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12:11 AM
.actionsEdit {
display: none;
}

.actionsEdit:hover {
display: block;
}

<td>
@chem.Name
<div class="actionsEdit">
<a href="#">Edit</a>
</div>
</td>

how come the hover effect is not working?
to make the <a> to display
 
my guess would be display none is hiding the element so you can't hover over it
but I'm no css guru
 
try to change your css to :
.actionsEdit {
display: hidden;
}
 
12:41 AM
I don't think you can hover over something hidden or display none.
 
1:03 AM
i figured it out
ghetto workaround
just assigned a class to the td
and when hover on td, make actionsEdit visible
but in a tutorial they did somethign similar to this and it worked
so thats why i was confused
i think the problem is that in a td there isnt room for the hidden <a> item to render
 
@peterpep , is this what your want to achive?
 
yea
but that will increase the height of the row
i got it working so when i hover chem.Name it displays the edit link
your approach is something ill keep in mind though in case i get issues with my approach
 
ok. cool
 
i think this project im working on is so poorly written
lolol but i guess i gotta start somewhere to learn how to do this mvc stuff
 
1:50 AM
does anyone use Moq?
nm I found it
 
2:29 AM
hi guys
gud mrng
 
hi
@KendallFrey
 
i have one doubt
i used post method when submit a user data using fluent api in controller
i used validations in fluent api
when the mandatory field not filled it gives error but the page automatically post backed
how to solve this one
any idea
 
2:32 AM
ok
 
@Suresh Don't mark the field Required in the model?
 
s already i did that
i didnt use data annotations
use fluent api for validate the mandatory field
its working
page refreshed when i click the submit button bcoz i choosed one dropdpwn earlier and forgt to fill mandatory field
tehn click submit
that page refreshed already i choosed dropdown value is 0
so how to stop the page refresh
then i want to call post method using Jquery i know how to call but in fluent validation run by controller only
so it wil return view(model)
so usinh jquery means how to do possible
@SeventhSon
 
2:50 AM
i dont get this
im looking at the _Layout.cshtml that is default in aspnet mvc 5
when i start shrinking the width of the window the navbar eventually creates a button that when you press it opens up all the items on navbar to be viewed
how the heck to get that to be the default function
if needed i can upload a picture
 
@peterpep I think that's in the CSS
Media queries
 
bootstrap.css?
 
@peterpep Use inspect element
 
3:33 AM
lol im doing things in such a bad way i think
 
3:47 AM
why do you think they are bad?
 
fistbump
 
on purpose trying to through everything back to my controllers and not use JS
 
I'm really enjoying MVC
 
it's pretty cool if you come from older tech
 
Don't get to use it much but recently had the chance.
I've been doing webforms for 15 years
 
3:56 AM
I came from win forms
I miss them
layouts were much easier in the designer than browser specific css ;(
 
@hsimah You're the first person I heard say that!
 
dock to fill was my favourite
 
Oh, I've never used the designer. Hate it
 
I used it to put all my controls on the form, then I would code edit to put them in the correct spot
it wasn't very good
I struggle with css and html sometimes
bootstrap makes things much easier
 
@hsimah Welcome to CSS
@hsimah Yeah it does.
 
3:58 AM
I had to do this thing. we have a left hand panel with two smaller panes inside, stacked
 
!!css
 
they need to take up up to 50% of the height before scrolling, but to collapse to a minimum size if the height shrinks
 
in win forms = 5 mins
in css = two bloody days
 
Oh, yeah, I noticed that using the designer was pretty neat when I had a chance to use XAML with Blend. Very nice
 
Jze
4:21 AM
@hsimah ,you should love bootstrap for only cross browser work.I love it too.
 
 
2 hours later…
6:18 AM
hi guys!
 
@JARRRRG InPtoc was the issue then?
*InProc
!!bumhead
 
@garfbradaz That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!monad
 
@garfbradaz That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: monday
 
7:01 AM
Good morning guys
 
Good morning.
 
7:16 AM
Is there anyone who can help me about MDI problem? stackoverflow.com/questions/42336825/…
 
Ooh, WinForms and MDI. Two things I haven't done in over a decade.
 
Is this room only handle about asp.net?
 
ASP.NET. WPF. WebAPI. Console applications. UWP. WinForms, if you have to. WebForms, if someone's holding you at gunpoint.
Just, you know, code, regardless of UI framework.
 
@TonyJang I personally despise MDI, it's such a hassle and not supported well... (see excels MDI)
 
Visual Studio uses it extensively, though.
 
7:28 AM
Baguette++ uses MDI too
 
But it is familiar to many clients, i think
 
@TonyJang Mostly power users, I think. Which is fine. I'm not against MDI, I just haven't developed any MDI apps in a while.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Thanks for your answers. So, is there the way showing different forms like web in winforms?
 
EHLO
 
We're actually kinda moving our WPF app to MDI at the moment. Not classic MDI, but we're moving to support several persistent floating tool windows in addition to the main window, for showing query results.
@satibel 250 Hello satibel
 
7:38 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan you got the reference, have a virtual cookie.
 
@satibel There was a time, in my youth, when I administered Exchange servers and could talk SMTP straight from the telnet console.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan there was a time where I found it fun to mess with people by sending them mail from their own address. (e.g. "I am you from the future, please don't forward crap powerpoints, people don't care.")
 
@satibel Yeah, though it's pretty easy to do with scripting as well.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan i prefer to think of visual stuio as using tabs not the klassic MDI way
 
I think a docking layout is a specific type of MDI. Windows can either be free-floating or nested inside other windows.
While the toolbar and top-level window chrome remains shared.
 
7:48 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I agree
and each window has control box
 
Yeah, just the bare minimum of window chrome, usually.
 
If there is a project (Web API & EF) that has about 50 entities, if 30 of them has the same list of properties and the same API actions, the only difference is the name of the entity. The current is that each entity has its own page and operations, but I think it must be simpler than this, I didn't use reflections before. Would reflection be the key to that situation?
 
@MohamedAhmed maybe make a superclass that has the properties and actions and make each entity inherit from it?
 
Factory pattern?
 
Reflection should only come in as an approach after you've exhausted options for restructuring and redesign.
 
8:04 AM
Any one ever worked with lotus notes?
 
@Nerdintraining A bit. I've also worked with sharpened needles jabbed into my flesh. The experience was similar.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I couldn't have said it better myself
 
@MohamedAhmed I agree with @satibel. If you have thirty different classes that are identical, make them all either inherit BaseEntity or implement an interface, and write just one class that can handle that base entity.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan And know i am wodnering why you've jabbed sharpened needles into your flesh Ôo
 
@Nerdintraining It's R&D's job to implement the product, not decide what it should be.
 
8:07 AM
^^
 
Morn all
 
fakir 2.0 :
watch as I add a functionality to this undocumented assembly program that has been modified by a single person since 1990.
gaze in awe as I use lotus notes.
 
If each entity has its own table in the DB how I would use that super class to call the table:
ex: context.Accounts.Select(x => new AccountViewModel{//init properties});
 
@Ggalla1779 Good morning
 
@MohamedAhmed have a virtual function/property that returns the table name
 
8:10 AM
The lotus notes debugger is so awesome, it blocks every interaction with the client tool and the dev tool so that you can focus 100% on the debugger.
This function not only helps you concentrate on the execution of code but also with it's lack of a search function to find the place you are looking for, it provides you with the real sherlock holmes experience.
 
@TonyJang Thanks I will read more about it
 
good morning
 
osoyo
 
@satibel wow
 
8:19 AM
@satibel the name (the nameof) ?
 
@MohamedAhmed what do you mean?
 
@satibel You said that the property return the name of the table :D
 
nameof is a function that will give a property's name as a string. a property returning the name of the table is a hand written property
 
@satibel you use ibm notes?
 
@MohamedAhmed basically
public abstract class YourSuperClass
{
    // Your class implementation

    public abstract string GetDBTableName();

    public void DoSomethingElse(int a, string b)
    {
        // You can implement this here
    }
}
@Nerdintraining I am not a masochist :p
who gives me random stars?
 
8:36 AM
@satibel And then based on the name I select which table to be fetched?
 
@satibel FYI, i work ina department that deals with lotus notes in core
 
stars are for useless memes, not useful stuff.
@MohamedAhmed yup.
you could also have a function that gets stuff from the table. So if you have one with multiple tables, you are not screwed.
 
@Nerdintraining the notion of a debugger for Notes is farcical, as it implies that the bugs could conceivably be removed
 
@TomW Bug redistributor, maybe? Making sure the bugs are elsewhere at this particular moment in time?
 
I have to hold back not to star every message that trashes Lotus Notse sowmuch hatered
 
8:48 AM
lotus notes has some redeeming qualities:
you can write text in it.
somewhere there's a text field, and you can use it as it was intended by the name, to put notes.
 
We have a client that's currently transitioning from Lotus Notes to Office365, and they're like "Wait, if it can just work this way, why were we doing it the other way all these years?"
 
Welcome to Lotus Notes
 
"written in C++, java, C, and HTML"
.......................... ^ that's why it's a clusterduck.
(gratuitous java bashing.)
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan kek
If i'm not mistaken we have Office365 here aswell but notes is sstill the runner
 
mate's previous company did an extended study on whether to replace their 'mail' system, trialed a bunch of different options, canvassed opinions and everything
and stuck with Notes
 
8:55 AM
@TomW In many cases, that's probably the right option. Lots of Notes users have had it for decades and have business processes and applications built on top of it.
 
then ALL THEY HAVE BUILT WILL FALL
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan @TomW We have allot of buisness applications (for internal use only) built on notes
 
You ever have when you're gardening, that you pull up a weed and it turns out it's threaded its way into everything, and you keep pulling and pulling and once you get to the end of it you realise it was all the weeds and your garden is clear?
That's Notes.
 
@Nerdintraining I'm imagining Ray Ozzie cackling maniacally in his Redmond office.
Oh, he's not at Microsoft anymore.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan kek, i had to google it and it amused me
 
9:08 AM
@TomW on the opposite side of the spectrum you have just pulled out your entire garden, not just the weeds from this root
 
!!Vote ChangeChannelName To C# (with trace amounts of IBM Notes bashing)
 
@Nerdintraining vote registered
 
9:38 AM
Morning all o/
@Nerdintraining I see you changed your name Again
or is it still the same from last time
 
@Kieran Mornin' long time ago^^
Its my "original" name^^
 
ah ok
 
@Kieran you are only a few weeks late this time? :p
mornin'
 
@satibel Nah, I started a new job
got flexi
 
My last company was using Pegasus Mail
 
9:49 AM
can start later if i want c:
 
nice
http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/radio-frequency-development-kits/7536795/
300$, are you kidding me?
https://www.amazon.com/Zalman-ZM-VE350-Enclosure-Emulator-ZM-V350S/dp/B019C23LRA
this comes with a screen, buttons and stuff, and costs 40$, it's the same chip.
why are demo boards so expensive?
 
 
1 hour later…
11:20 AM
crunches puffed wheat angrily
 
volume?
 
@TomW /dev/sdb2
 
fnar
I mean, the number which they manufacture makes a difference to the unit price
how many people need a...whatever one of those is
 
demo board.
but, I can get 10 of those for less than 100$
 
 
2 hours later…
1:02 PM
o/
good morning
 
Good morning @SteveG
 
what a slow day
3 more hours :/~
 
:(
 
1:39 PM
@KendallFrey
 
already you awaken the kendall
 
Mr. Fry
there is no spoon
 
what are we summoning here?
 
an ancient slumbering god
 
we're attempting to summon The Mr. Fry
it usually only comes out of hiding when it hears Haskell mentioned
 
1:41 PM
well since i'm bored i don't care what happens
 
maybe we can set a trap
 
Haskell garbage like php
 
come forth @KendallFrey
 
woah
you went too far
 
!!itsatrap
 
1:42 PM
@juanvan Input not matching /http:\/\/tvtropes.org\/pmwiki\/randomitem.php?p=1'/. Help: User-taught command: '<>@Zirak
 
bla
LMAO
 
what the hell was that joke
 
i'm happy you came
 
IT HAS BEEN SUMMONED
 
was a poke at woman
 
1:43 PM
NOW IS THE TIME TO KILL IT WITH FIRE AND STEEL
GO FORTH MY SOLDIERS
 
-> ->
 
DEUS VULT
 
@KendallFrey
 
Why would you use C# instead of F#
 
1:49 PM
for the same reason you use PHP over C#
 
that is a damn good point
do they really do that?
fail
 
5 star hotel
 
environments are interchangable and disposable, not people
 
very much so
 
2:01 PM
If people aren't interchangeable and disposable, your code isn't readable enough
 
if productivity was summed up in readability, I'd be reading books all day
 
my former company's code was so unreadable, that finding out why something have a specific effect was usually days. Be productive in that...
productivity very much relates to readability IMHO
 
but somewhere in there of that unreadable code is a reversed binary tree
 
which I would not find in 1 day in the code. If I'm a genius in binary tree algorithms, and it takes me 2 day to get down to business, I'm not productive, am I.
where to put my code is a question of great importance. If someone can answer it fast, than my productivity depends on that person. If I can find out the answer fast, it makes the whole company's productivity fast
 
2:25 PM
Oh did I miss Moon Owl?
 
if you want we can bring him back
say his name 3 times fast into the coffee at your desk
 
Okay, I did. Nothing happened but I'm forging new relationships where none previously existed with HR and building security.
 
2:39 PM
Does anyone know how I can get Visual Studio to stop scanning for errors every time I make a change to the code?
At least I assume that's what it's doing
Or at least do a multithreaded thing where it doesn't lock up the editor
 
Which version of VS do you have?
 
2015
 
I've had that problem in the past but it was caused by the Git integration
Think it was with 2013 though
 
We don't use Git
 
That doesn't mean Git integration isn't turned on
 
2:41 PM
I installed PowerCommands. Maybe that had something to do with it?
 
Possible.
 
Where would I turn off Git integration?
 
Tools -> Options -> Source Control
 
It's set to Team Foundation like it's supposed to be
 
!!shrug
 
2:44 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
But I'd start with turning off extensions before I turned off ad-hoc compilation errors.
That seems like it would cause more problems than it would solve.
 
it may also be a sign your hdd is dying or overloaded.
 
72Gigs free out of 222, and it's a solid state.
And I think less than a year old
Definitely less than 2
 
3:05 PM
I mean, you can have a program overloading your I/O, though that's hard on an ssd.
 
3:27 PM
Quick question for everyone
Anyone experienced the issue in VS where the context menu will blink when typing?
 
@misha130 nice
i liekd that read
@Kieran NO QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU MISTER!
 
@Nerdintraining BUT WHY
 
@Kieran CUZ OF REASONS
 
:c
 
♥
 
3:35 PM
What do you mean by context menu? The right click menu?
 
no
as in when im typing a @Html.TextBoxFor(x => x.
When i get to the x. bit
The list of variables i can choose pops up for like half a second
then disappears
Only way i can fix it is to remove the model & re-add it to the view
and even then its only a temp fix
 
Did you restart VS?
 
Yep
 
Then I'm all out of ideas.
 
This is the second time i've encountered this
completely different machine as well
from the first time
 
3:45 PM
afternoon
 
@RoelvanUden 2015 bug apparently
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A: VS 2015 Razor Autocomplete/Intellisense dropdown hides immediately after dropdown

friggleThis happens for me all throughout VS2015 during lambda statements. It happens when editing code "mid-document", as in, if there is anything besides a ) or } following where I'm typing. VS appears to be struggling to tell where the current statement ends & the next statement begins. The follow...

 
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@RoelvanUden kek
Okay guys
its about to stoprainign i gotta use this windwos of opportnity
seeing you guys around :)
 
4:08 PM
lol
Trying to throw an exception that throws another exception in its only constructor is hard
I eventually figured it out, though:
throw (Exception)FormatterServices.GetUninitializedObject(typeof(ExceptionCollection)); // wat
 
4:48 PM
I have a webservice that returns a list of objects. One of the properties in the class for that object is a List of another class. I can step through the code and I can see that in the webservice, that inner list is getting filled in. The data is there. But when it gets returned to the client, the inner list for every object is empty, even though all the rest of the properties are fine.
 
@Hypersapien Is the data actually being transferred over the network?
 
I don't know. I can't get Fiddler to pick up anything coming in or out of this project.
I mean, there's an endless stream of vshub packets
 
@Hypersapien Just filter those out
 
I do. There's nothing else
 
5:10 PM
Are you connecting to localhost or some other hostname?
 
localhost
 
I'm off home
later all o/
 
o/
 
5:27 PM
@Hypersapien Fiddler won't pick up localhost traffic. You can use localhost.fiddler as the hostname to work around that.
 
excitement has entered the room
 
Is that a euphemism?
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
no euphemism
 
5:32 PM
1 message moved to Trash
 
wtf is happening in here
 
The usual.
 
He unfriended me on Steam
 
clutches pearls Oh no, he couldn't!
 
Actually he blocked me
 
5:38 PM
already you awaken the steve
 
I HAVE AWAKENED
 
> Kendall Frey has started playing HuniePop
 
hi stranger
 
wow
when you ignore somebody in chat
it has a neat animation to it
 
lmao
 
5:49 PM
I'm trying to find and uninstall an app using the following, but I don't fully understand why it keeps exiting with code 1619 (ERROR_INSTALL_PACKAGE_OPEN_FAILED). I think it's waiting for the response from Consent.exe, but it never gives the process the chance before it exits. The permission box comes up, but whether or not I choose "Yes," it exits with that code. What am I missing?

using System;
using System.Diagnostics;
using System.Linq;
using System.Management;
using System.Windows;

namespace UninstallTestApp
Anyone have any ideas?
 
you are not pointing to the package?
   Arguments = string.Format("/x {0} /qn", app["PackageCode"].ToString().Split(new char[] {'{', '}'}, StringSplitOptions.RemoveEmptyEntries).First())
what does this line look like in run time
 
That's the msi's ID.
It's just a GUID.
 
ERROR_INSTALL_PACKAGE_OPEN_FAILED points that you are not reaching the exe to uninstall
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Q: Uninstallation of Application Programmatically

AyushI have used the following code for uninstalling my c# application through programmatically. string[] arguments = Environment.GetCommandLineArgs(); foreach (string argument in arguments) { if (argument.Split('=')[0].ToLower() == "/u") { string guid = argument.Split('=')[1]; ...

Here is a working example
 
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