
 
user457812
8:28 AM
You sir are a dastardly liar and I cry foul of your mistruths about my person.
 
but how did you know it was me in this disguise????
 
user457812
The smell.
 
:o
How rude
 
user457812
Are you saying roses are rude?
 
It's rude to say a nice man like TR stinks of roses
He has a tiggery aroma perhaps?
 
user457812
8:30 AM
My brain feels kind of dead right now.
 
at one point I licked the tiger in that photo; it was a bit sandy, but didn't smell worse than a "normal" cat
 
user457812
Right, now I'm hallucinating TR saying strange things.
 
user457812
Next thing you know I'll think anime is real.
 
no sir, I said it, and you are not on candid camera
I knew it was my only chance to lick a tiger.. at least for a long time until I got back to that park in Thailand.
 
TR is a furry. Proof.
There is no one else in the world who would think "This is the last chance I'll have to lick a tiger".
3
 
user457812
8:35 AM
Could be worse. He could like My Little Pony.
 
you have a pony?
 
user457812
Oh dear.
 
hahahahaha
 
user457812
LOOK AT MY HORSE!
 
I thought having a unicorn was requisite for this room!
 
8:39 AM
I definately want to get to know you better TR, you have nice stripes, you dodge questions nimbly and you enjoy a good disguise.
 
and I hear I'm quite a tiger!
er, Rabbit!!
 
Interesting,...
In other news, I finished watching Battlestar Galactica last night (Just have the movie to watch now).
I have a feeling I'll never be the same again - I should recover from that in a day or two though.
 
I'm on season 2 of Battlestar Galactica
 
If anyone wants to srsly stalk me, robnugen.com/wiki/Times:2012-june-17_hilarious_moments_in_http:/… this URL will get you started
 
(and ready and willing to be stalked? My heart is aflutter)
 
8:45 AM
but I just posted the link to the screenshot I've saved to this moment in chat history; you guys are great!
 
@Glitch Nice, I wrote to the team about the fade in thing you requested for in GSIII. Lets see if they do anything about it
 
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I'm re-watching Baccano. Love that show.
 
I'm on your wiki!
 
... god, your suffocating me, i just need some space..
breathes into a brown paper bag
... I should do some work in hope's my sanity comes back.
Also I spelt your wrong.
@Reno It's awesome o.o It's just... the best show ever.
 
8:55 AM
If you really want to suffocate, I can buy graeme.us for you and make an unofficial fanpage that links in realtime to all your chats, analyzing your misspellings to see what we can tell about your personality and mood.
 
o.O That actually sounds kind of cool.
 
omg Graeme is reverse stalking me!!!!!
 
... If I reverse stalk you doesn't that mean I'm in some way controlling you and making your stalk me?
Also, you don't want to stalk me, your sanity couldn't stand it.
do not take this as a challenge :P
 
that's exactly what it means, and you mistakenly used "your" again
you're making me stalk you by suggesting it would be cool to stalk you!!
However, I'll have to stalk you later; I gotta head home
 
@yoshi I still haven't managed to brute force my password.
 
9:03 AM
oh but I have; just making you think I haven't!!
bye all
 
Bye?
... that was one of my weirdest mornings in here.
How correct is @CommonsWare here:
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A: Placing / Positioning the Virtual Keyboard

CommonsWare It's pretty simple to place a KeyboardView in your Activity as you would any other View: Please bear in mind that this widget is designed for use with input method editors, not activities. Does anybody know how I gain access to either the Keyboard object You don't. The user's chosen in...

 
@Graeme: uh damn -.- how much progress did the machine did over the weekend?
 
There are such thing's as system level resources aren't there?
@yoshi About 20 minutes then my PC went to sleep :P
 
<- just rescued a few other keystores from another computer. lucky one thought they were lost :)
hmm it got bored? :)
 
Guess so
I don't hold out much hope - just going to have to delete the project I'm afraid. le sad
 
9:10 AM
so you can not remember any parts of the password?
 
Apparently I used a completely random password.
 
Ok, well you said it's a test project so no big deal, is it?
 
No... but it has like, 5 stars and 10k downloads almost >.<
 
user457812
I want to write a book of ghost stories.
 
o.O!
But.. if I used...
Holy MaCrap! Found my password :D
 
9:16 AM
\^^/
 
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Booyah
 
i hear fireworks outside. Berlin is celebrating your success!
 
'Merica! Fuck yeh!
 
9:37 AM
I's well appy about that
I'm going to either add advertising or make it 52p or something :P
 
10:00 AM
@Graeme Hello mate
 
user457812
I really feel like I should cook some bratwurst some time
 
user457812
It's been so long since I've had that.
 
@nil :) not bad . Looks interesting
 
user457812
Bratwurst does? O_o
 
Hi @Alin
 
10:18 AM
Guys I need to implement a GPS background service... I was thinking of a potential problem: I start the service and GPS is disabled... after that, the user goes in Settings and enabled it... how can I notify my service that the GPS has been enabled in the meanwhile ?
 
10:29 AM
How does this sound as a reply to CommonsWare being a superior dick:
"My point was more over your use of language in your answer than anything else. Your answer assumes a level of superiority which isn't required to give a full and complete explanation. Although the Android OS uses Sandboxes around each app that doesn't mean there couldn't be a mechanism within the OS to share something as system wide as a Keyboard - my lack of knowledge about such a mechanism is the reason for the question, not an indication of lack of understanding of the OS fundamentals."
checkit:
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A: Placing / Positioning the Virtual Keyboard

CommonsWare It's pretty simple to place a KeyboardView in your Activity as you would any other View: Please bear in mind that this widget is designed for use with input method editors, not activities. Does anybody know how I gain access to either the Keyboard object You don't. The user's chosen in...

@Alin I'd check around for events / listeners fired around system level configuration changes.
 
@Alin, you can get GPS status events
GPS_EVENT_STARTED
 
10:56 AM
@Reno thanks
 
Sorry I misread your question : android-coding.blogspot.in/2011/04/…
That was for GPS start event, and this above blog post is for GPS enable check. No events are available for enable/diable it seems.
 
11:32 AM
@Graeme I don't see commonsware's answer on your question.. did he remove it?
 
Guess so - big baby
 
man, and no real way to prove it unless you took a screenshot
 
hey, Thunder Tiger Rabbit's back!
 
talking to you all!
 
hahahahahaha
let's look through your wiki :P
 
11:50 AM
Morning all (erm I mean afternoon)
@ThunderRabbit what does tiger tail smell like?
 
That wiki was one of my solutions to the problem of how to easily upload pictures, but it didn't pan out as easily as I hoped.
like a wet cat
the tiger had just been swimming / wading around in a fountain
ps: HI Merlin!
 
looking for pennies no doubt ... having a striped suit they're obviously the more financially minded of all the big cats
 
Hahahahahaha
 
12:12 PM
Oh dear...
Afternoon Merlin!
I updated my app! Woo. Just waiting for it to tick over and be updated on Play.
I updated my app! Woo. Just waiting for it to tick over and be updated on Play.
Anyone know how to make your app cost something?
 
Yes, make it good :)
 
12:34 PM
:P As in, make it a paid app not a free one?
 
there must be a button on the app profile somewhere to do that
 
Not that I can find - am wondering if it's because I haven't linked a bank account yet.
 
oh yes ... that's probably required
 
Hi there. :D
@Graeme you can't set a price for your app, if you set it previously as "free".
 
Really?
 
12:49 PM
Yes. Just create a new app
 
that's true in Apple world as well. I think it has to do with the contract into which you enter with them when you set up the app.
 
with another package id
 
haha don't say you didn't need your password now :D
 
If you get paid, the contract you accept (after reading, ahem) is like 50 times longer.
 
When you download an app from the Play Store, Google Play will mark this app as "bought" for $0. It would be weird if users that use your app can download updates for free and other people must pay :)
 
12:50 PM
but.. but... I want to keep my 4.4/5 and 5k+ download stats!
 
But there is another way to make your app cost something:
Use the in-app purchase library
For disabling ads or something like this
 
I only wanted to create a free "ad" version and a paid for ad free version.
So i guess i'll turn this one into the ad version.
shrugs
I just want some experience of this before getting an actual app out.
 
You can do both in one ^^
Or like this, use the actual one as a ad version
just like you said
By the way, what's your app's name?
And don't forget to use ProGuard and Licensing libraries.
First of all, ProGuard shrinks the app size by giving all variables and functions random (short) names
And it obfuscates your code, so nobody can easily hack your app
 
proguard is a standard in latest adt afaik
 
Nope
You must activate it
 
12:55 PM
o.O
 
My app had the proguard directory and the config files
But my app got hacked
And I looked into the config file -> it was not activated >_<
The latest adt just creates proguard files.. you must activate it yourself
Just a moment, I will give you some useful settings for proguard
Eclipse is loading............ ....
I need a new computer xD
 
Hrm, you're right, it doesn't use it as default. kick
I like you @DragonWork - you're my new friend.
 
yes yes Dragonwork has the plan
7 mins ago, by DragonWork
Use the in-app purchase library
 

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