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user1125394
5:00 PM
@Darkyen it opens the door to recursiion :p
 
@cx so does this
!!> function r(){ r(); }; r();
 
@Darkyen "InternalError: too much recursion"
 
user1596138
Hahahaha
 
see -^
we can handle recursion well @cx
perhaps if u havent noticed bot cant take commands from itself, right :P
 
user1596138
@cx Your name is too short to ping?
 
user1596138
5:02 PM
The pings don't usually register unless 3 or more characters are used. And your name isn't actually linking pings to you from what I can see.
 
@cx Yeah, that's annoying!
@balpha ^ Pings should link to the message there, shouldn't it?
 
user1125394
@cx that pings me o no you're right :)
 
user1596138
@c x testing..
 
user1596138
Nope.
 
user1596138
Not from my end anyway.
 
user1596138
5:08 PM
0
Q: Chat not pinging when name is too short

JhawinsssNot sure what exactly to title this (change it if you want). As seen HERE, pings aren't registered when they use less than 3 characters. His name "C X" is 3 characters, but because of the space and the way spaces are removed for pings it doesn't seem possible to ping him unless it's a direct re...

 
user1125394
I'm ping safe
 
user1596138
Meta post above. You won't be safe for long ;)
 
user1125394
hehe
 
user1596138
Direct replies work though.
 
user1596138
@cx Like this.
 
5:10 PM
@Amaan @rlemon twitch.tv/beyondthesummit Day 2 of The International
 
0
Q: How to maintaining AngularJS apps in a easy way

Deividi CavarzanWhat's the best approach to keep an AngularJS app reliable and easy to maintain? I found the yeoman project and ng-boilerplate. Yeoman separates the views from controllers, which ng-boilerplate doesn't, keeping all together. I didn't know how it's gonna be more easy to maintain if the project ...

 
user1596138
Also rep doesn't work the same on Meta as it does here. Why the hell do I need 20 rep to enter a chatroom on Meta???
 
user1596138
My last question (anti-badges) took me down to 1. Haha.
 
5:24 PM
@Zirak Why the cygwin?
 
Just bought a pair of Razer Hydras, they look so fun amazon.ca/Razer-Gaming-Sensing-Controllers-RZ06-00630100-R3U1/…
 
@Jhawinsss should be granted by the assoc bonus
(unless you happen to net 41 downvotes and no upvote)
 
5:48 PM
@Datsik Boring
 
Thought you were interested in it :)
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak I managed to go from 101 rep to 1 in a half hour.
 
user1596138
-57
Q: Anti-Badges for trolling/ridiculous behavior

JhawinsssI think we should have anti-badges. They could be implemented as a sort-of punishment for doing stupid things such as; Get -10 score and no upvotes on any post on the meta site for this site. -- Idiocracy Badge, lose 20 rep. Have 2 questions closed as "Not a real question." -- Blasphemy badge,...

 
@Jhawinsss ah, that, cute
 
user1596138
Lmao -57, and it did have a few upvotes I think.
 
5:54 PM
@Jhawinsss should I give you a bounty of mercy?
or, you might ask for the rep never to go below the assoc bonus
 
user1596138
Eh, no big deal. The other question should net me enough rep to be able to function. Plus it's a real bug that needs to be fixed.
 
user1596138
But, I'd like to make sure I don't continue getting downvotes on my anti-badges question. Can I have it locked? Or deleted?
 
you can flag; now that flag weight is gone, a denied flag won't hurt you
 
@cx no ping there?
 
user1596138
See the issue?
 
user1596138
5:58 PM
It's hard to tell when he doesn't have a message posted on-screen. Because you could mouseover then and see that his most recent message doesn't fade like it's supposed to to let you know you pinged him. And he isn't receiving the pings.
 
@Jhawinsss I gave you an upvote :P
 
user1596138
:). From what my rep feed (whatever it's called) says you were the only one haha.
 
@Jhawinsss There is another I can tell
You should really post a picture of your question, makes it so much easier to understand what you're asking ? — adeneo 17 mins ago
 
user1596138
Weird. I don't see it in my rep.
 
LMFAO, that prompted him to snapshot the question and post it as a picture :P
 
user1596138
6:08 PM
Nevermind.
 
user1596138
Thought it was a reply to my bug.
 
user1596138
College recruiters have been spamming the shit out of me, sometimes 4-5 calls a day (every damn day). But one just called me today (Sunday) so I answered, and that college will never call me again. Anyone who calls me about business, or spam on a Sunday gets an earful, usually until they're fed up and hangup on me. :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - he actually posted the picture first, that's why I posted the comment, as it seemed really stupid with a picture of the question in the question ?
He didn't post the picture because of the comment, it was the other way around.
 
@adeneo Ah lol, still funny :)
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum Hahahahahaha I hadn't actually looked at that yet. What the hell was he thinking??
 
user1596138
6:19 PM
Why the fuck is the markdown different for question comments from what it is in chat.
 
user1596138
That's just ridiculous. I'm mad.
 
user1596138
italic in comments
 
user1596138
italic in chat
 
user1596138
Wait. What?
 
user1596138
Ok, so _ is italic and so is *. That's weird, but at least not asinine like I thought. Nevermind.
 
user1596138
6:23 PM
@Ben you around?
 
user1596138
 
user1596138
@FlorianMargaine ? ^
 
@Jhawinsss cause hes florian
and... lazy loading can fail on u
 
@Jhawinsss Kinda
Why?
 
user1596138
The question about post-counts was all.
 
6:36 PM
Ew ew ew ew someone kill it with fire :/
 
user1596138
@Darkyen That isn't his post-count for this room though.
 
user1596138
Click my name. I have 7.3K messages in this room, but looking at my chat profile the number listed in the bottom-right is higher than that.
 
user1596138
But his count is below that on the JS room. So I guess maybe it's some sort of bug? I've always noticed certain users don't have post-counts listed on the info page for the room.
 
user1596138
Like Zirak's and rlemon's. It's never shown up. I've noticed intentionally this week because I wanted to see if it was a bug.
 
ask on meta
 
user1596138
6:40 PM
Eh. It's messy. Hard to word and would have to include pictures for sure. I don't have time right now, I'm working today for some reason.
 
I am having a hard time mate :'(
try to valgrind a gc powered language... so i can never be sure if thats a feature of language or a bug... all hail node.js
 
m59
@BenjaminGruenbaum is there a priority-like thing when talking about the same directive repeated on a bunch of elements? Like, if I have this
<div foo priority=2>
<div foo priority=1>
So, I want the 2nd element to get processed first.
 
@m59 Did you write the directive yourself?
 
m59
Yeah.
not actually called foo, lol
 
@m59 you can sort them based on that attribute for priority
 
m59
6:43 PM
The only thing I can think to do is to track it myself and basically have it skip them, then compile again
Does the compiler have a place where it has listed them that I can modify before they run?
 
[].sort.call(document.getElementsByClassName("foo"),function(e1,e2){
    return e1.dataset.priority - e2.dataset.priority;
});
 
@m59 I have to admit, I read the Angular source once and it was long ago. I think this makes an interesting question for SO - unlike most retarded ones.
 
@Darkyen He is asking about the order in which Angular processes Angular directives.
 
m59
@Darkyen talking angular dude, my bad.
 
6:45 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum he can still sort the array, cant he ?
 
m59
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'll post something in a bit. I promised myself not to work today, lol.
But yeah, so you see my problem? I "could" do it, but surely calling $compile over and over is not the best way.
 
@Darkyen Yeah, but that's not the point. docs.angularjs.org/guide/directive
 
tl;dr; pls summarize
 
m59
It reads the html top to bottom and calls your function, in this case "foo"
 
hmm
 
m59
6:48 PM
I'd have to find a way to make it do otherwise, or track it and have it skip them unless they are the correct number, then have it read from the top again (keep rescanning top to bottom = suk)
 
@m59 Can you show me your directive?
@m59 This sounds like another design problem in the first place?
 
m59
I'd love a review, that's for sure.
But, it loads all of the site's content
it works fine, but I'd like to prioritize the important stuff
 
117,584 allocs, 116,614 frees :-(
 
@Darkyen C?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum C++ with ffmpeg [which is c]
 
6:50 PM
@Darkyen valgrind?
 
yeap.
 
mostly what it spit is because of v8 :P
 
m59
@BenjaminGruenbaum I need to be a good husband and chill with my wife :)
If it's cool, I'll write a little summary of how my cms works and show you how the directives build everything. Catch ya later and thanks for the interest!
 
You're welcome, good luck
 
6:52 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum wanna help ?
i will buy you a candy :D lol
 
No :) I wish you best of luck though. Debugging memory leaks is hell, and when I get them it's my fault for bad tests
 
==23872== LEAK SUMMARY:
==23872==    definitely lost: 76,016 bytes in 646 blocks
==23872==    indirectly lost: 7,579,527 bytes in 259 blocks
==23872==      possibly lost: 15,447,119 bytes in 10 blocks
==23872==    still reachable: 89,567 bytes in 55 blocks
==23872==         suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==23872==
==23872== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==23872== ERROR SUMMARY: 22 errors from 20 contexts (suppressed: 2 from 2)
^ mostly looks like i wrote code when i was drunk
and stuff like
==23872== 192 bytes in 2 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 30 of 57
==23872==    at 0x4A08361: operator new(unsigned long) (vg_replace_malloc.c:298)
==23872==    by 0x5C37C32: NodeCast::Decoder::getPacket() (in /home/abhishek/workspace/voscast/build/Release/nodecast.node)
==23872==    by 0x5C37CE8: NodeCast::Decoder::DecodeAudio() (in /home/abhishek/workspace/voscast/build/Release/nodecast.node)
==23872==    by 0x5C37FAF: NodeCast::StreamDecoder::Decode(v8::Arguments const&) (in /home/abhishek/workspace/voscast/build/Release/nodecast.node)
makes it worse :[ to debug
 
user1596138
I've got a memory leak to track down in my App today...
 
@Jhawinsss javascript or c or ???
 
user1596138
iOS bullshit. xCode isn't very helpful.
 
user1596138
After this I don't ever want to touch anything iOS ever again. I may even pass this project on to someone else.
 
user1596138
Hmm...
 
:P
lets try to run node.js without my code
lets see if this still cries about memory leaks
 
@JanDvorak what's your address?
2
 
@BadgerGirl 78.45.117.59, why?
3
 
7:09 PM
lol
 
We need your physical address.
 
He will be posting his MAC address in 5 4 3 2 1
 
@BadgerGirl of the modem, router, or the end device?
 
@JanDvorak she wants your living address as in where do you live in the world
as in the postal address
 
@Darkyen I know :-)
@BadgerGirl will "Prague, CZ" suffice?
 
7:13 PM
nope.
btw WOW U LOVE IN PRAGUE!
 
Maybe. I'll let you know.
 
@JanDvorak GPS coordinates
 
Oh noes! A storm!
 
@Nathvi Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Hey erbody
I was wondering, how can javascript leak your ip address ?
 
7:15 PM
@Nathvi define "your", "leak"
 
^ what. If you connect to any page, PHP/any server-sided language has your IP
 
@JanDvorak, I mean, if you are trying to hide it, with say tor, I've read that having javascript can leak your real ip
 
@Nathvi depends on whether your HTTP traffic is TORn as well
 
Tor is a network to hide your ip
 
7:17 PM
Don't think so, unless they use a plugin such as Java, Flash, or Silverlight, <-- which the Tor Browser usually has disabled.
 
@DaveChen, it is disabled. I was just wondering how it worked
 
@Nathvi the point is "a unique cookie" which helps associate the IP-address with a particular person
 
They could use Java (probably not flash because of SOP I think), to ping a web server, and that's outside of the browser. So that would leak your real IP.
This isn't an issue if you're on VPN.
 
the IP address by itself is quite useless
 
@JanDvorak No.
 
7:20 PM
@DaveChen, how easy is it to make a vpn?
 
@BadgerGirl: yes. Pretty useless
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A: php secure way to detect localhost from server

Pekka 웃The most straightforward answer is $_SERVER["REMOTE_ADDR"]. It's generally considered reasonably safe. However, if you provide access to command line commands through your script, it may not be enough. It may be possible to send a request to your script from the outside through IP spoofing. Tha...

@Nathvi Well if you're making the vpn on your own network, and then connecting to it, you won't have changed your IP. You can either setup one on your VPS (might have to tell your host providers to enable TAP -- but they usually do it with no extra charge), rent one, or find free trial VPNs.
 
@JanDvorak omg there's where I live, how did you find that out? :O
 
@DaveChen magic, and a bit of birthday paradox
@DaveChen nicmene myslim ze kecas
 
11 postcards. We have so many friends. :)
 
7:34 PM
Where's my post card
 
Who are you?
3
 
gacnt
 
I'll be whoever you want me to be big boy ;)
 
@GNi33 you and me, Spielberg RedBull Ring, next weekend, ADAC GT Masters. DO IT!
 
@BadgerGirl Checkmate.
 
7:44 PM
@copy ...
 
@GNi33 ffs, you have to give me your phone number so I can wake you up because of random shit like that.
 
> "probably lost": your program is leaking memory, unless you're doing funny things with pointers (such as moving them to point to the middle of a heap block).
what does that mean ?
 
@BadgerGirl Where's mine?
Can I have a digital one?
Also, how was it?
 
@Amaan It's on its way. No digital. We are still in Miami
 
@BadgerGirl Wait wait wait, you're Mrs. Paste now?
 
7:55 PM
@Darkyen read: unless you're doing pointer arithmetic
 
user1125394
ctrl+v
 
Any ideas anyone this question hasn't received much attention
 
@OctavianDamiean What?
 
@JanDvorak i guess i need to write more C++ isque code :'(
 
user1125394
nah even me I understood copy/paste
 
7:56 PM
I mean, i basically put a nice lil pointer in C Struct in one function and free it in some other one.. will that print that ?
 
memory leak = some memory is not accessible by pointers but you don't release it for new allocation
 
hmm.
 
@OctavianDamiean Not yet but maybe soon. ;)
 
@copy Not really
 
TOTESPLOSION
 
user1596138
8:03 PM
Anyone on here live in California? This is totally off-topic.
 
user1596138
Also need work advice.
My boss is letting me work more hours now. I used to work 25. Now I work 33-38 ish.
Which is filling my financial hole slowly. But I'm only making $12/hr which has been my payrate for almost a year now. In this line of work I know I should be making more, especially after the year.

My question:
Should I ask for a raise and risk losing my extra hours and possibly making less money?
Or should I stay quiet and take the extra hours because I can survive on this now and not starve like the last few months?
 
user1596138
Also, "(see full text)" doesn't actually show anything else. That's the whole message already... Lol.
 
@Jhawinsss Get Google to hire you.
You're in 'murica you can do it.
 
user1596138
Well, you get an F for choosing an answer that doesn't exist.
 
user1596138
I'm 18 still, no degree and absolutely no plans for going to school. Doubt Google would even look at me.
I also don't want that environment. I want to work with a smaller corp/business where I can learn more.
 
user1125394
8:15 PM
$12/hr without taking taxes into account?
 
user1596138
Yup. After taxes I lose about 27%. So about $8.76/hr take-home.
 
@Jhawinsss 10% of Google's employees don't have a degree. Heck, I don't have a degree, yet they wanted to recruit me twice.
 
user1596138
Well, not now. Now it's more like $9.80 take-home because my taxes were abnormally high and I fixed it.
 
user1125394
that's slavery it does 9€/hr, -> 1260€ /month
 
user1596138
@OctavianDamiean Too good for Google? :P
 
8:17 PM
@ChrisDemetriad Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
user1596138
@cx Minimum-wage here is $7.25. I'm the envy of every friend I have from HS.
 
user1125394
@Jhawinsss o ok then, depend where you live, with home and things to pay
 
user1596138
Most of my friends make <$8.50. Which is why I feel bad about asking for a raise, because in a way I should feel lucky to get what I do. But I know I should be making more.
 
@Jhawinsss Relocating is not an option for me.
 
user1596138
My co-workers all started at $12/hr. And they only do data-entry/general office duties and proof-reading.
 
8:19 PM
hi; anyone willing to have a quick look at a Uncaught ReferenceError: (function) is not defined I am getting before killing myself, please?
 
user1596138
@OctavianDamiean Ah. Relocating is the only option for me. No work in this line for anything but Sr. Devs around me.
 
user1596138
@ChrisDemetriad Link?
 
user1125394
yo soy un señor developer
 
titan.dcs.bbk.ac.uk/~cdemet03/jvfmaa/index.html - uni project, go to dairy free please, and click the value of the input text
 
@Jhawinsss Anyway, it's not about me. Brush up your web development skills, make sure to participate in some interesting open-source projects, preferably on GitHub. Your SO profile is quite important as well.
 
8:21 PM
(function() {with (this[2]) {with (this[1]) {with (this[0]) {return function(event) {updateQuantity('ID004', 'add')
};}}}})
@ChrisDemetriad whattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ?
 
Then apply for a position.
 
I've seen that but I don't know how to.. hmm
 
user1125394
troll?
 
that is my problem - function getUpdatedQty(OOO) {

alert(OOO); }
this is really my problem - function getUpdatedQty(OOO) {

alert(OOO); }
 
user1596138
Hmm....
 
8:24 PM
@Jhawinsss .. all yours mate
 
@ChrisDemetriad That's a function, not a problem.
 
user1596138
@OctavianDamiean My bad. That's the plan!
 
@OctavianDamiean see rest of his code
 
user1596138
@Chris look at line 38.
 
@Darkyen Nah, too afraid.
 
8:24 PM
jesus..
 
user1596138
Of scripts.js
 
one second, right now
 
user365265
looooololololool
 
@user2266481 Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
8:26 PM
@cept0 wtf ...
 
user1596138
Also, why would you define that function inside of getJSONValues()??
 
@Jhawinsss really? How so? I don't have a vehicle, just public transportation
 
@Jhawinsss thats actually why his code isnt working :-> scopes!
 
@Jhawinsss erm.. as I am calling that on the onload event, I thought..
 
user1596138
@Chris problem solved. Try defining the function from within console and you'll see it works fine. You've just scoped it wrong.
 
8:27 PM
it's scopes, yes :/
 
@ChrisDemetriad see mate if you define a function f inside a function b, then f will only be accessible inside b. as in if you call it when you are inside b
 
@Jhawinsss clear enough; I will go and play with it a bit more; moving my alert function all over the place didn't help at all
 
user1596138
Just move the function outside of it's currently nested function and you're good. Don't nest functions for no good reason.
 
@Jhawinsss teach him about createElement and addEventListener please
 
user1596138
@ChrisDemetriad I just used the function on your site and it worked fine. I defined it within the console and then clicked the buttons and it worked.
 
user1596138
8:29 PM
@Darkyen I don't have that kind of time haha.
 
user1596138
@SomeKittens Emissions.
 
got it; no event listeners now as I will really kill myself :(
 
@nsawaya Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
thanks for the advise guys, I will jump on it and clean it up for a bit
 
user1596138
I know the bike won't pass, it also won't pass a noise test but they don't enforce those here (not sure what the law on that is in CA) but I have a silencer. There's no way in hell it'd be close to passing emissions tests though. Thankfully it looks like Suzuki knew this and they sold a version of it with a smog canister. I just have to find one if I move.
 
8:31 PM
just to explain myself but I got it; will jump on it now
one more thing - the reason getUpdatedQty is in that function from that loop from that whatever is so I can have access of a particular key from my obj/array, as I am not really looking to alert something just because it's nice outside..
 
user1596138
I've literally never used public transportation in my life. We don't have it :P.
 
user1596138
afk Smoke
 
@Jhawinsss It's not bad here, it'll all depend on where you end up working.
 
hey guys
 
user1596138
@ChrisDemetriad aIf you define it outside you can still call it from inside...
 
user1596138
8:33 PM
True. Is it even feasible to drive to work?
 
@Jhawinsss indeed, I've done it, but the outside declared function won't have access to obj/array keys, right?
@Jhawinsss omg it does, I've just done it; thanks a bunch and have a great day/night
 
@Jhawinsss It all depends. You can, but it can be really expensive: gas, tolls and parking can add up.
 
first thing there's a bug in this chat thing
everytime I change a tab and go back it just scrolls up to the top
 
What's that?
 
user1596138
I've also never paid for parking :/
 
8:37 PM
firefox 22.0
 
Never?
Even I've paid for parking, and this is India
People park their cars in the middle of the road and leave if they feel like it
 
user1596138
Umm... I've been with people who paid before. But no, never myself. There's not a place you pay for parking within 30 minutes drive of here.
 
user1596138
I imagine motorcycles are popular? I also imagine parking is somehow cheaper for them, because they're tiny? Maybe not.
 
Haha, wow
 
user1596138
Either way, at 58mpg u could easily afford gas/parking :P
 
8:40 PM
Which country are you talking about?
 
user1596138
Screw mobile.
 
user1596138
I live in Indiana in the US.
 
@Jhawinsss probably
 
user1596138
orst case, if I work close enough to where I live I'll ride my bicycle.
 
You have got nicely cheap petrol/gas there :)
 
user1596138
8:42 PM
$416 a gallon...
 
user1596138
$4.16. Stupid mobile.
 
user1596138
But that means for about $8 I get 120 miles on the bike. So I never worry about the price of fuel.
 
It's $4.20 for a trip across the Bay Bridge (I live in Alameda) one way. In a vehicle there's an $5 toll, so you're always better on the bus. Plus, I can read and relax, even in heavy traffic
 
I get 100 miles for $20 lol, I mean shit
 
user1596138
Well, in the truck I get about 18mpg. So my fuel cost triples in the winter.
 
8:45 PM
 
user1596138
@san.chez Same thing it costs me in the truck.
 
user1596138
@SomeKittens Creep much? ;)
 
Ah, yes, your old profile is your gravatar
 
user1596138
True.
 
Actually I lied its about $30 per 100miles
4.4 litre engine
 
8:47 PM
@Jhawinsss Call me @BadgerGirl's protégé
 
$2 / litre petrol price
I have to get a bicycle
 
user1596138
@SomeKittens Haha. What is Dormless?
 
A startup he never completed!
 
Gah, the funding for Ubuntu Touch doesn't look all too good.
 
Aww, damn
I thought they were going through with it
 
8:51 PM
Currently they'd have to make $1.402.363,6 a day to reach their $32M goal.
 
$32M?!
 
That's crazy!
 
I'm sure the project would be founded otherwise anyway but I'm afraid of the consequences.
 
@Jhawinsss can I please ask you one more thing? I only need to know whether what I want is reasonable as it doesn't sound like it to me!
 
8:52 PM
Oh, wow, they've still got a whole bunch of cash!
 
user1596138
@OctavianDamiean I thought you meant the Ubuntu OS for phones. Not the Edge. I hope it works out in the long run.
 
Yea but I'm afraid it's not enough.
@Jhawinsss My bad, I meant the Edge yea.
 
user1596138
It definitely isn't.
 
If it doesn't reach $32M, what then? They will do a mp3 player instead?
 
user1596138
But why would they set the bar so high?? The project is not going to die when they don't see any money from that IGG campaign. Had they set it at something more realistic it would have been better than nothing.
 
8:56 PM
@Jhawinsss My old startup
 
user1596138
@san.chez They get $0.
 
@san.chez Nah, they just won't do their own phone or they will but funded by some companies which could come with some drawbacks.
 
@OctavianDamiean Corps might donate at the 80k level
 
user1596138
I'm buying one if they ever come out. That's for sure.
 
@SomeKittens Even then you'd need an average of 17,6 companies per day.
Only companies that is.
 
user1596138
8:57 PM
@OctavianDamiean You seem to use commas where decimals belong and vise versa...?
 
@Jhawinsss That's because I'm from Europe.
 
user1596138
$1.402.363,6 should be $1,402,363.6??
 
user1596138
They do that in Europe??
 
Yes, we do that in Europe.
 
not very often. though
 
user1596138
8:58 PM
Weird. I hate the diversity we have in number systems/measurements and such.
It's counter-productive for the entire world.
 
galons suck
 
@san.chez In the German language area at least that's the standard.
 

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