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user3956566
11:00 AM
ok will try hang on
 
just throwing ideas around that may or may not work :)
 
@ArtOfCode I like ur name. have a cookie ^^
 
@Mr.Toxy sweet, cookies are awesome
 
@ArtOfCode ikr, cookies are the best
 
user3956566
@ArtOfCode when I use local Lockin lockin instead of var , it works, but I would expect it would
 
11:03 AM
Does anyone have any decent links that explain why you might choose Application Insights over New Relic or vice versa?
Are they essentially the same?
 
@Yvette right, so it's definitely something to do with the former being a class variable and the latter being a method variable
 
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Q: Comparison between NewRelic and Azure Insights

mauriciod73I'm looking into using a performance and monitoring tool for my web application hosted on Azure and was wondering what the main differences are between Microsoft's AppInsights and NewRelic. Thanks

 
What's the actual issue? If the other solution works, what's wrong with using that?
 
@Mr.Toxy I've seen that, not helpful.
 
You could always reassign Lockin = lockin; when the db commit is done
 
Rob
11:04 AM
@Yvette What is calling ProductionSummary?
 
user3956566
@ArtOfCode I can try and take the static out
 
AppDynamics is not Application Insights.
 
just use the one that fits ur needs the best
 
user3956566
@Rob I have a method that checks if Lockin.HasProdsumm == a constant (it's null until it's changed)
 
Rob
11:05 AM
Yep, but what triggers that? A page view?
 
i vouch for relic cause I like the name
 
Rob
Having a static field in an MVC application is always suspicious, and the first place to look
Also, you're loading Lockin, but your context immediately disposes, which can cause problems down the line.. I'd recommend not making Lockin static, if possible
 
@Mr.Toxy :|
 
user3956566
@Rob an index where I call a Load method for ProdSumm
 
user3956566
@Rob I know, I've taking that out.
 
Rob
11:08 AM
Only explanation I can think of, is that another thread is triggering, and changing Lockin while executing the // things to do...
 
user3956566
@Rob they all finish before it is called, I checked it all with break points
 
user3956566
I am wondering what happens if I take out the static for the class variable
 
Rob
Well, because removing the static and changing to a local variable fixes it, the only cause would be the value changing underneath us
You can also debug, and then go into debug -> threads and freeze all other threads
 
user3956566
that's a good idea
 
Rob
Another thing, out of curiosity, is to put a breakpoint on the setter of Lockin
If you haven't already
 
user3956566
11:14 AM
good idea!!!
 
user3956566
ok will try this and be back
 
more and more stuff to do
wow questions I found: "I want to learn Krav Maga but I am afraid that using might hurt someone seriously. Is this martial art deadly?" is this person for real? o.O like what the hell. just totally destroid the whole point of self-defense
 
good morning, it's creamcheese day!
 
yey national creamsheese day
 
@tweray happy hump day!
 
11:23 AM
@tweray you made that up
 
nah... not sure about national, it's more like my office's creamcheese day
 
hahahahahaa
 
it happens once a week btw
 
yey his office creamcheese day
 
I regret to inform you there is only a "NATIONAL CREAM CHEESE BROWNIE DAY"
 
11:24 AM
are you growing over-weighted adults in the office so they get in the oven in xmas?
 
how much does such a delicious human costs?
 
Call me back when it's national bacon month
 
fed with the most premium creamcheese and cured in a low light office
 
or national high blood pressure month
 
11:25 AM
@Ggalla1779 oh my god now i want a cream cheese brownie
 
there is however a "National Fat Bitch Day"...you missed that too
 
or national sex month
 
However @Ggalla1779 I did meet your mother there
 
@MaartenWachters my mother is dead but thanks!
 
@Mr.Toxy 3 months before that, national childbirth month
 
11:26 AM
@Mr.Toxy during which all the people celebrating high blood pressure month die
 
Damn man, sorry @Ggalla1779
 
its fine...long time ago
 
there should be a "make a bby" holliday to fight the lack of newborns. like: "make a bby and enter the lottery"
 
I'm still up for it though Lennyface
 
@TomW HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
11:27 AM
I didn't think it was that funny but ok, sure
 
@KendallFrey a parade with the new borns, crying and peeing all over
 
@Mr.Toxy "make a bb8" holiday?
 
Wtf is even going on
 
I love muffin and coleslaw
 
@TomW in the context of inventing stupid hollidays it was funny
!! c#
 
11:28 AM
May 5 at 15:17, by BoltClock
THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROL
 
thats whats going on
 
Ooh, Cap's back. Didn't notice.
 
I paid her the services I was owing, she came back nicely
 
( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
 
@Mr.Toxy Do I wanna know what "services" you paid for?
 
11:30 AM
@MaartenWachters hmmm Im not sure if caprica would be confortable talking about our relationship :| she's a shy bot
 
You are so weird @Mr.Toxy
 
Vacuuming, welding cars, destroying all carbon-based lifeforms, the usual
 
@MaartenWachters Im joking, but weird is awesome anyways, normal people are boring af.
 
@Mr.Toxy if i don't know you are portuguese, i would guess you from texas
 
what do you have against normal people? If it wasn't for us you would be running after cows now
(although that does not sound that bad)
 
11:41 AM
@Proxy cows? where?!
 
What @Proxy how so
 
@Squiggle hey grandmaster i have a question about english
 
>< talking about joke missing the field
 
@tweray shoot, braw
 
in word agility, does the "g" pronounce as "gee" or "ghee"
 
11:44 AM
"gee" - or "j" as in "juice"
a jill itty
 
gocha, thx master
 
adžiliti
 
np probie. Holla if tha needin' mo' halpz
@Proxy genau
 
so desu
 
was arguing with a dude in TS for like an whole hour until everybody quit the channel
 
11:48 AM
@tweray You're one of those people ...
 
@tweray in Chinese?
/one of the languages Chinese people speak
 
no, was playing online games
 
awww
I have witnessed an argument between two chinese people
Feels like an epic battle
 
dude, if you want to see two english-speaking people fight epic battle, just go watch fox
by epic battle i mean epic battle in 10-year-old level btw
 
Arguing on the internet is great.
 
11:50 AM
lol i just noticed the java-hate tag xd
 
@Mr.Toxy There were 2 problems. One of it is found. The other suddenly disappeared after serval tries.
 
If you want to see 2 drunk english speaking people go to Birmingham
 
@Mr.Toxy I've used "userControl" but MSDN tells about using "Custom control". On that custom Control inheritance can just be written down without any errors. Also it doesnt has a designer-file.
 
i'm pretty sure you can see much more than 2 sir
 
one of the problems is "WinForms", amirite?
 
11:52 AM
@Squiggle Talking to me?
 
@MaartenWachters for drunken arguments, there is no place finer than Glasgow.
 
@Proxy ödzsiliti in hungarian (we mostly write what we speak, except some grammar exceptions. There is no different pronancuation of same character like 's' in sea and she)
 
@C4ud3x ...are you using WinForms?
 
Sure im doing.
 
then you ARE the problem
 
11:52 AM
Anyway thats not the topic, ty. Afk for a smoke.
 
;)
 
YOU are the problem.
"Shut up" then is the answer to your question.
 
j/k you're lovely (but WinForms is still terrible)
 
:)
 
if the 2nd problem is "WebForm", then congratulation! you are completely in the dark side now, now tell me is there's really some cookie on that side?
 
11:56 AM
@ntohl yeah here in croatia it's the same you write what you speak so to say
 
@Squiggle funny you should mention that
Guess where I'm going...
 
Glasgae?
 
i heard scottland is a good place to visit in summer
 
@Squiggle aye ye ken
 
it's like you walk on the street and everybody wear skirt
by everybody i mean everybody
 
12:10 PM
@tweray There's a whole jar of cookies, come on over.
 
really? i'm in
 
@scheien @tweray don't, they're raisin cookies!
 
where do i get my membership card
 
@SteffenWinkler sssh
It's big fat chocolate donuts.
 
@scheien filled with raisins?
 
12:11 PM
rubs hands together like the devil himself
 
morning
 
@SteffenWinkler no no no, no raisins here.
 
we are talking about a serious topic, now tell me! what exactly is the cookie!?
 
Chocolate chippies of course
Just ask Cookiemonster, he's right here.
 
i will file consumer complaint if i see any market scandal!
 
12:12 PM
@Squiggle Glasgow is a great place and my place of birth
 
and we all know that he doesn't like fruit.
> Fruit never does it.
 
@tweray I was up Loch Lomond shores last week jeez sun was out it was great day...took boat tour round Loch...sea plane came into land at Cameron House
 
Hello everyone. Any tips for creating a realtime line chart in ASP.net?
 
@MitchelStuartFountaine Your in luck I have google installed
 
@Ggalla1779 I'm going to be there four days (that I'm aware of). Never been before, was last in Scotland probably 20 years ago
 
12:20 PM
Anyone know if there's a way to get the aspnetcore source symbols?
 
@TomW Well decide where your going...Edinburgh or Glasgow then where else
 
@Ggalla1779 work. Glasgow city centre
 
want to rent my house?
 
I'd have a hard time clearing that on expenses. Central booking in my company
 
am kidding... a hotel close to work would be faster and better
 
12:31 PM
+ your house doesn't cook me breakfast and wash my towels
 
well the swedish blonde I have there would
lol
what part of city you going to be in...city centre itself?
 
Looks like it. Haven't really checked out the geography
 
Well some great places to go there
if you have time
 
Some day I'll be able to afford to go to Europe
 
where you mike
 
12:35 PM
Boston
(Massachusetts USA)
 
I'm never going to europe
no offense to europeans
 
I hate long flights
 
France kind of ruined the whole thing for me
 
@Ggalla1779 yeah. I hate travelling. I like going places, I hate getting there
 
@mikeTheLiar Hyperloop?
 
12:39 PM
@Failsafe what did France do to you?
 
4 hours to spain is about my limit
 
@Failsafe yes please
 
@TomW It was the people who live there
 
Being over 6' tall makes planes a wee bit uncomfortable
 
Some of the worst people i have ever met in my life
 
12:39 PM
balearic islands are just great
 
And being addicted to nicotine doesn't make long flight any more fun
 
Not as bad as germany, They are definitely the wurst
 
yes I agree...hate french...as a visitor
@Failsafe very good
 
@Failsafe DAAAAD! Get off the internet
 
Have you tried not being American? That usually helps
 
12:41 PM
@TomW It's hard to do that
 
@TomW advice for Americans traveling to other countries - pretend to be Canadian
 
They know
First of all you are american until proven otherwise
thats how it works
 
Seriously though, they say you should put a maple leaf pin/badge on your luggage
 
wear a toronto jersey around
every day
 
I guess they can smell the high-fructose corn syrup
Not fooling anyone
 
12:43 PM
Toronto maple leafs jersey with america board shorts
they wont know what to believe
 
Sandals with socks
Who are you?
 
Hello Fellow Peoples!
 
Scandel with socks
 
@mikeTheLiar German, probably
never understood what is wrong with socks & sandals
 
@SteffenWinkler we're discussing how to go incognito as an American abroad
 
12:48 PM
@mikeTheLiar socks & sandals it is. At least in Germany.
also do not pay with a credit card, dead giveaway.
 
Hmm. I was unaware of that stereotype.
 
which one?
 
Americans paying with credit cards
 
oh
from what I gathered they usually don't pay with real money.
also they use cheques
 
Like paper money you mean?
 
12:50 PM
@mikeTheLiar yes. Real money.
 
(Checks|Cheques) are stupid
Paper money is also stupid
 
no it's not. Paper money is untraceable for the most part.
creditcard payments and EC card payments are traceable
 
@SteffenWinkler Steffen are you a spy
 
Personally I don't give a swut about traceability
 
and I'd be really surprised if health insurance providers won't tap into that source of information in the next 10 years.
@Ggalla1779 no just someone who works in IT and is also concerned about electronic payment
 
12:52 PM
damn there goes your life.. should have paid with the burgers with real money:(
 
If you want to know what I'm buying you don't have to have my credit card statements, you just have to ask
 
in 10 years they will just take out blood and say...pay this or go away
 
truth to be said
 
(Inappropriate message to be posted in Slack)
 
@mikeTheLiar right up until the moment your health insurance provider demands you to run 10 minutes more with your healthtracker because you bought 2 backs of potatoe crisps earlier that day.
 
12:52 PM
they can always get to you anyway
 
(slight hyperbole but they are already using those health trackers)
not when I pay with money, not use PayBack or any of the other bonus programs and don't post what I eat on fatstergram
 
well maybe not exactly
but they got you on the camera anyway
meh
 
I would be very surprised if ATMs don't tie serial numbers to your bank account when you withdraw
 
i doubt you can live incognito now
 
luckily I live in Germany. That'd be too much effort for them.
 
12:54 PM
ow come on
 
maybe if you move t o some kind of unhabitated mountain
 
or aberdeen
 
Living un an unhabited mountain would be awesome
 
@Proxy no, I know that. That's not my target either.
Well, I mean, you could potentially.
The question is who do you want to stay 'hidden' from?
 
@SteffenWinkler F**ked up yo
 
12:56 PM
The state? Yeah that's gonna be tough and probably illegal
And also pretty stupid.
But do you want to hide from privat corporations? That's perfectly doable without breaking the law.
 
Until the state starts making things that I do illegal I don't care if they know what I do
 
@SteffenWinkler There was that guy who went into the woods and lived there for 23 years
 
by then it's too late usually @mikeTheLiar
 
Way I look at it, if you have a problem with something I do, that's your issue not mine
 
and broke into peoples cabins to steal food
 
12:57 PM
@Failsafe the Maine guy?
 
yeah maybe
 
yea
 
Into the wild
 
He was in IT. Can't trust those guys
 
12:58 PM
@mikeTheLiar for a split second I was thinking wether to star that or to flag it...
@mikeTheLiar the problem with that statement is that it is like quantum mechanics: It works on a really small scale but if you scale it up, it doesn't work anymore.
 
I feel like lately this room has become Minesweeper. More flags then normal.
 
user47589
tough decisions
 

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