« first day (1873 days earlier)      last day (3090 days later) » 

10:00 PM
well, they've never seen touch screens
 
I think "giddy" would probably be more accurate
 
was star trek touch screen?
 
user47589
did the original star trek have touchscreen datapads?
 
im not sure
 
@SteveG TNG premiered in 1988 IIRC :P
 
10:00 PM
and yeah, they were just working on touch screens in the 80s
A touchscreen is an input device normally layered on the top of an electronic visual display of an information processing system. A user can give input or control the information processing system through simple or multi-touch gestures by touching the screen with a special stylus/pen and-or one or more fingers. Some touchscreens use ordinary or specially coated gloves to work while others use a special stylus/pen only. The user can use the touchscreen to react to what is displayed and to control how it is displayed; for example, zooming to increase the text size. The touchscreen enables the user...
A guy with the unfortunate name of Bent Stumpe created the first working prototype in the early 1970s, for CERN
 
lol
 
user47589
wow, that IS an unfortunate name
 
lmao
my Tech teacher in middle school's name with Dick Butts
Richard Butts...
 
@Codeman You have a second.
@Codeman Visual Studio just did an update, then TFS locked the entire solution so I can't change any files. How do I unlock it?
 
@Greg shit on the floor
 
10:03 PM
I think if you showed a smartphone to people in the 1980s they'd be more astonished by the time travel
 
get schwifty
@Greg I know very little about TFS :/
 
@TomW oh i didn't think about that, lol yeah
 
I'd restart the machine.
 
the tech itself, the response would be "Well I guess that's about the pace of technological progress I'd expect. Can I have a go?"
 
I'll try that
 
user47589
10:04 PM
i have TFS, encountered this recently, but dont remember solution
 
user47589
have you tried turning it off and on again?
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson did first commit.
 
The simpler among us would be blown away, but the engineers would be all "Yeah, okay, all right"
 
@Elyse ok first pull
 
user1804599
lol :p
 
10:06 PM
@ShotgunNinja engineers would be like "so how did you break thermodynamics? Oh, fusion... interesting..."
 
I still think we're never going to get a time machine, if only because we haven't had a single jackass come back and be like "I'M FROM THE FUTURE BITCHES"
 
@ShotgunNinja this has been thought about a lot
 
think about how crazy of a time we live in, we've connected billions and billions of people together on the planet, if you take a step back, and look at how amazing of an accomplishment that is..... how long will we be connected? What will be after the internet? whats the next step. is there a next step?
 
and yeah, divergent timelines and shit, multiple universes theory
 
user47589
John Titor
 
10:07 PM
The next step is like any step before it; gradual, eventual, revolutionary improvement
 
i mean, if you think just a couple hundred years ago, peopl ehad to walk miles to go talk to their neighbors, now you just press a button and boom
 
We'll make the Internet of People after we finish the Internet of Things
 
(who talks to their neighbors? nobody, but still)
 
1) The multiverse exists and any backward travel ends up in a universe that isn't ours 2) The physics of it make it impossible to go back to before the machine is invented 3) It's banned and the ban is enforced perfectly
 
@TomW Point 3 is completely unlikely
 
10:09 PM
4) They do, they're constantly trying to kill Hitler, that's why the world is so fucked up
 
user47589
all the time travelers are too busy having a time war to go back and kill hitler
 
Point 2 is an incredibly arbitrary restriction, since the matter that would be formed into a time machine is already present
 
5) Actually using it is so expensive in unobtainium that every attempt is meticulously planned and we've never noticed
 
so the time machine already exists, it's just "scattered" right now
Point 4 is possible; we still don't know for sure whether Hitler committed suicide
 
@Elyse some stuff is missing sanityc proj and tree.cs, not important just letting you know
 
10:10 PM
even more possible when joined with Point 5
 
user47589
wouldn't a time traveler kill hitler BEFORE he maximized evil?
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson Weird, I renamed Tree.cs to AST.cs in Solution Explorer.
 
user1804599
It builds fine on my machine.
 
@Amy Maybe the time travel event was off by a bit due to mathematical error
 
@Elyse ast is here
 
10:11 PM
Heck, it took until Einstein to be able to predict an eclipse perfectly
 
Hm, weird.
 
user47589
really? eclipse can't be predicted with newtonian approximations?
 
I'll disable some extensions, cause it did a bunch of updates and then it died.
 
Nope
Newtonian approx only works in mid level stuff. Extremely large or extremely small and it breaks down.
 
@Amy There was a slight degree of error which was explained by Einstein's space curvature model
 
10:12 PM
The largest part about Einstein's eclipse proof was that no one believed light was bending until then.
 
@TravisJ Light bending in a vacuum
light bends in non-vacuum space all the time
 
user47589
was this proof the one Eddington confirmed?
 
@ShotgunNinja - Right
 
I believe so, and it's the one that was able to confirm the theory of relativity or something like that
 
@Elyse you can do public override Type Type => Symbol.Type; for calculated properties in C#6. A little less noise
 
user1804599
10:14 PM
Cool.
 
user1804599
Thanks.
 
user1804599
Damn, System has a type called Type too. :(
 
well yeah
that's the core of the reflection API
 
user1804599
But I also have a type named Type and it conflicts. :'(
 
just make sure you qualify it properly
so Elyse.Type instead of Type.
or something like that
I don't think Type is a reserved word
 
user1804599
10:18 PM
I did it the other way around. :P
 
user1804599
new System.ArgumentException().
 
that works too
 
@Elyse - Why would you name something Type? :(
That is like naming something Task...
 
user1804599
Because instances of it represent types.
 
types of what?
 
user1804599
10:21 PM
Types of programs.
 
ProgramTypes :(
 
user1804599
In programming languages, a type system is a collection of rules that assign a property called type to various constructs a computer program consists of, such as variables, expressions, functions or modules. The main purpose of a type system is to reduce possibilities for bugs in computer programs by defining interfaces between different parts of a computer program, and then checking that the parts have been connected in a consistent way. This checking can happen statically (at compile time), dynamically (at run time), or as a combination of static and dynamic checking. Type systems have other...
 
user1804599
As in that.
 
this einstein eddington Link is an interesting 3 minute read. Executive summary: the latter delivered the theory as something the masses could understand
 
user1804599
The Wikipedia article is absolute shit, though. It should be deleted or turned into a stub at least.
 
10:22 PM
That is talking about the underlying type system that the language uses though.
Is that what you are recreating?
 
@Codeman is my dinner done yet or....
 
user1804599
@TravisJ I am writing a compiler.
 
ahh
 
user1804599
The compiler must compute the type of every expression in the input program.
 
Neat
 
10:24 PM
@SteveG go cook it yourself, nub
 
The word 'type' occurring in names is a pet hate of mine. Along with 'name'.
 
@Codeman lol :'(
 
@TomW - Or Info or Details
 
yep, those too
 
Car{}
CarInfo{}
1-1
#facepalm
 
10:25 PM
Tells me nothing about what is expected
 
Anyone see the WSJ article on Elon Musk and the hyperloop transportation he wants to setup in California, making a trip from San Francisco to L.A. in under 45 minutes.
 
@Pac2015 - I have read that
 
@TravisJ I have to give it to him, he's quite ambitious
 
@Pac2015 - I like the idea in principle. However, there are several problems with it in general. Like what happens when it goes offline and there are thousands of people stuck in pods with no help.
 
@Pac2015 yup. I especially liked when he first announced Hyperloop he was basically, paraphrasing: "I think this would work, but I am literally too busy to build it what with all the sports cars and rockets, so go fish"
 
10:27 PM
Very true. The physics (good and bad) behind it are very interesting
 
I would rather see a snake-like system for cars used
 
A pod traveling at 730mph alone would be a marvel
Especially considering how California is still boasting high speed rail projects
 
Or perhaps a dragon would be useful as an analogy
 
@TravisJ would maintaining it to the same standard as aviation be acceptable?
 
> // T:System.Xml.XmlException:
// There is a load or parse error in the XML. In this case, a System.IO.FileNotFoundException
// is raised.
 
10:29 PM
That have had nothing but litigious setbacks
 
@TomW - That is what would be required. But if something physically broke in the system, then everyone in transit would stop.
 
so, both exceptions are thrown?
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
If an aircraft suddenly stops working, it plunges to a fiery obliteration and everyone on board dies. Usually. That doesn't stop people using aircraft
or not many people, anyway
 
yes, ty caprica
@TomW - Yeah but aircraft are a lot harder to get to.
@TomW - Maybe if it was staged like 100 feet in the air. But then there are all sorts of other problems.
 
10:30 PM
So that scenario is actually less of a life-critical problem, is what you're saying?
 
@TomW - I am saying that it would be easier to attack the tube than the plane.
 
Ah.
 
Mass transit is a big target
 
As easy as, say, roads?
Or trains?
 
Yes, but when roads are attacked in LA it doesn't potentially harm people in SF
 
10:31 PM
I envision it like a network of vacuum tubes they in essence travel through
 
There would need to be a lot of support structure in place to get people out of the pods and not leave them all alone in the middle of the desert
 
It's hard to picture an object traveling new the speed of sound even on magnetic tracks
as opposed to say a magnetized tube
 
I would rather see small cars the size of smart cars which had train car hookups that could automatically link.
 
modern equivalent of a pump trolley that runs on top of the tubes?
 
The cars would be able to link while driving, but the important part would be that multiple cars could chain.
 
10:33 PM
doesn't need the whole system to be functioning to move, can be sent out to reach people if the vacuum system fails
 
They would probably die in the pod in the desert
It would be like 140-200 in the pod after 30 minutes in the summer.
 
More than likely, especially if it runs through death valley
Death Valley still holds a record for the hottest recorded temperature
 
How much battery juice would you have to build into the pod to keep it air-conditioned?
Assuming you can seal the doors and any exterior surfaces are reflective
 
Power loss would negate that and would probably be accompanied with whatever stopped the system.
 
> battery
 
10:35 PM
It would probably require a 12v battery per hour
 
Perhaps if you put it in a tube and the area between the tube and the pod can conduct electricity, similar to static electricity
 
Ah!
So simple
 
Then as its moving at high speed its generating power in the tube
 
Solar powered :)
 
So the space around the pod is an electrified field it can feed from
But that's assuming you put in a tube system
 
10:37 PM
If the outer shell of the pod was plastic, and the tube was plastic, that would work. But it may also begin to build a lot of friction.
 
How do people do this journey now?
 
Combined with a very large amount of suction from pod to pod, it could be possible to spontaneously combust with that much energy in such a small area.
By car, 5 hours.
 
i rather just teleport.
 
And if their car breaks down?
 
I see where you are going with this. But consider that this is one car that effects up to 7 people versus a system that will effect thousands of people.
 
10:39 PM
There is basically a 50 car pile up happening on meta right now
 
@mikeTheLiar - Yeah, well, dominos happened
 
Dominos?
 
@TravisJ ok, so I take your point, there would have to be a robust evacuation strategy maintained by the system's operator that is capable of reaching all the system's users more or less simultaneously
 
> He died in an act of accidental autodefenestration
 
@TomW - Yeah that is basically my point
 
10:41 PM
ah, classic autodefenestration
 
And the vehicles themselves have to be resilient to the environment for long enough to allow that to happen
 
I wonder if whoever wrote that had a little finger orgasm as they typed it
 
@TomW - Yup, that is a good summation.
 
Why does the pod hyperloop idea seem like a setup to attempting transportation near light speed and possibly time travel
 
make every direction downhill, make every pod a hamster ball, don't require electricity
 
10:44 PM
@NETscape - lol you first
 
@NETscape make every direction down... brilliant!
how have i never thought of it!
 
duh
 
that's all you need for a perpetual motion machine!
 
@Pac2015 - I don't think time travel is possible. You could see the future, but not travel backwards in it.
 
But if you can see the future and move into it in the sense of it being a dimension of time,
then wouldn't the present officially become the past
 
10:46 PM
Not your present.
 
Someone else's present
 
^
 
i love presents
 
In other news, Zuck and Gates announced today that they're funding a big green energy drive
about damn time
Enough of this waa waa expensive. DO IT, by putting up the capital to do it at scale, and it pays for itself
Morocco is apparently building a massive solar farm. It only takes one of their neighbours to say "Can you build us one? We'll pay you money" and the economic case is made there, too
 
Remember in Gulliver's Travels where he talks about a group of people that communicate by pointing at physical items they carry around with them instead of spoken words, and for long conversations it requires servants to carry bundles of knickknacks to ensure an adequate vocabulary.
Was that the first example of an object-oriented language?
 
10:51 PM
pointing and grunting was arguably an object-oriented language.
 
@MikeAsdf - Must have been, since everything was an object.
 
Be back. Off to pick up my new 11ft python
 
@MikeAsdf nice one
I had a burmese python before
I actually had 40 of them at one point
 
i don't tell people everytime I go to the bathroom... i don't think you should have to either
 
10:54 PM
and a collection of 34 adult burmese and reticulated pythons
 
good job python has robust support for collections
 
Too slow, dude. Way too slow.
 
I used to work on a snake farm as a teenager. One season some snakes weren't mating though, but the manager had this idea that the snakes didn't like the metal shelves the cages sat on. So he got some logs of wood from behind the barn and used his carpentry skills to carve them into tables. Then be put the cages on the tables and sure enough the snakes started to breed. Because even adders can multiply with log tables.
 
@MikeAsdf ba dum tiss
 
11:00 PM
@MikeAsdf dude. ouch.
 
@MikeAsdf boooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
oh my god
becky
 
look at her
 
@AdamBarak - What made you think this was the right room for that?
And they left.
Just spam I suppose.
1 message moved to Trash can
 
11:25 PM
Reopening this. It's nominally on-topic, and although I'd advised the room regulars to let it drop, they appear to be all about continuing the argument as long as possible - therefore, I'm using their responses here as input in a proposal I'm drafting for new chat guidelines. As the old saying goes: when life gives you lemons, rub them all over and enjoy the sensation. – Shog9♦
written guidelines are always worse than individual judgement :(
 
@SteveG don't be so negative :)
 
don't be so doubleplusungood
 
@SteveG - Where was that posted?
 
Reopening this. It's nominally on-topic, and although I'd advised the room regulars to let it drop, they appear to be all about continuing the argument as long as possible - therefore, I'm using their responses here as input in a proposal I'm drafting for new chat guidelines. As the old saying goes: when life gives you lemons, rub them all over and enjoy the sensation. — Shog9 ♦ 2 hours ago
thats not what i wanted
oh yeah it is
@bluefeet lol its hard :)
 
@SteveG Let us write this up before you jump to conclusions
 
11:31 PM
@bluefeet - You are making a jump to conclusions mat?
 
@TravisJ exactly
I've got my sewing machine out and everything
 
@AdamBarak - Please do not spam this room any more.
It is typically considered rude to join a room, drop a onebox link to a post (especially a meta post), and then leave.
 
@TravisJ lol
friends, right???
 
@TravisJ what makes you think I would? got your warning before and refrain from doing it
 
no, that was office space
 
11:33 PM
@AdamBarak - Thanks
@SteveG - Yup, office space
 
@TravisJ no probz!
Why are you fishing a stone age old meta post lol
It seems that this chat rooms are always troubled even after months I don't visit it anymore
WOW
 
Fishing? What do you mean?
 
who are you?
 
Purposefully looking for something
Necrosearching
 
will the guide lines say i can mute-kick people who just speak gibberish?
 
11:40 PM
You realize you linked that and then left right?
 
Something like necroposting but searching
 
You literally came in here, posted that link, and then left the room.
 
No I'm referring to this one
Reopening this. It's nominally on-topic, and although I'd advised the room regulars to let it drop, they appear to be all about continuing the argument as long as possible - therefore, I'm using their responses here as input in a proposal I'm drafting for new chat guidelines. As the old saying goes: when life gives you lemons, rub them all over and enjoy the sensation. — Shog9 ♦ 2 hours ago
 
it clearly says 2 hours ago
 
11:40 PM
Not talking about my link my friend
 
Yeah that post has been pretty hot lately. And by lately, I mean today.
 
Ok sorry then. the main post is really really old
It was posted before my 1 year suspension from this site mind you
 
tale as old as time
 
asked 22 hours ago
I think you are looking at the wrong post.
 
that might explain my confusion
lol
 
11:42 PM
@SteveG - Not you.
 
Oh I get it
 
@AdamBarak - Which post are you looking at that is so old?
 
yeah, you meant him
but that explains why i'm so confused
 
ah lol
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
11:45 PM
@SteveG ?
 
he's spamming old posts trying to get things heated
 
Nah
I think that was honest
 
thats why, he edit it, to put in the title
 
@SteveG why? I didn't onebox it. Sorry if I did something wrong
 
maybe i'm just being a dick
i'll shut up
 
11:46 PM
your fine
things have been touchy lately in chat in general
 
his fine what?
 
No it's ok. I wanted to give a bit of context
 
@KendallFrey - I already told Becky all about it
 
lol
 
I'm just annoyed that other chatrooms becoming a problem has led to people being extremely touchy about the much less problematic things that have happened here
 
11:49 PM
i really wish chat had private messages
 
@Codeman - Yeah, the spotlight has been intense.
@Codeman - Lounge seems to be getting the brunt of it at the moment though.
 
1 message moved to Trash
yeah, it did come around as rude. enjoy the kickmute.
 
i told you that guy was a twit
lol
 
Interesting. Previously Anna Lear is now Adam Lear.
 
a - here, I think this is the letter you meant to use
 
11:51 PM
@KendallFrey - Yes.
 
@KendallFrey stop being so xphobic :D
 
@KendallFrey - I was curious about that myself.
 
#microAggressions
 
lol ok. looks like chat turned to shit again
 
@Codeman do you have like steam or skype or some shit
 
11:52 PM
@SteveG I have both of those things but I use gchat.
 
@Codeman I didn't say anything that gave it away, did I?
 
if you guys ever want to message me privately, feel free to ask for that.
@KendallFrey oh, no. I'm just being a smartass
 
yeah
 
I'm touchy because I live in Seattle and people are offended by EVERYTHING
 
how does gchat work
is that gmail chat?
 
11:53 PM
I'm still getting used to this thing, as is everyone else
Proof: Caitlyn Jenner
 
I had someone call me transphobic because I disagreed with them that trans people should get housing subsidies just for being trans
 
@SteveG yeah
@Codeman lol
 
@SteveG yes, just use my email on gmail.com to send me a hangout request
@KendallFrey I get called sexist/racist on a weekly basis, and I'm one of the most tolerant people you could ever meet. I just retain the ability to critically think after viewing posts on tumblr and call people out on utter BS
 
@Codeman woo internet comments
 
@Codeman You're not one of the most tolerant people lol you idiot
 
11:55 PM
sigh
 
whats your email yo
lol
codeman?
 
rubs hands together furiously kekekeke HAND HOVERS OVER KICKMUTE BUTTON KEKEKEKEKEKEKE "this user has already been kicked from this room" disappoint
 
@TravisJ handled
 
@bluefeet thanks
 
@bluefeet - Thanks :)
 
11:56 PM
hey, hey, i mute-kicked, i deserve all the credits ;)
 
@SteveG ooo, was it your first?
 
don't talk to me about credit lol
 
my first ever was obvi haha
 
nah
i kicked
well
im not bringing it up
 
@TravisJ Now I'm leaving
please behave folks! :)
 
11:57 PM
@bluefeet - Have a good night :)
 
we try
 
see you later
 
@Codeman - Dude, those comments though
 
who even looks at YT comments
 
11:58 PM
video was kinda an interesting choice
 
@TravisJ well, I often say "shit on the floor" when my gf asks me for advice in a difficult situation...
 

« first day (1873 days earlier)      last day (3090 days later) »