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12:36 AM
is anybody here>
 
can you help me compare a datetime function in php 5.3???
 
Some of us are here. What do you need to compare?
 
Just ask, if somebody can help they will say something.
 
ok thanks im new to objects, here is what im trying to get done
$now = new DateTime("now", new DateTimeZone('UTC'));
if($row_date->format('Y-m-d H:i:s') <= new DateTime){


mysql_query("INSERT INTO.....
(....`)VALUES
(....')")or die(mysql_error());
mysql_query("DELETE FROM...'")or die(mysql_error());
}
heres some dummie data im testing with right now and im having no luck \n 2011-12-09 16:23:01<- drop | | now-> 2011-12-10 00:43:22
 
12:47 AM
DateTime instances have diff() method: php.net/manual/en/datetime.diff.php
 
@YoungnateDaGreat can you first explain in English exactly what you're trying to get done?
 
additionally, if you are comparing the time against current time then you should do it in SQL
 
i have a online texted base game.... and lets a female dog is pregnant and im giving timestamps after so much time...... puppy.... then dog ... thus, if the female has been pregnant for a hour ... she has the pup...(change the next due date on the pups row in a mysql query) ..... then after an hour again the pup is now ... a full griwn adult .... moving his information to another table that only hold adult dogs ......
 
female dog has a different term : bitch
 
im stuck changing the pup into a dog.... cause i would run theese checks every 10 seconds for every user via jquery setinterval.......
 
12:54 AM
dog whelping and growth as a text-based game...interesting
 
@charles i kno right kool dont steal my idea zuckerberg!!!!!!!
 
I only find it interesting because I used to work for a professional dog breeder/trainer. I'm just trying to imagine the process as a game :P
 
its coming out excellent . ! im just at a wall right now ....
 
1:34 AM
Happens even to best of us.
 
1:45 AM
I don't remember did I ask or not, but I haven't got answer yet. What util directory in projects/libraries usually conceal?
 
1:59 AM
mostly , i conceals design mistake
@Eugene , i hope you are aware that your question has no context
 
Sam
2:57 AM
Hi
 
Sam
3:17 AM
how's it going?
 
Its going, just working on some XML stuff. How about you?
 
i should go to sleep .. should
 
4:21 AM
Good time everyone !
 
hi everyone....I have a question
the mysql manual allows this code 'show procedure code procedure_name'
 
I am wondering what would be an optimal way to keep revision history of rows in MySQL or should be done manually with the Script ?
 
but anytime I run the code, I keep receiving a 1064 error
 
@user705339 did you look up error 1064 ?
 
what's 'revision history of rows'?
yeah....it's usually a syntax error
I know I've run it before without errors, but I don't know why it's generating errors now
 
4:29 AM
Perhaps it's a version issue ? i
what version you have ? and when was show procedure was introduced ?
 
I don't know how to check the mysql version....but let me check the code again on my development system. I know the version of the mysql on there
now, I'm receiving an error 1289 on that one.......mysql must be built with --with-debug
 
5:09 AM
anyone know about comet and longpolling in php ?
 
 
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7:39 AM
Hi anyone can solve this issue?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8455040/split-a-string-and-concat-the-string-from-an-array-in-php
 
 
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10:30 AM
Good morning
 
10:44 AM
where?
 
11:43 AM
@tereško Not really.
@tereško I asked what util directory in PHP/Java projects/libraries usually conceals? What sort of classes/files? What more context do you need?
 
11:56 AM
phpunit.de is down :(
 
12:26 PM
The server that runs *.phpunit.de is currently down. Sorry for the inconvenience.
 
There one solution though
There was (almost) entire internet torrent.
 
Good Morning
 
Hello @ircmaxell
 
How's it going?
 
Fine, you?
 
12:42 PM
@Gordon Now I see how twitter might be useful
Hey @ircmaxell
 
oh, pretty good. Looking forward to going to a hockey game today
 
@Gordon do you know what files/classes unit package/directory usually conceals?
Did anyone see new twitter design?
 
12:57 PM
Hi i just posted a question and wanted to ask if anyone knows how to do a mod_rewrite in simple steps please...tks......stackoverflow.com/questions/8456579/…
 
@ircmaxell , would yo say that element od model layer , controllers and view classes are entities with same lifetime ?
i'm looking at ways how to combine my MVC-related factories , because ATM it looks like ass
$view_fatory = new ViewFactory;
$domain_object_factory = new DomainObjectFactory;
$datamapper_factory = new DatamapperFactory( $connection_repository );
$controller_factory = new ControllerFactory( $view_factory, $domain_object_factory, $datamapper_factory );
 
od?
 
what's "od" ?
 
you could combine the 3 into a single ApplicationFactory (which creates the 3 primary components, but uses other factories to create subcomponents)
@tereško would yo say that element od model layer <-- you tell me
 
*of and *you
 
1:00 PM
ahhh
 
i think the root of the issues is that i am trying to implement something that could be use both in form of Model2 and HMVC
thus , the controller needs to be able to create not only elements of model , but subcontrollers and views too
that's what is causing the clusterfak at ControllerFactory
so ... @ircmaxell, would you say that all MVC-ish components have same lifetime ( and because of that , can be created by same factory ) ?
 
I am looking to see if someone can assist me with this question:
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Q: Applying jQuery Fade in or Scroll Effect to Facebook Like Newsfeed

Kevin Oluseun KarimuI have a news feed that has been developed using PHP, MySQL, and jQuery. The news feed does it's job by getting new content every 5 seconds. However, this is done by a "refresh" of the complete content. I want to only ADD any new content to the news feed. I want a fade in or scroll effect to be u...

 
1:17 PM
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Q: Clean URL with php and apache

JackyBoiI am learning how to create a website, and would like some help. I have this path in the wamp folder: C:\wamp\www\Personal_site\Root_fold\index.php (the main file starts here). I want to have cleanurls for this file: C:\wamp\www\Personal_site\Root_fold\Tutorials\C_sharp\C_loginapp.php, and I wa...

anysuggestions over here?
 
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Q: Applying jQuery Fade in or Scroll Effect to Facebook Like Newsfeed

Kevin Oluseun KarimuI have a news feed that has been developed using PHP, MySQL, and jQuery. The news feed does it's job by getting new content every 5 seconds. However, this is done by a "refresh" of the complete content. I want to only ADD any new content to the news feed. I want a fade in or scroll effect to be u...

I want to use the answer provided in my question to implement the news feed using jQuery. I have trouble understanding where the SQL Query and Results should go in the code.
 
Sounds like a PHP question to me :D
3 messages moved from JavaScript
 
@Raynos ... did you scroll up before dumping the garbage ?
 
no :D
I just dumped
 
no cookie ..
 
1:24 PM
@ircmaxell hello :-)
 
$view_fatory = new ViewFactory;
$datamapper_factory = new DatamapperFactory( $connection_repository );
$domain_object_factory = new DomainObjectFactory( $datamapper_factory );
$controller_factory = new ControllerFactory( $view_factory, $domain_object_factory);
@tereško why don't you pass the datamapper to the domainobject ?
 
huh ?
 
@Raynos kidding, right?
 
@Raynos , they are factories
@KamilTomšík , it would be nice it you scrolled up too , to see the original question i had .. i would appreciate your input
 
@tereško possibly
 
1:28 PM
@tereško I already did, however I dont get what you're asking, if they will live for the same time? yes, they will, we're in php
 
thats not what i was asking
 
then please clarify :-)
 
What would be the apropriate name of Html element? Would it be tag as how it is called or element? Or element is very abstract and tag explains, that this isn't just an element, but a Html element?
 
@Eugene HtmlElement
 
@KamilTomšík But if my package/directory is already named Html?
 
1:31 PM
@Eugene that doesnt mean anything, read unclebob (packages are not here to save you from typing)
 
@KamilTomšík Emm. Still don't understand. Why not Html/Tag => ..._Html_Tag ?
Or element
How to reference a message in chat room?
 
@Eugene okay, so are you using namespace or some Zend convention?
 
@KamilTomšík , there are certain rules which determine what sort of elements can be created by factory .. for example , some hypothetical factory which create DB connection could not be building DataMappers too , because while connection will certainly exist for whole run of application , the Mappers are relatively less likely to exist same amount of time , and could even be manually disposed of
 
@KamilTomšík Not at the moment, but I'm thinking about it.
@KamilTomšík Have to do some refactoring for that.
 
sorry for the half-A4 question ... latvian language mannerisms peaking through ..
 
1:34 PM
@tereško yeah:
1. still not that much important in php, everything will die after request
2. there are 2 solutions - you can inject dbconnection into datamapper which means dbconnection have to be created first or you can create object when you want and leverage setter injection, first one would be probably prefered
 
well , yes .. you must always inject only instances with longer or same lifetime in other objects
 
@Eugene Html\Element is just wrong, it would look like new Element() in code, which can be too vague
 
and the "it's just php , so it is ok to write crap code" , is kinda stupid thing to repeat again and again, and again , @KamilTomšík
 
@tereško it's not about crappy code, it just about performance, in other langs, it makes sense to bend architecture a little in order to get some objects living across multiple requests
 
readability and maintainability trumps performance
 
1:38 PM
@tereško really? :-) would you create and destroy dbconnections and datamappers during each request in java too?
 
i am not going to discuss "how it is done in other languages"
 
in theory there could be usecase (connecting to different db based on request data) for that, in practice it doesnt make much sense
 
thank you for you input
 
youre welcome
 
2:08 PM
@KamilTomšík Why would it look like that path Html\Element and ..._Html_Element() in code. I'm just concern with how it should be named Element or Tag since element doesn't specify to clearly. On the other hand it is already in Html directory and in code it will have name with prefix of directory, that should explain what sort of element it is.
@KamilTomšík If I will use namespaces and I will be able to name elements without prefix of the package, than it would look odd and I think, that Tag() would better to use then, but still tag is too fuzzy in nowadays, since it means to many things. Well I came to a conclusion, that you werre right and I will need to name it as HtmlElement since HtmlTag is too ...
 
@Eugene , how about the DOMElement for a name ?
 
@tereško Not what I need.
@tereško Can be used inside of it, but not instead.
 
i really cannot find where you explain what you need
 
2:28 PM
@tereško There's no need to explain. There was just a simple question about naming and I already proposed two of possible names. Question was about which one to use or is there a need of a modification if using namespaces or should it also contain a single parent package name in its name. There was no need to explain what it does. Read the discussion more carefully if you want to.
 
3:27 PM
hoi
 
@NikiC Hoi hoi hoi!
:)
 
3:52 PM
@Eugene I don't get your point - you said Html\Element and I said Html\HtmlElement would be better since whole HtmlElement will be shown in code, when prefixing is involved class name already contains Html_ prefix so? And if you asked about Element vs. Tag, then Tag means two things <body> and </body> are both tags
while element is consistent across both <br /> and <body></body> versions
@NikiC hola ;)
 
@KamilTomšík My final point was, that you where right, that it is better to name HtmlElement rather than just Element.
 
@KamilTomšík sup?
 
@Eugene oh, youre welcome :-)
@NikiC wassssaaa :-)
I think I got a cold... :-/
 
emm .. @Eugene , keep in mind that class-namespace relationship is not "IS A"
 
btw: if you havent seen already... channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/…
 
4:00 PM
@tereško Keep in mind that people disagree with that ;)
 
yo
 
@Eugene Don't listen to @tereško. You can use either namespaces for IS A or for BELONGS TO. Teresko does the second ;) Other, like self, do the first
 
"IS A" relationship exists between the class and superclass .. as in class Klass extends SuperKlass
 
@ircmaxell yo
 
@NikiC :)
 
4:04 PM
how goes it? (again)
 
@tereško I think you've meant "BEHAVES-AS" (IS-A is too much vague term)
 
no , with "IS A" . i mean "IS A"
 
@KamilTomšík No, I think is a is the appropriate relation
 
@ircmaxell @tereško is annoying me again, just when I thought that he is getting nicer...
 
because behaves-as means imlements interface
 
4:07 PM
@ircmaxell yes, and I think in context he was talking, interface is more appropriate
 
eih
@NikiC Yeah, that can happen
 
@NikiC it can be quite annoying , when someone tells you that "you got it wrong" .. esspecially if they are right
 
whooops, I see :-)
 
.. im talking from personal experience
 
@tereško yep, hapenned to me on monday :-) colleage of mine pointed out that one piece of my code is not thread safe, we've argued for few minutes and then it turned out he was right since compiler according to specification can change order of execution and other threads could see uninitialized object...
still it wasn't entirely bad feeling, actually I felt great since it was something new I was not aware of
 
4:15 PM
@tereško It's not like you're making your situation any better with comments like this ;)
You are basically arguing about a question of coding standard with right and wrong - which is pretty pointless as people have different coding standards.
 
4:33 PM
Guys any good articles on namespace usage? That could teach a thing or two.
 
namespaces are pretty intuitive. do you have any concrete questions?
 
5:16 PM
Well I would like to play a bit with them to see what the fuss is about.
:)
 
Personally I think the php.net site has great docs on the use of namespaces in PHP. php.net/manual/en/language.namespaces.php
 
I'm a bit curious about that if files have names like in Zend still most of the time for a purpose of autoloading then what for are namespaces here? The names of classes will not cross each other anyway. Aren't namespaces exactly for that?
Or am I totaly lost with such thought? :)
 
5:31 PM
Well, you'll actually notice that in ZF2 they've dropped the long class names in favor of namespaces
 
Okey. I will take a look now.
 
b01
5:44 PM
I like Joomla, because I don't like getting things done quickly; and playing with way too many files for the simplest of things.
Just thought I'd share that with everyone.
Sarcasm
 
@b01 , then you will just adore ZF2.0
 
6:12 PM
Very good explanation of namespaces usage zend.com/en/webinar/Framework/…
I didn't quite understand how the autoloading now works if I will use namespaces.
 
b01
@tereško, Its awesome when the framework inhibits development, and slows the project up, with it sharp learning curve. You'll all love Joomla for this.
As much as I do.
 
https://github.com/cspray/CleanSprayFire/blob/master/libs/sprayfire/core/ClassLoader.php

Here is an example of how I use autoloading with namespaces. Assume `ROOT_PATH` to be your application's root directory.
 
b01
It funny how much more complex OOP seems now, than when I was being thought in college over 10 years ago.
 
For example if I have:
/Chain/
/Chain/ElementOne.php
/Chain/ElementTwo.php
/Chain/ElementOne.php contains:

namespace Chain;

class ElementOne
{
	public funciton __construct()
	{
		echo 'Element One';
	}
}
 
b01
Now I feel like they were teaching me the wrong things. Or the OOP has grew into something much more and different somehow.
 
6:21 PM
/Chain/ElementTwo.php contains:

namespace Chain;

class ElementTwo
{
	public funciton __construct()
	{
		echo 'Element Two';
	}
}
and I have index.php. How would I call it from there? Would I need to use __autloader or would I need to use require_once?
 
Well, first function is misspelled
 
@CharlesSprayberry In your code on github?
 
b01
I meant taught above
 
Second, don't ever just use __autoload. Add an autoloader function spl_autoload_register
@Eugene No, the code you posted says funciton
 
@CharlesSprayberry I know that. Okey see my mistake thanks. Notepad++ for quick typing :)
 
6:24 PM
Third, I would add an autoloader to spl_autoload_register as compared to requiring all your files
 
So in other words autoloader in still needed. I thought that maybe php is like Java now :)
 
Well, even in Java the files have to be imported
You could use the default implementation of spl_autoload()
but that requires your file names to be all lower case
 
Okey. You answerd my question, with that namespace is still needed :)
 
But, really if your namespaces are setup correctly the autoload function with namespaces should be as simple as replacing the \ with the DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR
 
Thank you.
Also a question what for do you have a backslash
public function setAutoLoader() {
        \spl_autoload_register(array($this, 'loadClass'));
    }
 
6:27 PM
Because spl_autoload_register is in the global namespace
 
So you overwritten spl_autoload_register in global namespace?
 
No, I'm being very specific that I want the spl_autoload_register function that is in the global namespace and not the spl_autoload_register function in \libs\sprayfire\core, as such a function doesn't exist
Without any namespace definition, all class and function definitions are placed into the global space - as it was in PHP before namespaces were supported. Prefixing a name with \ will specify that the name is required from the global space even in the context of the namespace.

http://php.net/manual/en/language.namespaces.global.php
 
As I understand from a video if you don't prefix it will search for it in global either way since you don't have it in your current namespace.
 
That may be correct, however part of my reason for namespaces is that I remove the ambiguity about which class or function I'm calling. For me, that includes defining when I'm looking for a class or function from the global space
Somebody reading my code in the future may expect there to actually be a \libs\sprayfire\core\spl_autoload_register() function. This way, I'm clearly telling any future programmers that this function is in the global space
Naturally I would not write a new spl_autoload_register function but the principle still applies
 
It would be a very odd programmer :)
But I see your point.
 
6:37 PM
Hey all, Im a little confused about something. Someone told me to run their site on a port, in this case port 3000: dev.site.com:3000. However, when i type the url in address bar, it doesnt work. I assume I have to launch the server. I am able to ssh onto the ubuntu server and gain access to the application itself. But that really doesnt do me any good. Am I missing something to do here?
 
Have you changed port in apache?
 
I add 3000 to the end of the url, is that not changing port?
 
The server still has to be setup to be listening on that port
 
you mean apache on my computer or on their server?
 
You have to chenge it there, where are you trying to connect on that port.
 
6:39 PM
they use apache for their server and I also have apache running locally on my mac
 
Well, their server :) What does the apache configuration on your machine have to do with the one you're connecting to?
 
your right are you saying I have to look at their configuration file to see if it is listening to 3000?
 
From what you've told us so far yes
 
Do you have access to it?
 
I am on their web server right now yes, its running ubuntu
 
6:41 PM
@CharlesSprayberry Could you tell me what name does autloader receive if I will call a class defined in one namespace in other, but with usage of use keyword? For example use libs\Regisrty as reg; $class = new reg();. If that class is not included yet, then what autloader will receive? Will it get reg or libs\Regisrty?
 
so I need to check their virtual host file?
 
Then change port server is litening on.
@JohnMerlino Look into httpd.conf somewhere, don't know where it is on linux :/
 
I lookede at the httpd.conf file and it is empty. thats wierd
 
Damn. Bad news.
Outage of *.phpunit.de is caused by hardware issues that cannot be solved before Monday. Sorry about that.
 
I press escape and then control + colon and then the letter q to exit vim, and it just shows "recording" on the bottom and does not exit
 
6:55 PM
Google it
 
Outage of *.phpunit.de is caused by hardware issues that cannot be solved before Monday. Sorry about that.
 
im not even sure if escape button on my computer works
I press shift + : and the letter q and the thing does not exit, and I pressed escape before doing that as documentaiton suggested
 
7:10 PM
I just installed nano, forget vim
 
Random woman in the Sunnyvale Fry's checkout line asked me which of 2 beginner PHP books she should get for her son. #php
 
Nice. lol Well, maybe she was a PHP programmer once too. :)
 
i only wonder , what did he recommend
 
@Eugene The autoload function you have defined will get the fully namespaced class name. In your example you should get libs\Registry
 
Tank you.
That sure makes code cleaner then.
 
7:16 PM
people like this make me sad :
reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/n6oe7/… .. yet another crap code released in the world
 
what if there's 10 httpd.conf files on your sever, how do you know which is the config file?
 
@CharlesSprayberry Who is the PhpLegoLand for a framework name? :)
 
if you have 10 httpd.config files on the server , then apache is not your problem .. it's your admin
 
@JohnMerlino Find one, that affects work.
 
.. and fire him
 
7:21 PM
Given that the best name I could come up with for my own framework is just a random word added to the first half of my last name...not sure you want me to give you advice on names :)
 
@tereško Wo bad there is no way of doing that on shared hosting :)
 
I wonder what book Rasmus suggested...
 
@CharlesSprayberry Ask him silly :)
@CharlesSprayberry Well I actually misspelled my question, but asked it from all who are here. Even thought I made as a reply.
 
@CharlesSprayberry He probably told you, that this is a secret of a PHP book club members :)
 
7:26 PM
@CharlesSprayberry let us know the answer
 
Actually, I fully expect him to see @charlesspray and think "Who the hell is this guy?"
 
lol
 
this command takes too long: grep -r "dev.mysite.com"
anyone have soemthing quicker that will search into file?
 
faster then grep ? .. maybe prayer
 
I imagen if he will write in reply "@charlesspray WTF? O_o" :)
 
7:27 PM
@tereško that's a good one, especially coming from you
 
there's no unix command called prayer
 
@CharlesSprayberry That will be hilariouos
 
he wanted fast .. there was nothing said about actually getting results
 
the results parts goes without say
 
7:54 PM
Kind of a response
No, she had no idea who I was. Wearing an Intel Linux t- shirt, so she probably picked up on that. I said the more recent of the 2 she had
Which, of course doesn't really tell us anything at all
 
8:20 PM
I have written a summary on PCRE (regex) newline behavior: nikic.github.com/2011/12/10/PCRE-and-newlines.html
 
8:51 PM
$currentDT = new \DateTime();
$filterRange = new \DateInterval('PT30S');
$filterDate = $currentDT->sub($filterRange);
var_dump($currentDT);
var_dump($filterDate);
$currentDT and $filterDate are the same...
even though they should be 30s different. Any idea why?
 
@NikiC aka Cartman? lol
 
@ninov Nicht hier!
 
@NikiC ok..
 
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A: MySQL connection: globally or in object?

zerkmsCreate a function that creates the connection on demand and provides access to the connection object: function getDb() { static $db; if (!$db) $db = ...; return $db; } Wrapped into class this approach is called Singleton

why stackoverflow became so....
Хватит писать на немецком!!
;-P
 
Sorry, bad tab :P
 
9:04 PM
@zerkms sorry, I didn't want everyone to read that, so I wrote in german ;) Deleted now
 
:-)
@NikiC: anyway, /me made another troll-thread (the link is above)
 
@zerkms what is the word you are looking for ?
 
@tereško: straightforward probably
 
@zerkms Oh, it's that Kris Craig question
 
there are people who've heard "singletons are evil" without getting the idea why it is
 
9:08 PM
anyway , anyone know answer to @NoviceCoding's question ?
 
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A: PHP datetime sub issue

salatheThat is the expected behaviour, the subtraction acts on the original object which is then returned. This can be seen by the 246 in the var_dump() outputs, denoting that they're one and the same object. If you wish to keep the original object untouched, you'll need to clone it before doing the s...

 
yeah .. saw .. approved =]
 
:)
 
@NikiC Thanks for stalking me :)
 
I would like to do this but be able to search in all directories on server: grep dev.mysite.com httpd.conf Right now this command will fail because it only looks in immediate dir
 
9:22 PM
@edorian I am?
 
looking for the string dev.mysite.com in file httpd.conf in all directories from root
 
or phpunit, or whatever. Thanks for the comment on the bug
 
@edorian oh, yeah, i am watching phpunit
That is a nice bug by the way. It made me learn a lot of new things ;) [I never knew about the Xsp and Xps character properties and the UCP mode for example]
 
You are also following me and the comment came an hour after mine so I assume that triggered it ;)
 
@edorian Nah, that is from watching phpunit ;) Following only shows if you create a new repo or such ;)
@edorian nice :D
 
9:28 PM
It does? Good to know
 
I think I'm following everyone from this room
 
/[^\x09-\x0d\x20-\x7f\x80-\xff]/ just looks so random and arcane to match printable multibyte chars
 
I have no idea what it does, but it definitely does something different from the regex I posted
 
yeah. But yours looks readable :)
 
what are you regexp'ing ?
 
9:32 PM
But I don't think it will particularly help the OP
As he is saying the he does not use UTF-8
 
lol
 
9:45 PM
Salam / Hey guys!
howdy
 
9:56 PM
@edorian Anyways, I already asked you once, but you didn't answer: Are you vegetarian?
 
Currently. Yes
 
interesting
 
Why? :)
 
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Q: in_array on objects with circular references

GordonMI'm building an array of objects. I need this array to only contain once instance of a given object, having multiple references to the same object should throw an exception. I'm using the following code to achieve this: public function addField ($name, iface\Node $field) { // Prevent the...

good q&a
@edorian Just wanted to know ;)
@zerkms Btw, I disagree with you in that discussion you had with hakre about singletons ;)
I think that type of singleton is worse than a global variable
You can at least change a global var; it's ugly, yes, but it's possible. But you can't change the instance in that singleton function ;)
 
10:40 PM
wanna see something scary ? go to github and search for "php framework"
 
Oh.. yeah that sounds scary
 
btw , i think i will soon coin a new term .. my code is suffering from "factoritis"
 
factoritis?
 
excessive amount of factories
 
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