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11:00 AM
It's supposed to live on, reproduce and feed other animals.
 
maybe he should eat it then?
 
According to logic.
Yea? Prove that.
 
that was kind of deep
Logic is always logical
 
@ScottW It is by definition.
 
Would anyone mind taking a look at this question? I'm stupmed
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Ron TeslerI'm using a Service that displays a view using WindowManager, and animation occurs every time I change the view's size using windowManagerLayoutParams.height = newHeight; ((WindowManager) getSystemService(WINDOW_SERVICE)).updateViewLayout(mMainLayout, windowManagerLayoutParams); If I disable m...

 
11:04 AM
It's up to you to prove us wrong with facts.
Oh good. @BenjaminGruenbaum we need you.
@ScottW Ok, you're the fly, someone locks you in between two windows. Would you want to escape somehow instead of starving to death?
 
@OctavianDamiean What's up? (I just came here because my friend asked me an android question and I'm an android noob so I figured you probably know)
 
@ScottW Well, it doesn't make sense to try to convince you if you go down the childish path.
 
What's the discussion about here?
 
@ScottW Your stomach will thank you.
 
So fix my friend's android problem :v
 
11:08 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I thought he wanted to prove us that logic is not always logical.
 
What does 'being logical' even mean in the context of a logic?
 
I know ...
 
Do you mean a logic being sound?
 
8 mins ago, by Scott W
well logic isn't always logical
 
Or a complete theory?
 
11:10 AM
That was the statement.
 
These things both have meanings, 'logical logic' I just don't understand, maybe I don't know the terminology...
 
@ScottW It is logical that this animal just wants to live on.
 
A logic may be sound or/and complete . I don't get logical, can't help you sorry :P
 
But what is logical anyways? I feel that it is very subjective and therefore what is logical to you is not logical to Scott
 
Logic is not subjective :( It's a mathematical term, it's well defined.
The fly doesn't 'logically' want to live... that's misuse of the term logical, just like 'logical logic'...
I blame Java :P
 
11:12 AM
    log·i·cal
    /ˈläjikəl/

    Adjective
    Of or according to the rules of logic or formal argument: "a logical impossibility".
    Characterized by clear, sound reasoning.
@ScottW I can tell you that no animal has the desire to die.
 
Octi, please follow the rules! :D
 
Would anyone please look at the question -_-' :P
 
Except some humans and apes (basically humans).
 
This discussion isn't about logics one bit. It's about ethics. Don't 'borrow' math terminology to discuss things that are not about math, that's psuedoscience.
There are plenty of good philosophers who discussed cruelty to animals...
He can call you cruel, or unjust... logic is simply out of the scope of this discussion.
 
@ScottW How does that make any sense?
 
11:18 AM
That's a bold statement, claiming that justice is culture subjective.
 
@ScottW because you say so or because you can back it by hard facts?
Which law?
 
So the reason you don't kill lions is because it's illegal? You would have no problem killing them had it been legal?
Lions are hard to reach, what about dogs?
 
Also, you're mixing up legal and ethical.
 
Would you kill dogs had it been perfectly legal?
 
Symbian is officially dead today
 
11:21 AM
R.I.P. Symbian.
 
@ScottW That's a philosophical position, not a fact
 
It's a mobile OS not a dog (for the kids)
 
what about all the Malaysians Warren killed?
 
@ScottW maybe you.
 
I remember back in the day I read a whole book in Symbian :(
 
11:22 AM
I for example, think both have an equal right to live.
 
@OctavianDamiean So there is a bounding 'right' to live? Do flies and lions deserve to live?
 
what's happening here?
 
I also think, that we shouldn't be in the position to even judge if another creature has more of a right to live than another.
@ScottW I'm not trolling at all and yer, I'm upset that you've trapped a fly in your window to find out when it dies.
 
well if it isn't harming you you should let it go
or kill it. Don't let it suffer like that
 
@OctavianDamiean We are in that position though.
When you eat animals, or animal products that's exactly what you do.
 
11:25 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I know.
 
4th Amendment! ahhahah....this is great
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm well aware that the nature and my perception of what's right diverge.
 
there is no better situation to post this then right now:
 
I think insects are 'aight because if you remove insects the whole ecosystem collapses. you know?
 
@OctavianDamiean I kill flies, I don't trap and then kill them because it's sick and cruel, not because it's not right. They bother me so I kill them.
 
11:32 AM
When bees go extinct we'll be probably feeding on soylent green
@BenjaminGruenbaum and I have similar icons lol
 
@Reno Only mine is real XD
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I don't like them in my house either, that's not even the core of the discussion. I just didn't like the lol, its trapped in my window, I wonder how long it will survive trapped inside part.
 
WELL I HAVE MORE REPUTATION THAN YOU
What's happening in Rio?
Absolutely jaw-dropping photo of the massive protests in Rio http://t.co/NWcgsDsbRq #Brazil
... over bus fare.
 
they are complaining about corruption and missspending of millions/billions for soccer world cup etc
 
@OctavianDamiean yeah, me neither.
 
11:41 AM
I mean, I generally try to get rid of them without killing them but if there is just no other way I try to give 'em a quick death.
 
You guys don't code enough, too much talking ;)
 
I won't sue you, I just won't like you anymore.
 
it would have been so easy to just let him out... or not?
<-- barely harms bugs/flies... I always try to help them to leave
 
@WarrenFaith Yup.
@WarrenFaith It might be a cultural thing. ;)
 
them flies and bugs has to die
 
11:47 AM
Fly screens are amazing inventions :)
They won't keep only flys out but also the more dangerous gnats.
Oh, wait, you have a screen?
That's a completely different story then!
I thought he's trapped between an outer and inner window and you just don't want to open the outer window!
Yea, that changes everything.
Meh, there is no more reason not to like you anymore.
 
A few days ago I had 3 bats in my apartment
omfg there are three bats in the hall. I should be terrified but im feeling like bruce wayne right now
They couldn't sense the door/window.
 
we needed a diagram
 
It was scary, a girl would probably scream
 
You have Ornithophobia ???
that's imo. so funny :P
funny x10 :D
Yes Ornithophobia ;)
funny word as well :)
 
11:52 AM
I have a fear of deserts (not the sweet)
 
@ScottW there's basically a word for every fear you can think of :) it's the latin word for what you fear + phobia afterwards :P
Dendrophobia = fear of trees
 
xerophobia
actually i haven't been in a desert so I can't say but even pictures freak me out
 
@Reno WHOOT!
Why?
 
No idea, it's irrational like all other fears
 
Interesting.
 
11:54 AM
Not something people have control on
 
Some fears aint irrational tbh
 
I used to have Arachnophobia when I was a kid.
 
Ailurophobia (fear of lions) isn't so irrational imo :P
If I met a lion I'd for sure get Ailurophobia :P
Iphonephobia :D
 
I met loads of lions they're not scary
 
While they were not behind a 10" hardened glass plate ?
 
11:57 AM
Lionesses is something to be scared of
Lions just sit on their arses and lick their balls
 
Lies
Ever seen 2 lions from different packs meet eachother ? ;-)=
 
Their only job is protecting the territory
 
@AndersMetnik but that fear is actually fear of cats not lions specifically.
I mean fear of lions is rational but fear of cats?
 
Ahh well
that's what google told me :P
MaximusAilurophobia then ;)
 
The trick is to not mess with an Alpha lion, it is the one with the lush dark hair.
 
11:59 AM
large cats :P
ohh well im quite busy, gotta back to rl work ttyl guys :)
 
@AndersMetnik I'd say, leophobia. :)
But that's just made up.
@Reno You should generally not mess with an animal that is able to rip your face off your head.
 
Big cats are nice usually.
Humans kill more big cats.
 
Some of them are quite incalculable too.
@Reno Oh, yea that for sure.
Sadly.
 
12:07 PM
 
Those a nice cats <3
 
lol sorry
every time a gif is posted the conversation stops
 
heh
They're just too cute.
 
Okay does anyone like the vanilla GS4?
It has the hardware to support things like Air view but no s/w
 
galaxy? one way to go, nexus :P
 
 
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1:44 PM
mhh. i'm wondering if there is a better way to get a 50/50 ratio split on a relative layout like this: gist.github.com/cvarta/3192782
currently i'm using a linear layout with weight inside a relative layout
any ideas? :)
 
weight attribute ?
what scott said :)
 
relativelayouts don't have the weight attribute
 
Then place a linear layout under it ?
 
i did. it works fine. i was just wondering if there is a better way. only found this link and thought i couldn't be the second one with this problem. ^^
 
'ello @FoamyGuy :)
 
1:56 PM
i thought about something like a weight attribute for a relative layout
mhh. okay... i wanted a relative layout outside because we are constructing a (maybe unnecessary) complex layout. parts of this layout get's used at other places and there happen some casts. ^^ maybe i should simply figure out how to cast correctly instead of building up unused layout structures...
 
 
1 hour later…
3:03 PM
hello
 
hi
 
how are ya
 
fine. eclipse sucks... ^^
 
:O
why
 
it's slow, and not very "crash" proof
currently i hav 5 to 6 projects opened. when i clean all of them at the same time, i have a crash chance of 80%... it's like gambling, and the bank always wins. xD
 
3:20 PM
@rezoom can you gist your configuration/config.ini (osx) or eclipse.ini (win)
maybe I can help
 
:D let me search for it
 
lol
 
nice file
768m
 
Ok. try changing this : -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xms40m -Xmx768m
to : -XX:MaxPermSize=768m -Xms384m -Xmx768m
 
3:24 PM
ok, what does it do? increase the memory or something?
 
thank you! will tell you if it changed anything in the long run. :)
 
yea...give it a whirl after a restart and clean those 6 project and rebuild...hopefully will be better
 
hmm, feeling for some wings now
 
@Raghav You said that the logic board was replaced in October. So they must have given you a new warranty for that logic board that lasts till this Oct?
 
3:30 PM
it worked fine. i'm forcing it to crash, but didn't get it.
very nice one! :D
 
hehe
points for @forgivegod
 
YAY!
 
^^
 
eclipse aint that bad
you should've seen in on windows 98 SE!
oh boy that was fun
 
O_O
 
3:32 PM
gnihi
 
now i feel old
 
oh man
 
^^
 
lool
I was thinking I want to try one of those OS' again
 
dont do it
go linux
 
3:33 PM
keep your good memories. xD
 
hehe
 
don't destroy them!
 
lol
dam listviews
 
3:50 PM
qq, when proguarding a release do you guys keep your whole proguard folder. or just the mapping.txt
 
good question there, im not so sure about that though
 
okies :)
 
4:50 PM
Hello, Android!
 
byebye Android !
 
hey @Code-Guru
 
hi
 
5:09 PM
ugh
i cant figure out how to write an arraylist of parcelable objects inside another parcelable
 
@JMRboosties Did you post a Q?
 
anyone here good with C?
If I were to write ++foo->bar, where foo is a struct, what is the order of precedence?
 
@Code-Guru user error, the array had a size of 0 to begin with
i was like "wtf man why isnt this working" lol
 
phew nice fix @JMRboosties
 
@JMRboosties haha
@JMRboosties So you using Arrays.toList()?
 
5:22 PM
i'm off. bye!
 
@Code-Guru nah
using writeList() and readList()
 
Why do you have an array then?
 
well arraylist
im just misspeaking
 
lol
oh...that's different
I was confused
 
now im running into a different problem
Caused by: android.os.BadParcelableException: ClassNotFoundException when unmarshalling:
really now classnotfound
 
5:30 PM
Okay. I was worried it might be incrementing the address of foo
It's code on a practise exam paper
 
@ScottW foo->bar is applying the binary -> operator on the variables foo and bar. It happens to have higher precedence than ++, though, so it amounts to the same thing.
 
thanks
 
And what's C++ doing in the Androd room? =p
 
Can I claim NDK? :P
 
@ScottW I wouldn't say its "incorrect"...just a higher level of abstraction
which definitely isn't a bad thing
 
5:36 PM
I haven't touched C in years
 
@ScottW long day? :P
you are getting on my schedule
 
@Glitch me either...I haven't done much C++ lately even.
 
I had to take a little nap :)
 
@luckyreed76 That sounds like a good idea...
 
you know you have issues when you pull two international SO chat shifts
 
5:42 PM
SO is just that good!
 
I wish I knew how to use linux better
what's the easiest way to generate an arbitrary amount of characters within the terminal?
I need to test some C code
 
slap the keyboard multiple times?
 
I need X amount of characters
 
@Glitch base64 -i /dev/urandom | tr -d '+/\r\n0-9' | head -c X; echo
might be base64 -e (I'm on osx so needs to be -i)
X is the number you want
 
5:57 PM
thanks
is there a way to just repeat the same character X times?
of my choosing
 

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