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user3010322
1:02 PM
I have MSys2 now...
 
user3010322
Now I just need to learn how to run autoconf...
 
user3010322
How would I even begin to do a ./configure on Windows...?
 
user3010322
BAH.
 
@rightfold terrible
 
the internal code (a lot of casting and typechecks) which has to be executed(for good reasons of course), automatic datatypes always are paid in speed. I don't know if I can do it faster but I'm going to try it I already wrote an any class which is faster than boost::any, I don't know if it's better ( well, I doubt it) but as far as I can test it, its performance is better than the performance of boost::any and boost::variant. And both, any and variant aren't wrote on performance so they don't even try to be fast. — Mango 28 mins ago
@sehe I'm going to go on a wild guess here and say that his name might be Alex.
I just feel it in my bones.
 
1:13 PM
AFAIK it's not
 
@Jefffrey sshhh. Don't go disclosing his real name without prior consent
 
I got that bit but
I don't get what you baited me into (?)
was the trolling making me say the obvious?
 
Into splaining it
 
I see
 
Quite a bit of the obvious, by now
 
1:15 PM
@AlexM. That doesn't read well
 
@sehe Ouch. You baited me into it. Well played, seher.
 
@AndyProwl ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
@AndyProwl that was the obvious star bait. Ba-dum...
 
Yeah I realized
 
New version
 
1:23 PM
@Mr.kbok Is it using LaTeX now? :)
 
No
I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to use latex
 
user1804599
haxx0rnews
 
Ell
I find latex awful to write
But it produces such good typography
 
user1804599
-1
Q: Implementing ADT structures in C++ vs C

MooCowThis question is getting on my nerves today. Recently I took a test where I was proposed a statement. C++ is better than C in implementing ADT data types. Now naturally I sat down and began to wonder. Why the hell would someone put such a question on a test on C? Knowing nothing of what c++ is co...

 
user1804599
> Knowing nothing of what c++ is composed of other then its Object orientated attribute
 
user562566
1:27 PM
@rightfold I wish I knew what object orientated was. Guess I'm just too stOOPid
 
template<typename T, typename... Others>... 'Others' must all share the same type right... and that's the 'concrete' type right, not the base?
 
user1804599
Types have no type in C++.
 
@thecoshman Why what
 
Aaaaand soaked
 
user1804599
We can conclude that your question cannot be answered.
 
1:31 PM
@thecoshman No, the types in a parameter pack can be different
 
user1804599
Also, show the whole code.
 
@AndyProwl oh, very nice :D
 
user1804599
You can't put ... there.
 
user1804599
template<typename T, typename... Others>... is a syntax error.
 
@thecoshman as for the second part of the question (concrete vs base), I'm not sure I understand though
 
1:31 PM
so I can do template<typename... T>foo(){} foo<int, char, lol>();
 
yes
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
user1804599
Of course.
 
> Oculus Rift won't block virtual reality porn
yaay
 
user1804599
Being able to do only foo<int, int, int>() would be retarded even by C++ standards.
 
1:32 PM
fuck yeah
 
@AlexM. What a time to be alive!
 
I know
 
what a good reason to buy Oculus Rift
 
@AndyProwl let's say in that example, I add struct A{}; struct B:A{}; struct C:A{}; struct D:A{}; and ten want to call foo<B,C,D>(); I see now that you can do that, but and I presume the three template types are the derived types. It doesn't try to 'be smart' and see they are all from 'A'.
 
is VR porn a thing?
 
user1804599
1:34 PM
There should be a programming language named "gaben".
 
@AndyProwl And it's all anime
 
user1804599
> but and I presume the three template types are the derived types.
 
Every thing is a porn thing
 
user1804599
rule 34
 
1:35 PM
@thecoshman Oh, that. Yes, the deduced types will be B, C, D
@CatPlusPlus Ew
 
@thecoshman enable_if_t<is_base_of<A, Whatever>::value>
 
@milleniumbug that would let me 'lock' the types you pass in to all be the of the same base type... right?
 
@thecoshman Yeah, I think.
 
I don't think so
It just means the deduced types must be derived from A
 
user1804599
Stop writing C++ code.
 
1:38 PM
Also I think it needs some adjustment if you want that to work with a parameter pack
 
@AndyProwl Does A count as derived from A?
 
@thecoshman Yep
 
@thecoshman Yes.
 
@milleniumbug not sure I want/need that, but just wanted to confirm I knew what was goin on there :D
I wish "is A derived from A" wasn't such a reasonable question.
 
user1804599
For all types T, T is a subtype of T.
 
1:40 PM
if you want to rule out A you can do (...) && !is_same<A, T>{}
 
user1804599
For the same reason that for all sets S, S is a subset of S.
 
(or !is_same<A, T>::value)
 
user1804599
Prohibiting the same type is weird.
 
user1804599
You never want to do that.
 
@AndyProwl oh, nice to know. Again, not sure I need/want that
 
user1804599
1:41 PM
The API consumer can work around it by creating a subtype anyway.
 
@rightfold I guess when you put it that way
 
user1804599
It's just as silly as non-final abstract classes with no abstract methods.
 
> debian:jessie: The image you are pulling has been verified. Important: image verification is a tech preview feature and should not be relied on to provide security.
lol docker
 
> "Remember that the figures presented here are for a drive that has already passed its endurance rating, so for new drives the data retention is considerably higher, typically over ten years for MLC NAND based SSDs."
So no.
 
good
 
1:51 PM
Are you kidding me? This is the most beautiful thing I've seen in months.
 
you saw me on facebook a week ago
 
I did
:P
 
I'll remember this joffre :P
 
@rightfold Apply that to C++
 
@Mr.kbok Your remove_copy_if copies to empty vector. WHOOOOOOPS.
Use back_inserter
 
Xeo
1:55 PM
Meh. Phoenix's lambdas look fancy for operators, but try calling functions with it. Turns ugly quite fast.
 
I find c++11 lambdas better myself
much easier to spot read and all that
 
Xeo
C++14 lambdas, you mean
auto parameters n stuff
 
Just std::bind(func, arg, _1) for functions.
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey yes, "just"
 
@Xeo didn't get that far, gimme a year or so
 
Xeo
1:56 PM
now try that if func is overloaded or anything.
 
remove_copy_if is a bit like gzgetss
 
pzpizza
 
Xeo
plzza
 
if I made a language
and I won't but if I made one
I'd make a standard function order_pizza
that uses some internet delivery stuff to order a pizza for you
 
what arguments would it accept
I hope there's no ketchup flag
 
1:59 PM
make a c++ library
 
@AndyProwl ingredients I think
 
@Xeo Ok :P
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey softcore OK?
 
All roads in this country are shit.
 
@rightfold Does C++ look soft to you?
 
Xeo
1:59 PM
> Turns ugly quite fast.
:P
 
@Jefffrey Terrible. :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what country are you in?
 
For some definition of ugly. That's by far not the most ugly thing you can write in C++.
 
Czech Republic
 
@Jefffrey ...that doesn't make it any less ugly.
 
2:00 PM
I hope to get to Germany tomorrow
 
[]foo
 
Xeo
Sure. But the _1 < 20 stuff is simply a red herring as to how useful Phoenix's lambdas actually are.
With operators they look beautiful
 
I'm just saying that if you are writing C++ you should reconsider the meaning of "ugly".
 
Xeo
but that's it.
 
@Jefffrey Not really.
Ugly is ugly. The threshold doesn't magically change when you start doing C++.
 
2:02 PM
I'm in Roudnice nad Labem now.
I'm eating an apple. It makes me look more like an asshole.
 
Ell
Why?
 
CinemaSins meme
 
I had a douchebag coworker from Czech, when I was a cook
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you here again? Rain?
@R.MartinhoFernandes wut
:D
 
@khajvah KHAJVAH THE CHICKEN IS SO UNCOOKED IT STARTED CROSSING THE ROAD
WHAT THE FUCK
 
2:06 PM
that one is from Britain
 
@Jefffrey yeah. Phoenix FTW though. I presume that's Boost Lambda
 
@Griwes it's all relative
 
@sehe stopped to eat an apple.
 
And dry out a bit now that the sun is shining again.
 
2:08 PM
@Xeo Did your []foo proposal solve the overloading issue?
 
Xeo
sure
 
Did it got accepted or discussed?
 
Xeo
no
and I'm too lazy to follow up
 
bad xeo
 
Xeo
vOv
 
2:10 PM
@milleniumbug Ah, it's an old version
 
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Q: c++ type for floating numbers with high precision

Tamwynwe are having heavy issues with data types. I have huge problem with data types in c++. I have to handle numbers with 100 digits (please don't kill me) I've been trying to use mpfr real, but the compiler crashs always. mpfr::mpreal prime = "578960446186580977117854925043439539266349923328202820...

> we are having heavy issues with data types. I have huge problem with data types in c++. I have to handle numbers with 100 digits (please don't kill me)
this guy needs to calm down
 
@Xeo What was the official name? "function lifting"?
 
Xeo
something like that
 
@AlexM. why would anybody kill him for that?
 
Calm down, nobody is going to kill you. — Alex M. 23 secs ago
dunno
 
2:11 PM
ROTFL remove_copy_if is copy_if with predicate negated.
That took me a while.
@AlexM. ...yet
 
@milleniumbug it does make sense, but yeah it's a classic case of the confusings.
 
> /sadpanda :(
lol
 
-- Why is C++ considered to be a bad language to learn? -- Because it's taught wrong! #cplusplus #quora http://www.quora.com/Why-is-C%2B%2B-considered-the-toughest-programming-language-to-learn-by-many-people/answer/Jerry-Coffin-2?srid=d8Ub&share=1
 
Also because it's a mess
 
lol
 
2:18 PM
I think you can get a nice language if you take C# and give it TMP
 
Xeo
TIL: 64bit DLLs are in System32, 32bit DLLs are in SysWOW64.
8
Talk about confusing
 
that's why it's called SysWOW64
because when you discover it you go "WOW what a bunch of crap"
 
lol
 
@Xeo Make it a a tweet. (Dunno if you even)
 
Xeo
Also, when you try to send someone something from within System32 via Skype, and the same file exists within SysWOW64, the upload gets automatically redirected to that file.
Fun stuff.
 
2:20 PM
WUT. Wait. Uploading overwrites the stuff? I think you witnessed application virtualization there?
 
Fucking quora piece of shit
 
Xeo
@sehe Yep
 
Xeo
Windows redirects access to the 64bit folders towards the 32bit folders if they're made by 32bit applications.
 
That ought to be about leaving %WINDIR%/%SYSTEMDIR% alone
@Xeo MS Engineers best over engineers
 
2:21 PM
> mi function
We have an irish boy over here
 
lol
 
China boi
 
mi function est embarazada
 
lol
> calcule
sounds kinky
 
actually I got the language right it seems his code is in some spanish or sth
 
2:23 PM
at least he apologized for his bad English
 
user1804599
@AlexM. mozerella
 
lol
sorry for my bad English
 
It must be terribly hard to learn programming if you don't speak English
 
speaking of spanish
I really like this song
 
I thought you didn't like Alexandra Stan
 
2:28 PM
lol
I'm gonna be honest and say the only reason I don't like her is because something about her appearance ticks me off, not sure why
some of her songs are ok tho for some reason I can only name Lemonade atm
 
songs suck but she is hot as fuck
 
any romanian singer is hot as fuck
except alexandra stan
 
:D
 
Xeo
> Now there’s an entirely new way to interact with your Mac. On the surface, the Force Touch trackpad is engineered to deliver a responsive, uniform click no matter where you press. Underneath, force sensors detect how much pressure you’re applying, adding a whole new dimension to touch. You can use a Force click to enable new capabilities, like quickly looking up the definition of a word or previewing a file, just by increasing pressure on the trackpad.
 
@AlexM. someone ping @jalf quick
 
Xeo
2:30 PM
because people are so good at judging the force they use?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you monster
 
@AlexM. she looks like Tina O'Brien
 
@Xeo They know how to advertise, you gotta give them that.
Time to go home
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit here facebook.com/SimonaNaeOfficial?fref=ts
a lot better than that Stan hot blonde pretender
 
@AlexM. And you like that?
 
2:35 PM
@Jefffrey out of the pool of singers available I think I like her the most
 
2 women fighting in the buus
was fun
 
> fly free like a buttefly in a butte
dear god cicada
we are on a professional website
 
shut up lori
 
Microsoft Cicada Professional
we got the home edition
unfortunately
 
More like Vista
 
2:37 PM
> You can also often find me in the C++ Lounge, where I bless the world with my constructive views on a number of topics.
> constructive
 
Apr 21 at 20:43, by Jefffrey
> 6k
ohayjoffre
it's more like 3k now
less than that actually
 
Hi nerds.
 
My messages are more valuable though :P
 
sup betch
 
sup bench
 
2:39 PM
@Jefffrey nice try :P
 
but I'm still gonna win
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Hm, I'm closing in on @sehe, it seems. (121k vs 140k)
 
hiya tony king of the jungle
 
I'm not even at 40k
Didn't know I sucked that hard
 
2:40 PM
@buttifulbuttefly serves you right for spreading your messages among 10000 accounts
 
the idea's nothing new but the song and the video are great
 
@Xeo that feel when I know I won't be able to overtake robot anytime soon :<
 
repost seen 2 years ago
 
wth only 6K messages
need to spam more
 
2:41 PM
I'm just above 20k
 
thank god
 
I hope I'm gonna like Witcher 3 more when I'll play it tonight
because atm I'm like "it's nice"
cause if it doesn't get me to like it a lot
I'll switch back to CS GO and wait for an upgrade and/or an enhanced edition to play it maxed out
what got flagged
 
Multiplication binds tighter than addition. Us Germans say "Punkt- vor Strichrechnung" (dot before dash calculation). Is there such a figure of speech in English?
 
2:46 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Who are you to decide what's non flaggable?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Are you fucking kidding me?
 
If the community finds it non appropriate, so be it.
 
... but ... I'm out of popcorn?
 
The rest of you say that sort of thing ALL THE TIME
 
I'll go inside and hide now
 
2:46 PM
Literally any time anyone else gets flagged
Sigh see you later then. Wankers.
 
wtf what's going on with the flags
 
are you fucking kidding me? "are you fucking kidding me" got flagged?
 
if you have it out for LRiO please find another way to get to him aside from flagging please.
 
Xeo
someone in here is butthurt
 
2:47 PM
cicada, god damnit
 
people need to get thicker skin it seems
 
"Thicker skin" is irrelevant. You are abusing flags for petty childish reasons. Stop it.
 
thankfully it's only lrio
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no, i didn't flag
 
@buttifulbuttefly No, people stop need to calling people 'dumbass'.
3
 
Apr 30 at 18:50, by Lightning Racis in Obrit
> Do you want to flag this message as spam, inappropriate or offensive?
 
I don't know why you keep pointing at me whenever there's a flag though
 
@buttifulbuttefly It's blatantly obvious it's you.
 
I got flagged and suspend for the "v-word" the other day
 
lol "feeblemindedposterior" should become a thing
 
2:49 PM
@TonyTheLion You literally asked people to flag that.
 
@JerryCoffin is this your answer?
 
can we stop with the flags ffs?
 
if so: congratulations
 
uuuh blatantly obvious it's me
whatever
i'll validate that one then
 
2:49 PM
You're French. Of course it's you.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I did
 
This is so pathetic.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ooer
 
OTOH you're kind of digging yourself deeper in the situation
@TonyTheLion vartek?
okay but in all seriousness whoever is flagging and validating this needs to stop (yeah, even though it's LRIO, shocking, I know)
 
@buttifulbuttefly I won't even say the word. I'm afraid I might offend someone on the Internet
 
2:52 PM
ha
 
user1804599
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 1 hour 28 minutes.
2
 
it is clear that someone had it out for LRiO -- can you not annoy the rest of us with flags and just get over it already? or you know, ignore him.
 
user1804599
lol 1h30m
 
poor Lori
 
2:53 PM
lorip in peace
 
.. I type LORI every time and have to correct it.
I thought I was the only one.
 
I'm done with all of you. Good bye.
 
@Danack He wrote that to a user he's in a friendly relationship with. Many of us play just playfully insult each other all the time. As long as both parties accept it, which seems to be the case here, everything's fine. I do agree that such words are inappropriate if you're addressing someone you don't know. TL;DR: context is important.
 
I just go with Tomalak.
 
sometimes I wonder how some people here are capable of outputting software you know
 
2:54 PM
@AsteroidsWithWings You'll be back. Just like last time.
 
I wish this silly flagging stuff just stopped
 
No matter how many tantrums you throw, you always come back.
 
@AndyProwl Fair enough, on the other hand the response to the initial flag was also inappropriate - and also justifies some time away from the chat rooms.
 
Yeah but that's the thing
We have a user who mass flags stuff sometimes
And whenever LRIO gets flagged he tends to post even more inflagmatory content
=> snowball
 
wait Asteroids was not Cicada?
I must have misjudged a detail somewhere
where have I gone wrong
 
2:56 PM
Asteroids == LRiO
 
TIL
why would Lori have clones
 
sockpuppet
 
@Danack That's questionable but I admit I'm not a fan of insults either - unless they're used playfully. The thing here is that everything started with a playful insult that was misinterpreted by someone not involved in the exchange. In a sense, that person's mistake triggered all of this
 
@AlexM. bypass suspensions, why else?
 
@MarcoA. Hmm....that does look vaguely familiar.
 

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