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4:00 PM
 
Why has this not been nuked?, it's like 3 years old. Wonder how many tools have ignored the warning and run it anyway.
 
It answers the question, and ruins your computer in the process. That's perfect.
 
@TylerH Yeah, I fumbled that one and only realized it after the fact. I forgot the link I copy-&-pasted was to the answer instead of the question.
 
Folks, would this question about SourceTree and Mercurial be on-topic for SO?
 
@Tunaki I've flagged for mod attention, fail to see what it brings to the topic and will be a magnet for script kiddy pranks.
 
4:10 PM
@NickAlexeev Looks like it could be. Super users would also be a good place me thinks.
 
@Lankymart I tihnk there was already a Meta post abou tit
Pretty sure of it.
 
Kinda but there is an answerable question in there
 
@TimCastelijns how about now?
 
4:19 PM
Possible multiple accounts? 1 2 Or classmates perhaps.
 
Thx Tuna
 
@OhBeWise flag one for moderator attention and link to the other mentioning the accounts are the same age and they're asking the same thing, they can check into it
 
thx tuna
 
kk
 
@Tunaki really?, I'll try and dig it up.
 
@NathanOliver I found this one meta.stackoverflow.com/q/318722/692942
@EdChum I wouldn't say it's unclear, it's obvious what they want...I'd go with Too Broad as it's basically "please write the code for me".
 
I wonder if one of those should be closed as a dupe of the other
 
@Lankymart the OP asked how to plot, they didn't specify if they wanted a barchart, line chart, ..etc so to me it's unclear
 
this one user has a string of terrible questions in :-/
 
@EdChum it doesn't matter what the specifics need to be they haven't even provided an attempt to address the issue themselves.
@NathanOliver was just thinking the same.
 
4:38 PM
@Lankymart this was why I commented Would be useful if you explained what kind of plot you want, plus what you tried so far
 
jesus, 579 questions
145 questions per year asked on SO...
#learntogoogle
 
@EdChum it's such a fine line between unclear and too broad.
 
Sam
@Yam alive?
 
Yam
@Sam Yep.
 
Well we need questions to write answers. As long as they are good I do not have a problem with someone who asks a lot of questions
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4:41 PM
@Closey my stats
 
@TylerH You've reviewed 0 posts today.
 
@Lankymart true it's not uncommon for there to be overlap but a poor question is still a poor question
 
:-(
Okay, by noon EST (18 mins from now), there should be another ~45 questions from in the queue
 
@Tunaki well I flagged for Mod Attention guess "Regardless of the warning I fail to see the value of keeping this question. It will be a magnet for script kiddy pranks and you will always have those who ignore the warning and run it anyway. The harm imo outweighs the good. – Lankymart 28 mins ago declined - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it" isn't detailed enough.
 
@NathanOliver would you mind making a CVQ event for for Friday some time around 9PM GMT that day?
 
4:45 PM
NathanOliver has added an event to this room's schedule.
 
@TylerH Looks good?
 
@Feeds No can do Nathan. It's my birthday on Friday and I have people coming over.
 
@NathanOliver yah
 
@Adriaan We will close in your honor
 
Sam
4:46 PM
Can someone ping me?
 
@Sam
 
@Sam
 
Sam
Thanks.
 
@Sam
 
@Sam ping
 
4:46 PM
@NathanOliver wrong
 
@Sam
 
although I'm not someone
 
shame
 
stupid tab button
 
@Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam @Sam
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4:47 PM
@Lankymart 20k users could delete vote it
 
Sam
\o/
 
ping-flood
 
@TylerH I've flagged it again this time with reference to meta.stackoverflow.com/a/318726/692942 and detailed exactly what the code does and why it is harmful.
 
5:20 PM
Hello!
 
Hi Nobody
 
Hiya Nobody
 
Hiya NN
 
5:36 PM
@cricket_007 did you mean: no mcve
 
darn it, don't delete it when I vote to close... I waste my vote :(
 
hehe
 
@Lankymart pls remove the link it was incorrect have just reposted the cv request.
 
Would you like FireAlarm to run in this room?
 
@NobodyNada We're talking about it
 
cool, thanks!
 
6:18 PM
@dorukayhan Nah - OP is more asking for a tutorial. I have already answered three of his/her questions and it was hand-holding for the most basic syntax errors
 
too broad then?
 
@cricket_007 You should comment then that we are not a tutoring site.
 
@PetterFriberg - Lemme know when you are around :)
@SotiriosDelimanolis - both gone!
 
thank you
 
6:32 PM
:)
 
6:45 PM
Hey guys :D
 
\o
 
My question just got close ...
could some of you have a look at it
I think it's not offtopic xD
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Q: Cannot add TLSharp to PCL

Felix D.Is there any C# component for adding Telegram chat functionality to PCL like Xamarin.Forms ? The only thing I found was TLSharp but I'm not able to add it to my PCL. I also tried to download the whole code and add/copy the contents to a pcl and tried fixing the issues appering to me but with n...

 
Is there any C# component for adding Telegram chat functionality to PCL like Xamarin.Forms ? The only thing I found was TLSharp but I'm not able to add it to my PCL. makes your question off topic. If you edit that out it should be fine
 
alright
thx
 
6:47 PM
np
 
just wanted to add some route how I got to that problem :D
would you mind to vote for a reopen then ^^ ?
 
Would this question be too broad? It's essentially asking us to convert a SQL query from one flavour of SQL to two others. IMHO it's too broad.
 
ty Nathan
 
np
@cybermonkey Kinda. It's basically a translate this code request
 
@FelixD. looks good to me, re-open vote casted
 
6:52 PM
ty too
 
JAL
Hi all! o/
 
Hey @JAL!
 
Hiya JAL
 
JAL
I have some exciting news to share: I was invited to the Stack Exchange NYC offices to participate in a focus group about Stack Overflow!
 
seriously? That's cool!
 
7:01 PM
@JAL nice
 
@JAL Awesome
 
Oh, dear, is it about The Meta Post?
 
JAL
Yeah there was some sort of survey link next to the job ads. I filled it out and they decided to pick me
 
@NobodyNada hopefully
 
bet that means he is going to get swag too
 
JAL
7:01 PM
@NobodyNada haha, double it. I bet it's about site design and usability
I will let you all know
Hoping for more swag, that would be awesome
 
@JAL say no to a white header
 
JAL
and maybe meet some of the devs
@TylerH ha, agreed
 
I'm fine with the new header, as long as it's not sticky for crying out loud
 
@NobodyNada I'd rather it be sticky
 
7:06 PM
I hate having to scroll up (even quickly via home) to get back to the site navigation options
 
I hate sticky headers more
 
JAL
I'm generally curious to see if they're doing anything to improve the ux around tags, especially when searching for them
 
but it's far more important that they not make it white
 
I would be fine with the current header if it was sticky.
 
Workaround: Get rid of the header
 
7:09 PM
Damn, I misread that as "weather", and thought it was a good idea
 
I am flattered to know people misread good ideas in what I say
 
7:50 PM
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
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Q: Should we burninate [dual-boot]?

Govind ParmarThere are a handful of questions tagged dual-boot on StackOverflow and all of these are about troubleshooting dual-boot or multi-boot configurations. None of these questions are on-topic on StackOverflow and I cannot foresee any usage of this tag that is on-topic. The closest thing I can think o...

 
@Closey room stats
 
@Lankymart 6 members (27% of this room's registered reviewers) have processed 120 review items, which accounts for 9.15% of all CV reviews today.
 
@Closey my stats
 
7:56 PM
@Lankymart You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 35 minutes and 3 seconds, averaging to a review every 52 seconds.
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
JAL
Can an RO add me to Closey please?
 
@Closey add 2415822 to reviewer
 
@NobodyNada I've added @JAL to the Reviewer group.
 
JAL
Wait non-ROs can do that?
I feel stupid
thanks Nada
 
As long as I'm a reviewer, yep
 
JAL
7:58 PM
sweet
 
@Tunaki You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 6 minutes and 44 seconds, averaging to a review every 10 seconds.
@NobodyNada I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Closey my stats
 
NobodyNada passed a audit!
@NobodyNada You've reviewed 4 posts today. The time between your first and last review today was 3 minutes and 34 seconds, averaging to a review every 35 seconds.
 
@Closey my stats full
 
@NobodyNada You've reviewed 6 posts today (of which 1 was an audit). The time between your first and last review today was 3 minutes and 34 seconds, averaging to a review every 35 seconds.
 | Item Id  | Action    | Audit  | Completed At            |
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 | 15073808 | Close     |        | 2017-02-01 19:59:05 UTC |
 | 15073809 | Close     |        | 2017-02-01 19:59:26 UTC |
 | 15072184 | Close     |        | 2017-02-01 20:01:22 UTC |
 | 15072195 | Close     |        | 2017-02-01 20:01:31 UTC |
 | 15072107 | Close     |        | 2017-02-01 20:02:09 UTC |
 | 15073359 | LeaveOpen | Passed | 2017-02-01 20:01:55 UTC |
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
 
hehe
 
Flag it!
 
Sam
Seems like Closey's back to her usual self.
 
"usual self"
 
Sam
You know what I mean :P
 
8:23 PM
@Tunaki a usual self isn't necessarily usual
Rimshot
 
It usually is though.
 
@Queen list tags
 
Welcome Lankymart, you have been added as Reviewer, standby executing your command
@Lankymart Sorry you need to be Hammer to run this command (@Petter)
 
@Queen stats tags today
wibble
 
@Lankymart Hop by SOBotics you'll be able to run all the commands there
She's running in a quite restricted mode here, so as not to spam too much
 
8:38 PM
@Tunaki no worries
 
Hi all. o/
 
@TheLostMind I'm in
 
Hello in, I'm out
 
@Tunaki actually, or just a joke?
 
8:42 PM
@Tunaki Fish can't breathe outside water.
RIP
Unless you're one of those ugly frog fishes
 
Hi Tuna
 
In that case, the Gravatar would be non-descriptive
 
@FOX9000 rejected. Not sure if a mod wants to look at the approvers
 
I flagged one of them
 
8:50 PM
rene passed a audit!
 
I rejected, but I assume approvers did so b/c the edit was by the Question author changing the answer's code to match his own code edit to the question.
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 4 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 6 hours, 55 minutes, and 9 seconds, averaging to a review every 10 minutes and 22 seconds.
 
@OhBeWise I rolled back the OP's edit to the Q since it invalidate the answers
 
@NathanOliver ah good. I was wondering what to do
 
8:59 PM
@closey commands
 
@Compass Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
commands - Shows this list.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
my membership - Shows the permission groups you are a part of.
reject request [#] - Rejects a pending permission request.
remove [user id] from [group name] - Manually removes a user from the given permission group.
 
@closey request permission to reviewer
 
@Compass I've created request #10 to get you in the Reviewer group.
 
Hooray \(owo)/
 
@Closey approve request 10
 
9:00 PM
@Closey approve request 10
 
@NathanOliver @Compass has been added to the Reviewer group.
@NobodyNada That request has already been handled.
 
ninja'd
 
muhahaha
 
I msread that as @NobodyNada @NathanOliver Compass has been added to the Reviewer Group and thought Sam did a good job with race conditions
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turns out I was wrong
Sam did not do a good job with race conditions
 
Sure he did. He had a race and I won ;)
 
9:01 PM
is it a race condition if the race is very slow
 
Hey, snails have races.
 
@Compass I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
> From the How to Ask your were told to read: "Write a title that summarizes the specific problem" Actual title: "Why is my output wrong?"
 
@NathanOliver I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
NathanOliver passed a audit!
 
Some people just don't care...
 
9:05 PM
true dat
 
much wow
 
Compass passed a audit!
 
afk for lunch
 
> Program wtih recursive function and without global variable - C++
ffs :(
 
Can anyone undo this? I believe it was incorrectly marked as a dup.
 
9:10 PM
@bassxzero I would ping the close voter and give them your reason why you fell that it is incorrect.
 
@bassxzero For dupe stuff, better add the tag inline.
Also what Nathan said, first. :)
 
@NathanOliver i tried to find him in chat, but couldn't. I guess I could do it as a comment
 
Besides, only Undo can Undo things.
 
@bassxzero Yep just do it as a comment so the rest of the community can also see it and weigh in
 
@bassxzero You can always ping the close voters with an @ message
 
9:11 PM
@M.A.R. But can he un-undo things that were undone by Undo?
 
I think he can even go deeper.
 
@TheLostMind moving towards bed, today it has been a long day, traveling between client, tomorrow I will be in office as usual, ping me again anytime you like.
cya all
 
night petter
 
Night @Petter o/
 
stabs the queue with a fork
 
9:15 PM
@Compass You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 12 minutes and 30 seconds, averaging to a review every 18 seconds.
 
9:50 PM
Struggled a bit there, everything is okay now!
 
@Tunaki I'd say so, yes
 
@Tunaki Can you close this as dupe of this? I used my vote as unclear.
 
it gone
 
user3956566
10:05 PM
@Tunaki miss you :D
 
user3956566
 
> What type is jQuery?
rofl
 
10:22 PM
@YvetteColomb me too, also slack :)
 
user3956566
@Kyll yeh that is not the best part of it lololol maybe I should've edited that out lolol
 
user3956566
@Tunaki yes we're slack ;)
 
@tunaki This as dupe of programing to interfaces, yay or nay?
 
user3956566
It has been superseded. Googling these terms, the Q+A is nowhere in sight and has excellent hits on other sites. It is not going to missed. If it gets deleted then SO users can vote to undelete it again. That's the way it works, the way it always worked, it is not somehow different just because you like it. Use a chat room to gather a posse, you are familiar with the concept. — Hans Passant 3 mins ago
 
user3956566
@HansPassant I don't accept your abuse anymore. I'm tired of being bullied on this site. I have no support in any chat room for anything specific and it's a topic I've brought up with the Community managers. I GOOGLED these search terms to do an essay at university and this question was at the top. So do not presume to know everything and denigrate my intentions. Do you understand? It's not acceptable to kick people around. And NOT ME! — Yvette Colomb 1 min ago
 
10:28 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis nay, but too broad / unclear
 
or even POB
 
user3956566
Ok I'm taking a break from the site until the bullies on meta are dealt with. I'm over it. I've flagged a comment and until it's gone, I'm gone.
 
user4639281
@YvetteColomb Hans is always going to be like that, ain't gonna stop any time soon. While the comment isn't overly helpful, it isn't really not constructive either.
 
@YvetteColomb Too broad, but I am in favour of locking it as well - it has good answers, question is linked elsewhere, and would take too many votes to delete and then undelete after
 
user4639281
10:42 PM
The meta regulars can be abrasive for sure. I don't think anything is going to change that, especially not boycotting meta. Meta requires somewhat of a thick skin.
 
@TinyGiant ahem, don't we have a policy against mentioning specific users in here
 
@Rizier123 Wut?
 
@Rizier123 Peer Pressure badge of course...
 
user4639281
@TylerH user profiles
 
10:48 PM
@SamuelLiew Maybe.
 
@TinyGiant Pretty sure it covers mentioning users by name and not just linking to their profiles
 
user4639281
Otherwise, we'd never be able to say "waffles"
 
as there's no effective difference between those two things
@TinyGiant That's not a fair intepretation, waffles is in reference to the food item and that's obvious. It's obvious here that you are referring to a specific user by name...
 
user4639281
There is a difference between "<link to profile> check out all this crap content" and "<user name> said something"
 
I agree, but you also didn't say "username said something"
 
10:50 PM
hmh it read fine to me in this case Tyler. The comment was quoted here, and that includes the username + link
 
you said "username is always going to be like that" (emphasis mine)
 
so refering to it with the username looks ok
 
Was there ever a proposal to let me reflag that myself? :/
 
It's not the worst case in the world, but the whole point of the guideline, from my understanding, was to prevent people from talking about users or meta conversations in this chatroom
 
ok perhaps only once, casually
@BaummitAugen You can reflag, but with a different flag
 
user4639281
10:51 PM
@TylerH Ok, I'll rephrase that as: there is a difference between calling attention to a user profile, and referencing a username
 
So if you flagged NAA, you could reflag as VLQ.
 
@TinyGiant The rephrasing doesn't really address the issue
 
@Tunaki Great, but it is just as VLQ as it was before.
 
which is not that you literally mentioned a user's name, but that you remarked judgingly on a user's behavior
 
Yeah
 
10:52 PM
but anyway, I'm headed home
 
user4639281
@TylerH The original intent of that rule was to stop people from attracting negative attention to a specific user's posts
 
Why can't I revaluate it after the "fix"?
 
user4639281
@TylerH I didn't judge the user's behavior, I said their behavior wasn't going to change.
 
(The question for the proposal was serious btw, I'm not that active on Meta.)
 
It was already asked by Felix, let me dig
ah no it was FrankerZ
 
10:54 PM
Thank you very much @Tunaki !
 
11:12 PM
 
@TinyGiant Locker room talk?
 
user4639281
@MikelF ?
 
Your statement is making excuses for bad behavior.
 
user4639281
I don't necessarily think it is bad behavior
 
Putting the onus on the offended without acknowledging that the actions of the offender is unacceptable
 
user4639281
11:22 PM
I think a certain amount of abrasiveness is a good thing
 
user4639281
I think being overly sensitive is not a good thing
 
both are subjective.
but this is not appropriate for this room
nor is it really my place to start this conversation
I apologize
 
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Q: Get rid of "weak" and "weak-ref" tags

Joe BlowThere's a weak-references tag which is correct and good, so the tags weak and weak-ref should be removed.

 
user4639281
@MikelF It's all good, we don't moderate meta this discussion doesn't qualify as moderating meta IMO.
 
No need, it's great to discuss things here. To a certain extent and length of discussion of course, but I'd be fine with it here
@NobodyNada What do you think of running it in the testing facility to tweak things / see how much messages it posts / etc, and start running here this week-end (with lower site activity for a start)?
 
11:35 PM
@Tunaki Sure! I'll start it up there right now.
 
Great!
 
@Tunaki Ok, I've updated the code on GitHub. It will auto-update, and it should start up there in ~5 minutes.
 
Can it run in multiple rooms at once?
 
Yep, I modified it this morning. It wasn't much of a change at all, since I moved away from a global room a while ago.
 
Awesome
 
11:43 PM
sigh...it's crashing when trying to boot. It looks like it's a bug in Foundation.
 
user4639281
@Tunaki Off with the head! ...er
 
\o/ it started!
 
@TinyGiant clap clap
@NobodyNada woot
cya o/ need sleep!
 
I killed it; I'm going to try to fix the crash
@Tunaki Goodnight!
 
user4639281
@NobodyNada At first glance I read that as "I killed it; I'm going to try from scratch"
 
11:48 PM
haha
 
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