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9:00 PM
I just read that he had 130GB of data and was experiencing dismal performance
 
Bon
oic
 
As soon as I posted that I knew what was wrong
 
who the hell makes a VPN disconnect after 8 hours
my work day is longer than 8 hours, retard
 
@KendallFrey whoever they are I think I know them
I had to implement an hourly poll to grab the WSDL from a webservice sitting on some random box to stop the connection dying
as a scheduled task
To all stupid put all "Enterprise" in your asshole
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We don't ever have to stop this, do we?
 
user47589
click Send
 
9:13 PM
I have a domain of nobody, so prolly won't work
 
Someone would get it :)
 
@TomW I created outlook group of "all stupid" in your mailbox
 
It would just mailer daemon right back to your inbox
 
user47589
okay, figure this one out. i'm working on a dynamicproxy interceptor. the invocation method takes 1 argument. In my debugger window, I see the object right where it should be in the invocation.Arguments array. However, when I try invocation.Arguments[0], it gives me null. The result of that expression isn't null in my watch window, but its null in my code.
 
Should have shotted it in Notes
@Amy I've never understood the Watch window
 
user47589
9:18 PM
in my code i have this line: var engine = invocation.Arguments[0];. engine is null in my watch window. invocation.Arguments[0] directly in my watch window is not null.
 
It's been inconsistent with the debugger often enough that I lost interest in trying to use or understand it so I just don't
There must be something I'm doing wrong, but I'm not interested enough to find out
 
user47589
the watch window is consistent with the Immediate window
 
@Amy whenever I see weird shit like that I have to double check if I'm running in debug or release mode
 
user47589
i'm in debug mode.
 
And make sure that I'm attaching to the right process
 
9:20 PM
@KendallFrey one of my gigs as a consultant had my VPN disconnect after every 30min. And I had to 2FA again every time to log back in
 
@Codeman I see bullshitters. some of them don't even know they're bullshit
 
:)
hows it going
 
@SteveG woop woop
 
that good huh
 
funnily enough yes
I'm 30 on Monday and I'm stoked
 
9:23 PM
good
why
thats when stuff starts hurting
 
Arranged a pretty good birthday...I won't say party
but gathering.
 
sweet
 
The party is meant to be spontaneous
 
lol
you arranged it
 
> I won't say party
Party was not arranged
Dinner was arranged. Now diners, this is not the time for party. That comes later.
 
9:25 PM
we'll have to arrange something in here, like a birthday cake and...
 
oh fuck cake
 
<a bunch of vulgar stuff>
 
for the next two weeks I shall be writing... java...script...unit...tests... kill me plz?
 
Cake didn't even occur to me
 
yessss that sounds like you're on the path to death anyway
lol really
 
9:26 PM
Nope
I only eat sweet stuff if it's given to me, otherwise I'm not really interested
 
i'll get you a pizza with magic shrooms on it, and won't say a word
 
Steve, you truly are That Friend.
 
wait, i have a FRIEND?
 
Smaller letters plz
let's not imply seriousness
 
oh
darn
:'(
 
9:29 PM
The one who, were he to get arrested for something you might have been involved in, you'd think "Well, he had a good life"
 
lol
im so tired
 
user47589
wtf. if i rename the variable to "engine2", the problem goes away. There isn't another "engine" in scope.
 
user47589
wtf
 
clean?
 
user47589
tried that.
 
9:31 PM
idk
might as well just throw the computer out, it's obviously defective
 
@Amy lol. Reminds me of two unit tests we had that both got a handle to the same non-existent filename. If you passed them the same (non-existent!) file name, they're fail. You'd have to pass them different files names to be able to run the two tests as part of the same test suite.
 
user47589
wow
 
....
how was that even an issue
if that's a problem, they're not unit
if it's not obvious how to make them unit, delete them
 
Why isn't there a cut paste / copy paste option in TFS :o?
 
copy/paste what?
 
9:39 PM
Folders. I just want to be able to cut paste from one folder to another folder, like in windows explorer :p
directories, whatever
 
In TFS?
 
yes
 
folders of source files?
 
I don't understand.
 
You can branch :^)
 
9:41 PM
Branches? We don't need no steenkin' branches!
 
I have to create a new branch just to cut paste a directory? wow.
 
Oh, cut and paste
Why not rename?
 
how does renaming solve the problem of not being able to cut and paste?
 
@Nathvi technically that is a rename, not a cut and paste
but ya know... I only work on TFS (when it's convenient to say so)
 
@Codeman, so... rename doesn't actually rename the folder...
 
9:43 PM
technically you are renaming all of the files
 
folders don't actually exist in any VCS that I know of. you are simply changing the path to the file
 
I'm so confused. I wish I knew tfs better
 
lulz
Oh, see, I thought you were looking for a solution to a problem you're facing. If you just want a bunch of links to things that may or may not work, I'd recommend Google - it's a hell of a lot faster and less judgmental. — Shog9 ♦ 9 mins ago
 
let's say you have 2 apples, you cut and paste these apples to another shelf. how many apples do you have?
 
9:47 PM
@MikeAsdf - 5000. I cut my apples with a food processor.
 
Is it your shelf or somebody else's?
now I want apple pie.
 
warm apple pie?
it should just be the weekend already
using DayOfWeek.Today = DayOfWeek.Friday;
 
Particular Friday not specified.
Welcome to 0001 AD.
 
great, still have AD's 2000 years ago
 
@MikeAsdf you have 4 1/2 iPhones that are worthless but are glued to your shelf
 
9:54 PM
I'm learning how COM works via pluralsight videos. Feeling a bit overwhelmed with it all and wondering if I'll ever use it outside of this one thing I happen to be working on right now.
 
@Jakotheshadows - How are you liking using pluralsight?
 
Its pretty good.
As to how it is vs something like lynda, I don't know yet
I pay for the pluralsight account myself, my work offers free lynda
 
I feel like SO has corrupted the way I learn about tech
 
haven't tried lynda yet though
 
I tried to learn about COM once
Does the term 'interface' in C# come from COM? Obviously they're very different
Conceptually similar? Vaguely, not sure of specifics
 
9:57 PM
I doubt it. I'm more inclined to believe it comes from Java
 
Ah, but where did Java get it from?
 
Well, since Java is made to be portable across platforms, I doubt they'd name one of their language constructs after something created by Microsoft
 
boom :D solved this weeks math issue
actually to be honest it took me like 12 days to solve, but it was still the main thing I have been working on this week
ah, so eager to not work on maths
@TomW - So where did that scotch go? :P
 
C# however, shamelessly borrows from Java and does it better. Kinda like how Jimmy Hendrix did All Along The Watchtower better than Bob Dylan, or Johnny Cash did The Gambler better than Kenny Rogers
 
@TravisJ what scotch? I dunno what you're talking about
 
10:01 PM
@TomW - I see how it is
 
@Jakotheshadows need to listen now
god bless you sir
 
@TravisJ nom nom
The place I'm having dinner has 25 year old Macallan
Which if I recall rightly is £55 a glass
 
Can someone help me? I have created a webservice on azure, and published it - under release Options I selected "debug" how can I Login now, I added my Microsoft account already as an owner, didn't work. I tried to Login after calling the myproject.azurewebsite.net/help
 
We drank a whole bottle of that bowmore at my bachelor party in like an hour lol, I felt kinda bad but w/e
@TomW - Not bad, although I prefer more smoke than the Macallan
 
10:04 PM
{"message":"Authorization has been denied for this request."}
^^
that is the json Response I'm getting
 
@TravisJ I'm not a super smokey fan, just enough is good. The darker ones with various barrel effects tend to be nice indeed
 
@TomW - Once they get to like 20+ years aged though it really doesn't matter as much - they are all so good
 
Talisker for me is nice in the right mood, Laphroaig is nice once
 
Yeah I am not much of a fan of Laphroaig, maybe if there isn't anything else available. Lagavulin is really good for its price though, $50 for an 16 yr old bottle. My actual favorite isn't even technically scotch, it is Irish Whiskey but it has peat in it so it tastes like scotch, and that is Connemara.
@TomW - The main problem that I have with buying scotch by the glass is that once the bottle is opened it goes bad after like a week.
 
@TravisJ Lagavulin similar, intense enough that I won't want another
 
10:10 PM
@TomW - So if you purchase a glass of scotch from a bottle that has been opened for a long time, it isn't the same. It has been too oxidized at that point unless it was sealed with Argon gas.
@TomW - Do you have Vom Fass near you?
 
I have heard that statement and I've heard as many people insist just as strongly that scotch going off is a myth
@TravisJ don't know what that is
 
@TomW - It is a company that sells fancy scotch at store front, started in Germany but it is pretty popular in the states now too
@TomW - You can really tell the difference between a fresh bottle and one which has been opened for a while.
@TomW - Especially with the ones that have peat
@TomW - There is one in Milton Keynes and one in Cardiff in Britain
 
That's pretty far on both counts
 
Yeah, bummer. They have free tastings :P
 
Been to Milton Keynes for a shopping trip once, it's not unachievable, may have another reason to go next time
 
10:31 PM
I have an issue, and I thought I had a solution so solve it, but that's not working. I have a website that needs to load a specific "config" up based on a subdomain so it can correctly load Unity settings. I thought about doing this early on, but the App_Start doens't have access to the Request.
Is there a way to tell .NET / IIS to use a specific web.config based on the "IIS" application?
 
Erm
 
Ie: I have an IIS website FOO that points to C:\1\
And another IIS website called BAR that points to c:\1\
I want each one to have a unique wb.config
 
web.config is usually per application
Oh.
 
The previous lead created 4 websites with the exact same code, so when one changes, you have to put it through all 4.
the only difference is the config
So... i want to do the above, with custom configs
If I have access to the Context.Request I could do:
           if (System.Web.HttpContext.Current.Request.Url.HostNameType == UriHostNameType.Dns)
            {
                string host = System.Web.HttpContext.Current.Request.Url.Host;
                if (host.Split('.').Length > 2)
                {
                    var lastIndex = host.LastIndexOf(".");
                    var index = host.LastIndexOf(".", lastIndex - 1);
                    string sd = host.Substring(0, index);
                    if (sd != "www")
 
@RyanTernier you can do something like that with the config rewriting publishing stuff, right?
where you have web.ConfigurationName.config and it rewrites the config on build?
 
10:34 PM
@MichaelEdenfield I currently have that for our tech stack / developer names
ie: web.RTERNIER.config
web.STAGING.config
web.PRODUCTION.config
but I need to have the same for the other apps as I'll needt to test those
 
I hate how azure doesn't let you specify role size as a runtime config thing. It's baked into the csdef and you have to create a new package when changing it.
We set up some build server powershell to generate N packages for our N possible environment sizes.
 
@MikeAsdf am a bit noob with Azure but not sure what you're referring to
web roles?
 
yeah, and worker roles
 
@RyanTernier - don't use app start
protected void Application_BeginRequest()
        {
            //var hc = HttpContext.Current;
        }
 
@TravisJ I just started on this project.
App_Start configures all the IoC containers, and site settings
Configures controllers default namespace , setups up jobs, routes, etc.
 
10:42 PM
@RyanTernier - And all of that is in web.config files?
 
Well refactor out only the web.config part into beginrequest
 
what's in the web config are specific settings to tell it what kind of application it is, etc.
4 MVC projects in Visual Studio. All teh same code base. All inherit a Base.UI (views) and Base.Controllers(controllres) project
I want to start killing them as they're the same code, but each one gets setup differently based on the web.config
I know App_Start is called once, so I was hoping to just piggy back on the current setting initialization that is done there.
 
Nah, you can't. Here is why: App_Start is called when the host service is started - but there have been no requests yet.
 
Yea, I figured that out. So that's a non starter... I'm trying to find another solution
I have IX.com. I need to have SH.IX.com. It's the exact same code, but needs a few things set that are currently stored in the web.config (for it's own project)
If I could tell IIS to use a specific web.config for that project, I'd do it. I "could" also tell TeamCity to just deploy copies of the same website with a custom web.config...
is there a method that's called only once during the IIS application startup for MVC that has a valid Request object?
 
10:48 PM
You could use a flag in the app_request method
I can't quite tell from your description so far as it lacks details for how complex this seems. In my opinion what you want is possible but it would probably require refactoring to be done to best practice. In all honesty, simply pointing the subdomain to separate hosted applications seems like a better idea to me.
 
@TravisJ I agree with your 2nd point. Sorry if I'm not clearly expressing my confusion ;)
I should be able to tell TeamCity to Build this project, but when done, copy the "web.config" from /config/sh/web.config to the main directory
 
You are expressing it fine, it is just that I would have follow up questions. And probably then more follow ups. And then...
 
Haha
I've been here almost 1 month. Hired as CTO/Dev Mgr. 1 week in I hear that the other developers had all given notice... they went 2-3 months with no dev leadership so they decided to leave.
Afterwards I hear from them all "I want to stay, you rock, best boss I ever had. but I already signed the offer from company X"
<pulls hair out>
 
ouch, burned by the X-Men once again
fuuuu Charles!
@RyanTernier - So now you guys have to hire a whole set of new devs?
 
I used Unity, IoC, DI, Nhibernate, etc. But this system uses them in very complicated ways
@TravisJ Yea, I'm hiring a Sr. and an Int. right away
 
10:55 PM
ugh, hiring
I have to interview two people on tuesday
 
My old team wants to leave CGI to come over, but I got an email from CGI saying I'm not allowed to hire CGI employees for 1 year due to my contract
 
@RyanTernier did you get into "what would it take to tear that offer up?" or were you not in that position?
@RyanTernier those clauses are unenforceable, tell them ti stick it
 
@TomW CGI sued my friend for leaving and taking another friend with her. IT was "thrown" out in court, but non the less they went through with it to show they won't back down / be walked on
I have a crazy ex wife. I don't need a crazy ex-company
 
Fair
 
@TomW The one guy that's left doesn't want to work with a specific person here. I told him "You work for me, not them. I will never put you in a position to do X again if you don't want to. If anyone has a problem with my devs, it's a problem with me. yada yada". he respected that, but he has more honor than he knows what to do with :|
 
10:58 PM
> when u have a paladin in ur squad and u lawful evil
 
haha
So now I have to figure out this thing... @TravisJ Thanks for your advice.
been 5 years since I really played deep into MVC, thing has changed so much since version 2
 
lol, that feel when you're browsing a repo on github and trying to figure out what is/isn't working and you look at the name and realize it's someone that works at your company that you can IM.
mmmm
 
ohhhh PB!
 
so gooooood
 
11:11 PM
@RyanTernier our new guy has never used Windows machines, I think
 
@TravisJ well he didn't know what task manager was...
 
good ol' three finger salute
 
so when does this chat show images vs showing just a link?
 
@Codeman eh?
 
11:55 PM
@RyanTernier canadian eh or inquisitive eh?
 

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