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7:56 AM
@m0nhawk Lol nope, I worked for an hour or so and went to sleep :-)
 
 
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11:17 AM
@JonClements Hi from here :-)
Can you teach me how to make a team Community?
 
How to make it community like our other team?
 
The only way is to give the access link to everybody
if you note on the sopython community team we include the link in the description itself - however we keep the sopython separate
 
Yah, How to make a team like sopython-community? (Where anyone can join) :/
 
@BhargavRao look at stackoverflow.com/teams/50/sopython-community and where we did the "Join This Team"
 
11:24 AM
@JonClements YIKES! You tricksters :D
Damn, who'd get such an idea
 
You can blame fizzy I think :p
 
Yeah, Fizzy gets all the good ideas
Also @Jon, I came up with a website for the room r-public.github.io :-)
 
cool - I like that you're taking RO seriously :p
 
Thanks :-)
Hope that this room will see more activity
 
Well - I know no R at all - but I'll hangout now and then :)
 
11:38 AM
Awesome, you can teach me as to How I can be a better RO. :)
Hi @beetroot o/
Hi @Arun o/
 
12:11 PM
Hi @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW o/
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao this is about R? I am out of my depth :D
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW A place for R beginners. You can see the room website in that corner ----->
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao see, persuading me already! :D
 
Lol... There is also a team page there -------->
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW hello trouble :p
 
12:16 PM
Lol :D
Hi @m0nhawk o/
 
@BhargavRao Hi!
 
user3956566
@JonClements I've been invited I know nothing, I see nothing :D
 
user3956566
I will go . *footsteps fading*
I'm actually in about 7 chat rooms I really do need to leave LOL
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW only 7!? Weakling - you should try my job :p
 
user3956566
@JonClements no, no thanks LOL
 
user3956566
12:28 PM
I can stretch it to RO of a couple of rooms, and the mod tasks like flagging voting, but an actual mod... No
 
heya @Ben
 
Hi @Roland o/
Lol @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Juggling between rooms?
 
Ben
Hi @JonClements
 
Hiya @Ben. How's the day going?
 
Ben
Yes, fine thanks
 
user3956566
12:40 PM
@BhargavRao yes!!
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW It's good thing you closed that aweful room. It's very existence was pissing me off greatly. I am surprised how anyone could think it is legal/good idea and why so many high reps were participating there.
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg I wanted to close it a short while ago and people wanted it open.. so I relented.. after today's terrible mess on meta, I went in and closed it down without consulting anyone!
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg I wish you had told me earlier!!
 
Though it not worth it to start a war about it. I figured it will piss off some people if I say my thoughts
 
@DavidArenburg I'll have to admit some fault - I was aware of the room - as long as it was kept between certain members and didn't actively cause harm/behaviour contrary to the site's policies - I let it slide for a while
 
user3956566
12:53 PM
@DavidArenburg if people are not rude, I am open to any discussion. Even when they start off rude I'm ok.. It's if they cannot discuss something without continually becoming histrionic I can't handle that
 
user3956566
@JonClements I'm glad I closed it, I was really not happy with it.. It was a joke thing, that actually took off. So it was 100% my fault.
 
@DavidArenburg I was the RO of the room. I have tried my best and kept all the links in the room to a minimum. There were no answer links there. Once a week we met to tell how much rep we had. That's the only thing that we did there. Apart from that we told each other our Personal life stories.
 
@BhargavRao "Personal life stories" hey? Now I'm intrigued and will have to read the transcript later :)
 
user3956566
@JonClements it's really not that interesting, but feel free. :D
 
@JonClements TL;DR About the paint color of my room, Tunaki's friend and MsYvette's children :D
 
12:57 PM
I feel that whole rep thing is getting out of hand too often; rep whoring, FGITW, socket puppets, bounty trading, etc. But I guess this is the main stimulator for that site keep going
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg totally agree and I need to get working on the chat bot to find duplicates. (If I spent less time chatting I really probably would have time!)
 
user3956566
and work place voting rings.
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg You saw my meta answer today?
 
@DavidArenburg there is a "gamification" system that the SE sites work on - in fact it's quite nice - seeing your "rep" go up in appreciation of something you've done/getting badges for effort - it's a way of kind of realising you're not answering into the void.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW yes
@BhargavRao I saw them. But these aren't the original rules
 
1:00 PM
It just happens that a side effect is that some people view rep points as more important than the quality of their content and contributions and try to "game" the system.
 
user3956566
@JonClements totallym which is why the people who circumvent those rules make it an unfair game
 
@JonClements I agree, like I said the gamifacation part is pretty much the main thing keeps this site going.
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg what did you think?
 
@JonClements I can still access the room. o_O
 
no matter what other people say
 
1:01 PM
Gamification keeps going any stuff.
Except those, for which you get money.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Their accounts generally don't last very long :)
 
@DavidArenburg They were the original rules pinned in the room :/
 
user3956566
@JonClements good
 
@BhargavRao If you still have a direct link yeah... otherwise, it's not listed...
 
@JonClements Then pleas delete this message chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/29200149#29200149
 
1:03 PM
done
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I think it's a good thing you posted that. You've got an upvote from me
 
@JonClements Thanks. I will change the permissions of the webpage so that it's lost forever. :-)
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg thanks.. It's hard to speak out against friends and a room I love.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW we all learn from our mistakes
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW We quite often invalidate votes from workplaces - it's a judgement call between blatant gaming and just innocent voting between colleagues. The system will correct anything completely out of the norm, but since no automation is perfect, that's still why it requires real people to look into things and make their judgement on appropriate actions.
 
1:06 PM
Done that too. Can anyone try to view this goo.gl/mWiM6A
 
@BhargavRao 404
 
And many times something small that you start, gets very quickly out of hand due to many users that you can't really control their behaviour
 
Ah Nice. So that's the end of it.
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg exactly group behaviour
 
user3956566
people behave differently in groups
 
user3956566
1:08 PM
@JonClements I make custom flags if I suspect there's linked accounts.. and by linked I mean the same user, or friend voting
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW which is why I try to work closely with the SOCVR room to make sure it doesn't desolve into mob mentality :)
 
user3956566
@JonClements I think I'd be a good RO there.
 
user3956566
I can be sensible and keep a level head.
 
Hum. Hiya o/
 
Anyway - what's happened has happened - let's look to the future, learn from the past and not reminisce too much about it.
 
1:10 PM
@Tunaki From here. chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/29199878#29199878 The issue is resolved, But Wanted to inform you also.
Ah Fine. ---- </end of convo>
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Not my place to comment. That's for the existing ROs to decide.
 
What did I fall into?
 
user3956566
@JonClements it's important to be able to move on from things quickly
 
user3956566
@Tunaki black hole
 
Let's move on.
What do you guys think of R in general?
16 hours ago, by Bhargav Rao
R public Team page, Click here for free cookies
 
1:12 PM
I think I've only ever appointed one RO being a mod :p
@BhargavRao well - does R have "scooby snacks"?
 
yes, appointing ROs in someone others room, is almost an abuse of power
 
user3956566
@JonClements oh I wasn't asking you!! omg no.. I mentioned it earlier to rene
 
It's good thing @joran was mature enough
 
We have cookies only... But we can all bite @DavidArenburg to make us some scooby snack packages
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg it's good to talk to you, I don't often cross paths with you on the site.
 
1:14 PM
@BhargavRao Never used it. I don't like languages having a single letter name.
like C. Hard to google.
 
@Tunaki What the R?
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW thanks, I hang around in SO CVR once in a while
 
@DavidArenburg That's true. In this case I figured it was beneficial to the room itself.
 
@DavidArenburg Jon's only appointee is someone here :/
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg yeh I've talked to you before,
 
1:16 PM
@JonClements yeah, I think you were right on that call
 
user3956566
not sure if it was on meta in the comments maybe
 
@BhargavRao yes, we know :)
 
@DavidArenburg I'm definitely right - else I wouldn't have taken the action :p
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW it was in the CV room, when I've asked for an additional opinion on some matter
 
user3956566
@DavidArenburg ah k, you have a good memory
 
1:17 PM
I want to break rule #4. Is it allowed?
 
user3956566
whenever I talk to someone in chat or in comments I always check their profile
 
Rule #6 can be broken.
afk for 2 mins, need to turn on lights. :/
 
You need 2 minutes to turn on the lights?
 
@Tunaki yeah... I was just pondering that sentence myself :p
 
user3956566
maybe he lives in a big house or he left the lights on in his car. Or he is a burglar chatting on a phone and needs to go back to the house he just robbed and turn off the lights
 
1:19 PM
@DavidArenburg anyway... I've known @BhargavRao for a while in the Python room and I know he's got the passion and competency to make this room work - time will tell I guess :p
 
Which room? This R one?
 
user3956566
@JonClements he's a lovely guy, level headed.
 
user3956566
ok I gotta do some work.. nice to chat!
 
@JonClements yes, at least no one can blame him from not trying I guess
 
1:22 PM
How's the GMT room going - haven't popped by there in ages
 
it lives I guess
You always welcome there :)
 
Thank you - I'll make an effort at some point to come say hello :)
 
just don't make @BhargavRao a RO there please :)
 
haha - I don't "interfere" in rooms unless necessary
 
And back.
 
1:29 PM
wb
 
That wasn't 2 minutes.
 
@Tunaki Lol, I had to make coffee also :)
 
This wasn't specified.
 
Unacceptable.
 
1:30 PM
Yeah.
@Tunaki UnspecifiedExceptionError
 
So now, you're drinking coffee with your lights turned on :)
 
Yep.
@DavidArenburg Don't worry, the room will see activity. I can promise ya that :D
I am planning a few other stuff to get more useRs.
 
Ok, looking forward
 
I'm only here for the cookies.
 
@David You should also help. :-)
@Tunaki Hey did you get them? They were in that corner ------>
 
1:34 PM
I started a whole discussion here, haven't I?
 
Still looking.
I think they moved.
 
Nah, they are still there
 
btw, this room has a propose of helping R new comers (IIRC), not to to be a chit-chat room. Hence, I'm not sure how to both bring relevant users and keep it on topic
 
@DavidArenburg Yeah, that is the problem.
But my plan of action is to get a few users speak here first.
That'll bump the room to the first page.
 
unless this will be sometype of a mishmash like the Python room
which is also fine I guess
 
1:39 PM
Python room's success story is different.
 
@BhargavRao and that took 3 years
 
Yep. And today it stands out as the largest community on Stack Overflow stackoverflow.com/teams?sort=members
:D
 
and there are lots of mods there too
 
We have Jon here.
 
which keeps it leved compared to that lame Longue<C++>, PHP rooms or similar
when a room gets too big, it gets out of hand pretty qickly
 
1:43 PM
Nothing gets outta hand if you can manage them properly.
 
usually you need to be a mod for that
I remember the wars in the Longue room
and yesterday, only a mod like shog could handle that situation properly
 
Python chat was managed beautifully by Jon and his team even before they became mods.
Level headed users and knowledgeable ROs are what we need.
 
I have to admit, Shog did a very good job yesterday.
 
yeah, shog is awesome
I admire that guy
 
Once the room gets enough traffic, I will expand the RO team. That'll keep the room in control.
I added @Jaap for the reason that he is half a world across and he can be here when I am not.
Hi @Jaap o/
 
1:49 PM
You should add Roman as is he is always here and always been here, has experience as RO (in the R room) and generally a very leveled guy
 
I like Roman a lot. He was my first choice. I guess I need to ask him if he's ready.
 
@RomanLuštrik I have added you as a RO. Please inform me if you dis-agree. Thanks
Only 4 guys have taken my free cookies :/
 
I don't believe/understand that whole SO teams concept
 
Hi @BenBolker o/
 
1:52 PM
@BhargavRao not clear what the free cookies are.
I'm an experienced R user and willing to hang out here from time to time, although I have to admit that it may be just the one more channel that's too much for me ...
 
@BenBolker Thanks a lot for joining us. Feel free to hep new users when ever you are free. :)
 
OK
PS can you explain the cookies? (I'm a settled academic, don't really need more SO rep, if that's what they're intended for -- but I do like hats :-) )
 
I really hope there is no rep involved in "cookies" definition
 
@BhargavRao hi!
 
@BenBolker Haha, Cookies and Waffles are just for fun.
The link there takes you to the R-public teams page where you can join.
@DavidArenburg Nope, Not at all. This is the screengrab of the page
 
1:59 PM
 
@BhargavRao I know where the page leads too, I was referring to the possible reward for joining
@BenBolker yes, an awekord thing IMO too
 
The cookies reward you
"You are on the de-facto Official R page"
 
now that I've read the page it makes a little more sense. I may wait a bit though.
 
Will be back in a few minutes. Received a call from a friend. Ciao
 
2:26 PM
@BenBolker Sure. Take your own time. :-)
Hi @Roland o/
 
3:09 PM
Hi @joran o/
Hi @alistaire o/
 
3:39 PM
Hi @mtoto o/
 
@BhargavRao Sure, thanks.
 
@RomanLuštrik Welcome to ROship :-)
Here is the team page, if you interested to join stackoverflow.com/teams/253/r-public
Will brb, gotta prepare something to eat :)
 
@BhargavRao Greetings!
 
@joran Hiya o/
I created a team logo and a team page for the room stackoverflow.com/teams/253/r-public :-)
Afk for now.
 
@BhargavRao I saw, and joined. I hope you like the role I gave myself. ;)
 
3:45 PM
hello @BhargavRao
 
@joran Hah, That's nice.
@mtoto Hiya o/
BTW @joran Aren't you underage to join SO? You look like you are 5 to 6 yrs old :/
 
4:12 PM
.
 
4:39 PM
Hi @JoshO'Brien o/
 
4:57 PM
Hi @kush o/
 
@BhargavRao hi
 
@JoshO'Brien thanks, I was thinking there's one more package that can do what tcltk does, but couldn't think of the name.
 
5:15 PM
It's nice to see this room on the front page.
 
5:28 PM
@BhargavRao isn't this conversation (should a question be closed and if so how) more appropriate for the "R snark" (non-public) room?
 
@BenBolker Ah, Yeah.
Hmm, Funny that R room (106) does not show up in the move messages dialog. :/
Oh, I guess it's because I don't have write permissions there.
@RomanLuštrik Can you move those 3 messages above to the R room?
 
I don't see it either.
 
You guys gotta rename the R room to a larger name :D
 
"R" is a very ungrateful string to search for. :)
 
4 hours ago, by Tunaki
like C. Hard to google.
I'd move it to GMTs, but David will scold me :D
@Roman Why' don't we just trash it? ;)
 
5:41 PM
If it were only up to me, I would open it for public and shelve all other channels. :)
 
Lol.
2 rooms are a good policy for high traffic tags.
 
6:05 PM
@BhargavRao you can move such stuff to GMTs, or @RomanLuštrik could just post it there or in the main R room in the first place I guess...
 
@DavidArenburg Thanks for the permission. :-)
3 messages moved to GMTs
 
6:19 PM
Hi @nyozeka o/
 
Hi, just looking, new access here
 
Hi @PierreLafortune o/
@nyozeka Welcome to the room :-)
 
Hey @BhargavRao
 
Hi o/
 
6:46 PM
Hi @alistaire o/
 
7:29 PM
@Jaap Use [ask] in comments to auto link to the "How to Ask" page
 
@BhargavRao I know, but I only have to type 5 letters to get that complete comment ;-)
 
@Jaap You don't use the auto comment userscript?
 
@BhargavRao I'm using TextExpander (OSX) for all kinds of standard sentences :-)
 
Oh Ok. There is a userscript on StackApps to autocomplete all comments.
 
@BhargavRao do you have a link?
 
7:35 PM
Just a sec
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Q: AutoReviewComments - Pro-forma comments for SE

Benjol No more re-typing the same comments over and over! This script adds a little 'auto' link next to all comments boxes. When you click the link, you see a popup with 6 configurable auto-comments (canned responses), which you can easily click to insert. This script was inspired by answers to thi...

 
7:52 PM
thanx, looks usefull (but will probably keep using my own abbreviations ;-) )
 
Yep, comfort comes first.
Hi @AaronHall
Nice to see you here
 
@BhargavRao I get around
 
Nice. So I can hope to see you around :-)
Hi @baptiste o/
 
well I spend more time in the Whiteboard (Programmer's chat)
 
Ah, OK.
 
8:03 PM
Also, sometimes I'm in this room where I have a lot of Python feeds: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/81671/…
 
Nice to know that. I can join in there too :)
 
Yeah, I might make you a room owner if I catch you there.
 
9:02 PM
inb4 1hr later tag :P
Bye all. Let's meet tomo again.
 
 
1 hour later…
10:11 PM
@BhargavRao thanks, I had this installed at some point in the past but lost track of it when I upgraded OS at some point ...
 

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