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5:20 PM
If a question asks "what does this code mean in language A", and then it turns out that this language is actually B, should this question be retagged to language B? See stackoverflow.com/q/37259185/3853934 for example.
 
@Gothdo I would say so, yes. Unless it is C/C++ ...
 
grrrrrr There is no C/C++
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis hammered before I did
 
user3956566
well hello @rene we meet again :D
 
Yeah, thank you.
 
user3956566
5:33 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis your welcome :D
 
user3956566
hehehe
 
the answers there................
 
I have to slow down on my hammering, I see a bad question that doesn't explain the issue and I close right away if it's tangentially related
 
@NathanOliver you made my point ...
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis The problem is that you gotta be fast to close before someone sneaks in and answers...
 
5:34 PM
That too
What was that request recently on meta to force a pause before being able to submit answers? That was smart.
 
@rene I did? What I said was not pointless?
 
@Yvette nice meeting you
@NathanOliver whistles
 
@rene It was just really funny as right after you said that I found this which is clearly C++ but was tagged with C and C++
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis There are some requests for this yes. Was never implemented though...
 
Good morning!
 
5:38 PM
@NathanOliver maybe we all learned now that we shouldn't name something that looks like it is next better version: C -> C++, Java -> JavaScript, VB -> VBA
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis There was a new one just the other day that asked for flagging as a known dupe and giving us time to actually find the dupe and locking out thew answers in that time window. Is that the one you are talking about?
@rene lol. JS > Java.
 
Sam
@NobodyNada Morning!
 
@NobodyNada Morning
 
ninja'd
 
5:56 PM
Hi @NathanMarotta
 
@NathanOliver No, I hadn't seen that one. I think I prefer the general wait time.
 
OK. Just wasn't sure which flavor FR you were referring to.
 
6:43 PM
-_- someone just sent me a PDF asking for it to be converted to PowerPoint... how do these peoples brains work
 
@TylerH with some itext and poi, you are home free :D
 
I mean, it's not a hard thing to do
I just wonder why they need that conversion
also I'm pretty sure they started out with PPT in the first place
so I wonder how it became a PDF
 
@TylerH magic?
 
some people are really disturbingly active on SO
I'm over here not at 10k yet after 2.5 years, and then there's folks getting ~5k rep in a month
btw @NathanOliver meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/323099/… "ran" should be "run"
(and I had the same question)
 
@TylerH Jeeped springs to mind, think he's at about 45k now after being here for about a year. Ridiculous amount of flags/edits/votes too.
 
6:53 PM
Ah yes. To late now :(.
 
He really knows his stuff though. Easy to see how he gets all teh repz
 
@MacroMan Sure, I'm not begrudging folks that fast rep :-P Well, okay maybe some users who repwhore through duplicate CSS questions :-D
Jon Snow Skeet earns like 80k rep a year.
 
@TylerH feel your pain also (previous post) - I got asked in work the other day to write a report out of our payroll system. I asked for a spec and got "It should summarise data in graphs and things that make sense to management."
".... So you want a dashboard, not a report?"
 
No. They want a report that looks like a dashboard ;)
 
"no, a report - but not just full of numbers like the matrix. It needs to make sense with proper data analysis"
*le sigh*
-_-
@NathanOliver yes! Maybe you should work at our place haha
 
6:59 PM
:) I get the same types of request here. We do 3 different reports here, direct emails of sql ran against the DB, Crystal Reports and dashboards.
 
dang mods stealing our flags
 
@MacroMan lol "summarize data in graphs and things"
OK boss
@NathanOliver run
 
run, ran, have/were/did run
 
7:07 PM
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
yes yes I know love
 
direct emails of sql run against a DB?
 
@NathanOliver yes
 
OK. I r learn English gooder
 
you only say "ran" when you are talking about someone/something that did the running it/them self
 
7:09 PM
Ah
 
e.g. "The computer booted up, then the email server ran the sql reports against the DB"
 
@NathanOliver they terk er flergs!
 
you can test it by adding an extra word: "direct emails of sql are run against the DB"
 
@gunr2171 Swedish chef?
 
It would be easier to tell/intuit if we had a word like "runned"
but we don't because English sucks
 
7:10 PM
:)
 
Darryl Weathers
 
Couldn't agree more
 
@gunr2171 That does not sound like a Swedish chef.
 
@gunr2171 lol
 
then again, haven't watched more than 10 episodes of South Park
 
7:11 PM
what? Blasphemy
 
inb4 rene kicks me
 
He sure has some strong legs for a flower
 
that's what roots are for
 
So in order for rene to kick you he would not be able to be deeply rooted in the room?
 
......yes?
 
7:14 PM
I'm not sure where this ends ...
 
sudo kick gunr
 
@rene right now sounds good
 
@gunr2171 right now is not a place
 
add to list of goals: get rich, buy island, name it right now.
 
Welcome to the island Right Now
Just to the north, we have the island "A Little Later", and to the south, you can just make out "Ten Minutes Ago"
 
7:17 PM
 
The Island is a great movie btw.
 
@gunr2171 'tis a business
 
@Tunaki The one with the "lottery"?
 
yeah
 
7:18 PM
meh
 
bah
 
bites the dust
2
 
lol
 
haha
 
7:19 PM
classy
 
bum bum bum
 
@PetterFriberg I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Attention. Undo just posted a question. We need some close votes.
I can't keep my magnesium shut
 
It's already closed and has 2 del votes.
 
Interesting observation Refreshes page
 
7:26 PM
wow, cool
if you enter street view of a location on Google Maps and then zoom out, it leaves you in isometric view
 
yes, that's not new :p
 
Petter Friberg passed a audit!
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
rene passed a audit!
 
@Tunaki I figured not but it's the first time I've seen it
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
@TylerH @NathanOliver "Ran" is past tense, "Run" is present or future tense.
you can test with "can"
 
7:34 PM
@MacroMan we already covered that :-P
 
I literally fell asleep so I'm late to the party. Just catching up :)
Because I was getting my daughter to sleep, not because Inwas being rude or ignorant.
I literally can't type anything today without a typo!
 
It's fine; the internet waits for no man
 
@MacroMan I can haz teh typos
 
rene passed a audit!
 
@MacroMan btw run is also the past participle of run
which is how it was being used in this case
 
7:41 PM
@Tunaki You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 33 minutes and 56 seconds, averaging to a review every 50 seconds.
rene passed a audit!
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 5 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 12 minutes and 44 seconds, averaging to a review every 19 seconds.
 
@Tunaki Do you mention anything to the editor/reviewer?
 
Lazy me
 
8:01 PM
Ok, I have been long enough here ... cya
 
bye
 
Only on Stack Overflow: in question How ... in C#? the second top answer says "use jQuery".
 
@Gothdo Upvoted
 
@Gothdo wat?
 
8:05 PM
lol
 
@gunr2171 My reaction was similar.
 
The question is about C#, I fail to see how a jQuery plugin is relevant. — BartoszKP Nov 30 '15 at 12:25
it's not even asp.net
 
And that answer has only 2 downvotes.
 
JAL
C#, javascript, same thing
 
On a scale of 1 to Even, I can't
3
 
8:09 PM
@NathanOliver Yes! yes you can! - to the wall of fmae with you!!
 
bed time cya
 
cya
 
cya
 
@TylerH I think I would rather learn assembly language than English
 
@Gothdo have you looked through the revision history for the question? Equally dumb.
#18 takes the cake
 
8:14 PM
> Removed language tag, we have answers for C#, JavaScript, PHP, etc... this is community wiki, let's make this question a destination for all those looking for date time differences in general... why are people trying to close this community wiki?
 
trying to contain rage
 
lol, question shouldn't be changed to match the answers; answers should be changed to match the question
 
i know...
I mean, why would someone give a PHP answer for a c# question?
 
@gunr2171 Some people just want to see the world PHP
 
user3956566
Booo
 
8:15 PM
:)
 
@gunr2171 Maybe because that poor person knows only PHP.
 
poor person
 
Revision #14 is also interesting, it was tagged with [twitter]
 
I won't get down into numbers, waiting for the Meta probably.
 
@Tunaki "being"? I've been doing it for decades!
 
8:20 PM
lol
 
I thought only rene was stalked.
 
+1 clever flower joke
 
That's where it stemmed from.
 
+1 clever follow up pun
 
As long as he can hold his head up.
 
8:21 PM
Mogs' on fire
 
-1 I didn't get it
 
user3956566
lol
 
If you want to know how many answers you made to posts that were subsequently closed as dupe, hit this SEDE.
 
hum, 5 for me
 
I have a grand total of 43, so ~3%.
 
8:23 PM
Cool. Two. And I closed both of them.
 
56 for me. Time to review them
 
:)
 
@NathanOliver oh wow
 
Sam
0 woot
 
@NathanOliver 5.4% that's pretty low still.
 
8:25 PM
5, 3 of them where closed by people in here :p
 
FYI, my new stalker has 13%
 
@Tunaki Maybe time to copy and paste his message on one of his own answers?
 
@Tunaki Yeah. I know some of them were just me not knowing there was a dupe. I try not to answer if I know there is a dupe somewhere nut like other said sometimes you just can't find em and it is easier to answer.
afk
 
I'll post a new question, "what is branch prediction?" so Nathan can answer it
 
JAL
@Tunaki glad to see you have a fan!
ha
 
8:27 PM
hahaha
 
@Thaillie Actually, that why they did it: I left the same comment on an answer of theirs few hours ago.
@gunr2171 Then you upvote it with all your puppets.
And the world shall rise anew.
 
all hail the fake internet points!
 
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
JAL
This is my highest-scoring dupe, closed as a dupe of a canonical Q and A pair also by me: stackoverflow.com/a/36156859/2415822
you can have my rep when you rip it from my fat, sweaty hands Stack Exchange
 
Mogsdad passed a audit!
 
JAL
8:31 PM
> We both posted at approximately the same time. This isn't a "rocket science" question.
lol
 
@Tunaki I have 6%.
 
I wonder what's the average on SO.
Now I need to learn how to make a graph out of that...
 
@Tunaki SEDE will only make a line graph
but you can download the data and use excel/other to make a scatter graph
 
JAL
and we all know what happens with a line graph
 
So you couldn't make a graph of the (count of users) vs (% of answers to dupes)? (directly in SEDE)
 
8:41 PM
actually, you probably want to group by %, so X axis would be % (whole number), and Y would be count of people with that average
 
@Tunaki Have you tried running it for a user with a lot of answers? I run it for a user with 11k answers a few minutes ago and I still didn't get results.
> Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding.
 
ah no I didn't
maybe it can be optimized :p my SQL could be better
 
That's probably because it makes 2 subqueries for each question, so for 11k it would be 22k queries.
 
yeah 1 for "have I answered" and 1 for "is it a dupe"
 
8:50 PM
where are the descriptions for LinkTypeId?
 
JAL
hey undo! o/
 
PostLink table?
3 is dupe for sure
 
@JAL oy
 
where is the list that says what 3 is?
 
JAL
Undo while you're here, any idea what's going on with the rep changes here (meta)? I put the user in question's id in a mod flag
 
8:52 PM
@gunr2171 No idea, but it is here meta.stackexchange.com/a/2678
 
JAL
Then a mod answered my question but deleted their answer
 
Probably the only posts that existed were removed for that day - however, the score/votes still remain because it was done outside the 60 days for them to be automatically retracted. — Jon Clements ♦ 2 days ago
 
hum, wrong ping :)
 
JAL
but that's not the case? at least I'm seeing different mods say different things
 
oh, oops
You're not a mod, so you can't see that.
Unupvote on a now-deleted post.
 
JAL
8:53 PM
Very interesting, thanks! Can I use that image in an answer or would you like to provide an official answer?
 
The -2 is from a suggested edit on a post that got deleted.
 
JAL
I don't see -2, only +10 and -10
(i don't think)
 
@JAL oh, I was looking at the -2 above the -10. The +10 is from the upvote on the same now-deleted post the -10 was on.
 
JAL
but that dec 26th post probably corresponds to the october 19th +10
yep got it
thanks!
 
More optimized version -- I got rid of all subqueries and turned them into joins.
 
8:55 PM
np :)
 
nice!
 
JAL
@Undo May I self-answer using your image?
 
sure
@Gothdo orders of magnitude faster.
 
JAL
great thanks
 
@Gothdo yeah thanks
 
8:57 PM
Now I had to wait only about 3 seconds for results for that user with 11k answers.
 
INNER JOIN -> much faster, to remember
 
I always see things like a.Id and FROM Posts q (like in the query above) but I've never understood what a/q are or how they're defined and I don't even know how to search for them with my GoogleFu
 
@tunaki Isn't a JOIN by default INNER JOIN?
 
If anyone has a link I would be their friend.
 
@Gothdo yes it is, (you used JOIN but I implcitly read INNER JOIN because it's the same)
 
8:59 PM
back
 
fro... no I won't do it.
 
do it
 
tempting
 
@MacroMan They're labels
You could put "fluffledorf" in there with the same effect.
 
Does SEDE include deleted posts?
 
9:03 PM
PostWithDeleted does
 
@Gothdo kinda
It has minimal information about them
 
In this question -- is there one deleted and one non-deleted answer by T.J. Crowder? (I'm <10k)
 
No deleted answers there
 
So why does the query show that question twice in the results?
 
@Gothdo probably because it is marked as dupe of 2 questions
 
9:05 PM
^ that
 
@Undo Cheers - I'll go do some research :)
 
So you made your own distinct query? ;)
 
@Gothdo Be careful also when the post was closed as dupe multiple times (like closed + reopened + closed)
I think you'll count those twice.
 
Don't think so with that DISTINCT
I can't type
 
9:08 PM
ah maybe so
 
So top 1 JavaScript answerer has 4.2%.
 
sounds all right
 
9:20 PM
and now I'm trying to make it work to group by the percentage for each user and count users...
commented
 
@Serlite I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
sigh Divide by zero error encountered.
 
9:37 PM
Serlite passed a audit!
 
^ graph of (count of users) vs (% of answered dupes) for users > 3k
 
@Tunaki someone has 100%? xD
 
Apparently
 
interesting shape
3.5% here
 
Now let's cut off and focus on 0 to 10%. data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/486543#graph
 
9:43 PM
@Tunaki Can the Y be Log?
 
What purpose serves this plot?
 
Fun.
 
most of the ones I dupe-answered were very early in my SO career, before I knew there'd be a dupe around for the specific question
@Tunaki wait, what?! We hate fun right?
 
I have one :|
oops
 
ops
Ah yes, the guy that has 100% only has 1 answer massively upvoted.... and closed as dupe :D
 
9:54 PM
waffles
 
that's not really the same shape
 
afk
 
@gunr2171 compare to this one where I restricted to 0.1 and 10
 
bedtime - laters y'all o/
 
Sam
10:02 PM
Cya
 
10:18 PM
night o/
 
Sam
Night o/
 
10:47 PM
Java peeps: are all these questions duplicates? (All 14 have received the same answer.)
 
@Mogsdad mod flag has been auto raised I take it?
 
@Mogsdad All undisclosed and as such technically spam too.
 
@Adriaan Would have happened on the exact duplicates, yes. I think Paul may have flagged one as well.
I'm only interested in what to do with the questions, atm.
They seem similar enough to me, but I don't know that particular tech, and can't judge which question(s) would be the best dupe targets.
 
Rob
11:08 PM
Morning all
 

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