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6:00 PM
hiya all
 
o/
 
@Tunaki \o
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I duped to here
 
@NathanOliver Good move. I was just checking the image :)
 
Is that a screenshot of... Internet Explorer?!
on a C++ question?
 
6:03 PM
well, it will get deleted anyways...
 
Yes it is
 
Scary. Really scary.
 
yeah
 
I'll have to sleep with the light on tonight.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ hi
 
6:06 PM
@FirstStep \o
 
\o/
 
Oh and hi πάνταῥεῖ. Did you see my earlier ping from this morning?
 
@FirstStep Nice to see you still around :)
@NathanOliver I probably missed it. The pings from SD drown all the personal ones :(
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Thanks :) I lost the pings from yesterday. to hook up with queen
 
@FirstStep Ask @PetterFriberg. It's basically installing a user script and register with a specific programming language tag. Queen works best for gold-badge holders though.
 
6:10 PM
4 hours ago, by NathanOliver
@πάνταῥεῖ You have an admirer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38898414/%CF%80%CE%AC%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1-%E1%B‌​F%A5%CE%B5%E1%BF%96-how-to-check-if-all-characters-in-string-are-numbers
 
@NathanOliver LOL
 
I probably should have my own tag at SO :)
 
@Tunaki don't worry, it's IE11 at least
 
@FirstStep Queen is a bit confusing since she is running duplicate notifications (only for gold badger), batch for review (for >3K users) and also but only for testing offensive comments detection (you can get pinged on these but you need to be added to code base, and then I need to deploy new version).
 
6:12 PM
Alright, Note to self: "to get my dream queen, I need a gold badge"
@πάνταῥεῖ working on it
 
Someone please please please go cast the last CV on stackoverflow.com/questions/38903083/…
I can't DV the bad wrong answers fast enough
 
@NathanOliver I remember I kicked such question once, probably same user asking again.
 
Probably.
 
@Two-BitAlchemist We would be pleased if you send a normal cvs-pls request. see FAQ for info on how.
 
Yam
6:14 PM
@Sam Now watching question 38903083, you will be notified when this post is edited.
 
@PetterFriberg I see, well maybe by that time I will have my badge or higher rep. Thanks
 
@Two-BitAlchemist Please keep with the protocol here asking for close votes.
 
Someone already did it. I'll read it. First time here.
Maybe second.
Edit: Will read it later. That is really long.
 
@FirstStep Your are welcome, yeah 3k would be good otherwise queen is not much use.
 
@PetterFriberg Only 400 rep missing so far, they'll get there soon
 
6:17 PM
@PetterFriberg you built the AI queen? Can I know more about it? I am interested to learn
 
@Two-BitAlchemist basically just make sure to include [tag:cv-pls] and the reason (aka POB, Too Broad, etc.) when asking for a close vote
 
@queen help
 
Oh ... challenge accepted ... — rene 30 secs ago
 
This is a registered stack app SOCVFinder that notify about possible duplicates and cherry pick questions to review, see quick guide for commands. In this room commands are limited send commands to display available
 
general idea just, how it works
 
6:17 PM
@Two-BitAlchemist You are welcome!, there are only 20 rules : ) FAQ
@FirstStep Visit this testing room for queen SOCVFinder.
 
godaddy completion estimation: Sept 1
 
@Drew Sounds correct yes.
 
@PetterFriberg Cool! Thank you
 
of 2017
 
Rule 21: Don't complain about the length of our FAQ, you all made me make those rulez....
 
6:20 PM
@rene Oh he of little faith.
 
@rene pls kill the rules, we need 1 rule: waffles
 
@PetterFriberg You can also flirt a bit with her there (@FirstStep) ;)
 
Rule 22: Add more rules to the faq.
 
@TylerH I'll waffle iron u
 
those are fighting words
 
6:21 PM
@rene Zisch!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ :D
@NathanOliver yeah, you better don't leave that kind of comments ;)
 
@PetterFriberg @TylerH Thanks for help and sorry for protocol violation.
 
Sam
@Clo stop bot
 
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Shutting down. (Sam's Backup Server)
 
:). Go daddy will be gone faster then he realizes. 1800 post is not so much.
 
Sam
6:23 PM
@Two-BitAlchemist No worries
 
@Two-BitAlchemist no problem, welcome here...
 
"protocol violation"? That's Kyll's middle name!
 
Ninja'd by Sam... hmmm
 
@Closey time to get the backup server back up
 
rene has started reviewing!
 
6:27 PM
wait how are you alive
 
Sam
Jul 18 at 13:37, by Sam
We generally don't expect people to start reviewing straight after startup.
Give it a moment and Closey'll post the startup message...
 
way to go rene
 
Hello everyone! (Sam's Backup Server)
 
now Sam has to write an edge case for you
 
Sam
Fat chance :p
 
6:30 PM
lol
 
so, in the context of splitting the different likelihoods of it happening up in a pie chart... that mean's there's a good chance?
:-)
 
rene passed a audit!
 
Sam
There's a good chance I'll be upholding the sacred ritual of making you all wait 6-8 weeks.
 
of course
 
Anyone who fancies seeding the CVQ with godaddy question? Please go over the open ones and flag them for closure when warranted
This is a job that can be done by <3k regulars
 
6:33 PM
^ a couple of us already have for the day
 
Yeah, but I have 30 cv left and the queue is empty
 
wat
oh they take time to enter too
 
@rene I'll go sprinkle votes.
 
OK
 
queue is indeed empty
 
6:35 PM
@TylerH 20 minutes normally
 
Sam
@Clo room stats
 
@Sam 6 members (6% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 107 review items today, which accounts for 7.55% of all CV reviews today.
 
why is it still counting 100 people -_-
 
Sam
Pingable users with 3k+
 
yes but there shouldn't be that many people on that list
And I still think it should only count the people who are registered with it...
 
6:38 PM
is .htaccess stuff on topic?
 
nope, IMHO
 
@NathanOliver sort of
it depends
 
some htaccess stuff (like how to hide trailing extensions) has an answer already
 
Sam
 
6:39 PM
but much of it I close as off topic
@NathanOliver that one's off topic
 
waffles
 
@Sam it's counting queen...
 
@rene thanks :)
 
np
 
Sam
@TylerH Yeah, well I don't actually know the number of users who have >3k.
 
6:41 PM
@Closey reviewers
 
@πάνταῥεῖ she asked me about my real name right away. I think she is into me lol @PetterFriberg
I must bang that BOTy ;)
 
Sam
@Clo membership
 
@Sam Current users in permission groups:
Reviewer
    Adriaan (5211833)
    Andrew Cheong (925913)
    Ashish Ahuja ツ (5735775)
    Braiam (792066)
    Cold Fire (5148907)
    Compass (2958086)
    Dukeling (1711796)
    durron597 (1768232)
    Ferrybig (1542723)
    FrankerZ (4875631)
    gunr2171 (1043380)
    Jacob Gray (3285730)
    JAL (2415822)
    Jon Clements (1252759)
    kayess (4805174)
    Kevin Guan (5299236)
    Kyll (4174897)
    Magisch (5389107)
    Mogsdad (1677912)
    NathanOliver (4342498)
    NobodyNada (3476191)
 
Sam
@TylerH Is that what you were after?
 
yes
btw github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/SOCVR-Chatbot says this page github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/SOCVR-Chatbot/wiki has a list of commands and triggers but it doesnt
and according to that list there are 35 able reviewers -_-
(not including people who are bot owners but not reviewers, like Madara)
 
6:44 PM
Question: if I flag a question as duplicate and it is aged-away but someone answered and got rep; what happens if you mark this as dup now? Will it take away rep from those users? ;)
 
is this a server problem and not a code problem?
 
@techspider no
 
@NathanOliver i don't think so
 
Sam
@TylerH Yeah, you've got a point
 
@RiggsFolly lol can we assume ...
 
6:45 PM
@rene thanks
 
@techspider there are no ex post facto penalties for answers on questions that end up closed, even as dupes. There have been lots of requests for that to happen, though.
 
@TylerH This could have been the most effective way to discourage answering dupes
 
@rene you need at least two users, since it needs to close flags to enter the queue
 
@techspider staff have considered it but it's tricky. What happens when you have a question that keeps getting closed/reopened? What if it's a question with a huge score?
Users would see -50, +50, etc. etc. all the time
 
@Braiam we have enough users under 3K so that shouldn't be a problem
 
Sam
6:47 PM
@TylerH Thanks; fixed.
 
@Braiam two close flags are required to send it to the queue? since when
 
@TylerH Why would a question marked as dupe be re-opened?
 
@Sam thanks
 
@TylerH since Shog
 
@techspider disagreements? or edits?
it happens a statistically significant amount of the time
@Braiam Everything changed when Shog9 attacked
 
6:51 PM
Is it a practice to translate non-English question ourselves and handle them?
 
@FirstStep She seems to enjoy being gang-banged ;)
 
@techspider should be edited, specially as it has valuable answers. The translation is in the comment
 
@techspider flag as unclear
 
@TylerH I flagged but it is in pending; now I see it has an accepted answer
 
you can flag for moderator attention and let them know your previous flag aged away and that the question is problematic
 
6:54 PM
@NathanOliver Well, I've put on my 50¢
 
It's gathering CVs now anyway
 
@rene even if we edited it, it would be off topic "is there a webservice or anything else directly to open its GPS or Google maps api kind"
 
@rene I have done some seeding.
 
@Braiam yeah, I saw
 
Sam
@Clo stop bot
 
6:59 PM
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Shutting down. (Sam's Backup Server)
 
Sam
@TylerH Done and done.
That's enough updates for Closey today :p
 
@NathanOliver I'll take those in 20 minutes
 
OK. I must have done about 15.
 
Hello everyone! (Sam's Backup Server)
 
Sam
7:03 PM
@Clo room stats
 
@Sam 6 members (17% of this room's registered reviewers) have processed 106 review items, which accounts for 7.39% of all CV reviews today.
 
@Sam \o/
Much better numbers
@rene I also seeded about 10
 
OK
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
pssst, you're wrong, but ok, you were rebooted so I'll blame Sam instead.
 
7:10 PM
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
7:25 PM
In USA what is Italian soda?
 
@PetterFriberg What is Italian soda?
 
I've never heard of italian soda....
 
I do not know my wife asked me since they are exporting from Italy and a US distributore have asked for these...
 
never heard
 
perfect, thanks
 
7:27 PM
@PetterFriberg A soda that's made in Italy and sent to US for sale ;)
 
lol
 
lol.. honestly I doubt it is made in Italy
 
@PetterFriberg Apperently is the USA being the USA again: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_soda
 
@NathanOliver St. Pellegrino?
 
Despite its name, Italian soda originated in the USA
wow
 
7:28 PM
@PetterFriberg there's italian ice...
literally never heard a flavored water be called "italian soda" before
 
interesting thanks
 
French fries aren't French too.
So.....
 
hehe
 
@queen ah true, I even have an answer of the linked dupe, completely forgot about it when I searched for dupes. Out of votes though :(
 
me too :(
 
7:37 PM
Tag it as C++ and I'll hammer it ;) (joking)
 
Sure, and then we remove the tag just after. In the smoke screen, nobody saw anything!
 
lol
 
anyone knows of a canonical meta q discussing if "how to install x" are on topic?
 
8:02 PM
@NathanOliver yeah, saw that one, still :(
 
yeah :(
 
I knew that godaddy question would have stirred a storm, but I didn't knew so many people would be on the side of harming the site's quality
 
That delete the locked Q, Q?
 
yeah
but don't worry, time is on our side!
 
I was surprised as well
 
8:09 PM
Which one? There's so many...
 
@Machavity user:792066 created:2d.. godaddy in meta
 
not linking meta per FAQ
 
Someone is upset with Meagar
 
i need some SQL help
if anyone is willing to
 
8:13 PM
@Perfect_Comment Sure you're in the right room?
 
No
O right my apoligies
 
Sorry we do not do that here. You can try a SQL chat room or posting a question on main.
 
:D
 
Have you tried asking a question on this site?
 
Stack oveflow?
isnt that.....
 
8:13 PM
@Perfect_Comment make sure that you search before asking the question
 
@Perfect_Comment Take care ....
 
on the gripping hand, recommended series from me: Mr Robot. I haven't seen any BS
 
I've been meaning to watch that. It is supposed to be good. I was very disappointed by Blackhat the movie.
Awww...
 
@Braiam Ah, that one. Misread what Nathan said. Thought a Meta had to be deleted
 
I even used a comma to try and make it clear :(
Later all
 
8:19 PM
@NathanOliver you have to use the oxford comma next time
 
@Braiam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 2 mins ago, by zaq
drob got into Time with his Trumptweet story.
^ that is funny
 
I did not know that there exists an answer for such questions stackoverflow.com/questions/38905271/…
 
@Perfect_Comment you can do an insert ignore with a cross join probably
or just ask me over in Campaigns . I don't think your question has good tags on it
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
8:27 PM
@FirstStep shh @πάνταῥεῖ will hear you
 
rene passed a audit!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ he is bullying me somewhere else that is fine :P
 
@Braiam Wow, they closed the question. And the reason was the other one was older boggled
 
ops I meant "@Machavity he is bullying me somewhere else that is fine :P"
wrong tag
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 13 seconds, averaging to a review every 3 minutes and 16 seconds.
 
8:35 PM
@Machavity Why shh actually? I appreciate to hear (read) them (just duped).
 
sigh what was the idea of Travis?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Was kidding. I knew it had to have some sort of dupe somewhere (too basic not too)
 
@FirstStep I did bully you? Can't remember, if you feel so it's probably a misunderstanding.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I meant it the good way
 
bullying is a sign of affection
 
8:37 PM
I learn from you, and I respect old people :P :P so i accept your "good" bullying
 
@FirstStep In fact you're the 1st user companion I find here, that I'm trying to mentor and helping out of the mud. C++ attendees are rare here.
 
wait let me translate "attendees" lol
got it ))
I hear a lot that a programmer should learn a new language every two years (or something like that)
I don't think I should stick to c++ then
 
@FirstStep Write a website in PHP. You'll have to learn HTML5, CSS, JS, and PHP at the bare minimum
 
also, I notice on SO the usage of C++ (questions tagged with c++) are way less than c#, python and Java
almost half
 
they wised up and split
 
8:42 PM
@FirstStep I disagree. Your contribution at the tag seem to be very helpful.
 
or strtok, one of the two
 
Should I flag for this question? If so, what category would it fit?
 
@techspider No, because it was deleted
 
@Drew strtok() mainly refers to code. Also check: stackoverflow.com/questions/236129/split-a-string-in-c
 
@Machavity ah, I alerted user and I think OP might have delete it
 
8:45 PM
@techspider yes
 
@techspider Even still, it doesn't look off-topic. Interesting they have a typo there
 
@FirstStep Even if I don't have at my favorite list, I had some good interventions e.g. @HovercraftFullOfEels
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I had a very, very, very taught professor, and I had to get the A at any cost. so I learned c++ the hard way. I loved(still) it so much and it is my favorite. But as career wise, I am confused between mastering one thing (c++) or be diversity (learn many languages)
 
@Machavity It does ask about a typo issue in a different site; We can't fix or help anything on that
 
@FirstStep Be diverse, check what I've been listing at my profile. Though c++ is one of my pets (aside the gecko)
 
8:48 PM
P.s I am at the beginning my career as a programmer. I should know now what to do. I managed to learn c# (which I found it as relatively easier maybe because I know c++)
 
@FirstStep If you got that A it was probably deserved then ;)
 
I got A and a scholarship from him :) he asked me to work with him on his project Neural Network for localizing, detecting and recognizing objects in videos and I was like f* yeah !!! lol
 
@FirstStep Do whatever you need to do, don't lock yourself into a single lnguage entering the industry.
 
ok now back to business. this went personal and every one must be looking at the chat now as like "ehmmmm popcorn or leave" lol
 
@FirstStep Why? I've got my popcorn already and I like to mentor you.
 
8:55 PM
the programming language is only part of the job; for many jobs, you want to find a problem space which interests you, then probably use whatever language they use
 
It is just the room is public and someone might be annoyed... I don't know :P
@tripleee exactly. back to that professor.
exactly what he said :)
 
so if it's basic electrical engineering or device drivers, probably C; if it's data analysis, Python would be my pick, though you can get by with pretty much anything from R to Haskell to C/C++
 
when he asked me to work with him, I was like sure as long as it is c++.
he said exactly what you just said. Don't mind of the language, check the problem
 
when I was a rookie, I thought I had to learn C. It was a relief to find that Perl and shell script were popular at my first job (though those guys will probably have moved to Python now, too)
if you actually like C++ I guess you like to write MVC programs?
 
8:59 PM
@FirstStep Seem we're much less annoyed compared to the C++ Lounge or Tavern, etc.
 
@tripleee what? You didn't get to use antigravity?
 

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