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Sam
12:11 AM
Night guys
 
user3956566
night
 
1:03 AM
@closey alive?
Nope... I'll try tomorrow. G'night y'all.
 
@theB Closey was shutdown: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/31319180#31319180 due to some maintenance
 
1:34 AM
Good 'ole wingy
 
@QPaysTaxes your comments are awesome
 
Just to recall:
7 hours ago, by Petter Friberg
@All RO I would suggest a new rule on rude/offensive flag request, other users should not comment on post... this only creates more comments...
Like one comment is probably okay to kill the grace period, but we don't all FUN.
 
@Rizier123 That wasn't a rude/offensive flag, that was someone trolling
 
No need for a new rule... we already ask for just 1 member to comment. That the answer is abuse changes nothing.
 
@QPaysTaxes That we shouldn't have fun under abusive/rude posts and post like 10 comments.
 
1:37 AM
@JacobGray Wingding has... history.
 
@Mogsdad How much of a history?
 
@QPaysTaxes Because for 1) We hate FUN(, which is funny) 2) It just adds noise when there are 2,3,5... comments under a abusive post
 
We've had an abuser turn on the people commenting & editing their posts, kinda stalking. Not common, but twice since last September, that I recall. Wingy is just annoying.
 
1:40 AM
Is it one person?
 
Not fun when messages appear on your kids' accounts.
(Unrelated to the incidents here, btw.)
 
We also had one which was watching our chat and writing messages as abusive answers. So we shouldn't give the spammer's attention and write "funny" comments under their posts.
 
@Rizier123 That is one of the incidents I'm talking about.
 
A userscript which puts the ["share", "edit", "flag"] at the top of the post when it is longer than like 10k chars would be useful.
 
1:59 AM
@Rizier123 The "sticky" part of this? stackapps.com/questions/6926/…
 
2:53 AM
@Rizier123 @QPaysTaxes How about this? gist.github.com/mogsdad/2e49f6128cfc53cc94321a58bff288ef
...not working in review, I don't know why. Enough fighting with it for tonight, I'm probably missing something really obvious.
 
3:05 AM
@Clo next tags
where's closey?
 
Closey is down for maintenance
 
Oh. Does anyone know where to find the "next tags" query?
 
'Night!
Don't burn the place down.
 
Hi @Undo! Did you get Yvette's problem fixed?
oh
 
3:27 AM
@NobodyNada Not sure what ended up happening there
We did establish that the notifications can make it to the phone, a test notif worked
 
3:57 AM
@NobodyNada Disagree, that's a tool commonly used by developers
 
@Undo It's about Apple's review policies. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/255745/… lists "Will Apple approve my app, and under what conditions?" as an off-topic question.
 
@NobodyNada I'd probably disagree there too, but I won't argue about it very much
 
@QPaysTaxes just made a simple userscript for now, it collapses the answer, I like it anyway :P
 
Are you making a bot?
You can look at some of my code for that at github.com/NobodyNada/chatbot
The joining room code is either in Client.c or ChatRoom.c; I don't remember
yeah, I hadn't done any C for a while and I decided to write it in C for fun
Goodnight everyone! o/
 
5:03 AM
@JacobGray Now I am.
 
 
1 hour later…
6:08 AM
UK vote to leave the EU passed, for anybody paying attention. 51.9% leave, 48.1% stay.
 
@RyanBemrose So either UK will get a much more Raw deal to stay in the shared market, or it will be catastrophic for the UK economy
 
6:31 AM
@Magisch or - as it already appears to be doing - cause a cascade for other countries in the EU to want their own referendums...
 
@JonClements That'd be even worse
The EU shared market collapsing would mean a completly unprecedented economic downturn for the entire world
 
6:56 AM
@QPaysTaxes Did you try asking on StackOverflow? :)
@QPaysTaxes What do you mean "grep over multiple files"? In cmd you can recursively search every file in the current directory tree with findstr /s text *. In PowerShell it's dir -r | sls regex
@QPaysTaxes Yeah, findstr has a strange regex syntax, and it can't handle Unicode files at all. The PS method is more robust.
Is the file UTF-16 or Unicode? Findstr can't handle 16-bit characters at all.
 
7:13 AM
Morning \o
Now that we have brexit realised, what will be the result for EU and GB ?
Morning QPays
 
@kayess A lot of people will freak out for a while. A lot of noise and ridiculous speculation on TV by politicians and pundits. Then everyone will wake up and go to work, eventually realizing that even if the exit continues full steam ahead, there's still two years before the actual exit occurs, and the process, like everything else in the EU will be plodding, measured, and fully planned before implemented.
 
I haven't read the news yet ... what happened with brexit?
 
@user2314737 It passed. 52-48 in favor of leaving the EU
 
I'm speechless
 
Wait what?
Plop everyone
Great Britain is leaving?
 
7:22 AM
England and Wales voted leave. Scotland, N. Ireland, and London voted stay. Cameron is on TV right now. Looks like he's resigning.
Says he's going to be PM for the next three months and then resign, while a new PM is chosen to manage the exit.
 
The British pound is going down, too.
 
@RyanBemrose Thanks for the heads up.
@RyanBemrose Hmm I thought that London is the capitol of England, how could they vote differently?
 
@kayess Dunno. Technically I think it might be a different country from England, but maybe they just split it out because it's the biggest city and a huge population center.
 
@kayess It's just interesting to see the difference between the main city citizens opinion and the others'
 
@kayess there's 382 (or something) areas in the country that accumulated the votes - see the map at bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results
 
7:29 AM
Ah thanks! So it's just statistics
 
So Britain is actually leaving now? o.o
@Yvette Morning o/
 
Britain is actually leaving sometime in the next two years. It's not a fast process.
 
@RyanBemrose I wonder how fast the economy will go downhill :/
 
@Seth I doubt it will, at least not long-term. There will be short-term instability while people figure out WTF just happened, but eventually trade agreements will be in place and everything will be fine.
 
@RyanBemrose I think europe is liable to let britain bleed for this
 
7:42 AM
@RyanBemrose Well, partly. The problem is that the free trade zone is now out of GBs reach.
 
the political pressure is already there, and the current EU leaders are not in a mood to negotiate much
 
And I doubt that the EU will allow GB to participate in it any longer.
@Magisch Merkel's pissed, too :D
 
@Magisch Europe needs Britain just as much as Britain needs Europe. More than half of the corporations in Europe are HQ'd in London.
 
If I had to take a guess, part of the conditions of remaining in the shared market will be more payments, more refugees, continued free labor movement and no buckling on any regulations
@RyanBemrose Thats office space. They can all leave in less then a year
 
And recall that prior to 2007 when the EU came together, all of these countries did just fine and traded with each other.
 
7:44 AM
Yeah
But now britain will be considered a foreign country with a foreign market
 
Many consider Britain as a "traitor" to the union
Before it was just a bunch of "solo-player" nations
 
And since their rebates and lax stance on things had been grandfathered in, they'll probably have to pay market price (e.g a LOT MORE) to get in again
 
now it's a one-vs-all
 
I don't think everything will be sunny and roses like the leave campaign wanted, but the stay campaign made it seem like the sky would fall and the earth would open up and swallow Britain if they left. I really don't think it will be that bad. Humans are pretty damn good at adapting.
 
Europe can get along without britain, but britain needs europe to not turn into a 3rd world country
 
7:46 AM
And if Europe really decides to put the screws to UK in trade, then UK will just trade with China or the US or Russia or, well, anyone else in the world.
 
I think either they'll ignore the vote (the parliament) or britain will get a marginally to significantly worse deal but all else will stay the same
 
@Magisch There is always the risk of that. But if the people in power really intended to ignore the will of the people, it would have been much better to just fix the election, rather than weather a political shitstorm after a successful leave vote.
They could learn a lot from the DNC.
 
@RyanBemrose Hindsight is 20/20
Its also possible that europa will just let britain bleed out until they come crying back trying to get back in, and then let them under new, much harsher conditions
 
Nah, it's the second most powerful nation economically after germany, that just won't happen
 
@kayess Virtually all of its economy is manufacturing and headquarters and financial
Which is an industry that can leave quickly
Japanese investors are already recalling capital from britain
 
7:52 AM
Or as has been said above by @RyanB they could just quickly turn to china, usa, russia and problem is solved :p
 
@kayess None of these countries would let them trade sans tarifs
 
@Magisch I think you greatly underestimate the effort involved in relocating an entire workforce. Sure the tables and chairs can be packed up easily enough, but you've either got to move your people or find new ones on the other side - not easy to do with knowledge workers.
 
and selling to china and russia is something they're already doing, but the tarifs make them non compretitive
@RyanBemrose Most of the people in corporate HQs are common majors, relocating a HQ will probably take less then a year
 
hehe, I think we are too far from the fire to tell that :p
 
@Magisch (and maybe others) Can you verify the claim about friendship being an OOP term?
 
7:57 AM
@rene any thoughts about this? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/325744/…
 
@rene Friend is an OOP term, friendship is not
See
With 990 questions and a decent tag wiki
 
@kayess didn't I already touched that and burned my self?
 
Hiya
 
@Magisch I'm a bit short on time (should already have been in a car towards a meeting), can you defend it a bit?
 
@rene did you?:)
 
8:00 AM
@rene It is a C++ term.
 
@HansPassant So in your line of reasoning sqlite3 should be a synonym of sqlite, right? — rene Jun 8 at 10:57
 
@rene So whats the next stage of that meta Q ?
 
Now I'm really afk
 
Meh OK, cya \o
 
8:11 AM
Hi ya all
can anyone help me to move that question to academia stack, please ? stackoverflow.com/questions/37988991/…
 
I think it's not worth moving that question tbh.
 
why @seth?
 
The people on academia would give us a boatload of shit for migrating a question like that to their page.
It's pretty specific (as in "Does this add value for other users?" "Probably not"), and it needs a thorough edit.
 
argh. Out of my personal values, I will not amend his question. It would be too easy
 
@AndyK @AndyK @Seth could be a question for workplace.stackexchange.com?
 
8:20 AM
 
please ignore my last post (I can't delete it)
 
8:40 AM
Could someone with insta-edit possibility retag this to c# and integration-testing please? stackoverflow.com/questions/38009047/nunit-parallel-testing
 
@kayess done
 
Thanks! Also a quick question about if the could be retagged to ? The first makes no sense to me, has only 68 questions, and are basically each is about integration-testing.
You could rip out the testing tag I think, it's now just "duplicate" with the other tag added ?
 
@kayess Seems to make sense :) has no wiki either. Seems like a dead tag.
 
@Seth Get to teh metaz!!!1
 
@kayess Retag it all!
 
8:43 AM
@Seth Nono, we need meta first I think. Also I can't help doing it because I have no 3K yet...
 
@kayess suggest a synonym
 
@Magisch Mind making a meta about these opinions? Or shall I do it?
 
@kayess posted
 
@Magisch Woot! Could you add options like as: 1. synonimize 2. retag 3. retag and burninate ? Also a link to our chat conversation as source for mods in case ? Or it makes no sense?
 
I think its a fairly simple and straightforward thing
If anyone disagrees, they'll answer and/or vote
 
8:51 AM
Maybe, I'm not an expert on meta things.
 
120 more answers in and I get the gold badge :o
I already have the score for it
 
Too bad I can't edit your question :p
 
@kayess Well, you can pastebin me an edit and I'll put it in
 
@SmokeDetector we like black list or not, I rolled back for now.
 
@Magisch What do you think ? pastebin.com/QGXDxKW8
 
9:02 AM
I don't think retagging is worth it
a synonym already does most of what you want
 
@kayess give it 6 to 8 months ?
 
Yack! Upvote on spam
 
@Tushar wot
Should we modflag upvotes on spam?
 
that spam has 1 upvote, blind people even upvoted spam
 
@Magisch I just wanted to give broader options to pick from, but probably you are right there :)
sd k someone ?
 
9:22 AM
> My name is Teodor Danciu, founder of the JasperReports project and
I wanted to personally thank you for your incredible contribution to
the Jaspersoft community on Stackoverflow.
You really make a big difference for our users and I am very happy to see that
you are being recognized as the Featured Jaspersoft Community Member for Q3 of 2016.
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Nice!!!, I will sneak in some publicity for SOCVR!
 
@PetterFriberg :o
 
Email this morning : )
 
Gz :D
 
9:45 AM
@PetterFriberg Dayum! :D
 
damn oops too slow
 
@TimCastelijns scrub
:D
 
Careful now
I don't live that far from you
 
public Kyll getKyll (location kyllLocation) throws kyllNotFound Exception
 
9:57 AM
Perhaps we should give queen and tuna their private room, with all the Java dupes flying around
 
@Magisch shouldn't location be capitalized?
 
10:12 AM
It's so hard to find a decent online training course with these posts constantly getting instantly deleted
 
@AndrasDeak lol
 
@Magisch why do you need a method for that? Since Kyll is singleton...
 
@TimCastelijns This is attracting bad answers in the same way that a big pile of sh... is attracting boatloads of flies... Disgusting :/
 
Yes well nobody really cares
 
@Seth please don't link to user profiles..
 
10:23 AM
Is it normal for questions not to have a programming language tag?
 
@Zulan It can make sense yes. A real Android specific question may not need the [java] tag.
 
Goes both ways. Most "android" questions that really just ask about java snippets don't need the android tag
 
also that ^
 
I wish I could just single handedly insta-delete questions like this
and ban everyone who answers them
Well maybe not that last part :P
Nobody will be left
 
@Tunaki Sorry.
 
10:32 AM
@JonClements thanks for the clean up (y) it was really bothering me
 
@QPaysTaxes @JacobGray Please don't comment on those Smokey posts stackoverflow.com/a/38004356/1743880 (MetaSmoke link). It is a know troll and the comments feed it even more.
 
What does the (Y) symbol mean?
 
where?
 
peace/victory
your index and middle finger forming a V, a gesture
I think
 
@kayess No. It's "Thumbs up"
 
that ^
 
Yes thumbs up
 
Yeah ok thanks.
 
Also looks like a female with crossed legs
 
user3956566
10:38 AM
@Seth hi Seth, sorry I didn't see your hello, as I was posting cls requests, so wasn't in the room for real (just ghostly presence)
 
but it's supposed to be a thumbs up
 
@TimCastelijns lol:D
never unseen
 
I'm not sorry :p
 
ascii voyeurism
 
user3956566
@kayess it's when people are discussing me in whispers (Y)
 
10:40 AM
@Yvette I hope you're feeling okay?
 
@Yvette o.o Yvette is a ghost now...
 
@JonClements how about you. with the vote being over?
 
user3956566
@JonClements lol yes it was a lame attempt at humour. I forgot I really need to stop trying that
 
Brace yourselves... Brexit is coming...
 
@Seth bah - it'll be fine :)
going to be a bit rocky for a bit - but nothing that won't get sorted out
 
10:43 AM
@JonClements Hope so c: It'll take a while for it all to settle down though.
 
@JonClements I think we'll get another 2008 at best
 
in the mean time at least the whisky'll be cheap on the continent, with the pound sterling in an almost free fall
 
@Adriaan it's already going back up :)
 
Bank stocks have already fallen sharply with no tendency but further down. We're already close to triggering a wave of automated margin calls again and then the entire house of cards that is the international financial industry will fold once more
 
@TimCastelijns A Meta post for a cv-pls you made here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/326792/question-still-on-hold (cc @tripleee @PaulRoub @Mogsdad @Kyll)
 
10:45 AM
still seems really broad
 
@Tunaki looks good. No action required it seems
 
@JonClements quick! Send a few bottles over!
 
@Magisch The DAX is at his lowest since 2008, and the british pound is at his lowest since 1985 :D
@JonClements Need some, too!
 
Thanks britain for most likely collapsing the world economy again
>_>
 
@Tunaki I don't really participate in meta, and I don't know the rules of when a Q is too broad by heart, so I'm not going to defend my cv-pls there
 
10:48 AM
@TimCastelijns sure, just wanted to let you know
 
thanks for the ping :)
 
@Magisch Na, only the EU eco :3
 
@Magisch we saved it from two world wars - we're just going to save it from an economic war this time.... :p
 
@JonClements I can see not much happening (best case) to "The UK breaks apart and england becomes a third world country and the world economy collapses once more" (worst case) on the horizon
 
Scrap EU, lets just all join Britain and switch to pound, feet's and and other imperial fun stuff.... we even get another Queen?
 
10:50 AM
Nah, move a little south to the Channel, best place there.
 
Long live the Queen!
 
I hear there's a great country south of the Channel.
 
Tbh if Europe's leaders are smart they'll let the UK bleed out until a political revolution and then dictate harsh conditions to them when they want back in
Because thats what the EU could do now.
 
@Tunaki sorry if I come across annoyed. It's not related to this meta post
 
And that'd only prove the fact why we wanted out, wouldn't it?
 
10:52 AM
You would have no choice then to get back in though
 
@TimCastelijns don't worry, you always come across annoyed :p
(kidding, of course)
 
Political pressure on EU leaders is now such that the others want Britain to bleed (pay more, accept significantly more refugees, stricter regulations) for their transgressions. Its already being repeated by politicians all over europe, sadly
So this entire thing moves towards a confrontation
 
Well, I know some political party that are very happy with this. At least in France.
 
I do not think so, its not in the interest of anyone... Norway is doing ok without EU...
it will rock a bit but then all will get back to normal
 
the UK will suffer in some way from this
the only thing left to determine how much
 
10:54 AM
the heck
 
@Tunaki Both posts advertising this blog. Only posts by the user
(presumably)
 
The last ones are both spam.
 
ops
It is n...
 
Both are promoting his very own blog.
 
Instead of discussing questions etc, this chat room is now the go-to place to discuss the daily news
 
10:55 AM
Isn't "f" false? o.o I need to learn the SD vocab.
 
I was replying to first.
 
@Tunaki Both the webpages were by the writer of the answer. Looks like spam
 
Tuna to two last, reported by Yvettee
 
@Seth Yeah f as in false positive, and n as in "not an answer"
@AshishAhujaツ not blatant spam. I mean the page does answer the question
it is not selling watches
 
@Tunaki Yup. That makes some sense
 
10:57 AM
Yet it does not disclose authors affiliation.
 
@Tunaki still it's unsolicited advertising for his own product (a blog) without disclosing himself as the author.
 
Imo that's spam, by far not the worst type of spam but nonetheless spam.
 
I think a comment would have been enough... Nuking it for that is a bit harsh
 
I agree ^^, you can flag for mod if you like
 
It was an honest attempt IMO.
 
10:58 AM
@Tunaki It's iffy :/
One the one side he actually answers the question
On the other side he promotes his blog without disclosing affiliation.
But yeah, spam flagging it might've been a bit overkill. We'll see what other people flag it as.
 
I guess, but how sure are you that it is promoting? He links there simply because he doesn't know SO rules and that's the site he wrote the answer (so it can only be affiliated somehow to them)
 
Maybe he is a user of today that wanted to help out with good faith, show his blog on the issue, we should teach him not nuke him
 

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