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DSM
5:00 PM
I'm a sucker for anthropomorphic representations of objects (airplanes, weaponry, and warships come to mind.)
 
Maybe it's me that's real, and everyone else that is fake. Psst, you're missing all your "star Kevin's posts" cues!
 
@Kevin ahh... what happened in your absence is that if anyone starred your posts, I'd put an alka-selzter in my mouth, then bite them, and say - haha, rabies for your sins!
 
DSM
@Jon: I think the starred list has gone crazy lately anyway. Fizzy's "0D is the best D" comment is so funny it should have 20 stars. (Okay, physics-funny.)
 
@DSM what are we if not geeks... it gets cleared up by @Peter so it remains in context
(ish)
wb @Nathvi
 
@Jon I know you're a bit of a fan of the lady singers ... this float your boat?
 
5:06 PM
I do like Krall, yes :)
 
(via Boingboing, but their embedded YT vid wouldn't play for me)
Never heard her before; I'm a Waits fan anyway so was bound to be into that one; will have to look for more.
 
@Zero I enjoy this from time to time... quite like Lady Antebellum
I love jazz and blues, but I'm ultimately a more fan of lyricists and pianists
 
Heheheh ... yeah, it's probably a decent song, but an ex had a habit of latching onto a song and playing it over and over and over, and that one got the treatment, so I pretty much can't listen to it now.
 
There's probably three songs I can't listen to now because of that
All played at my mother's funeral - they use to be happy dancing/fond memory songs, and still are in some ways... but songs have a way of bringing back memories that although always welcome, aren't quite needed sometimes :)
 
user559633
5:21 PM
 
SO looks down.
Just when I made a comment that might not have been technically correct, so I wanted to delete it! Now millions of people will see it and know I'm fallible.
 
@davidism Damn you've really done well with your webfaction affiliate link haven't you? 5 years!
 
Nah, I just bought 5 years, the affiliate link has never paid off.
It's really cheap.
 
:P
 
5:36 PM
What I have done is but again it is now what I need - why have you done it then? — vaultah 7 mins ago
Because if the OP had posted no code at all, we'd say "show us what you've done so far"
 
It is far from clear what the OP wants.
 
Sheesh. Somebody answered it.
Lol, one-space indentation
 
Gotta love regex answers given to total newbies. "I heard you like learning languages, so here, learn this language so you can learn that language"
4
 
Kasra rings a bell - seem them to answer a lot (not with great answers mind you) recently
 
I hate Sundar's answers
He's also a tag regular, also giving low quality answers
 
5:49 PM
And back. Was nervously hovering around QA to see if my software passed the tests
 
@IntrepidBrit Have you listened to youtube.com/watch?v=-H_psPVLk-8?
 
@vaultah yeah same :<
 
@MartijnPieters I've seen it being floated around, but I'm not sure I will consider American opinion unbiased on politics :)
 
how to remove duplicates from list the most efficiently but keeping the first appearances in order?
 
Not to say that they're incapable, but they don't like how we do things as a general rule of thumb.
 
5:52 PM
@IntrepidBrit no one is unbiased.
 
@IntrepidBrit what made me laugh was threatening to not pay the 4billion pounds owed by Scotland
 
But the reporter does a good job of explaining the current issues.
 
@JonClements Well, by (unsigned) International Law, they're not obligated to
 
if I was offered such a threat and was the country making the trillion pounds a year
 
IF, Scotland seceeds, which is the legal definition of what's happening
 
5:53 PM
I'd be more like, yeah, whatever, keep it
 
user559633
"American take on the Scottish referendum with NO MEDIA BIAS." oh good, i was wondering where ALL AMERICA ended up on this
 
@MartijnPieters I will give it the time of day
 
ah, one Finn ruining the day for the Scotch
 
As an American, I can say I have no bias on the issue, because I'm not even aware of it.
4
 
well, I guess we'll know two weeks today
oh wait, is it the 15th/18th?
 
5:54 PM
Yeah, that's some serious lack of bias there :-/
 
Even while we talk about it, the text I read goes in and out of my head without any intermediary processing. When I finish submitting this post, I will have no memory of it.
 
DSM
That's not what you said last time.. <rimshot>
 
@MartijnPieters I have seen a ton of flask/json questions in the last few days. Guess everyone realized the value of REST at the same time.
 
@davidism recency effect perhaps? I can't say I've seen an uptick, really.
 
@MartijnPieters I might have to stop listening. If he's unbiased, he's definitely missing a lot of facts in favour of the YES campaign
 
5:57 PM
Yeah, I doubt there's actually more, just started noticing them all of a sudden.
 
@IntrepidBrit I'd skip over the 'not biased' part, whomever slapped that on is conveniently forgetting their own bias.
 
I know it's not PC to ask about one's voting... but which way are you going for @IntrepidBrit?
 
I'm a firm NO, but I'm not opposed to YES
 
My bias: my wife is Scottish, and after initial swinging between both sides she is now distinctly leaning towards 'yes'.
way too broad.
 
DSM
How is the question asked? Is "YES" a vote for independence, or to preserve the union?
 
5:59 PM
YES to independence
 
@DSM YES is independence.
 
I prefer NO, if YES implies that Scotland will physically separate from the rest of the island and drift through the Atlantic. That presents a hazard to the American eastern seaboard.
 
DSM
@Kevin: starbait. :P
 
@DSM I should star your message instead.
 
Basically, if Scotland is going to be mini-Britain, I'd rather keep bigger Britain thanks
 
user559633
6:00 PM
Wee Britain 2
 
Because we can take on bigger challenges than we could separately
 
Another sopython-closed-question
 
such as spelling "separately" correctly you scally wag? :)
 
@Kevin It'll hit Canada rather than the US, so there is nothing to worry about there.
 
user559633
6:01 PM
Why little Britain and not Other Ireland
 
@DSM "starbait" is Kevin Kevinson's middle name.
 
But if the new Scottish state was going to be significantly different - ie) Actual media reform, digital and human rights reform, government reform (ie, what's the current second house of Scotland?)
 
The worst case scenario is, it gets carried by a counterclockwise current towards the Mediterranean.
 
user559633
And as an American, I have no bias on the issue, nor any strong opinion because I don't have the information I'd need.
 
etc etc. All they're offering is a smaller UK, with LOWER corporation tax, higher spending and a higher reliance on oil...
 
6:02 PM
It gums up the Strait of Gibraltar, and the sea dries up due to the new natural dam.
 
At which point it's too late to start an oil fund for...
@JonClements (Thanks, separately is one I always misspell)
 
The Stone Raft (Portuguese: A Jangada de Pedra) is a novel by Nobel Prize in Literature-winning Portuguese writer José Saramago. It was written in 1986, and was translated into English in 1994. The basic premise of the novel is that the Iberian Peninsula has broken off the European continent and is floating freely in the Atlantic Ocean; bureaucrats around the world are forced to deal with the traumatic effects, while five characters from across Portugal and Spain are drawn ever closer to one another, embarking on a journey within the peninsula as the landmass journeys itself. It was made into a...
 
DSM
As a brogue-free first-generation member of the Scottish diaspora: I don't know what to think. But I'm descended from people who left, and I didn't think Brave was as good as it could've been, so it's hard to know where my biases lie.
 
@MartijnPieters Wow. This guy is ignorant
 
@ZeroPiraeus Haha. He stole the idea I just had! Except he thought of it 28 years before I did.
That's some kind of reverse-chronological double plagiarism.
 
6:05 PM
@IntrepidBrit I assume that about all journalists.
 
@MartijnPieters Unfortunately
 
I'm all for the referendum... and hope the Scots choose what they feel is best... I just doubt this is the best economic climate for Scotland to do so
 
@Kevin Reminds me of the "The Secret Window"
 
@MartijnPieters Hahahahahahaha. Oh god. The bias. My sides
 
DSM
Has anyone used autobahn or crossbar for anything? I'm relatively new to this web stuff and I sort of expected everything to already be WAMPy. Was quite surprised that wasn't already standard somehow.
 
6:07 PM
@DSM have used autobahn
balls... brb
 
@MartijnPieters If I can ask, what're her reasons for wanting Independence?
 
@JonClements No time is ever perfect for momentous decisions like this, but the SNP had wanted for a long time for it to coincide with the tricentenary of the Acts of Union ... just before the global crash. That would have been interesting ...
 
DSM
@Jon: how well did it work in practice?.. and he's off.
 
@DSM oh worked out... used it with Twisted on 2.7, but works nicely with 3.4 and the asyncio stuff
won't be long
 
@JonClements I mean, that's what most people South of the border have said to me, but within the Nationalists circles, it's been interpreted differently and quite negatively
 
6:09 PM
I hope Scotland go independent just so I can make lots of Independence Day jokes to @IntrepidBrit.
 
@IntrepidBrit she perceives there is a certain 'patting on the head' attitude from Westminster. There there, now go vote no, coz you cannot possibly go it alone. A disconnect.
Not the only reason, but certainly playing a large role.
 
DSM
Condescension and correctness are compatible..
 
@MartijnPieters From my vantage point far, far away, the No campaign does seem to have been spectacularly cack-handed.
 
@MartijnPieters As someone who's spent a lot of time in England, I don't feel that is the case. It's more down to the fact that Scotland has been traditionally labour, so they get ignored. After all, politicians go for swing contituencies
 
@ZeroPiraeus That's playing too; the campaign seems to want to play on everyone's fears rather than on the things that could be accomplished together.
 
6:11 PM
@Martijn well... I can see it perceived as such... but Scotland gets a lot of money from the union, and benefits that the other nations don't enjoy - which the other nations sponsor... so while it might be able to stand alone, in no way can it be viable enough to still do what it is doing without the union
 
@JonClements She accepts that in the short run, things may well be off worse for a while.
 
DSM
When I was younger it astonished me that the federalists were so hamhanded and yet Quebec never quite managed to leave. Eventually I figured out what game the Quebecois were playing. Not sure if there's a sizable soft-nationalist group in Scotland playing the same game or not.
 
free prescriptions, free uni education? Nope... that'll have to come out of Scotlands own tax
 
@MartijnPieters So, Scotland gets ignored by the Tories (why should they bother? The Scottish in general will never vote for them) AND by Labour, who are guaranteed their votes regardless? It's self defeating
 
Anyway... I'm definitely off for a bit... rbrb for now - I'll catch up on this discussion later :)
 
6:13 PM
@IntrepidBrit When independent, that'll at least change.
 
Also off (to buy a heater) - rbrb
 
I am still neutral on the whole thing; or at least I try to be.
 
DSM
Also off (to tell food to get in my belly) #aptquote
 
@ZeroPiraeus @MartijnPieters It's become negative because the nationalists are turning it that way. For example: big reason for the Union (a positive reason) is "Stability"
 
Le sigh, websockets are dead again.
 
6:14 PM
Immediate response: if it's so stable? why do we have foodbanks?
 
user559633
I'm waiting for the Ukraine referendum to hear if they plan on being independent of Russia
 
They haven't exactly got much choice the way it looks
 
Immediately on the backfoot on a negative topic. Notice that if it's something positive about the union, the topic gets changed to something negative.
@JonClements It'll be fine, but people just have to realise that taxes will have to go up to cover the regular annual costs of the country, and that oil will have to be treated as a "Brucy bonus", especially if we Sterlingize
 
Ultimately, it's easier to soundbyte and sound good if you're going for Independence. The full answers and minute detail aren't, so can't be grasped so easily
 
user559633
6:32 PM
Python has made me so spoiled. Swift people are so excited to have tuples. Tuples.
 
Heh
 
I was reading through the Swift manual and I kept saying "man this is so much like Python, it's great"
I looked through some of the old Objective-C syntax and it's terrifying
 
My coworker pointed out that the reason Node.js might be popular is that it looks like Java but seems like magic to Java developers.
I guess the same thing happened with Swift.
 
Star Wars Battlefront II is SUCH A GOOD GAEMB
 
It seems to me like they just created a higher-level language that can directly convert to Objective-C, and that's Swift
 
6:36 PM
Interesting, restarting Chrome got me me websockets back.
 
As long as it's all compiled at the end of the day and not interpreted, there's not really any issue in doing that, good move Apple
 
@vaultah aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
super weird syntax
 
How can I read a txt file from the Internet to my python program?
 
6:42 PM
He's including an if-else in the tuple he's yielding in this custom iterator
 
"Error message will be pasted as comment shortly". What the... Why not put it in the post?
 
@user2219896 I would think you could just use open and substitute the file URL where the path would go?
 
@TheSoundDefense Hmm. I thought I need some urllib.
 
@user2219896 it's possible I don't know what I'm talking about
 
The built-in open is a lovely function, but I don't think it can do URLs.
 
6:44 PM
Nvm then
 
>>> open("www.google.com")
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'www.google.com'
urllib.urlopen ought to work, though.
>>> import urllib
>>> response = urllib.urlopen("http://www.google.com").read()
>>> print len(response)
18701
 
import urllib
url = "http://reaktor.fi/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fast_track_generoitu_nimilista.txt"
response = urllib.urlopen(url).read()
print(response)

python3.4 parit2.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "parit2.py", line 3, in <module>
response = urllib.urlopen(url).read()
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'urlopen'
jaakko@jaakko-Aspire-E1-572:~/programming$ python3.4 parit2.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "parit2.py", line 3, in <module>
response = urllib.urlopen(url).read()
 
Shame on you Kevin for assuming Python 2 :)
 
whoops.
I guess it's urllib.request.urlopen now
 
Or requests if you're able to install something from PYPI
 
6:52 PM
>>> import urllib.request
>>> response = urllib.request.urlopen("http://www.google.com").read()
>>> print len(response)
  File "<stdin>", line 1
    print len(response)
            ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>> #oops
>>> print(len(response))
18785
RIP print statement
le print est mort; vive le print()
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import urllib.request
url = "http://reaktor.fi/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fast_track_generoitu_nimilista.txt"
response = urllib.request.urlopen(url).read()
print(response)

jaakko@jaakko-Aspire-E1-572:~/programming$ python3.4 parit2.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "parit2.py", line 3, in <module>
response = urllib.request.urlopen(url).read()
File "/usr/lib/python3.4/urllib/request.py", line 153, in urlopen
return opener.open(url, data, timeout)
File "/usr/lib/python3.4/urllib/request.py", line 461, in open
 
Looks like you're forbidden.
 
I'm forbidden too :(
It checks for specific headers?
 
> Status code 403 responses are the result of the web server being configured to deny access, for some reason.
"For some reason." very informative, Wikipedia, thanks a bunch.
 
I can see the file from WWW-browser so maybe I should copy it manually to my computer.
 
6:57 PM
Perhaps only logged on users can access that page. Perhaps whether you're logged on or not is dependent on a cookie in your browser. Perhaps there's a Python module that lets you provide cookies when you make url requests.
I don't know any of these for sure, as I am a simple desktop developer. But I can dream.
 
You need to set a user agent.
Then the URL works just fine.
 
@user2219896 That would probably be easier :-)
 
>>> r = requests.get('http://reaktor.fi/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fast_track_generoitu_nimilista.txt')
>>> r
<Response [403]>
>>> r = requests.get('http://reaktor.fi/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fast_track_generoitu_nimilista.txt', headers={'User-Agent': 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/37.0.2049.0 Safari/537.36'})
>>> r
<Response [200]>
 
(assuming you only need to do it once. If this is a "run every day with a new text file" thing, then doing it programmatically is easier)
 
That's with requests, but the same applies to urllib.request.
 
6:59 PM
I was right! Whoohoo.
 
The site is being sniffy about robots and blocks anything with a useragent not on its whitelist.
I used useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php to pick a user agent string, in case you are looking for an easy string to copy.
urllib.request version:
>>> import urllib.request
>>> req = urllib.request.Request('http://reaktor.fi/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fast_track_generoitu_nimilista.txt', headers={'User-Agent': 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/37.0.2049.0 Safari/537.36'})
>>> r = urllib.request.urlopen(req)
>>> r.getcode()
200
 
Nice.
 
The response content type is just text/plain with no charset indicated.
In HTTP terms that means you must assume Latin-1, but the text is clearly using UTF-8 instead.
Although the UTF-8 decode gives me a Mojibake still..
ah, yes, it is a Mojibake, encode to Latin1, decode from UTF-8 to repair.
ah, no, taking that back.
I used r.text and it used Latin-1 to decode because no charset is set.
slaps forehead.
 
(b'_')b
 
Looks a bit advanced to me.
 
7:08 PM
print(r.read().decode('utf8')) for the urllib.request version and you are good to go.
@user2219896 All I am doing is adding one request header.
Setting the User-Agent header to whatever a modern browser would use.
 
bed time, rbrb all
 
It works although I'm using Linux instead of Windows.
 
The web server doesn't need to know that ;-D
 
the default is python-requests/2.2.1 CPython/3.4.0 Darwin/13.2.0 for requests, Python-urllib/3.4 for urllib.request.
The web server doesn't care if you use Windows or Linux. It only looks at the value of User-Agent and returns a 403 if that string is not matching certain criteria.
They are probably just looking for the word Mozilla at the start or similar.
Yup, {'User-Agent': 'Mozilla'} works too.
dinnertime.
rhubarb all!
 
DSM
7:24 PM
Water was not falling from the sky when I left. Water was falling from the sky when I wanted to return. I should've thought more about that possibility.
 
That's what Bayesian inference is for
 
DSM
Stupid frequentism! Got me soaked.
 
7:42 PM
Not to worry. People are mostly waterproof anyway.
 
DSM
Did the puppy leave?
 
Yes, his last message was "Anyway... I'm definitely off for a bit... rbrb for now - I'll catch up on this discussion later :)"
 
cbg
umm... might have just done a "speak of the devil" pop up there
 
DSM
7:57 PM
♫ return of the mutt ♫ once again ♫ return of the mutt ♫ top of the world ♫
 
Mutt!? Mutt!? Good sir, I'll let you know I'm a mutated freak of a puppy - not a "Mutt" spits
 
Ah ha. Keynesian beauty contest. That's the name of the thing that I couldn't remember the name of a few months ago. Mystery solved.
 
DSM
Hey, I had to use a thesaurus to come up with another word starting with "M" which meant dog. All things considered, I'm pretty pleased.
Anyway, Jon, can I ask a followup autobahn question?
 
yup
(I might have meant "yap" - but I'm pretending to be human)
 
Next up, I have to remember the word that I couldn't remember from this morning. Since then, I've also forgotten the meaning of the word.
 
DSM
8:00 PM
Did you use it on its own or with twisted klein?
 
A word with no name and no definition. Either I'm terribly forgetful, or a secret zen master.
I think there was an E in it.
 
@DSM with twisted...
 
Effervescence has a few ...
 
If I can ever find it, or get around to re-writing it in the next few days, it was the base behind PythonCabbage/R.A.B.B.I.T
 
DSM
Were you using it just for comm or did your service have an associated frontend?
 
8:03 PM
Well.. no front-end directly.. now it'd run as a service that fed the sopython.com database, and the front-end dev/interaction would be from there...
 
8:26 PM
Why is not out dammit! store.steampowered.com/app/65980
taps claws
 
cabbage friends!!!
 
8:38 PM
cbg @Patrick
 
cbg
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/25631952/… This is the question I was thinking of earlier that everybody asks
 
9:07 PM
Well, that's my good deed for the day: just saved someone from buying a Moto X two days before its successor is launched :-)
 
How do I take %u2660 and turn it into it's ?ascii? format in python?
I am not sure if ascii is the right word here
 
@Johnston do you mean â™  (U+2660)? That doesn't have an ASCII equivalent.
 
I mean how to I turn it into that spade from u+2660?
 
chr(0x2660)
 
How about for the whole string if it has it in it?
"Today I picked up a %u2660"
 
9:20 PM
Or '\u2660' ...
 
Umm... haven't we already had this spade debate... I'm sure I read it in the transcript the other day (or have I suddenly developed the ability to foresee chat events?)
 
print u"Today I picked up a \u2660"  # 2.x
print("Today I picked up a \u2660")  # 3.x
Ah, I may have missed that. Okay, I hereby retract all of the above ...
Two good deeds in one day was a little excessive anyway ...
I'll have to go find a small child and stamp on their toys or something.
 
@Zero or just tease a cute yellow puppy with the promise of bacon sandwiches
... which still hasn't arrived btw
 
it'll probably be cold by now
 
9:27 PM
I imagine it'll be worse than cold at this point ...
 
or a strange greeny colour
 
Ketchup is, after all, basically mould food.
 
Wat? You turned southerner on me? Brown sauce FTW!
 
Oh, to find a bottle of brown sauce on this benighted continent ...
HP obviously.
 
I have bottles of HP and Daddy's :)
 
9:29 PM
Good evening
 
@Demnogonis and to you... or as we say, cabbage ;)
 
Wotcha @Demnogonis :-)
 
@Demnogonis never mind @Zero - think he just thinks he's Tonks from Harry Potter :)
 
@JonClements Yes I saw that earlier... Why exactly cabbage for hello and rhubarb for good bye?
 
wb @user2219896
 
9:31 PM
what wb means?
 
@Demnogonis I would argue the point of why have the "salad" language at all - the answer is probably "just because" :p
@user2219896 "welcome back"
 
ah, ok
thanks
 
@JonClements ahh :D I guessed that^^
Anyway
does anyone use sublime text with the anaconda plugin for python development?
 
I use ST - don't have the anaconda plugin though... so err, not sure I'll be of any use if you have a question regarding it
 
Hmm. I think I won't get a programming job
 
9:36 PM
@user2219896 with that attitude you definitely won't :)
 
I just installed it and there now are some dots next to some of the line numbers. And I don't know what they are meaning...
 
true
 
@Demnogonis usually that's a way of indicating break points
 
yes I know but I haven't set any
 
9:37 PM
oh... definitely not break points... and different sized dots
that's err... interesting
 
are there debuggers to run python code line by line?
 
@user2219896 pdb ?
 
Can Eclipse with PyDev do that?
 
my thoughts exactly :D I couldn't find some documentation about that so far
ahhh I got it
 
Are there trailing spaces?
 
9:40 PM
yup
 
and one of those lines also has mismatched parentheses
The one with the bigger dot
 
yes
interesting way of showing errors
 
Wouldn't have expected the dots
I'd have thought the outlining was sufficient
 
the size of the dot showcases the amount of errors in that line
 
I'd just assume that stuff in the left margin were break points of markers or something related - not that
 
9:44 PM
yes it's a weird way of showing errors
it may be windows specific
 
Ha! Watching a Feynman lecture on gravity - he's just come to Newton vs. the precession of Mercury: "I will not discuss the modification in detail; it was made by Einstein" :-D
 
@Demnogonis oh well... mystery solved :)
 
hehe yes :D
 
did anybody have already used sentry?
 
10:04 PM
How do I turn this: %u2660 into this:â™  in python?
 
Is that a real percent character?
 
as apposed to a fake percent? what do you mean?
 
Okay, I'll rephrase - where is %u2660 coming from?
 
i think he meant \u
so if you do u'\u2660' it will print that character u want
if that's your question
 
I am a little confused... Give me a second
Sometimes it just takes @JonClements to say that something doesn't make sense for it to suddenly make sense
 
10:15 PM
lucky I'm highly qualified in saying things that don't make sense then? :p
 
I think you know when something doesn't look right.
I think I am highly qualified in saying things that don't make sense
 
is it just me, or there's someone with the filezilla logo as his avatar?
 
@Patrick if you're referring to @Zero - it's similar but not the FileZilla logo :)
 
@JonClements yeah, I just checked. Very similar. lol
 
@PatrickBassut Blimey, that's a bit of a leap - it's red/white and has a z in it.
 
10:26 PM
@PatrickBassut look what you've done now - you've awoken the evil Z demon!
 
@JonClements oh shit. mama always talked about it
 
@Patrick and I bet you then thought it was just something she told you so that'd you behave, right?
 
@JonClements yeeah. But it was true. Damn it
 
@Patrick you may appease the demon by making it and the cute yellow puppy bacon sandwiches
 
Apparently Filezilla as a project has existed since 2001 (the logo I've no idea). I've used this exact shape of Z as a logo intermittently since at least ten years before that (though the colour scheme is fairly new).
 
10:29 PM
@Zero the first time I saw it, my first thought was: "that's a weird way of doing a sigma"
 
grr, snarl er what? bacon? Oh ok then :-)
 
(bear in mind I was stepping away from the screen so was only seeing the avatar drop down as I left)
 
I can't disagree with you there though ... it is a weird way of doing a sigma ;-)
 
@JonClements oh, come on, no puppies. Couldn't that be lettuce?
 
but doing things normally is usually boring
 
10:32 PM
@ZeroPiraeus you could say they stole your logo then
 
@Demnogonis surely you must have realised by now that we're very perfectly normal individuals that do things the normal way
 
@ZeroPiraeus actually, if you look carefully you only used the same amount of red and white. Silly me to think it was similar
 
@Patrick did you count the pixel histogram or something? :)
 
@JonClements i'm a computer, dude.
 
@JonClements It wasn't that obvious but yes :D
 
10:36 PM
@JonClements it's just because you use filezilla but you don't care about it's logo. So, if you saw the nazi flag, you might think it's the same. (OVERREACTING ALERT!)
 
I think more people are aware of historical references regarding war on the planet rather than an ftp client logo :)
 
hm... almost 1 AM. I should go to bed
rhubarb all
 
@Demnogonis rbrb... see ya laters
 
Since my monogram is being discussed, I'd be interested to know how legible this is to anyone who doesn't already know what it says:
FFS, SO chat won't accept SVG. Hang on ...
 
etiol?
 
10:50 PM
Yep - is that from reading it, or remembering my email address?
 
well the tio is okay.. the E (bit splattered) and the L (looks a bit one-ish)... but for some reason it just rang a bell
 
@ZeroPiraeus Could read it too, but did not know your email
 
DSM
There was a period during my youth when I would write "E" as three horizontal lines because I thought it looked futuristic and cool.
 
I can see what you mean ... idea with the E and l is to convey motion.
 
heya @Raoul - you snuck in there...
@Zero like the E, not sure about the L
 
10:52 PM
@JonClements hiya
 
(also every letter can be made by removing and/or translating bits of the Z, which pleases me)
 
@Zero whatever turns you on buddy :p
 
DSM
Your Z square is nice.
 
/me changes room topic to: Welcome to praise each others' avatar day!
 
btw, what's with the dog @JonClements? I know that dog from somewhere
 

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