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12:00 AM
i'm having a horrible time supporting different screen sizes on different devices with my app. anyone have some suggestions on best practices? i keep finding UI glitches on random devices
does anyone know of a good UI testing framework for android?
 
12:42 AM
JUnit + Robotium
you can use the take screenshot function in robotium
 
12:53 AM
I also try to define layouts with layout_weight as much as possible, which they don't advise because nesting layouts is supposedly slow. But I've tested it and you can only see a noticeable difference in milliseconds once you get to twelve nested containers.
 
 
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1:55 AM
Evening gentlemen
 
2:35 AM
Above is an animated representation of how I refactor code.
 
hahah summs it up for me as well
 
Ahmad I love how you are pretty much on my schedule yet in Germany :P
 
 
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4:54 AM
@Reno They did give one for all the parts they replaced, but I think it was 3 months, not a year
I'll check the warranty paper and let you know when I get home
At the Dubai airport right now
 
> A replacement product/part assumes the remaining warranty of the original product or ninety (90) days from the date of replacement or repair, whichever provides longer coverage for you
boo
 
Ah yeah. 3 months :P
 
Samsung gives more than that
 
I could have bought a new mid range Samsung for the price they asked me to repair it :P
If I didn't want to get into iOS dev, I wouldn't be on a mac at all
I was getting a Samsung for 1/3rd the price with the same specs as the MBP I just bought
 
tbh I have my eye on a Sammy notebook which has not been released yet.
So I only want to use this one for a bit
 
4:58 AM
Ah okay
 
then sell it off
How long is the next flight?
 
I need to get a new laptop for my mom and brother. Any suggestions on whether its worth waiting? They don't need to be too high end. i3 for my mom, i5 for my brother
Dubai to Delhi is about 3:30, I think
I should land at 2:45 PM IST
 
I saw an ad in the paper today for the new MBP : 27900 + 12 x 4400
= 80700 . How much did you get it for in the US?
 
Uh, about 150k
I got the $2800 one
 
After the discount?
 
5:01 AM
$2739, including tax
$2579 after student discount
^Without tax
I got this one
So I'm boarding now. Off for a few hours.
Cya
 
See ya. Good luck at the customs :)
Walk through the green channel
 
Reno, have you read the Game of Thrones books yet?
 
My excuse was going to be: I have no laptop, tablet, or Android device
I haven't bought those books I had audio versions of it
 
you should just try it the old fashion way ha....good stuff
Sometimes it is nice not to look at screens
 
I feel weird reading books haha. I guess kids born after 2000 will sort of feel the same way
I used to be good at it. Like I used to read a 600 page book in a day
 
5:15 AM
wow...how old are you anyways?
 
Get rich or sigh trying
Ya all should follow me on twitter
Jun 6 at 11:36, by Reno
I'm NaN years old
 
I don't have twitter
 
I wish @Merlin was more active on twitter
Do you think it's possible to swap a harddisk with a SSD one (are they of the same shape)?
 
not sure only one way to find out
 
 
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6:47 AM
Morning Droiders :)
 
Anders!
 
Hi And(roid|ers) !
 
That's right ignore me ... I'm not even here.
 
hi @OctavianDamiean ! :D
 
6:54 AM
Sorry, I was busy messing with this fly
 
hi luckyreed
 
You son of a @Glitch, think you'll be more popular if you use your app's icon.
@luckyreed76 I see what you did there!
 
Ocus...you are making me want to reveal my dashing good looks with you avatar
haha
he really didn't make it clear how the fly was trapped
 
haha, go on luckyreed :)
and Anders too !
 
You and your hipster sun glasses.
 
6:58 AM
you think I should do it?
 
Haha, I'm a fucking good skilled programmer, I can wear whatever hispter sunglasses I want !
 
:D
Do you generally use all the news shit available in your field?
 
Octavian what are you thinking about in your pic?
 
@luckyreed76 How to effectively ban users from chat. Then I came up with locking down this room.
 
I some how snuck in a couple months back :P
 
7:01 AM
I use all the shit I want, and if someone's not happy with this, I'll remove his freakin' git write-access !
 
Yea, you're fine, wouldn't have banned you anyway.
Way to go.
 
Just curious Octavian but why didn't you want to work at Google? I know it is none of business, but I am sure it was a pretty nice offer
 
Anyone here into exocomics.com
@luckyreed76 I don't want to relocate.
If Google would offer me to telecommute, then that'd be fine.
 
Do they just not allow that at all?
 
I have no idea, but the positions they offered me were all in Mountain View.
It was about the core web team, that's the team working on the main search portal.
 
7:05 AM
Hello!
 
Ahhh...that must of felt kind of bittersweet to turn down Google
Appu!
It is like telling the prom queen to fuck off because you don't like her dress
 
Lol....
I don't think I can turn down such offer as the ambiance was already acquainted lucky.
I envy you Octavian at the same time I wish you get into Google.
 
New AM song :O
Working at Google isn't as amazing as people think
Most jobs there are mundane and boring like any other
They also pay below industry standard if you're an intern
 
7:31 AM
Yeah. I experienced it. I agree the work was mundane and you are also true on the way they pay. But the thing is I like the ambiance and the amenities and of course there was no work pressure ;)
 
Hey Apu
 
What's up Anders :)
 
7:47 AM
@luckyreed76 Kinda.
 
Did they fly you out there or skype?
 
Nah, I turned them down before it came to a call.
There is just no way you will ever get me out of Austria.
No matter how awesome the offer might be.
There's this thing about me, as long as I have just enough money to live, I'm the happiest person. I don't give a damn on piling money.
 
Really? Because of family?
 
Family, location, country, politics.
 
Come to Australia :P
 
7:51 AM
Austrian girls?
 
Austrian girls are awesome as well.
@Glitch I totally would if every creature alive wouldn't try to kill me there.
 
Lol, that's just a cover story we use to stop people coming here.
Last thing we want is a bunch of American tards
 
Wth!
 
:D
 
Also, so far there are only two countries I would consider moving to if I'd want to do that. Canada and New Zealand.
 
7:55 AM
Why Canada?
 
Social politics, people, weather and last but not least, Whistler Mountain.
 
Yeah might be best to avoid Australia now that the conservatives will more than likely come back into power
Which means they're scrapping our 1Gb/s internet network
and no gay rights
 
what are conservatives in Australia
 
The Liberal party
also known as the Coalition
They're mostly Catholic
 
what does that mean though?
Liberal party = Democrats in the US and Conservatives = Republicans
 
7:58 AM
Australia is a bit different. Both our major parties are close to the US Democrats
 
What about in Austria @OctavianDamiean
Really?
Large government, heavy regulations, lots of government benefits, high taxes? Glitch and then they differ on social issues?
 
These are our taxes ato.gov.au/content/12333.htm
Plus GST on all purchased items
Under coalition that first $18,200 bracket will probably be dropped to $6000 :(
 
@luckyreed76 You mean why I like Austria so much?
Random Fact: Octavian is a Minuum Keyboard beta tester and tests it right now. You jel? :D
 
8:16 AM
I was curious about the political parties there
that is an interesting tax structure
Is that really random :P though
 
hi there
 
hi warren
 
its getting really hot in here...
33°C
 
it was 96 today...
Glitch what is the GST and what is the rate?
 
I think GST is just tax on items :)
 
8:29 AM
Yeah, it's 10%
 
in DK, we have salary tax @ 40~60% dependent on how much you earn (the more you earn, the more tax)
And then 25% on all items
 
Wow
25% of everything?
 
@luckyreed76 Oh we have a couple of political parties. The strongest are the ÖVP (Austrian popular party) and the SPÖ (Austrian social party), then there is the Green party (pretty much a left party), the FPÖ (Austrian freedom party), the BZÖ (Alliance of the Austrian Future), the KPÖ (Communist party of Austria), the Frank Stronach party and the Pirate party.
 
But then everything else is free. healthcare, school, (even universities) etc
 
It is very very confusing.
 
8:31 AM
PIRATE PARTY!!
 
Yea but I don't like them.
 
pirate party is in germany as well afaik
 
I used to be in the Pirate Party but I decided to leave them.
 
oh...not like cool old school pirates?
 
8:32 AM
They didn't show any interest in anything other than IT related politics.
Also, I dislike their name choice.
 
Pirate parties are always shit
 
It's a misleading and childish name.
 
Single issue parties are fustratingly dumb
 
yes it is... :(
Glitch so 10% on everything?
 
Currently, I'm with no party.
Oh yea and the taxes, here it's 20% on everything except a few things and there are some other exceptions.
 
8:35 AM
I am a Libertarian
 
@Glitch I've been saying this for years. They don't offer most people permanent jobs too.. 1/3 of their workforce in on contract.
 
Free schools, healthcare, free universities ? Octvatian
 
@luckyreed76 Yea, except universities.
 
what else is free?
 
I mean the healthcare and social insurance is not really free.
You pay a tax from your income.
 
8:38 AM
of course
social insurance = government pension?
 
That and when you lose your job you get a certain percentage of your last income every month for a certain period until you can find another job.
They also offer assistance with finding a new job.
 
in the US that is same as unemployment and employers pay that
 
However the main factor for me not to consider America as a place to live is the political situation.
 
we also have free schooling except universities and healthcare for the poor
 
for how long time?
In denmark we have 2 different rates for this, first 2 years = % of your salary.
After 2 years, your net worth is calculated, and if you don't have any "money/wealth" you keep getting a check in the mail every day, but not very much.
 
8:42 AM
you all have such cool Government policies.
Reason why I refuse to stay in America is their lawyers and judicial system.
 
@OctavianDamiean u no like redneck policies ?
 
What is wrong with our politics besides everything?
 
Exactly Reed ;)
 
everything...
 
8:43 AM
I'd go as far to compare the U.S. with Syria.
 
Reno? what is wrong with our lawyers and judicial system?
 
NSA is the new USA
 
wow
 
There's only a minor difference, the U.S. government is a bit smarter and sneakier.
 
Can we have a cat gif please?
 
8:43 AM
I doubt that
 
lucky, see the video I linked a few minutes ago
thats all I need to say...
 
I dont have time to discuss these things right now :/
 
You can get sued for every little thing. You always have to be on your toes when interacting with people. Or things.
Try opening a startup for example. You'll get sued for everything you own.
 
Yeah Reno your judicial system at that point is a laugh imo.
 
of course you can get sued
 
8:48 AM
Well things like suing starbucks for burning your tongue on the coffee... stuff like that. Drying your cat in a microwave... could keep on going ;)
 
I mainly dislike the amount of penalty they request... $150.000 for a copied song? Serious? Also: Why the hell didn't this value changed due to inflation? Because it is just a fucking magic number without any mathematical background...
 
The Indian judicial system? It maybe be slow and inefficient but it is good at throwing away cases that are rubbish.
 
Ohh thought you were american ;)
 
You all hear about these ridiculous cases
 
Also, stuff like the Patriot Act. Just when I hear the name ... every real patriot would have to cringe when he sees how that act is used against his fellow countrymen.
 
8:49 AM
but for the most part our judicial system one of the best in the world IMO
 
@luckyreed76 Oh my, oh my oh my, so not.
 
now Congress is terrible
haha
I love this
 
not really. Most of the time the cops try to frame the witness.
 
so that doesn't happen in India?
 
That is why they have the "talk to the lawyer first" rule
 
8:51 AM
why would they frame the witness?
you mean the defendant?
Octavian what is so bad about our Judicial System?
 
That, the more money and power you have, the easier it is to bend it.
 
Warren, I agree completely the business model is outdated and so are the penalities, that is because the music/hollywood is based in California and they elect politicians to represent their interests
isn't that true every where Oct?
 
we have such decision here, too
 
@luckyreed76 No.
 
8:55 AM
so then Warren you have to dislike that as well
 
I can't name my country as being better in that respect because of the corruption going on but in principle it is better.
 
So in Austria people with money are unable to do that?
 
Oh yea, and the fact that your politicians are lobbyists.
 
of course they there
 
Politicians should be there for the people, not for corporations.
 
8:56 AM
so are yours...they lobby for their constituents
 
@luckyreed76 trust me, I do... from the bottom of my heart
 
@luckyreed76 No. That's prohibited by law in our country. It's also the reason why one of our politicians has been convicted for trying to do that.
 
so a company with 5,000 jobs in your district needs help to keep open...who are you representing?
 
That's the difference, corporations have no say in who is elected.
Direct votes have.
 
can corps not donate money to politicians there?
 
8:59 AM
No.
 
but employees of corps can....correct?
 
I'm not sure how it is with private people but there are limits as far as I know.
 
as there are here in the US
 
Political parties are funded by the government.
 
so what happens when the government is run by one political party there?
 
9:01 AM
That does not happen.
There is the coalition and the opposition.
 
we have a multi party system in (most) of the european countries
 
Without a two-thirds majority you can't do nothing.
 
not the ridiculous two party stuff
 
it is the same here
except 2 crappy parties
 
wait, 50%+ for laws and stuff, 66%+ for changing constitution, right?
 
9:02 AM
@luckyreed76 Yea, hence the Patriot Act and other such ridiculous and dangerous acts.
@WarrenFaith Yea.
 
50% for bill, 60% for cloture, 3/4 of the states for Constituion
 
Not to forget about the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
 
I don't even know what that one is haha
I just looked that one up...I don't think it is that bad
Warren...there is a time and a place for whistle blowing unless it involves putting others in eminent danger IMO
 
Germany is one of the few countries who has signed but not implemented the law against corruption by the UN UNCAC so shame on our politicians... they postponed it a few weeks ago the 8th time!
 
@luckyreed76 Oh no it's certainly not, the NSA can just do whatever the fuck they want and get access to who ever's account they want.
While the name implies it is for foreigners, in fact your government spies on just as much based on that act.
@luckyreed76 That's absolute bullshit.
 
9:14 AM
I agree completely
 
Let's face it ... your government made up a bullshit reason to detain and Bradley Manning.
Now they are looking for reasons to do just that with Edward Snowden.
 
I can't disagree with that at all
 
The reason they do that is because they know very well that what they do is unconstitutional, unethical and downright wrong.
 
now is that really the issue on why you dislike the US? If you can tell me that Austria has and never will detain someone illegally due to what they did to the Austrian government then I think that is fair
 
It's a Louis XIV of France remake so to say.
@luckyreed76 So far, there's no case on that.
 
9:19 AM
okay...well at least not a highly publicized one as ours?
 
I don't know any case in Germany where we treat someone this way....
there is currently one case under investigation and it looks like it was an epic fail of some judges/lawyers... but at least we don't treat them with death penalty...
 
Germany is beacon of human rights :)
 
there is also a big difference between manning and the cases in your link
most of them are done outside the law, people overstepping their roles/rules
black sheeps are every where
the question is: is a person responsible or the system
and imho in the US the system is responsible
 
I agree...the US just happens to get caught and publicized
 
9:27 AM
nope
again: comparing apples and bananas
 
that link was terrible
sorry
the system is the people though
 
for example: the sources for a journalist are a holy secret and there is no legal way to get the identity of the source of a lea
 
that is how it is in US
 
so we have whistle blowers who don't need to reveal their identity
 
but ours do
 
9:30 AM
yeah because they now, that there is nobody who cares about the journalism protection there... they now they will get identified...
prism is the best sample for that
nobody is save, nobody stays anonymous
we had once a police chief who threatened a kidnapper to do terrible things with him when he not say where the kid is (at this point it was totally clear they had the right person)
 
aloah!
 
it is scary
 
beside the fact that I might have done the same, the police chief was punished by prison
and no harm was done, only a threat...
 
we have the exact same thing
we have the right to remain silent
 
still guantanamo exists...
 
9:34 AM
yall are throwing everything at me today haha
 
we too, still you used violence against prisoners on a regular basis
yeah :D
 
in Guantanamo? or just in general?
 
we should get JMR and Pyro in here too, but they'd be on our side.
 
JMR for sure
what side are you all on anyways?
 
Lucky, read this. One of the best articles I have read a long time ago to this topic: theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/…
 
9:36 AM
okay
 
\o Rezoom
 
so does everyone just hate America? is that the side that Reno speaks of?
 
hate is the wrong word
 
dislike?
 
Also not America, just American politics and law.
 
9:39 AM
we plain simply don't understand you... the weapon issue, the "nipplegates", the "oh my god you show too much leg" and the "we have to protect our land by fighting across the world in a land only half of the citizen can locate"...
 
what weapon issue?
 
that half of the land feels offended when they are forbidden to wear their awesome M60 in public and shit
 
lol yeah
 
you should see the news we see here in Germany: 5 year old kills his sibling with one shot in the head
 
in the US or Germany?
 
9:43 AM
US
 
is that bad parenting or a gun issue?
 
You will never ever see a German citizen wearing a gun (I mean a pistol!) in plain view...
both!
in Germany you need to have at least the gun locked up in a safe
and an automatic gun is simply forbidden. You might get a license for a pistol, but it would never ever happen that you can get a M4, M16 or a Shotgun...
 
fully automatic guns are illegally in the US
and you have to have license for a pistol as well
 
yeah but wait, a 30 minute wait time to get a gun is against the second amendment...
here you need to make a complete course on how to handle the weapon, basic law knowledge about gun rules etc
and I don't even know ONE gun shop in Berlin... the 3.2 million capital of Germany
 
just to buy one?
 
9:48 AM
I know there must be one or more, but they are rare
"just to buy one" exactly that is the difference. You can't "just buy" a gun here
 
we like our guns here...it is one of the things that our government is trying to take from us
 
and they should
30.000 dead by guns in a year
thats 10 times more than 9.11
 
I just disagree with that completely
 
can i reply to a chat message without triggering a ping? because i really need a cat, a shark costume, a automated vacuum cleaner and a duck. thats amazing. xD
 
9:51 AM
If you are blaming the people instead of the guns you are wrong. There are a lot of nutters out there that don't think before they shoot.
 
you just said nutters
 
again: "just to buy" means that even a crazy person can "just buy" a gun
watch the video and tell me after that, that all the stats mentioned there are wrong... @Lucky
 
Rezoom you may ping me for that :D
 
hihi, allright ^^
 
Yes. There are more nutters out there than you think. Just look at the other Android rooms for example.
 
9:55 AM
@AndersMetnik ping xD
 
Anyway, I'm out of this discussion. I have my reasons not to like the U.S. government and they won't change.
 
Do you dislike me now Octavian?
 
Nope.
Why would I?
 
but I dislike Windows! If anybody give a fuck...
 
9:57 AM
Ignorant Austrians haha
I love hearing everyone's opinions
it is refreshing
 
However, I should note that I don't like my government either.
 
finally a good question and I am not sure if I know the answer for that:
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Q: Large memory chunk not garbage collected

NielsIn a hunt for a memory-leak in my app I chased down a behaviour I can't understand. I allocate a large memory block, but it doesn't get garbage-collected resulting in a OOM, unless I explicit null the reference in onDestroy. In this example I have two almost identical activities that switch betw...

 
I hate my government as well haha
 
all governments have in common that they care more about them self and reelection than about the country they rule... imho
 
that is hiliarious with the crack comment
 
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