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4:01 PM
Or at least I think that I took a similar implementation. Basically I created an session level scoped task factory which manipulates an iobservablecollection and is running as long as a session is active. If anything changes in the collection then the client gets notified. They still have to have an active client side websocket running though.
 
interesting
in win8, with the new MS.Websockets nuget package, its a piece of cake to write your own handler
 
Seems odd for microsoft to say "the OS doesn't let you use websockets here", when browsers running within that OS can still use websockets. It's all just ordinary TCP shit, right?
 
@Mike yep.
yeah its definitely weird that the implementation code would be locked away in the OS for something that is specifically a web technology
anywho, off to mein Deutschkurs
 
course
 
@ton.yeung maybe you forgot to update the amazing thing you did since last time
@ton.yeung maybe if you attach a yellow star with a Qualified tag on it
They have a new thing they call a Resume.. wth is it...
 
4:21 PM
@ton - I considered making a website for placing resumes. It would have social networking aspects involved, and allow you to link to other people who had posted their resumes. Sort of a place to keep you in the loop. I was going to call it LoopdIn.
 
sounds unique
 
@ton - That could be one route to go. The thing is, I don't think the site would ever work. I mean, who would use something like that?
 
@ton.yeung speak for YOURSELF
 
What other service?
No way, someone copied my idea!
gahh, that is just the way the world works I guess. Maybe we aren't ready for loopdin
 
Any of y'all big R# users?
 
4:27 PM
I am not even a small R# user
 
I do know one thing about it... it makes my solution load time longer ;)
@ton.yeung At 13 project in this solution right now ;)
 
@ton.yeung 43? that needed to be comp. each time?
 
@ton.yeung Made a typo....
s/solutions/projects/
 
we have about 40 solutions, some with as many as 50 projects
@ton.yeung we do a lotta things
most are under 10 projects
but the one I work on the most... I added the 50th project
 
Any recommended reads for onion architecture? I see a blog series by Jeffrey Palermo...
 
4:34 PM
@ton.yeung it's not that bad :)
 
Hehe, sounds like a good resource then ;)
 
2 1/2 hours on the phone. Ugh
 
@KendallFrey is your girl out of prison yet?
 
So I have a nuget question.
I installed a package in project A, which is a dependency of project B. Project B would not build until I added a reference to the package to it. Is this normal?
 
@ton.yeung 900 Service is Cheaper then Microsoft tech calls
@KendallFrey EF does it all the time
 
4:36 PM
@KendallFrey yeah
 
Well, that's fucked up.
 
they just had a techmet on nuget - and the new one will auto install anything that is not in the dev pc on load that nuget can auto find
not package restore - it just finds them and install them
so if you dont have json add on it will auto add it to the pc w/out u doing anything
the ref to the dll has the info (guessing)
 
Aside: package restore is pretty awesome...
 
just the missing one that is what he did in the demo
 
@ton.yeung I just used it on my lastest "project" (ehem... if you can call 100 lines a project) github.com/japanjeff/MarkItDown
 
4:41 PM
@ton.yeung ya it was 12.X.1 is what he was running
 
Ended up writing it since we have no documentation systems in place... at all...
 
@JeffBridgman common - we don't have one - everyone just asks me
 
@JeffBridgman I'm a R# user, btw ;)
 
ya I should have started making one like decades ago
And our process changes based on what we are working on (23 different ways to do the same thing)
 
kendall.Opinion["Reed Copsey"]--
 
4:44 PM
because of R#?
 
but why?
 
kendall.Opinion["ReSharper"] == -1
 
I highly customize it - but it's actually pretty useful once you're used to it
R# mixed with stylecop can dramatically speed dev up if you've got stylecop rules in your project, for example
 
R# is both annoying and good ime. I'm a user.
 
4:46 PM
(I have almost all of the code suggestions/warnings disabled, though)
 
Code analysis is more then enough for me.
 
R# is great - but the defaults aren't so good - it takes time to get to know how to use it effectively, and to customize it to be worthwhile, but then it can be a pretty good productivity tool
code analysis doesn't actually correct, though
@ton.yeung You'd probably be horrified in some respects ;)
 
@ton.yeung He doesn't do things. They just magically happen.
 
Live templates and the testrunner are good
 
@ton.yeung Hehe, I grew up in Japan and japanjeff isn't usually taken.... it's been a convenient alias online.
 
4:48 PM
He's not "the Dos Equis man".
 
@ton.yeung I did a mix. Learned Japanese sink-or-swim style by getting tossed into Japanese preschool. Did Japanese public school through 6th grade, English home-school for middle school, and then international boarding school for high school.
Nice :)
 
@ton.yeung @JeffBridgman Yes I did.
I loved it over there.
If I could master the language I'd move back.
@ton.yeung True, true.
Really?
Honestly, I'd like to move to Hong Kong or Tokyo. I'd even settle for Thailand.
 
@ton.yeung Cool stuff... yea, three writing systems is kind of tough :P
I grew up in western Honshu (main island) of Japan. I was born in Hiroshima prefecture and grew up in Okayama.
NO kidding. Luckily there's a good sized Laotian/Vietnamese population in my area so I do have some Asian food markets, just not much Japanese stuff.
@ton.yeung Yea, we're the other end of Japan, so I don't think they even felt it.
 
@ton.yeung Really? Seems neat-
@JeffBridgman Yeah, they are reliant on coal still over there correct?
 
I'm in Seattle, so there's all sorts of awesome Asian food here :)
 
5:00 PM
@ton.yeung Yea, that's correct.
 
this was flagged, but it is kind of funny i.stack.imgur.com/fn6NO.gif
 
@ton.yeung Thailand.
 
@TravisJ flagged? why?
 
Who knows
 
@Pheonixblade9 Let's go get Asian Food after Code Camp.
 
5:01 PM
@Greg we can go to the international district
 
haha
 
or whatever
 
@Pheonixblade9 Okay, sounds good.
 
we have to try and drag @ReedCopsey along too
 
@Pheonixblade9 Def.
@JeffBridgman Yeah, I grew up in Okinawa and Kirishima (near).
 
5:03 PM
@Pheonixblade9 I'm not sure I'll be able to - I'm not actually sure I can stay all day for CodeCamp :(
 
@ReedCopsey Really? Why?
 
@ReedCopsey I'll probably leave after hearing your thing and a couple others unless there's something I REALLY want to hear in the afternoon
 
I don't even have the schedule anymore; I'll have to check. What is in the afternoon?
 
@Greg Cool stuff, never really been down that way. What was in Kirishima? Okinawa makes it sound like your parents were in the military, but Kirishima is throwing me off ;)
 
@Greg I need to get back up to Bellingham - my wife has something in the early evening, and our sitter fell through
 
5:04 PM
@ReedCopsey Oh, bummer-
 
its okay - still going to come down and hang out for a large part of it
just not sure when I'll have to leave
 
@JeffBridgman My dad was in the military, my mom was a teacher.
 
well, we can grab lunch nearby
KOREAN BBQ!!!
 
heh - they often have food there (not sure if they will this year)
because the talks span over lunch time
 
@JeffBridgman When he went to Desert Storm we relocated for a bit; so we could soak up more culture.
@Pheonixblade9 Sounds cool with me. @ReedCopsey I thought they said the lunch was catered?
 
5:06 PM
@ton.yeung Korean BBQ here isn't the same as real Korean BBQ, but it is still very good
if lunch is catered, I suppose I'll stick around for that :P
@Greg it is going to be weird meeting you, you look exactly like a friend of mine from college
 
@Pheonixblade9 Yeah, I believe they said it was catered.
 
@Greg Soaking up culture FTW :)
 
@Pheonixblade9 I've got a beard right now, I'm going for a lumber jack look.
@JeffBridgman I actually love the culture.
 
@Greg Yeah - they're bringing in food
 
@Greg I do too, not entirely sure about the work culture though... that's really my only fear of moving back out there. I'm fine with the language, but I don't exactly want to be a workaholic.
 
5:10 PM
@JeffBridgman what do you mean? Working till 10pm every day is great for your health!
yeah!!
I've heard a lot of SEA has a pretty intense workaholic culture...SKorea, Japan, Hong Kong
 
@JeffBridgman Yeah, I hear you there.
 
*yea!*
But I wouldn't mind getting to a place that has a bit more access to Japanese food and stuff, like Seattle ;)
 
:) Seattle is awesome dude. I've never been to a place I would rather live
 
Visual Studio crashed on Find all references :(
m_WidgetModel.ID = Me.ID
 
@Pheonixblade9 Portland :)
@Pheonixblade9 The traffic and idiot drivers there make me want to shoot myself in the face.
I will say I've been to Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, Dallas, Austin, New York City, San Francisco, L.A., Atlanta- Out of all those places I'd have to say Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco were the best.
 
5:17 PM
@kush will the search at the top of VS give you the same results?
Will give you a click link but not in the same or refractoring
 
Portland is pretty cool, but I like Seattle better :)
I'd like to visit SF
maybe I'll take a couple days of vacation and drive down
 
@juanvan search at top?
 
upper right
 
I've been to 5 continents, and I think living in Santa Barbara is better than vacationing anywhere else
 
@Pheonixblade9 Maybe you could tag along with me; I have family down there.
 
5:19 PM
whoo, free hotel!
:P
I have a great aunt I've never met down there
 
I actually lived in San Fran, plus my family lives an hour and a half our of city. I do have family still in San Jose also.
 
Egypt
 
@Pheonixblade9 where? can I come?
 
@kush no! :P
actually, south africa is a consideration, too
my stepdad is from there, I could stay with family and friends of his no problem
 
@juanvan no results
 
5:21 PM
Cairo and Luxor
 
Am I doing it right?
 
@ton.yeung Really, that is cool.
 
@kush ya -
 
@juanvan external component has thrown an exception
 
@ton.yeung He works for Cisco.
 
5:24 PM
@ton - Haha, I have been to the luxor in vegas too :P But in Egypt I went to the great pyramids, the sphinx, the valley of the kings, the queens pyramid, king tuts tomb, the museum and a few other places
 
I guess I need to disable addons?
 
ya see if it does it
 
@ton.yeung Maybe, would be a sweet gig.
 
> Windows is checking for a solution to the problem.
I feel guilty to select cancel
 
@kush could happen -
 
5:29 PM
Is this a known issue with find all references of Me.Propertyin a large solution?
 
@Pheonixblade9 Where in south africa?
 
@Reed - It is surrounding Lesotho
 
@kush The solution explorer search isn't reliable for finding text in files
 
@ReedCopsey in southern africa.
 
5:31 PM
@TravisJ I meant where in south africa ;)
lol
 
@ReedCopsey here's what someone said about this topic
 
:P
 
> When checked a search for any item whose toolip is longer than the width of the results box when hovered over causes the IDE to crash.
 
(I've been to South Africa - I know where it is :D )
 
:P
my stepdad grew up in somerset west near capetown
 
the capetown area is awesome
it seems like a fairly nice area to live
 
@ton.yeung when's the second part coming out?
 
@ton - Such a great movie
 
@ton.yeung lol - very different than district 9 (thankfully), though some of the areas look a hell of a lot like that movie
 
Is it worth using the Authentication System that is included in .NET; or should I build my own?
 
5:34 PM
District 9 is a lot closer to Johannesburg
 
@Greg - Or unless it is New Years.
 
@juanvan seems like an issue known since 2005. :( chrison.net/IssueIdentifiedCrashingVisualStudio2005ForFun.aspx
I just switched to computer only display. Let's see if I can reproduce this without multiple displays.
 
@kush ouch - since 05 and they Never fixed it..
 
@juanvan actually it crashed again, even on single display
 
It get further?
 
5:46 PM
I am using a DLL from a 3rd party. In visual studio, namespaces and functions looks fine. When I decompile the DLL, all the namespaces and class names are obfuscated. How can they obfuscate the DLL but still allow me to use the proper names of class and namespaces in my code?
 
You probably need their key to properly decompile it? Did you try using something like reflector or dotpeek to look at the dll?
 
I used justdecompile.
I just don't understand how VS can understand it, but the decompiler cant
 
Is that the only library that gives you problems?
 
@Justin Are you sure all of the names are obfuscated? Typically, people will leave the public API using nice names, and only obfuscate the internals
so you can find the "real" types
 
hmm let me look again
 
5:56 PM
dotPeek is really nice, then you can just navigate to > decompiled sources
 
@ReedCopsey yup you were right. The unobfuscated was in the giant pile of obfuscated ones.
 
@Justin That's common with libraries ;) If VS is giving you nice names, they won't be obfuscated in the assembly
extending the windows shell is a pain :S
 
Anyone knows what AX could mean when used like this: "We are hiring a bunch of AX-developers"
 
ajax? apache linux?
 
@JohanLarsson Microsoft Dynamics.
Microsoft Dynamics AX is one of Microsoft's enterprise resource planning software products. It is part of the Microsoft Dynamics family. History Microsoft Dynamics AX was originally developed as a collaboration between IBM and Danish Damgaard Data as IBM Axapta. Axapta was initially released in March, 1998 in the Danish and U.S. markets. IBM returned all rights in the product to Damgaard Data shortly after the release of Version 1.5 before Damgaard Data was merged with Navision Software A/S in 2000. The combined company, initially NavisionDamgaard, later Navision A/S, was acquired by Micr...
 
6:01 PM
@Pheonixblade9 makse sense ty
 
I see they have a production scheduling module. I wonder what algorithm they use to produce the schedule, or if it is only manual creation.
 
> Error 11 The call is ambiguous between the following methods or properties: 'IMyInterface.UpdateText(string)' and 'IMyInterface.UpdateText(string)'

Can anyone explain why this conflict would occur? It seems odd.
Hah, Violet Beuregarde quote. Nice one.
 
in Anime and Manga on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 7 hours ago, by Madara Uchiha
Someone had too much free time: https://github.com/turkishdelighthorse?tab=contributions&from=2012-11-06
no, it was posted in Python & c++
some effort to do that
or a bot, still effort
 
6:36 PM
@TravisJ I take it that it stands for Not Safe For Work. Didn't that Madara guy run for Moderator status?
 
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Q: C# XmlReader - Parse XML where grandparent id is equal to

Joel KiddI need to retrieve all <code1> values in vehicles where the group is 546. Below is an example of code I have used to parse another section of XML: using (XmlReader r = XmlReader.Create(new StringReader(xmlDoc.InnerXml), new XmlReaderSettings() { Async = true })) { while (await r.ReadAsync()...

Please help
 
@Greg he is a mod
@Johan - Which company was working with AX?
@Pheonixblade9 - Did you just google AX or did you know that off the top of your head?
 
@TravisJ what? you don't think I would make a good yoogoogleizer?
I bet you think I didn't even know what a yougoogley is!
 
@TravisJ I was asked in the ELU-chat, MS Dynamics made sense for her
 
@TravisJ For Stack Overflow?
 
6:41 PM
@Greg - For anime. Not sure about SO
 
@TravisJ I was saying for Stack Overflow he was in the voting to attempt to become a moderator for here.
 

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