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5:00 PM
ask on Stack Overflow :)
 
@GregorMcGregor Compilers barely can what do you expect from auxiliary tools :v
Sourcemaps work unless they don't
Which is more often ime
 
Hello. Bye...
25
 
@Morwenn Yeah, they kind of are. Fun place to hike (if you can put up with Philippine heat levels).
 
They mostly work nowadays
 
AAAAAAA
A
 
5:00 PM
lol
 
Hi all, how can I write to a StackExchange user from here?
 
@MartinJames WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
@MartinJames <3333333
 
Or can I send a private message?
 
No, no
 
5:01 PM
Not dead.
 
@MartinJames <3 <3
 
@halilpazarlama Just type @Bart /msg User Text (Bart is the nickname of our messaging bot)
 
@MartinJames Glad you're OK :)
 
@halilpazarlama You don't (at least, not from here)
 
@MartinJames Glad to hear it.
 
5:01 PM
OK, deader than Bartek...
 
Imagine a game where every single button press shares a screenshot on social media. Is it worth losing friends to complete the game?
 
The Lounge almost sent search parties.
 
but if they are not in the chat room, will they get a notification?
 
Lol
 
@MartinJames HE CAME BACK!
 
5:01 PM
Which part of 'no' is hard to understand
 
Hi @Martin how does it feel to be alive for the first time
 
@Miki /msg hey, can you please come to chat?
 
christ
 
Hey Martin
 
@GregorMcGregor I'll tell you if it happens.
 
5:02 PM
@halilpazarlama just leave
 
@halilpazarlama You forgot to ping bart mate
 
You got us scared
 
We were worried
 
We thought you joined ISIS
 
@MartinJames Dude, I called your club yesterday.
 
5:02 PM
We thought ISIS joined you. (To the ground.)
 
@MartinJames You went full Domagoj. Never go full Domagoj.
8
 
@AlexM. The Lounge will live on without me, (though zombified, obviously:).
 
Uh, when I test a sort for every permutation of an array, it's faster than the other ones. When I launch actual benchmarks, it's almost always slower, even for random data. Wtf...
 
On the bright side I got to play Sherlock Holmes all nite and I love detectove stories *
 
Anyway, good to know you're alright.
 
5:03 PM
Yeah!
 
Trap
 
Double fault
 
I mean yeap Danny auto correct
I hate phones fuck
 
@AlexM. Yes detectoves are quite interesting
 
5:04 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm fine. Sometimes, I just have to work:(
 
@MartinJames Do not let work get in the way of Lounge.
 
@MartinJames That’s awful. Sorry to hear.
 
Gawd, my name is such a UUID.
 
When something is not working when you think it should, it matters what you question. This affects how long you bang your head on the bricks.
 
5:05 PM
@LucDanton Yeah, it's a major bummer:((
 
Think of all the children in Uganda who can't chat in Lounge because < 20 rep.
4
 
hahaha
 
I question my involvement in this industry
 
@GregorMcGregor That's why I donate to vim
 
makes sense
 
5:06 PM
It goes to Uganda, man. And they build schools. Clearly an effort to get them some rep.
 
Wow, what an expressive UI...
 
What is with that background
 
What is the difference between std::array<std::string, 10> myarray; and std::array<std::vector<std::string>, 10> myarray; ?
 
inb4 we get questions tagged
What uganda about it
jfc why am I not sleeping yet
 
^^ :(((
 
5:08 PM
@underscore Just read it?
 
@underscore About 2
 
@underscore decltype(myarray) is different in these two cases
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes He hasn't reached the reading part of the tutorial
 
@underscore The difference is blatantly obvious if you just read it.
 
5:08 PM
Updated now @GregorMcGregor
 
Now it's 7.45724
No but really what is with that background
 
I mean why it's use vector ?
 
What's wrong with the background
 
@underscore make both and ask the decltype
 
@CatPlusPlus Some colorschemes are fucked up like that.
 
5:09 PM
shudder
 
It's only the splash that looks weird, so I don't care.
I almost never open a blank vim.
 
Usually they 'work' in one of {graphical,terminal} mode but not the other.
 
It's either a session or a file.
 
or a session file
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I can’t believe I’ve started using sessions so late. I think I must have read about them early on but put them aside for some reason, then never went back to it… until this month.
 
5:11 PM
>Segmentation fault in a massively recursive function
Because you have regular recursivity and massive recursivity you see
 
I don't use sessions
I just keep the thing open
 
@GregorMcGregor The latter is for webscale.
 
If it's even needed
 
@Jaden how can i make a 2d array though it?
 
>I have a function that calls itself a near infinite amount of times, but it does have an end.
near infinite but not quite
 
5:11 PM
They’re not must-haves, but I don’t really have a replacement for them.
 
With permanent undo there's not much incentive to keep things open
 
@underscore With std::botany.
 
@underscore I don't know, you're studying stuff I haven't really yet. glhf
 
Enough StackMassiveOverflow for today, good night
 
Persistent undo <3
 
5:12 PM
 
BEST FEATURE
 
Terrible background and i18n
0/10
 
@milleniumbug AAAAA LOCALIZED VERSION BURN IT
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh, right, that must be why I forgot about them. I’ve started opening tabs like crazy though and it’s a pain to reopen the following day etc.
 
What is with that text
 
5:13 PM
std::botany. what f
 
Guys, I need to shit, but my girlfriend has friends over and I don't want to pass through the room with the obvious intent to shit.
 
@Griwes good, good, let the butthurt flow through you :P
 
@LucDanton Yeah, I just use them to tabkeeping.
 
@ElimGarak Do the shit dance
 
5:14 PM
PERSISTENT UNDO IS THE AWESOME
 
@ElimGarak There's probably a Starbucks nearby. Just saying.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh yeah, I did try :args + :tab all and so on as an alternative but it hasn’t really stuck. I kinda have to lookup how it works here and then, plus there are edge cases sometimes.
 
PERSISTENT UNDO
 
Robot is persistently impressed
 
5:16 PM
Not seeing anybody is tiring.
 
@Morwenn What do you mean?
 
Hi @Martin
 
@milleniumbug pukes
 
@ElimGarak Nah, just realising how much I like the feature. Been using it for a long time now.
Let it be known that if your text editor doesn't have persistent undo, it sucks.
 
@ElimGarak I'm mentally tired of not going out and being alone for a few days in a row.
 
5:17 PM
@Morwenn I haven't been out socially since October of 2014.
 
@Morwenn That's the opposite of a problem
 
@AnalPhabet "VIM - Vi rozbudowany" made me laugh
 
'Vim' and 'Vir' are both very manly.
 
Maltretowany would be more apt
 
Vir Cotto is a character from the fictional Babylon 5 universe, played on screen by Stephen Furst. He is a Centauri male who was from a family of minor nobility, who would eventually become the Centauri Ambassador to Babylon 5, and then became the Emperor of the Centauri Republic in 2278. Vir Cotto plays a role similar to that of the Everyman character of morality plays, an ordinary person influenced by personifications of good and evil, struggling with moral choices. == Character historyEdit == === PersonalityEdit === In contrast to many of his fellow Centauri, who often appear to be a...
 
5:19 PM
@BartekBanachewicz topkek
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I had the classics in mind, but not that one.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...that's not the most manly photo they could've chosen...
 
@BartekBanachewicz Mistreated or something?
Molested
 
@Griwes Vir isn't very manly.
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
5:20 PM
Apt sucks
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes still there are more manly shots of that character. ;p
 
Maltretiran basically means molested/harassed/mistreated here.
 
@AnalPhabet How is being mentally tired not a problem?
 
@MartinJames YOU'RE BACK!!!
 
@Morwenn "not going out and being alone for a few days in a row" is not a problem
@ElimGarak yep
 
5:21 PM
Neeerds
 
@AnalPhabet You nerd :p
 
Street cat. Plus plus.
 
@AnalPhabet That’s what I keep telling the people in my cellar.
 
nice
 
@ElimGarak I thought I was a recluse...
 
5:22 PM
Londo, best character, though
No, scratch that
G'Kar best character.
 
@Mysticial All lies and calumny.
 
@TonyTheLion I am not complaining though, it's a conscious choice. I've removed myself from almost everyone except my significant other. I focus mostly on my work and pretty much the only social setting where I feel comfortable was and is the Lounge.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, scratch tha-- oh wait. Probably too soon.
(That was an eye joke. Probably very poor at that, though.)
 
Yeah, I didn't get it
 
5:25 PM
Now I do, but I don't see how I was supposed to get it without the hint.
 
I can use a gadt and a phantom type to mark statement as returning or nonreturning
 
you don’t see
 
I didn't C it either.
 
	std::array<std::vector<std::string, 2>, 10> myarray;
 
Oh fucking god
Hi @underscore
 
5:26 PM
I can use design patterns to mark statements as returning
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Scratching an eye out? Yeah, not terribly good, I admit.
 
2d vector array @BartekBanachewicz hi
 
There's a joke about pulling your eye out and seeing it from a different perspective somewhere here
 
@underscore let's move to the other room
 
but I can't really find it.
 
5:26 PM
@MartinJames So where were you? You had like half the lounge searching the obituaries in your area. It wasn't funny at all.
 
Fine
came
 
user1804599
!hello, worlD
 
@underscore Wow. You don't need much, huh?
 
need
 
5:28 PM
Using two should lower the sensitivity, though.
 
I need a good abstraction on top of keyboard, mouse and gamepads
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz why do you want to mark statements as such
 
@Mysticial Just tied up with stuff..
 
@MartinJames Who kidnapped you?
Literal Lounge strikes again.
 
@elyse because I need results from them to process further. Only applies to call and return
Oh wait
Call doesn't teturn
 
5:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus Player commands that the controllers emit and you handle?
 
A call returning is an expression
So only return then
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz are you interpreting an AST?
 
that applies mostly to presses and clicks though
 
Maybe I'll just give every device every button/axis supported
 
@elyse yes
 
5:30 PM
And ones that don't use them will just never report any activity
 
user1804599
Compile it to bytecode first, then interpret that. It's easier to maintain.
 
user1804599
And easier to optimise.
 
I don't want to do that.
I don't care about perf either
 
user1804599
-1
 
@MartinJames Next time, just log into your SO account once a week so we know that you're alive.
 
5:30 PM
can I play your game with a steering wheel and foot pedals
 
It's for learning purposes
 
Not usable enough
 
user1804599
Good luck with your pain, then.
 
OK, thanks.
 
rip barket
 
5:30 PM
@LucDanton Maybe? If I make axis mapping
Wouldn't be very comfortable though :v
 
GOTYAY
 
You just need 2 axes and few buttons so wheel + pedals + something would work
idk how many buttons these things have
 
I like specializing gamepads and utilizing the finer control of X360/XOne/PS4 controllers. Triggers and analog sticks really have a nice range.
 
so many buttons
so few axes
 
HOTAS would definitely have enough buttons
 
5:32 PM
does it happen to you that you want to fart really bad and every time you go to the bathroom there's someone there and can't do it comfy for fuck's sake
 
Just do it
 
but then you get home and unleash methane armageddon
 
At least you don't shart.
 
and it feels like you're reborn
 
ahhh, the flood of cppcon videos is in full swing
 
5:33 PM
@CatPlusPlus too scared lol I don't want anyone to know that I took a trip to the toilet just to fart
 
What happens in the toilet stays in the toilet
 
Idgi why you think evaling an ast directly is so hard
The instructions aren't that complicated
Not more than x86_64
 
Oooh, a new episode of Public Morals
 
irta public monads
 
user1804599
5:37 PM
> When equally qualified, preference is given to a woman or a candidate with a non-western background.
 
fuck that, there is no equally qualified ever
 
user1804599
Job description for the TV channel that shows anti-discrimination ads.
 
@elyse Unfortunately, this always seems to lead to something like: "...and you'd better find enough who are equally qualified that you have at least N% who fit our profile requirements within M months."
@CatPlusPlus Oh, no. Most of what happens in the toilet had better get flushed into the sewer system.
 
I got a new vacuum
 
I got a new fridge
 
user1804599
5:40 PM
eh, ordering shoes
 
user1804599
don't know if size 40.5 or 41.
 
can you vacuum with your fridge?
 
I should buy a new fridge soon
 
I rest my case
 
@elyse 40.75
 
5:41 PM
This one is fucking annoying
 
user1804599
they're the same kind of shoes as the ones I have right now, but a different brand
 
@elyse Are you ordering online or what
Just go and see if they fit
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus yes! :D
 
Who buys shoes online
 
user1804599
me
 
5:41 PM
@CatPlusPlus inb4 heels
 
Those numbers mean literally nothing
 
They're just maaaybe a reference to general area of the store you want to look at
 
Ell
@elyse 44
 
they said it was on a discount but I know they lie
they always lie
 
user1804599
5:41 PM
@Ell lol no, that's too large.
 
like ubishit
fuck ubishit
 
Ell
I just took back a pair of 42 shoes because they hurt my feet like hell
they felt fine walking up and down the isle once.
 
I leave you for one friggin week and already you start with the potatoes!
 
Heyy!!!
 
user1804599
5:43 PM
I can always return them within two weeks.
 
Ell
@elyse even if you wear them?
 
@elyse The potatoes?
 
user1804599
@Ell yes.
 
Ell
actually you gots more rights if it's on the innernet
 
it is very intuitive to use
I don't even need the manual
 
Ell
5:43 PM
@AlexM. boo! stand hoover best hoover
 
samsung must've moved all the UX teams from android to their vacuums
 
@ell wut no
The best ones are the industrial water based ones
 
Why would you ever need to read a manual to use a vacuum cleaner?
Just put things in as they fit
 
@AnalPhabet because they have certain operation guidelines?
 
Ell
water based hoover? :P
 
5:45 PM
@ell yes. Google it.
They are amazing
 
Industrial ones are p nice
 
@BartekBanachewicz Don't throw it, don't misuse, don't overheat, don't suck up fluids, etc
standard stuff
 
isn't hoover like a dam
 
@AnalPhabet "Don't misuse" is the keyword
 
They can wash your carpet or just suck spilt liquids
 
5:45 PM
Water based suction cleaner = sponge
 
Assumptions are bad
 
Ell
> Power(W): 2000W
no thank you
 
@CatPlusPlus Not as bad as @Nooble's mother in bed
@Ell 2kW²
 
Ell
I like my hoovers like I like my women: cordless
 
5:47 PM
Pff
Also the central ones are cool
The ones you mount in walls
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug no :P
 
Blergh.
This one's confusing me.
 
user1804599
@Ell I like my chicken farms like I like my men: with big cocks.
 
Trying to support both keyboards and gamepads is annoying
 
If a person is inside a giant centrifuge, and it gets spun around so that they stick to the wall....
 
5:49 PM
I need axes synthesised from keyboard input
 
Ell
@ThePhD continue
 
The forces acting on the person would be:
gravity, which would be the weight force. The friction force, acting..... ... uh. Towards the center of the centrigufe?
 
Centripetal is towards the center and centrifugal outwards
 
And there'd be a centripetal force, but the person plastered against teh wall isn't moving, so centripetal doesn't make sense..
 
Ell
@ElimGarak centrifugal force isn't a real force
@ThePhD the normal reaction force of the container causes that
 
5:51 PM
inertial pseudoforces
 
It depends on reference frame afair
 
Ell
I'm not that advanced vOv
oh yeah @ElimGarak did physics. I totes forgot
 
So wait
 
Ell
how can I attempt to correct you :L my apologies
 
the normal force goes INTO the container?
And the centripetal force goes
.... into the container.....?
 
5:52 PM
Centripetal is centrifugal when seen from inside maybe or the other way around or that doesn't make sense at all
One of those things
 
I've never been very good at physics
I mostly let gravity do all the work
Ugggh send abstractions I don't know how to model this shit
 
Blah.
 
@ThePhD The normal force is the response from the wall to the body as the body presses against it because the rotating nature of the centrifuge is constantly trying to change the linear momentum direction of the body. And it acts towards the center of the centrifuge, macroscopically.
 
But then what counteracts the weight (gravity) force?
 
5:55 PM
Farts
 
He should be sliding down, but that's not how it works
Static Friction?
 
@ThePhD The normal force. The object pushes down on the surface, and as an equal and opposite reaction, faces a normal force which counteracts the weight.
 
	std::vector<std::vector<std::string>, 2> vec;

  // assign some values:
  for (int i=0; i<10; i++) vec.at(i).puch_back(i) = "a";
 
... The normal force is heading INTO the container, perpendicular to the gravity force, though?!
 
am i right ?
 
5:55 PM
@ThePhD The same thing that keeps spacecrafts in orbit.
 
@underscore no you suck
 
Think about it a little :P
 
@TonyTheLion so then , how to suck in advanced ?
 
@underscore .push_back("a"); also remove vec.at(i) <--- doesn't do what you think it does
 
Ell
5:57 PM
 
Who's got shitty Apple keyboard
 
@bluefog The normal force is pushing them away from the wall. Their back is plastered to the wall from the spinning. There's a centripetal force pushing the person towards the center.
 
Can Command be conflated with Control on normal ones?
 
The weight force, however, is pulling down towards their feet. There's no force balancing tha tout.
 
Fucking Apple
 
5:58 PM
@CatPlusPlus Basically, yes.
 
@TonyTheLion Why are you feeding the vamp
 
@CatPlusPlus My wife.
 
Command + C / Command + V, etc. etc.
 
WE JUST ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY FOR NO REASON
 
@AnalPhabet donno, because I'm dumb?
 
5:58 PM
The centripetal force is caused by the fact that the body is trying to retain its linear momentum (the vector quantity). It is the response from the wall as you're pushing against it at an angle.
 
Gravity is only fought because going in a bigger circle requires less force
 
user1804599
The distinction is useful.
 
user1804599
You can use some control-based Emacs commands almost everywhere.
 
But WHAT'S fighting the gravity? Where's the "upward" force here? Is it just some random second normal force?
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes they applied a total absence of all reason and came up with that idea
 
user1804599
5:59 PM
Such as control+A, control+E and control+K.
 
Ell
@ThePhD it's not random
 
@CatPlusPlus My brother used to have one. I made him try out my Das, and he saw the light. Now he's using a mechanical keyboard and doesn't want to touch those white monstrosities.
 
Ell
There are two forces acting on the container
 
@elyse Explains why it's Emacs
 
Ell
so there will be two forces acting on the person
 

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