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12:02 PM
By the way, is there such a thing as delete-vote-please? Or is that not appropriate for this chat? I didn't find anything about delete votes in the chat faq
 
there's been some discussions, there are unwritten rules which nobody knows
see also this
 
@Lundin yes, you can pass a [tag:delete-pls] with a good reason (like won't be roombad, no added value, etc...)
 
most egregious of crap can be pls'd, I guess
 
Wouldn't the reason always be "it's unsalvagable crap"?
 
Ideally, yes. But I can imagine someone saying "yet another nullpointerexception with 3 upvoted answers and an accepted one"
I assume that superficially valuable posts should not be del-pls'd
mostly because of ensuing meta drama
 
12:05 PM
hiya
 
hey
 
If all your del-pls are unsalvagable crap that won't be roombad then you would be doing it right :)
 
today i meet one parasan i told him since few days dont post link only answer
or not post answer look like comment
 
12:06 PM
How is that?
 
then i got nice reply who are you and you dont have any other work instead of advice me lol
 
@Lundin that won't be roombad ;)
 
haha
 
-4, closed, no answers, will be gone in 9 days
 
that will be roombad
@Lundin roomba meta
 
12:07 PM
At just what is roombad? Room bad as in this chat room? Or roomba as in the vacuum clearer?
 
generally speaking, upvoted answers and accepted answers are the main obstacle in roomba's way
@Lundin latter, see my link above:)
 
is there a list of preferred cv-pls abbrs?
 
Aah ok.
 
@AnttiHaapala there's a cv-pls userscript
does that help?:)
 
Since, like close-votes, our delete-votes are limited, we just focus on what really needs a vote.
 
12:09 PM
(everything) :D
 
:D
the bottom 99% anyway
 
lol
 
To whomever is here from meta: I'm only joking.
liek, fo realz
 
g'morning
 
But are you joking when you say that you're joking?
 
12:10 PM
Hiya
 
I am using the perhaps-obsolete cv-pls ff addon
 
add-on? wow
 
is that better? :D
 
The userscript? Dunno, I haven't used it, and I had no idea there's an add-on:D
but the userscript is up to date, and a lot of guys are using it here
it generates posts like this one:
tag - reason - title - OP - date of OP posting
 
12:13 PM
hmm will that make our burier script fail
 
oops fixed to be on the safe side
 
@AnttiHaapala Here is the current US. It needs tampermonkey or greasemonkey: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/blob/master/…
That does deserve a boom
 
hmm that GM script works nicely, but it really doesn't list the reason abbreviations either?
 
@AnttiHaapala yes it does
 
perhaps not working properly in ff then?
 
12:20 PM
hmm:)
 
I can type anything in the box, there is nothing hinting that perhaps you should choose from this list or anything such, even though the source clearly lists them
 
yeah that could be improved :)
 
Feature request time!
 
would be nice if it had a typeahead or similar
 
I always assumed that there's a list of reasons to choose from with an option for a custom one
 
12:23 PM
@AndrasDeak assumed, so you're not using?
 
well I always use the checkbox inside the close dialog
 
ah :d
there is such a thing as well
(I'd voted on these already)
 
@Tunaki guess what
 
I know. The world ended.
We're in the grace period.
 
morning!
 
12:28 PM
Hiya
 
16 mins ago, by Andras Deak
The userscript? Dunno, I haven't used it, and I had no idea there's an add-on:D
 
@gunr2171 :p
 
@gunr2171 afternoon!
 
I so rarely cv-pls that I just write it up manually when necessary
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Hiya
 
12:30 PM
Hiya gunr
 
ugh, monday morning. time for yet another productive week
 
@gunr2171 boxing day FTW
 
isn't boxing day Dec 26th? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_Day
 
perhaps it's called a "bank holiday"
might be
2nd day of Pentecost is a public holiday nonetheless
 
why is this class so boring
 
12:37 PM
ah
 
learning about arrays -_-
 
pay attention, arrays are important
 
Arrays are all about rule 0.
 
if there is anything I've learned from Kill Bill, it's that lists are important.
 
declaring arrays as formal parameters to methods
 
12:41 PM
@AndrasDeak The cv-pls add-on doesn't help much in posting cv-pls stuff, it just adds a button in chat rooms, below the upload button which adds the [tag:cv-pls] for you. But it helps in viewing & managing cv-pls tagged stuff.
It gives a visual count on your avatar of any pending cv-pls tags, and the tagged posts themselves are modified: unvisited tagged questions are one-boxed, visited ones get a visited tag and the one-boxing disappears, and when a tagged question is closed its text gets striked out.
Note that the one-boxing only happens in your browser, it doesn't affect the display for other people in the chat room!
 
@NathanMarotta I've just installed that userscript, in a rather old version of Firefox. How do I use it? I can't see any new buttons anywhere...
 
@NathanOliver ^
 
@PM2Ring wow, thanks, that sounds pretty effective
 
12:50 PM
@AndrasDeak Oh, here's the link: github.com/cv-pls/ff-cv-pls
 
ah, thanks:)
 
@Yvette I reported a post - the user blacklisting is an automatic side-effect. Regardless of how long the user had been here, they had posted a string of self-promotional answers on old questions, which warranted monitoring of further posts.
 
> Note that 1. wasn't executed during the test. We implemented a less invasive option by leaving a comment. We still feel the re-tag is needed for new requests.
I'm not sure that block makes sense, I had to read it 3 times and I'm vaguely familiar with the process
I mean, leave coment where? Re-tag what?
 
let me find an example
 
I mean, I realized eventually what you mean, but a lot of people might get confused
also, you can put code blocks inside lists, can't you?
oh, it's rene's post
 
12:57 PM
@AndrasDeak comments like this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/323081/…
rather than adding a
 
@AndrasDeak I edited that
is it clearer?
 
@Tunaki Yup, thanks. And I edited the block comment formatting, please revert if it's off somehow
 
> set parameters. I've been at the software
 
@Tunaki self-promotion allright, but at least it shows affiliation
 
1:09 PM
Not sure.
Damn, It's hard to stay on SO w/o flags.
Bye.
 
Cya o/ I'm on NATO.
 
1:32 PM
@Kyll Gone.
 
JAL
2:16 PM
hey all
 
Hiya
 
Plop JAL
Holee
Just noticed the MSO post
Why is there no pin? @gunr
 
@MadaraUchiha Definitely... :)
 
there was but we decided to remove it @Kyll
 
@Tunaki Why?
And should I remove my star then?
 
2:18 PM
too much upvoting from the room.
 
@Kyll yes, please.
 
@rene Done, it seems
 
Magic! ;)
 
I'm not sure I get this reasoning:P
not that it matters
 
@rene RO powahs
 
2:21 PM
The difference between magic and science is a lack of "plop"
 
Nothing really matters, anyone can see
 
@gunr2171 Are you saying rene uses Plop?
 
I'm saying The Plop uses rene
 
Well, meh. Maybe next time post it after an hour or so, so that it doesn't start with half a dozen upvotes or something
 
yeah, after all we agree with the post
so it's OK to upvote...
 
2:24 PM
@Kyll yeah, my bad on that one
 
@AndrasDeak sure, but I'm more interested in votes and feedback from non-regulars.
 
@AndrasDeak Yeah but I get why it can feel a bit artificial if as soon as someone posts a Meta they announce it in the room and everyone goes checking / voting. That's a lot of bonus attention other Meta posts don't get, and it can feel like mobbing.
Also what rene said.
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version c71d6d08 on master, running for 2 days, 20 hours, 29 minutes, and 4 seconds (tracking latency 2572ms).
 
oh, so you linked directly to the room on the meta post, so expect to see a few people waltz in here today
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2:27 PM
@gunr2171 I prefer the chachacha, as the waltz is too slow for my taste
 
Plop people!
 
Conga is more appropriate, seeing we like trains so much.
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@Shubhank I'd say "no code" more than "too broad"
 
true, but showing closed as no code would have pissed the OP :p
 
too_broad extends gimme_teh_codez
 
and asking for code is just asking for trouble
 
2:32 PM
@Shubhank how so? Do you think that reason is not appropriate?
 
@Tuna @gunr @rene @Sam Should there be a "Do not link to your own Meta posts during the first few hours of their existence" rule in FAQ to avoid collusive voting?
 
too broad would guide him to ask a specific question. if he asks a specific question, would have happily asked for code. asking for code at this point is him simply dumping code all over the question
 
Sam
@Kyll Sounds like a possible candidate for the next room meeting?
 
@Kyll no. Really the only times we want this sort of restriction is when the RO's are making a meta post about the room. The RO's will handle that.
 
`too_broad extends gimme_teh_codez`
`SOCVR implements close_action`
`ppl extends finger_of_choice`
 
2:36 PM
Mh, k. So if I make for example a BR I can link it here immediately for review / typo hunt?
 
because on meta posts where we talk about ourselves, massive upvotes in the first 3 minutes doesn't help our case that we are not a voting ring
 
aww, why is my markdown not working
ruined c:(
 
@MacroMan no markdown on multilined messages
 
@MacroMan chat markdown doesn't work on multi-line comments
 
Sam
2:36 PM
too_broad extends gimme_teh_codez
SOCVR implements close_action
ppl extends finger_of_choice
 
@MacroMan Use 4 spaces, formatting is quite bonked on multi-line messages
... rofl.
 
so much redundancy
 
Sam
What Kyll said.
 
seems I won the ninja match
 
Hey, I was the only one to provide an actual explanation and solution
 
2:37 PM
it's gimme_teh_codez extends too_broad
 
my eyes are burning with the `@` signs!!!

me gusta :)
oh ffs I already forgot what I was told
 
-1 not enough poetry
 
my eyes, my eyes.
they see the lies, they see the lies.
I like fries.

something something unicorns
3
 
David would be proud.
 
I try.
 
2:40 PM
<insert Yoda quote>
 
Dammit now everything I say is rhyming in my head
 
sounds like you should go to bed
 
before he ends up dead?
 
or get help from your friend Ed
 
Writing an answer to meta.stackoverflow.com/q/323121/1849664, @rene which extra moderator workload?
 
Sam
2:42 PM
@MacroMan Should've said: Dammit now everything I said is rhyming in my head
 
I fed Ed some Lead bread - now he's dead
 
@Sam Ramming the dread into which I tread?
Not sure it makes any sense.
Prooobably doesn't.
 
@Kyll perhaps sit on the fence
 
Sam
Yeah... not really.
 
@Undo I was thinking about the flags that might be raised, for example for comment clean-up? And the mods are needed for the meta tagging but I assume that will not be the burden
 
2:43 PM
you seem tense
 
morning
 
@rene Yeah, okay.
 
Sam
mroning
 
mroning
 
dang it
 
2:44 PM
mroning
 
mroning ryan
 
mronning
 
mroning
 
@ryanyuyu YOU CHANGE THAT BACK AND TAKE YOUR MISTAKE WITH GRACE!
:P
 
@gunr2171 But there's no grace period in chat
 
2:45 PM
there is, 2 minutes
 
@Kyll Need another line?
 
@Mogsdad Depends. Of what?
 
@gunr2171 ha. Let's just say I'm influential
 
I need a "go to portuguese SO" auto comment
 
And that does get store somewhere in the transcript anyway right?
 
2:46 PM
@Kyll 2 min... grace period.
 
@Mogsdad Oooh. cough That's the red line
 
@ryanyuyu Yes, your typos are recorded and printed to be hanged on a wall-of-fame.
 
@Tunaki you mean wall-of-fmae?
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@Kyll Wait, who said there was no grace period? Checks transcript.
 
hha
 
2:47 PM
@Tunaki awesome. I'm glad they get so much attention.
 
@Tunaki "hanged", for instance, is a typo.
 
Well, since French suck at English, it doesn't count!
 
I've heard of using "hanged" mainly for executions by hanging.
 
Starts a new repo beside SOCVR poetry.
@ryanyuyu ...and the French don't do that. Makes sense!
 
I saw the latest burnination meta post. I'm excited to see how meta reacts to the process.
 
2:52 PM
@ryanyuyu by upvoting apparently.
 
And 4 downvotes. Just because.
 
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
yo
 
Sam
Hiya
 
2:58 PM
@Kyll You've filed the bug-report?
Hiya all
 
Hi @AshishAhujaツ. I see you've changed back to your usual username.
 
cough with help of a mod cough
 
@AshishAhujaツ Not yet, will do tonight
 
@Tunaki I saw that typo. Join me on the wall of fmae.
 
I'm first there, you need to improve your typos.
 
3:01 PM
@ryanyuyu Changed it two days back
 
Ah. I'm lazy on weekends so I didn't notice.
 
embrace your typos - even if it was because you were eating crisps at the same time and it made your finger slip onto the wrong key.

Which totally _never_ happens. Note even once. Ever.
oh ffs, I really tried not to make a typo in that one too! :(
 
missing space looks like it.
 
I think I checked everything up until the last bit and thought I was good so just stopped reading what my fingers were typing out.
I put it down to my brain operating faster than my fingers and they try to keep up
a.k.a. "Undefined behavior"
 
Your brain needs a better branch predictor to streamline that process.
 
3:11 PM
or perhaps I should sort all the keys on my keyboard first
an arrayboard
no wait, arrays don't have keys
 
a dictionary board?
a not-a-keyboard board. That will do
 
@NobodyNada Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Mostly, I'm going to create the bot after some time, so I think you can continue yours. But yeah, I'll like to see a look at the code if it's possible. That'll tell me where to start.
I'll try to get up early tomorrow so that I can have a chat with you. Thanks
 
(slow day today)
 
@MacroMan Whose values are keys?
 
3:13 PM
@ryanyuyu The answer to that question is
 
In a way, a Dvorak layout is custom sorted by frequency of letters
 
Runtime Error: Out of stack space
 
@Tunaki Can you check this?
 
reading
aw god
I found another one, perfect dupe @SotiriosDelimanolis
 
Damn, how'd you find that?
 
3:19 PM
[java] code:"private String private;"
 
in the search bar
 
I was trying to find compilation error text
<identifier> expected
 
code makes a search inside code itself, otherwise it doesn't.
bah
I'm not on Java since the last couple of days, a lot of work to do :)
 
@AshishAhujaツ I won't be around this evening Pacific time, maybe tomorrow. I'll try to put the code on Github or something sometime soon.
 
3:30 PM
@NobodyNada np. You can put it whenever you want.
BTW, Morning
@NobodyNada So you plan on just making this framework, or you're actually going to make this into a bot which does something?
 
@Tunaki do you know groovy?
 
a bit yes
 
can you split a command onto multiple lines in your file?
I'll give you an example in the testing facility
 
3:50 PM
@AshishAhujaツ well, I planned on making it useful if I can think of something for it to do. I'm bad at that.
 
@NobodyNada Okay. So the code is written in Windows or Linux?
Wow. Even Microsoft has started spamming SE sites! webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/1062/…
 
^ NAA
well, okay maybe it could be
but I doubt it
 
VLQ at best
 
edited out the profanity
 
I've flagged for VLQ anyway
I wouldn't say it's technically offensive - obviously it has had a profanity but it wasn't at someone, just misunderstood English I think
I'm not sure what the definition of 'technically' offensive is either before anyone asks
it just felt right
 
4:03 PM
I've edited it out properly. Now looks like a better answer.
 
notice somethig
somethig
to the hall-of-fmae for you @AshishAhujaツ !!
 
@MacroMan Why?
 
@AshishAhujaツ I recall that as the typo wasn't actually a result of your edit
so no hall-of-fmae for you after all
 
I don't get the joke. Is there something I'm missing?
 
1 hour ago, by Macro Man
@Tunaki you mean wall-of-fmae?
not sure if you were about before
 
4:06 PM
looks like we have another meme in the room
 
(was in response to that)
wait, what
1 hour ago, by Tunaki
@ryanyuyu Yes, your typos are recorded and printed to be hanged on a wall-of-fame.
 
@MacroMan Okay. So now you have a meme created by you :)
 
@AshishAhujaツ I don't know if that's a good thing. And at this point I'm too afraid to ask...
 
Looks like another one-box competition
@MacroMan It's always good. And you asked the question by saying that you're too afraid to ask. Clever!
 
In that case - I'll take it!
It's my first day. I'm new here (to SOCVR, not SO - obvs) so don't want to rock the boat so to speak :)
I'm wearing a goofy hat and a backpack carrying a packed lunch too if that helps with the 'being-new' look
 
4:13 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Linux. I wrote it on my Mac, but it doesn't use anything Mac specific, but it uses pthreads, poll (from unistd), and libCURL.
 
@MacroMan All we do in this room is rock boats and write bots :-)
 
@NobodyNada Okay. Even I'm on linux
 
@TylerH I'd love to write a bot - I wouldn't even know where to start
even GitHub scares me
I stay in my cosy VBA/VBS/VB corner of the world playing with Excel :)
 
@Yvette I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Git is scary indeed.
 
user3956566
4:16 PM
bloody stalker Closey
 
It can mess up with your head.
 
@Tunaki I tried to use it once for an open-source add-in I was developing with a couple of other people but it quickly became more of a hindrance (presumably because I don't know what I'm doing)
 
user3956566
we need some more people to help run through these chat.stackoverflow.com/…
 
yup, I'm going through it, there are a lot
 
user3956566
yes
 
user3956566
4:23 PM
I'm wading my way through, but without some more people they are going to sit there
 
user3956566
Two people I spoke to were happy to reduce the number they're requesting :D
 
user3956566
don't tell rene
 
he already knows
 
I'll add to a few now
 
blame the cameras
 
user3956566
4:24 PM
hehe
 
@MacroMan I feel your pain ;-). I'm currently working on VBA stuff these days
in Excel
 
WHAT
There is a file finder on GitHub?
How did I do that
 
user3956566
well I'm done. I must say there's s bunch of pretty terrible questions on the first page alone
 
@TylerH Have you seen the VBA Lounge ?
It's only a couple of days old and often vacant - but handy if you want to discuss it in general or have a chat about anything, bounce ideas etc.
I <3 VBA
 
P|op
 
4:32 PM
Plop @PhMgBr
Long time no see
 
in The Periodic Table on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by PhMgBr
Dang, I've only been away for less than a week (?) and I feel totally alienated.
 
@PhMgBr I had the same when I went on a holiday
 
The molecule is back!
@PhMgBr Hiya o/
 
@MacroMan nope, I've only really spent time here and in the HTML/CSS room
 
@Tunaki \o
 
4:37 PM
Night
 
G'night
 
Sam
Cya
 
user3956566
night
 
Sam
@PhMgBr Hiya
 
user3956566
seriously there's this guy, he posts an answer to his own question, it's saying the same thing as two of the previous answers, it's like wtf "I've worked it out..." he didn't work it out, it's posted there, twice!
 
4:43 PM
When are you going to build your SO rep @PhMgBr? :)
 
When TeX questions start to get on-topic.
Or when I finally get this Konkur done and get some free time to self-learn python.
 
why python...
 
that's where the rep is at ;)
 
@Tunaki It's the most related programming language to what I could or couldn't be doing.
 

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