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3:00 AM
v and ν are the same representation in terms of visuals
 
^V||
 
wots that
 
@AlexM. the greek letter Nu
 
@Rapptz Implicit conversion from int to char, conditional is constant, unused parameter IIRC
 
MSVC is definitely smoking
 
3:05 AM
lemme find those
 
@Rapptz How can you tell? There isn’t a key/guide to the option descriptions, the manual inconsistently refer to -pedantic sometimes and -Wpedantic at some other times, and some options are listed together when they don’t do the same thing (e.g. -fsigned-bitfields and -funsigned-bitfields share an entry).
I need a manual to the manual ._.
 
The manual lists -Wpedantic and -pedantic
and then talks about it in general using -Wpedantic
 
@Rapptz warning C4101: 'e' : unreferenced local verbibol c:\main\common\include\common\jsonpp\parser.hpp:92
 
@Rapptz Except here. Editing mistake?
 
damn it
 
3:07 AM
@LucDanton meh iunno
 
there was a google tool that could catch Memory and data races that had its own talk
do you guys remember what it was?
 
@buttifulbuttefly lol
 
pull requests welcome etc
 
3:09 AM
@Rapptz I tried to test but I can’t find a way to produce warnings for extensions like that page says.
 
@VermillionAzure You're welcome
 
oh hang on
 
@buttifulbuttefly Thanks
 
@Rapptz Alright, I'll try (but why clang and gcc don't report it? :w)
 
ASAN, MSAN, and TSAN
 
3:10 AM
are you serious? never include the closing tag is the best practice? — Eliran Malka 13 hours ago
 
There's also a bunch of implicit int -> char conversions that MSVC doesn't like
 
@buttifulbuttefly Technically you can lose data if you do this right?
 
Yeah except given the surrounding code it's not possible
 
master detective cinch
 
@Rapptz Yeah no difference.
 
3:13 AM
@buttifulbuttefly I'm guessing you could say this about certain fringe cases too but aren't you using W4?
 
47 mins ago, by buttiful buttefly
Yeah I'm on /W4
Master detective cinch
 
@buttifulbuttefly Suddenly I'm Cinch
wonderful
 
NO!
 
Noooooo
My only entertainment!
 
Well there's always IRC.
#loungecpp on freenode guise.
 
3:17 AM
RIP
 
IRC is for nerds
 
3:30 AM
We're back!
I think.
 
nope
Does any of you have a Raspberry Pi?
 
I have one
never used it
will use it later
 
lol
I guess I would be the same if I buy one.
I'm planning to. Dunno if it's really worth it.
 
I don't know what to use it for yet
but until I get a router it's useless anyway
 
We have finished moving chat to New York - that's all the fun for tonight.
 
3:36 AM
Oh noes. Almost exactly on the other side of the Earth for me.
@AlexM. Can't think of something to use it for yet. Not buying then.
 
but, again, why is there -pedantic-errors ._. this shit is whack
 
3:51 AM
Who's devenv.
 
@Nooble Do you mean devenv.exe showing up (for example) in the task manager? If so, Visual Studio.
 
@JerryCoffin No, I mean the guy on IRC.
What if he's Cicada.
Now who would name themselves with something related to visual studio?
 
@LucDanton lol
 
@Nooble A troll?
...but with IRC given up-front, guessing at a troll is probably cheating.
 
why does SE move its servers so often anyway
 
4:00 AM
I have guesses. All of them involve preposterous things like making the unseelie queen angry, though.
 
@AlexM. They've just been transitioning services from Oregon to NYC, one more every couple of months or so.
 
so it's a very long move happening
 
@AlexM. Yes--and a few times, they've undoubtedly had delays of at least a few months when (for example) their NYC data center was flooded...
 
4:17 AM
After 2 whole days of walking, I am not sore at all. This is all too good.
Maybe I am fitter than I thought ...
 
@chmod711telkitty Not to be a killjoy, but it does usually take around three or four days before aches and pains become really obvious.
 
Yeah right ... I would be fooled if I was a newbie in overnight hiking/bushwalking :p
But I am way too experienced ...
</shameless self promotion>
😹
 
@chmod711telkitty As you wish--but don't blame me if my prediction comes true...
 
4:51 AM
hi
Have any of you written a task graph for parallel processing?
 
user562566
@chmod711telkitty It's clear that you've never done any exercise or worked a physically demanding job because Jerry is 100% right, you're not going to be feeling the full effect of physical stress till day 3 or so
 
user562566
just FYI
 
5:09 AM
@Nooble lol
UNFOUNDED SUSPICIONS???
@Prismatic Yes why
 
@buttifulbuttefly I'm trying to write one but I'm a little hung up on how to process a graph representing a bunch of tasks with dependencies using multiple threads and wanted some advice or things I could search for
also man you haven't changed your name yet? kinda surprised
 
A node represents a task, an arc a dependency.
Maybe google precedence graph?
 
I already have a graph setup like that.
 
Alright, what are you confused about then
 
I don't know what to do after I have a graph. You can use a topological sort on the graph to give you a list of tasks to execute in an order that satisfies all dependencies, but that only seems useful for serial execution
 
5:15 AM
You mean, given the graph and P processors, how to schedule each task on a processor?
 
Yeah
 
@Prismatic On any given level of the topo sort, the nodes can be run in parallel.
 
@LucDanton What do you mean by 'level' of a topo sort? Running a sort on a graph just gives me a list.
 
@Prismatic That's NP-hard
It's called the scheduling problem
 
@Prismatic I actually don’t remember the nomenclature, it’s been a while since graph theory.
 
5:18 AM
@buttifulbuttefly lame
 
Yeah well
 
So Intel TBB and similar libraries use research tier algos for their implementations?
 
NP-hard doesn't mean there is no solution, it only means the algorithms to find such solutions have NP complexity
TBB uses a work-stealing scheduler if I recall correctly
 
@Prismatic you may want to check out TBB's flow graphs
 
5:34 AM
@Prismatic I can’t find any interesting reference, so I may have been thinking of some sort of exercise.
 
The only thing I can seem to come up with is iterating over the task queue (which is just the topologically sorted graph) every time a thread is ready to work on a task and checking if that task has any incomplete dependencies. If it does, skip it. If it doesn't, remove it from the list and work on it
Man if I think about it, I think like 90% of my code can be described by the words "naive implementation"
also did you guys hear about swift going open source?
 
5:50 AM
also rip modules for c++17
 
@StackedCrooked dat Bartosz?
 
it's weird al
 
wow this merge failed like wth
 
@StackedCrooked lol
 
6:38 AM
hello
 
I seriously thought the dude in the video was a woman from the preview - those moobs & hair ...
 
is it easy to take care of long hair?
 
@khajvah I think it kind of pervades through pretty much everything you do.
 
I can imagine. I get annoyed when my hair is slightly longer than usual.
 
Ven
7:01 AM
hi
 
0
A: how to make this type of json string using boost library

seheI'm quite enjoying this by now. 1. you post a non question 2. I post an answer to match. In case you wanted to do this trick yourself next time, have a look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11665634/ (bases on How return leaf nodes of a boost::property_tree). Now for the party trick: Live On ...

By now I'm trolling this K.K guy hard
 
@StackedCrooked kinda good talk, though I'm not sure if it's worth watching the entire thing since what he talks about is so basic
 
Hey. That's unfair. Why do people downvote an answer that answers the question, while also explaining the way in which to get that answer?
 
I just downloaded an ssh client on my android. It feels amazing that I can control a server which is a few thousand kilometers away from my phone.
 
Upvoted for great justice
 
7:05 AM
Yeah. It's a troll that still demonstrates how to use Boost PropertyTree. And I spent 20 minutes on it :/
 
Ven
@sehe troll the K.K.K. guys harder
 
They hide from me by now
 
@khajvah rip server
 
I wish there is a troll alert, so I can troll the trolls.
 
> sudo init 0 # oops I thought I was just shutting down my phone
@chmod711telkitty alerts alone won't help you :/ Unless you would trigger the alert manually, so people would know when you do it
 
7:09 AM
What trolls?
 
Ven
Trolls like dacica
 
@buttifulbuttefly buttiful trolls
 
no compliments
 
user1804599
Hello, world!
 
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7:14 AM
Does /MP work with header-only libs
god I hate windows toolchains
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
I am hungry and I need food.
 
user1804599
I just realised why Haskell programmers don't have sex. It's because sex is I/O.
10
 
user1804599
> Yes, iff self.getData() is a pure function and has no side effects.
 
user1804599
Python, where pure functions have side-effects.
 
7:17 AM
Trolling Fibonacci?
 
@rightfold They have safe sex with limited side effects. Condoms are a monad.
6
 
user1804599
ITT Tony isn't a Haskell programmer.
 
I am not a Haskell programmer but I still don't have sex :(
7
 
Have this star of virginity
 
also have mine
 
7:22 AM
thanks guys.
 
@khajvah You must be a programmer.
 
user1804599
I don't like inference for argument and return types.
 
@MarkGarcia yay stereotypes
 
I don't like inference at scope boundaries
 
user1804599
The benefit is negligible and it complicates the language and makes parallel analysis impossible.
 
7:25 AM
@rightfold I agree
and frankly I would fire anyone who writes code like that
next time I'm not using an integer constant but having a constexpr sudoku solver with a specific row/column indices to get it
you know, because I'm smart, that's the reason
 
user1804599
> Amethyst is a web framework written in Crystal language. The goals of Amethyst are to be fast as Node.js and comfortable as Rails.
 
user1804599
R.I.P.
 
> to be fast as Node.js
My goal is to be as agile as a tetraplegic with parkison in a wheelchair
8
 
> Node.js
 
7:31 AM
@khajvah That is sad. :(
 
nice job autoboxing
 
RIP
 
user1804599
> The GNOME project is sad
 
++pun
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus what do you use for dependency injection in C#?
 
7:41 AM
@rightfold this is for you
 
user1804599
Still Castle Windsor?
 
user1804599
@MarcoA. ? No.
 
@rightfold Syringes obviously!
 
user1804599
:p
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I am not sure what's the most wrong in what you wrote, but I think it's the premise that high-level architecture is for "dumb people doing dumb things". Aside from that, FP approach can be seen both on a level higher than an OOP class (as in, a whole processing pipeline) or lower than it (map/reduce). It's just a fundamentally different approach to modeling things.
And no, you can't "do it in assembly". If you compile a functional program into assembly, you lose the very idea of it, because the assembly is too primitive to represent anything more than registers and memory.
 
user1804599
7:44 AM
You forgot step one.
 
user1804599
"define "functional programming""
 
> Ruby, Rails, and other code rants
at least he has the decency to call "ruby" and "rails" rants
 
A wild sehe was found!
 
> Was he a smart guy by /g/ standards?
lol
/g/ standards
 
7:54 AM
@sehe is it intended that only answer vote thingies float down the page as you scroll?
or is the question simply not long enough
ah, yeah nvm.
 
Xeo
The second one is us \o/
 

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