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4:01 PM
@Yvette run away. Typical first sign of a help vampire.
 
user3956566
don't tell anyone, I actually have a meta post with no downvotes shhhhhhhhhhhh
 
@Yvette frantically searches
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver if he edits the question to change it, I hit him with my handy dandy link that I keep on my profile for such occasions and roll back the edit
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao hey!!! I didn't say which meta on with site, or even which interwebs..
 
4:03 PM
I edited a bit the Q @Yvette
 
user3956566
@Tunaki yeh saw that, gave your edit an upvote lol
 
@Tunaki heyyy \o
I saw the quick ping and thought "Ashish must be around"
 
@Yvette experts-exchange
 
user3956566
@gunr2171 stack-exactly
 
user3956566
where was that link on meta to sexperts for our logo? @BhargavRao was it a question of yours on the rendering of the site on mobiles?
 
4:07 PM
@Yvette Nope
 
user3956566
huh go figure, I just got a downvote for that android answer.. I swear to Heaven, almost every post (except that meta one I mentioned) has a downvote.
 
Dunno, but the try-catch(Exception) spanning lots of lines isn't pretty :)
 
user3956566
@Tunaki meh neither here nor here.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki it's bomb proof, shouldn't ever throw an exception (famous last programmers words ever!)
 
Whats funny is I just had someone call me about a run-time error that popped up in internet exploder.
 
4:13 PM
I love the kind of comments "This should NEVER happen" that you sometimes find in code, and suddently.... it does!
 
ThisShouldNeverHappenException
^ great kudos there
 
user3956566
@SotiriosDelimanolis love it.
 
I'd prefer AssertionError myself. At least the intent is clear :)
 
user3956566
smokey is sick, vomiting gook
 
4:17 PM
@SmokeDetector has 1 delete vote
 
@BhargavRao you are mistaken ;)
 
You both are.
 
Inb4 @tuna replies to Nath Nope
 
Too late.
 
@Tunaki I never put a number so I can't be mistaken :p
 
4:20 PM
afk commute home
 
commute safe
 
Flowers have also started migrating?
 
#define THIS_SHOULD_NEVER_HAPPEN()
There's even a constant for it in that project
 
What's fun is when you see the console print "this is never reached".
 
4:23 PM
Morning!
 
Sam
Morning!
 
Morning!
 
Hi o/
 
Afternoon!
public class ThisShouldNeverHappenException extends RuntimeException {
 
@rene the new wording of rule 2 is awkward, could do with some copy-editing.
 
user3956566
4:26 PM
@ArtOfCode I second that
 
@ArtOfCode I agree. Points 2-5 should be grouped together under an "Exceptions" point.
 
wonders why everyone waited for rene to leave to give feedback
 
pull requests are welcome
 
@gunr2171 pull
 
har har (¬_¬)
 
4:33 PM
> (Meta) attention where a bad example is used to justify other crap;
What exactly is that supposed to say?
 
4 hours ago, by Tunaki
> This question is bad and it's open, why can't I ask my worse question?!
 
So it's saying we can cv-pls the new question or the old question?
 
The old one to stop it from being an excuse.
 
It's saying that any crap questions that are used as examples of "questions that aren't closed" can be cv-pls'd to kill the example
 
Is there any good Meta Q&A explaining that gold badgers should dupehammer questions instead of answering them?
 
4:38 PM
@Gothdo Lol. The FAQ. meta.stackexchange.com/a/10844
I searched for one and this is the best it gets.
 
looking
alright merged, thanks!
 
user3956566
do you think the edit to this meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/323706/… invalidates the answer somewhat?
 
Anyone else think it is uncouth to both answer and vtc a question?
 
@Yvette I don't think so
 
user3956566
4:53 PM
@NobodyNada thanks
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver yes
 
@NathanOliver I think it's OK when it's a typo. Post an answer explaining the typo & then VTC
 
@NathanOliver I did once. Posted an answer, Searched for dupes, Hammer and then delved the answer. Worked out well as there were no competing answers ;)
 
But do you answer a too broad question and vote to close it at the same time?
 
Nope. That's awkward.
 
4:56 PM
OK. Just want to make sure I am not off my rocker(anymore than I am already).
 
user3956566
my God! this is so rewarding! stackoverflow.com/questions/37417777/…
 
@NathanOliver No; but occasionally I leave a comment
 
user3956566
@Nath what looked like may be a help vampire, turned out to learn from the code!!
 
@NobodyNada That's fine. Even a CW answer is okay. I just don't think you should be able to gain rep while others cannot.
 
Yeah, I understand that. Do you all think it's okay to answer a typo question, to explain the typo, and then VTC?
 
5:00 PM
I have done that when the typo needed more formatting then a comment can give you.
 
@NobodyNada Only if you can't explain that in a comment.
 
Alright. In the past, I've usually posted an answer, but I'll leave comments in the future. Thanks!
 
but I don't want to go to the graveyard. It is scary, there is a grave robber in there
 
what an answer
@NathanOliver Need. To. Follow. Links.
@Petter @Nathan @rene ^^ looks alright?
 
5:16 PM
Clear, yes; Answerable, no. Conclusion, leave closed
 
user3956566
it was edited back and forth and back and forth
 
Woot. I rep-capped, it's been a long time.
 
Nice, Congrats
 
user3956566
@Tunaki pfffffffffffffft (i wish I could make a raspberry sound) oops did I say that out loud? Congratulations :D
 
I have seen mistaken Q's posted to meta but never before an answer: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/323719/4342498
 
user3956566
5:19 PM
@NathanOliver poor person. omg
 
> Thanks, this fixed my problem (Java 7).
 
Sympathy upvote?
 
@NathanOliver harsh delete vote
 
Idli Dosa
 
@Tunaki You rep-capped 122 times before.
 
5:21 PM
I don't remember when was the last time though.
 
April 25
 
check chat. You probably posted about it ;)
 
lol :)
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver that was me!!!!!
 
user3956566
@Gothdo bloody show off oh isn't he amazing :D
 
5:25 PM
Yeah I didn't ping you but I though it was you
 
It will be soon forgotten in the dark oblivion where all deleted posts remain.
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver yep you know I'm a massively a tad over sensitive to being pinged by ROs. next she'll complain about not being pinged
 
Btw, shouldn't it be "You will be able to ask one question in one day."?
 
@Yvette I really hope you are joking. I just didn't do it as at the time Gothdo's comment wasn't there.
 
pedant mode engaged
 
5:27 PM
@Yvette Well, Jon Skeet rep-capped more than 2k times :)
 
@Tunaki Tunaki.pedant_mode.terminate();
 
user3956566
@Gothdo bloody show off wow isn't he amazing!! lol
 
Aw
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver what the dickens are you talking about?
 
Sam
@Yam stats
 
Yam
5:29 PM
I'm currently watching 600 posts.
 
I can't even complain it should be pedantMode now instead of pedant_mode :(
 
user3956566
@Gothdo for the record you know I'm not calling you a show off yes? This online communication can become confusing
 
eww camelCase
 
@Tunaki but if he types it wrong; then it won't work!
 
@Yam look who's a busy lad
 
5:30 PM
@Yvette I hoped you were joking and you were not actually upset that I did not ping you. I didn't ping you since my message was the next message until Gothdo decided to be a ninja and sneak in between.
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver erm,, I thought you were asking me about the pity upvote.. thank God (cos I was not joking) I was indeed joking about the ping. Making fun of myself.
 
This is becoming confusing. Let's all have waffles.
6
 
Seconded
 
thirded
 
@Tunaki what's with that star count?
is it just me or is it alternating between 3 and 4?
 
5:33 PM
@NobodyNada Someone is having fun =/
 
Must. Destroy. Fun
 
user3956566
What's wrong with camel case?
4
 
haha
 
@Yvette went with too broad
 
user3956566
5:38 PM
 
Well, at least you have a reason for downvotes...
 
user3956566
@Tunaki nah it wasn't him
 
user3956566
look at his voting history stackoverflow.com/users/5082285/…
 
user3956566
am I supposed to show everything? isn't it ok to address the answer?
 
He seems to imply it could be done in a better way. I can't tell - Android is Chinese for me.
 
5:45 PM
@Tunaki hmm, it's more French to me
 
:)
 
user3956566
@Tunaki he is mentioning a whole stretch of code I have not posted, but have writtem, like I am a moron
 
But if (locationManager != null) { is redundant, otherwise it would have thrown a NPE at the line before.
 
@Sam Can I send you the bot's credentials with PGP so you have them for when you host the bot?
 
Sam
@NobodyNada Wouldn't it be easier to just send them via email?
 
user3956566
5:53 PM
@Tunaki no
 
oh?
 
@Sam Well, I'd rather not publish my email address in a public chatroom. If you're okay with it though, I can send them to you from the bot's email account.
 
Sam
@NobodyNada That's not a problem. I'll give you mine.
 
-_- about to say I can redact your email address, but this is SO chat
 
Don't worry @NobodyNada, I'll already have the root password to your computer.
 
5:55 PM
@Sam BotAttack!
 
Sam
@ArtOfCode I have two personal addresses. ;)
 
@Sam sensible
 
SkyNet start
 
If you wanna exchange 'em in CHQ, I can redact it.
 
@Tunaki except that my computer has root login disabled, therefore no root password
 
5:56 PM
Ha, that is what you think.
:D
 
user3956566
night
 
root:*:0:0:System Administrator:/var/root:/bin/sh
@Yvette night
 
night o/
 
Sam
@Nobody Send 'em to: arcticecho@outlook.com (@everyoneElse, feel free to sign me up for some spamz)
 
@Sam duly noted.
 
6:00 PM
@Sam sure, lemme go find the worst spammers I can...
I do have a database of almost 30k spammers...
 
Sam
Yup
 
well, spam posts.
 
@Sam well; I accidentally sent it before I finished typing. I sent it from the bot's email BTW
 
@ArtOfCode I was going to say you just need to give smokey the email
 
Sam
6:01 PM
@NobodyNada Thanks! Interesting choice of pwd.
 
@NathanOliver Have it scan posts for email addresses. Send an email to every address it finds with a Reply-To: arcticecho@outlook.com\r\n header.
 
Sam
Just lemme know when you're ready for the bot to be deployed. @Nobody
 
evil
 
@ArtOfCode It's a Correct Horse Battery Staple password.
Plus an intentional typo; to prevent dictionary attacks, making it even more secure.
@Sam Alright! It shouldn't be too long before then; I need to make it a bit more robust and add a makefile to compile on Linux.
 
6:04 PM
I'm going to be on vacation this weekend though, so it probably won't be before then.
 
@ArtOfCode When does the invalidation occur in the MetaSmoke?
 
Sam
global::Projects.BotsWithAdminAccess++;
@NobodyNada Sounds like a plan.
 
@Sam ++Add Self;
 
@NobodyNada oops; I replied to the wrong message
 
Sam
So wait, this is the ninth bot I have creds to. Let's add one more!
 
6:07 PM
ninth? wow
 
phst. Ninth?
 
Sam
:p
4 are mine. The rest belong to friends.
 
is there a burninate request/effort for yet?
 
"Friends", you mean other bots making bots right?
 
@Sam Are you in the Robotics Team yet, btw?
 
6:08 PM
I'm sure we have [policy] to find out
 
Sam
@TylerH Yeah, I was accepted a week or so ago.
 
cool
 
Sam
Thanks for pointing the team out btw.
@Tunaki Maybe I just programmed you to say that?
 
Did I just realize my bot condition?
 
np
Tunaki is now self aware, press the shutdown button quickly
 
Sam
6:11 PM
Code red; freethinker.
 
Is this question on-topic on SO?
 
looks okay to me
 
Isn't it a better fit on Unix.SE?
 
Sam
Afk
 
meh. It is one of those that could be in a couple places. It might get more views here.
 
6:26 PM
Magic Editor is stupid, it turned question title "communication between JS, PHP and MySQL" into "Communication between JavaScript," -.-
 
Joke or serious?
 
Seriously.
Reason: "removed tags from title"
 
@Gothdo Can you report that on github then? cc@Mogsdad
 
@NathanOliver Ok.
 
6:28 PM
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version c71d6d08 on master, running for 2 days, 1 hour, and 54 minutes (tracking latency 1382ms).
 
@Yam still too broad
 
Thanks
@PraveenKumar Not sure if want to review it again. The OP pinged me and he added more detail to the question
 
@NathanOliver Which one?
Still no MCVE...
 
6:41 PM
The one I pinged you on
 
@NathanOliver Yea... Still unclear, no mcve...
 
np. just checking
 
@Tunaki More a maven problem then a jasper-reports problem, so I have no clue
 
6:57 PM
@NobodyNada thanks for the update, much appreciated
 
no problem
 
@ArtOfCode that is because I am awkward so you all remember that when I make up new rules....
 
My daughter is learning to count... Amelia: "1", "2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7", pauses, "10". Me: "Most people put 8 and 9 after 7, but if you want to learn octal we can learn that too". Amelia: "No daddy I only want to count in octal".
12
 
Whenever I play hide and seek, I always count in hex
 
Whenever I play hide and seek... Just kidding. I have no friends to play ;_;
7
 
7:04 PM
@BhargavRao I'd offer to play with you, but my cameras in your house would ruin the game
 
That's not a problem. Let's play at your home!
 
@BhargavRao What if he has cameras in his house too?
 
@Gothdo Then I can catch him ;)
 
Cameras in your own house for watching yourself? Kyll is weird, confirm.
 
@BhargavRao There's not nearly enough space in that tree hole to hide a Bhargav =p
 
7:18 PM
@Kyll A Spearrel's hole is a door to the universe.
 
Sam
@BhargavRao Join the club!
 
Evening! \o
 
Hi o/
 
@kayess Hello \o
 
7:22 PM
Hi @kayess
 
Hi
 
Hiya @BhargavRao @NobodyNada @Gothdo @Nat @ren \o
@Kyll \o
 
Oi @kayess
 
@QPaysTaxes yep; that's off topic
 
yes, asking for an off-site resource
 
7:24 PM
Hiya gunr\o
 
yo
quick, everyone change their answer!
no problem
 
@QPaysTaxes closevoted
 
might as well make it official
 
couldn't resist
 
eyeroll
we have a script that moves all those messages there.
keeps the transcript lighter, and easier to look up later
 
7:29 PM
we also have a userscript that generates those cv-pls for you from the question
 
we also have a userscript that generates those userscripts
 
/facepalm
yo dawg, I herd you liek userscripts....
 
Plop kayess, gunr, QPaysTaxes
 
Oh great a serial downvote! Woot!
 
@Kyll yo
@Tunaki add extra milk. Cereal downvotes are part of a balanced breakfast.
4
 
7:37 PM
@NathanOliver Is it? There's only one answer, and it's fairly short...
Granted, there's 8 expressions, but the whole body of an answer wouldn't exceed 200 characters
 
hum, I'm actually going to go with Kyll on this one. I think a heavy edit is warranted to make "homework" go away and turn it into a practical example.
granted, it's still downvote worthy because of lack of research
 
It's plain useless that's what it is
 
but should it be closed?
 
it should be deleted
 
Let me go fetch that "Too localized" reason...
 
7:40 PM
and the only to get it deleted is to close it
unless you want to wait 1 year
 
Uh, last edit makes it Unclear though
Or No MCVE
Since we don't know what's wrong with the guesses
I hate when we have to debate over how close-worthy a bad post is
 
You added in your guesses, which is one step closer to a good post. You should have access to a compiler. The next thing to do is try out each of those expressions to see if the value you get is what you expect. If you get a different answer, that is the question to post here. — gunr2171 just now
I'm going unclear
 
@Nathan we have our Java C++ question of the day stackoverflow.com/q/37422065/1743880
 
ru.stackoverflow.com/questions/527167/… why was this migrated to ru.SO? It's neither a programming question, nor in Russian.
 
@Tunaki Isn't it a good one? Looks like the OP hit a quality filter because of it
 
7:44 PM
PLEASE don't close this as she probably won't be able to respond to developer inquiry on the Russian meta site. Hang tight. — Tim Post ♦ 38 mins ago
we had ONE job!
 
@Kyll Yes as it is 8 different questions
 
@NathanOliver Yeah. And they cross-posted on CodeReview, that is not cool.
 
nope
 
@gunr2171 Heh, Tim will deal with it
 
@gunr2171 Good comment btw
 
7:46 PM
thanks
afk for THE BEST 60 MINUTES OF MY LIFE......
</massive-sarcasm>
 
SQL teaching?
Meeting?
 
meeting
 
I'm afk for a bit also.
 
good luck
 
but its not wednesday
 
Sam
7:47 PM
May the downvotes be with you.
 
it's the meeting about the meeting tomorrow
5
I'm not joking
 
@NathanOliver Every day is meeting day for @gunr
 
this is my life
 
@Kyll :)
@gunr2171 ouch
 
On Thursday there's the debriefing meeting
 
7:48 PM
@gunr2171 what strange job are you in?
 
On Friday that's the next-week-planning meeting
On Monday we have the this-week-planning-according-to-latest-spec-changes meeting
And it starts all over again
 
Don't forget the pre-meeting to make sure you have everything for the actual meeting.
 
@PraveenKumar when I click a shiny button
 
Only 3 close votes left
 
Bye all, Time to sleep \o
 
Sam
7:54 PM
Cya
 
Cya
 
Bye
 
FYI, today I finally got my Stack Overflow t-shirt :)
 
Sweet. I still need to win swag, or get 100K
 
7:58 PM
Do all 100kers get swag?
 
Jon Skeet runs a web-shop of his swag
 
8:15 PM
@ArtOfCode That's soooooo bad... :'( Pity my feedbacks... :P
 
@PraveenKumar there ain't no other system to do it
 
@ArtOfCode :P
 
How possibly this got an upvote?
 
8:42 PM
> This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post.
Just got that comment on my answer.
here - I think this actually does provide an answer to the question. The answer is so short because the solution is so simple.
 
That's the LQP doing its job very wrong, as usual.
Let me review that queue, eh
 
@Gothdo Let me comment after I flagged
<!-- does this comment remove this answer from LQP? -->
 
Yeah, I know I'm cheating.
But it actually worked.
> This item is no longer reviewable.
 
Rofl
 
Also, I removed that during the grace period, so it doesn't appear in the review history.
 
8:50 PM
Yeah, better not tbh
If it ever gets reviewed by someone interested it will look very weird
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Not everyone looks at the markdown.
 
rene passed a audit!
 

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