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Mind you - I do have a very clever inbox - you put the things in the slot at the top and it makes a bit of a whirring noise etc...
 
@JonClements wow, you must deal with mail so quickly
 
@RobertGrant I find it's a cool way of getting jigsaws
 
3:03 PM
@Ffisegydd it's tempting - but if I had the time to spend, I'd do so on nidaba/kesh
@Martijn there must be a dupe
 
Alright, I'm all handed over for the year
Will see you guys online at some point soon no doubt, but we probably won't be going anywhere near any Edinburgh pubs
rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb
 
Nice dude, have a good journey.
@Jon yeah if the R one had won, I'd have had a go.
 
@JonClements I am thinking the OP is actually trying to produce two binary bytes..
 
@Ffisegydd as if I wanted to relive the transcript saga I already went through
 
You've learned so much now though!
 
3:12 PM
actually, it's already possible to do this with what I wrote, just cache everything then perform an aggregate query
not in go, of course, but I think that's good enough
it would take a long time to cache though
 
@Ffisegydd I want to try, yeah
Never tried Go, so that will be weird.
@davidism Quick, make a public API for the parser, that we can use in our answers xD
 
lol, all the go program does is make one call to sopython
 
I just found the API to access the PYPI repository. Gonna look at getting the names of all packages for Nidaba. Only 54,000.
 
@Ffisegydd huh?
 
@Ffisegydd pip search ''?
 
3:16 PM
I didn't even know you could do pip search ''. I found wiki.python.org/moin/… though.
 
oh, I got it.
 
warning: causes a 503 on the PyPI server
 
You thought I was using 54,000 packages with Nidaba? :P That's a lot of requirements :D
 
is the xmlrpc the new api?
 
There's a json api but I don't think it supports searching
 
3:17 PM
I was debating registering sopython-site on PyPI, but I didn't see much point
 
I was also debating registering Nidaba. I think there's more point in registering Nidaba than sopython-site, but still not a huge amount of point.
 
I don’t see the point in having “final” projects on pypi. Final as in, they are not a library used for something else, but are the final application that is executed.
 
Well the tools we're building for Nidaba could be used in other things. Question objects etc. But yeah I see your point.
 
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Hi @anurag, please see the room rules : sopython.com/chatroom
 
3:23 PM
In particular, please don't link new questions here.
(Also: team-work-high-five guys)
 
@Ffisegydd enjoy it while it lasts, soon robots will take over our jobs
or RABBITs in this case
 
You're a cheery bugger @davidism
:P
 
Yes but by then I'll have a new job teaching the robot :P
 
progress!
 
@davidism sorry i have no idea this is not a good place
 
3:26 PM
This is a great place :) we just have rules.
Good luck with your problem, though it seems that alecxe has already answered it.
 
It is amazing how many people want to use Scrapy to crawl Amazon. You'd think it would be a solved problem by now. Or, you know, people might realize they shouldn't build products on an every-changing website that doesn't publish an API.
 
Yeah. It's almost as if Amazon doesn't want people to scrape their website.
 
I believe there is an API - but it's for partners only
 
CBG
 
3671
I remember when I got 3671 rep...now I'm over double it.
 
3:29 PM
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Flask is stripping my HTML whitespace and I can't figure out where it's coming from. If you look at the source of swiftstub.com the whole HTML doc is trimmed.
I've been at this for the past couple days. I am totally baffled
 
@Johnston have you got jinja2 auto stripping at all
 
@JonClements I don't know. I'll google that...
 
HTML isn't stripped for me.
 
do view source
 
3:30 PM
sopython has auto-stripping enabled and it doesn't do that
 
user559633
throw some singles on the stage @Ffisegydd
 
it's not totally stripped. it's just trimmed.
 
umm.. what is the name of the module, where all arithmetic operators live?
 
@tristan <3
 
user559633
math?
 
3:31 PM
So the indentation is not there
 
operator
 
omg.. it is soooooo late friday
yes it is the operator
thanks guys..
 
I have flask-assets, flask-cache...
 
Is that not what you want?
 
@Ffisegydd View source is different.. That will auto indent because it's the debug..
 
3:33 PM
Ah ok.
 
user559633
devils advocate: who cares
 
1. Yeah, who cares? Makes your site faster. 2. Yeah when I do view source there is very little whitespace.
 
@Ffisegydd that's what I mean.
 
Awww... how the hell can I raise any more flags now :(
 
user559633
you have to raise 111 more
 
user559633
3:35 PM
@Johnston trim_blocks or lstrip_blocks ?
 
Well... since I don't use DE to go around flagging everything I can and can otherwise vote/close/delete anyway... it's a slog to get flags...
 
I'm going to miss out on this bounty because the op self-answered/accepted with a one line, unclear answer, that references stuff that isn't/wasn't even in the question.
 
@davidism that's lame
 
user559633
welcome to stack overflow
 
this was the question where Antti and I pointed out huge problems with the code, I ended up detailing everything
 
3:40 PM
@davidism I've upvoted... that might be enough to (if the OP doesn't bounty you) trigger the automatic half bounty reward
I don't believe you can award a bounty to yourself anyway
 
I upvoted too
 
user559633
i downvoted because i'm hungover and i can't believe i'm still dealing with computers to make my living
 
well, you can't award the bounty, but the rules say it goes to an answer that was accepted after the bounty started, even if there are higher voted answers, the votes are only if there isn't an accept
 
user559633
JK I LOVE YOU NEVER LEAVE US
 
<3
 
3:42 PM
@davidism accepts don't count
 
@davidism I would upvote you, but that would bring you too close to my rep (I kid, have an upvote and a badge)
 
> If the bounty was started by the question owner, and the question owner accepts an answer posted during the bounty period, and the bounty expires without an explicit award then we assume the bounty owner liked the answer they accepted and award it the full bounty amount at the time of bounty expiration.
we'll find out in 30 minutes or 7 days
bounty rules are weird
 
But they self-answered so it might be different.
After all they can't keep the rep.
 
@davidism umm... there's a 24 hour grace period as well
so the listing goes after 7 days, but the bounty person has another 24 hours to award it before anything automatic could happen
Just watching the Yogscast doing a GMod game... building boats to go round a track...
 
ah, read "7 days plus the grace period" wrong
 
3:46 PM
one of the teams has sniped the other's boat's barrels and turned the material to concrete
so they've been adding more barrels to compensate as they can't work out why all of a sudden it's sinking
hilarious...
 
I won't speak to the quality of those types of videos, but the thumbnails that most people make with their face in some weird shape taking up more space than the game itself are super annoying.
 
@davidism the Yogscast are generally very good quality
 
I've never gotten into watching Youtube videos.
 
And then, if you decide to watch a video, most of them have some stranger's face over-exagerating "reactions" while blocking the actual game.
I'm trying to watch the game, maybe with some interesting, relevant commentary, not your face!
/rant
 
I occasionally watch Let's Plays, but almost always avoid facecam videos.
 
3:53 PM
Two of my friends (a couple) make Let's Play videos as a couple doing coop and such, they avoid face cams though.
It's mostly the two of them getting hammered on Jagermeister and shooting each other in the back.
 
the only good use of a camera: lparchive.org/Super-Mario-64-%28With-Feet%29
not going to spoil it, watch the first video
and then all the rest, it's amazing
 
The spoiler is in the URL :-)
I've watched bits and pieces of it before. I was impressed.
 
why don't you just blindly click things without looking?!
 
I advise everyone else to do that, in this circumstance.
I'm watching in real time: the OP accepting another user's answer; them unaccepting their answer and accepting mine; and them unaccepting my answer and accepting the other one.
It's a real roller coaster of emotion.
: ( :
 
4:06 PM
Let's Play Stack Overflow [closed]
 
Oh... and I love when they did all the simulator games (which are always buggy): dancing truck
 
This question stackoverflow.com/q/27319859/3005188 is a lot of effort for something that looks simple at first.
Also the answer is just plain wrong
Kasra had a poor answer that was incorrect. Cyber had a good answer that was still incorrect. Cyber deleted his answer. Kasra copied Cyber's old code. So it's still incorrect.
 
:-I
 
I've been noticing Kasra's answers recently, they're usually almost right, but in terrible broken English.
 
DSM
Morning cabbage to all.
 
4:10 PM
It's one of those questions where it looks like you could have a nice little LC. But really it's better to just write it out fully.
Top of the mornin' to ya.
 
DSM
@Fizzy: I'm not even sure if "10+ digits smaller" means what I think it does.
 
Yeah it is a very odd way of putting it.
 
't is the season apparently. 3 accepts of answers > 6 months old in 3 days.
Plus one on Programmers.
 
cbg @DSM
 
this video player is so terrible
 
4:14 PM
@DSM Afternoon cabbage.
 
user559633
@corvid strongly agree
 
All video players are terrible
 
Ahh... I've got an accept on an answer that Kasra also answered... here - see what you mean about the English
 
which video player?
 
user559633
you know which one
 
4:19 PM
Quicktime?
 
I do?
 
DSM
@Kevin: hey, I meant to ask. How was Mr Claus?
 
user559633
Definitely
 
I don't.
 
user559633
Sure thing David
 
user559633
4:20 PM
can i go home yet?
 
Don't you work from home?
 
@DSM A-. The team had a few moments of improvisation that fell flat, but their prepared material brought many laughs.
 
user559633
Not anymore, i have a ~~~~~~*job*~~~~~~ now
 
The ratio of tildes to asterisks there is not optimal.
 
user559633
Which is like working from home, but you have to wear pants and waste time doing non-work things.
 
4:21 PM
The theater had some technical difficulties that caused us to miss the first ten minutes of the presentation. On the plus side, they gave us coupons for two free admissions apiece.
 
user559633
It's a pre-recording. Can't they just restart it?
 
user559633
I need to finish the product that I was doing when I was working from home so I can sell it and become a gentleman cabbage farmer
 
The Santa Claus movie itself was recorded long ago, yes, but the Riffs were being transmitted live. As far as I know.
 
Tis basically a phone with a Kindle/e-ink screen on the back
 
one of the guys in the office lives next to this amazing donut shop, he brought in maple bacon bars. So delicious, so deadly. :)
 
DSM
4:27 PM
So it's hard to tell if he's a friend or an enemy. Those are fun people to know.
 
bar? I reject all non torus shaped donuts.
Shapes topographically equivalent to torii are fine, though. Ex. The Dunkin Donuts special that has a little offshoot to facilitate dunking.
 
cbg
 
yo
 
An answer by Kasra there getting mega-downvoted. never mind it's gone
 
I was about to leave a disapproving comment. Foiled again!
 
DSM
4:34 PM
Which question? The 10+ one?
 
0
Q: python process multiple string at the same time

JudyJiangI have a list of strings and i want to remove the stop words inside each string. The thing is, the length of the stopwords is much longer than the strings and I don't want to repeat comparing each string with the stopwords list. Is there a way in python that these multiple strings at the same tim...

 
DSM
Heh. Lookups in 0(1) must be really fast.
 
My calculations indicate that 0 * 1 is 0, a very small number.
 
ahh... but dividing by that very small number results in an unfathomably large number
 
4:39 PM
The unfathomableness of 1/0 is overstated. I'm fathoming it right now! You can't stop me!
 
A recent OP rebutted my comment saying, "[my stop words list is] 100, 000 [elements] long". Fib detected. That's like 75% of all the words in English.
Unless "stop word" means, like, 'every word ever except "a", "the" and "and"'
 
A member of this room stated that "A recent OP rebutted my comment saying, "[my stop words list is] 100, 000 [elements] long". Fib detected. That's like 75% of all the words in English." Fib detected. There are ~1,000,000 English words.
 
“The Millionth Word was the controversial 'Web 2.0′.” – I call BS on that.
No way this coincidence happened.
 
<3
I didn't damn nothing.
 
4:44 PM
Dang, I need to update my words module.
>>> import wordlist
>>> len(wordlist.getWords())
173122
also I need to change that to get_words.
 
DSM
I kind of admire the .8.. It's like when you're betting on a game and the line is giving three and a hook. Even though you know no one can score half a point, it gives you more information about the mean expectation.
 
English supports fractional words. It's a necessary hack to provide the answer to "what is the sound of one hand clapping"? It's "cl".
 
Depends on how you clap
 
Or "ap", depending on whether you're left or hand handed. DAMNIT POKE
 
Is "cl" your left and and "ap" the right hand?
 
4:47 PM
:-)
 
damn you @IntrepidBrit and @poke!
talk about hivemind working again...
 
cl and ap. I didn’t even mean that.
Now I’m disappointed
 
Apparently I've posted 452 messages here. And that places me within the room's page
 
Ahh...japes. On that bombshell, I'm off to the Christmas market.
 
I thought that was a serious assumption…
 
4:48 PM
You can get a full clap sound with one hand, although the volume is mediocre.
 
It places you there because you've recently spoken I think
 
^ like exactly now.
 
I guess a one-handed clap is called a slap.
 
one hand clap is possible, i just did...see......"clap"
 
I can clap one-handed. Without having to slap someone
 
4:50 PM
Well, I've posted slightly more than 452 :)
 
I can even do it with both hands at once
 
Don't lie Jon.
 
You just need to find a spacetime anomaly where a region of the universe butts up against its mirror image. Then you can properly clap one handed by high fiving your inverted self.
 
which is a “two handed one-hand clap”?
 
Note that this is distinct from high fiving yourself from an alternate universe that happens to be the mirror opposite of ours.
 
DSM
4:51 PM
boom
 
anti-matter and matter will cause a boom?
:D
 
Getting semantic satiation with this amount of "clap" usage.
 
I'm 90% sure that the mirror clap maneuver won't cause an antimatter explosion.
@RamchandraApte I'm getting there, too
 
as soon as anti-particle and a particle come into proximity they get lost / explode is what I read in a book.:D apparently not witnessed
 
DSM
4:54 PM
@Kevin: I had a friend in college who felt the same way. He's no longer my friend. Because we fell out of touch as the years passed? Because he tried it and took out half of the fourth floor of the D wing? Who can say?
 
True friendship transcends matter-antimatter annihilation.
 
they do or not?:D
 
5:10 PM
ooooooooops
 
Apparently they don't
 
I just unprotected a question somehow
 
I think Kevin just tried and got annihilated.
 
bloomin track pad
Appears the rule that "only the person that protected it or a moderator may unprotect a question" no longer exists
 
DSM
Those who want to be the next ruler of the stars should seize their opportunity during Kevin's no-doubt-brief absence.
3
 
5:18 PM
Now's the time to come up with something witty for star bait,,. alas, such a thing eludes me at present :(
 
Too late, I've recombobulated.
 
"What does Santa suffer from if he gets stuck in a chimney? " - "Claustrophobia!"
 
hohoho
 
"Why did the turkey join the band? " - "Because it had the drumsticks!"
"Which famous playwright was terrified of Christmas? " - "Noel Coward"
I'll stop now... I think torturing people is against quite a few international conventions...
 
it was... the nickelodeon video player .-.
 
5:27 PM
no korra spoilers plz
 
it's a good episode, hence why the video playback errors are so annoying
 
But yeah, their player is a butt. I can't even use it anymore because it wants me to enter my cable code, whatever that is.
Now I have to watch the episode through illegal alternative means
 
DSM
I was trying to think if I watched any Nick series, and I think the answer is no.
 
Missed out on the Spongebob phenomenon, eh?
 
DSM
Yep. I know it's a thing, and I think they have a show on ice, but that's about it.
 
5:40 PM
What if spiderman was afraid of newspapers, just like spiders would be, and that's the twist of Peter Parker working in a newspaper company?
 
DSM
Who needs Stan Lee? We have corvid.
 
Reminds me of the "what if Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive brown recluse?" comic
 
"Alright Parker, you need to send out these newspa--" "AH DON'T HIT ME! D:"
 
I'm very disappointed that no one in this post has made the "I'm not your buddy, guy! I'm not your guy, pal! I'm not your pal, friend!" South Park reference
 
5:58 PM
what an odd way to cast to tuple: bitbucket.org/zzzeek/alembic/src/…
 
DSM
Ah, the old use-sum-to-inefficiently-flatten trick.
 
@davidism very weird :)
 
I've used that technique before :-)
 
user559633
6:36 PM
@Kevin i think it's only offensive because i imagine the asker pointedly saying "guy"
 
user559633
and you could be that person! make that reference! it could be you
 
6:59 PM
i have an interview. What do?
 
do interview
 
7:35 PM
Tech support fixed my problem today :-)
Figuring out what was wrong: 5 days. Fixing the actual problem: 3 minutes. We're not so different, them and us.
@tristan mm hmm, I can definitely imagine that comment going badly if you don't get the tone just right
 
@Kevin Vetinari: "Please don't let me detain you"? :p
 
cbg again
 
cbg @Martijn
 
@Jon isn't it "Please don't make me detain you."?
 
bah.... one or t'other
 
7:42 PM
My coworker asks: "do Unix systems have case sensitive file names?"
 
yes they do
 
My coworker says, "hmm."
 
user559633
it's the filesystem
 
Thus concludes the chat-coworker correspondence. Thanks for your participation.
 
user559633
When a computer file system stores file names, the computer may keep or discard case information. When the case is stored, it is called case preservation. A system that is not case-preserving is necessarily case-insensitive, but it is possible and common for a system to be case-insensitive, yet case-preserving. This combination is often considered most natural for computer uses, because most people prefer using the correct capitalization but will still recognize others. For example, if someone refers to the "uNiTeD states oF AMERICA", it is understood to mean the United States of America, even...
 
7:46 PM
ext2,3,4, reiserfs, and xfs etc... the most common ones, are case sensitive
 
The only one of those acronyms I recognize is FAT32
And maybe NFTS. NFTS Special Victims Unit, airing weekdays on CBS.
 
DSM
Case can be weird on Macs, if memory serves.
 
user559633
yo momma so fat we needed to use extra bytes to represent her weight accurately
 
user559633
yeah, you can pick case sensitive or insensitive and poorly written software can get confused about case sensitivity (see photoshop)
 
yesterday I used two variable names ul and UL in one function and now I feel bad about it
it makes sense in context... Sort of.
 
user559633
7:52 PM
i used "we_atoned_for_the_sins_of_others" as a var name last time so i could write "if we_atoned_for_the_sins_of_others: "
 
if wishes_were_horses:
 
user559633
we'd never run out of glue?
 
Perhaps... I don't know enough about the horse->glue conversion process to confirm. There might be a catalyst that's in limited supply.
 
Aww... can I appoint myself the Vetinari of the room?
 
Only if you are simultaneously Gaspode, as established in our previous conversation.
I continue to carry out my Leonard of Quirm duties.
 
7:58 PM
that's a deal - woof!
 
Don't let me detain you -- except you should give the nice doggy a treat before leaving
 
Shotgun Vimes.
 
user559633
Shotgun "Shotgun Jones"
 
@Ffisegydd You do do a good job upholding order in an inherently chaotic system :-)
 
:D
 
user559633
8:01 PM
i haven't read any of the discworld
 
tristan you're Nobby Nobs.
 
We all have our pop culture blind spots. I still haven't seen a full James Bond film.
 
See. Now I have to give everyone else a character from Discworld.
Thanks...
 
Room lurkers: unnamed wizard extras from Unseen University. Help vampires: countless squamous creatures from the dungeon dimensions.
The troll who must not be named, lest he google himself and appear, can be Bel-Shamharoth.
 
user559633
ur nobby nobs
 
8:08 PM
<3
 
user559633
wait, isn't nobs from peep show?
 
user559633
dobbie. i was thinking of dobbie.
 
user559633
"Nobby Nobbs is the kind of person who joins the army to loot corpses." haha ouch
 
Hmm maybe you're not Nobby. I can't think of anyone that's an out-and-out bar steward though.
Oh. Wow. Yes.
tristan is Moist Von Lipwig.
 
:-)
 
8:15 PM
Need one for DSM.
 
8:32 PM
Ok. Preliminary.
Jon - Vetinari
Kevin - Leonard Of Quirm
Fizzy - Sam Vimes
davidism - Carrot Ironfoundersson
tristan - Moist von Lipwig
Robert Grant - Fred Colon
Intrepid - Nobby Nobbs
Corvid - Rincewind
Poke - Drumknott
Peter - Cohen the Barbarian
Martijn - Lu Tze
DSM - Munstrum Ridcully
Zero - Librarian
vaultah - Cheery Littlebottom
Games = Detritus
4
 
:-)
 
Is this method of commenting with a list PEP8 compliant? pastebin.com/ipMkM7Bd
 
Don't know, but it looks weird to me.
 
@Ffisegydd better? pastebin.com/JCBBa2MN
 
Better, but still not amazing. Just take the comment out of the dict.
 
8:37 PM
@Ffisegydd LOL - wonder how many people are going to protest? :p
 
I think they fit quite nicely actually :P
 
user3596998
Is there a list built-in function that can search against a list (considering there's only two lists) for a specific pattern by way of a regex?
 
I think you could justify putting the comment just after the report = {, since it's referring specifically to the first two entries.
Putting it in between those entries would be odd, though.
 
@LuisFelipe Not that I am aware of.
 
8:41 PM
@Ffisegydd I'd personally go for: gist.github.com/joncle/cb3b1f927828706bb7bb - but that's just my style
 
Ditto
 
user3596998
@K
 
user3596998
@Kevin thanks. What if I were to compare two text files. can I search againts one with a regex and group it with a match from the other file into a new outputfile? What loop would I use to accomplish this>
 
Not entirely sure what you're trying to do... Maybe the difflib module will be helpful.
 
user559633
yay for an upvote on an old answer stackoverflow.com/questions/25159270/…
 
user559633
9:11 PM
what's the term for a space/delimiter in a tokenizer? e.g. commas in a list
 
In case anyone is interested in the solution to my trimming white space issue
I've been searching for the past couple days.
It was cloudflare.
 
Nice, do they document that somewhere?
 
user559633
 
In a comment I wrote "the maximum value a long integer can hold is limited only by the size of your hard drive", but I'm second guessing myself now.
Is there an actual limit for longs?
 
size of ram and swap I guess
 
user559633
9:25 PM
IIRC there's a point in the handling of the mantissa that a long becomes a useless representation
 
I thought mantissas were only used for floats and doubles
In any case, yeah I probably should have said "RAM" and not "hard drive"
Of course, that's an implementation detail... KPython stores long ints on cuneiform tablets.
 
DSM
9:38 PM
Low density but highly durable. Can last for millennia!
 
user559633
oh you're right @Kevin, i had a brain fart
 
user559633
 
user559633
bring me on home lcd soundsystem
 
10:02 PM
Cabbage!
 
cbg @Fenikso!
 
@JonClements Cabbage Jon. Whats up lately?
 
same old same old :)
Yourself?
 
I finally got my Flask app working on Apach through WSGI. I feel powerful and geeky now :-D.
 
user559633
the live version is absolutely incredible youtube.com/watch?v=XwSVkhCNC2s
 
10:22 PM
Just got the Outspoken badge, but none of my messages are starred right now.
 
17
Q: Outspoken badge not awarded since June?

ProgramFOXToday I noticed that the Outspoken badge has not been awarded since June 15, 2014. That looks really weird because this is very unlikely. Did nobody meet the requirements for the badge after that date, or is this a bug?

 
user559633
I got mine in May
 
Wow, that's kinda dangerous for this room, since we unstar posts all the time.
 
Depends what the badge job runs... they'd not be much of a window for stars to not count to the badge progress before they're removed
 
I can now count myself among those who have said things to make 10 people mildly amused. Next: david "starbait" davidism
 
10:28 PM
lol
Wow... I got mine last March :)
 
I got mine just now too
 
@davidism did you see the discworld namings? :p
(blame Stewie!)
 
I'm deciding whether it's eerily accurate or not accurate at all.
either way, I like it :)
 
It is accurate :P
Well, some of them are a bit shoe-horned.
 
Kevin is so LoQ though :)
 
10:32 PM
After all, I have no idea if Zero is an orangutan or not.
 
and you're definitely Vimes :)
anyway... early night for me... rbrb for now
 
rbrb
 
11:19 PM
cbg
 
night all!
rhubarb and all
 
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