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5:00 PM
keep all the views, but you could pull out most of the controller code that is common
 
That's exactly what i did
 
Yeah, sounds like your on the right track then
 
controllers are distributed wherever it's relevant and all the views are under the websites project
thank you so much for your insight
i asked many people before but never get the answer
one more question ( I am sorry if i am asking too many questions)
 
no worries
 
my application is code first based but i need to work on a project in my solution that another engineer was responsible for . he used database first approach
is there a best-practice way for me to translate the DB to code first without reconstructing everything from scratch
????
any thoughts on that ?
 
5:04 PM
there is a code first class generator, you can point at the database and it will make all the classes for you
 
in VS?
 
That's amazing
@CharlieBrown you're the man
 
You're a good man @CharlieBrown
 
if you live in the DC area , your beer on me
@SpencerRuport you are invited too
:)
 
5:06 PM
:D thanks. I'm in Cali but if I make my way over there I'll let you know.
 
Used to live north of Baltimore, in Bel Air... now I live in Green Bay, WI
 
i lived in Baltimore city for 5 years , just moved to DC
 
which do you prefer @CharlieBrown?
 
Happy Friday!
 
Happy friday
 
5:08 PM
I hated Bmore for the first few years, then loved it
 
we should exchange emails and all of us work on a gigantic new system
 
Is a GridView control capable of inserting a header row, then say 5 rows of data.. another header.. more records.. sorta like a GroupBY?
 
Wisconsin is more laid back
 
In the [ServiceContract] attribute in a wcf, what is teh difference between specifying Namespace="http://services.stackoverflow.com/" and Namespace="http://services.stackoverflow.com" Does the "/" at the end make any difference>?
 
baltimore is tough , especially west side
watch the wire the you will have an idea
 
5:09 PM
I think it is.. stackoverflow.com/questions/4483120/… or a ListView..
 
@abhi there is no difference, although they would be considered different namespaces
its just supposed to be a "URI" but could be anything. it could be "this is abhi's sweet namespace"
it just helps keep things organized if its an actual web url
yeah. have very little time these days. and i actually work at work unlike you lot ;)
you had fridays off before?
mondays off are the way to go.
 
@drch pff
 
@CharlieBrown what's your email address?
 
@SpencerRuport I've got a URL with a key, I'm trying to submit to Google. Is that approach not correct?
 
LOL
@ton.yeung Happy friday
 
5:18 PM
its almost miller time
or müller time
 
Trying to decide with provider to use Azure or AWS. (For an MVC app)
anyone has any experience with that ?
or those env
?
 
with Azure you get free websites
with AWS you would need a windows VM which costs $60/mo
 
@drch AWS have one year for free as long as you don't exceed usage limits
 
azure has forever for free for 10 websites
 
Azure is not really free (1 month )
are you sure?
 
5:21 PM
everyone gets 10 free websites, yes im sure
but they are the shared one
but even still - a paid one is WAY cheaper than a VM from either azure or aws
 
free for shared sites, no domain
 
make sense now
i did the trial version with them but after the 30 days i canceled
how much does it cost?
the vps offer looks interesting
not a bad pricing
 
Oooo the $30 one looks fun
 
not sure if the VPS is shared or dedicated?
 
Has anyone setup a Sitemap Service for Google?
 
5:30 PM
sitemap service? i mean, isn't just a xml something you have to provide to google?
 
The example they give you to call:
Every time I call, with our API I get a 401
 
@Mehrad Sorry I missed your message last night, I'm around if you still wanted to chat
Good morning, rest of C#
 
@ton.yeung I copy and pasted directly from them...
{
 "error": {
  "errors": [
   {
    "domain": "global",
    "reason": "required",
    "message": "Login Required",
    "locationType": "header",
    "location": "Authorization"
   }
  ],
  "code": 401,
  "message": "Login Required"
 }
}
Is what I receive back.
 
Once you have created a Sitemap in the approved format, you can submit it to Google. To submit a Sitemap for the site http://www.example.com/, send an authenticated POST request to the following URL:

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/feeds/http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eexample%2Ecom%2F/sitemaps/
they say you need to do POST, not PUT
 
@ton.yeung "like a vmware slice" I like this definition
 
5:35 PM
and you have to first authenticate before doing this: developers.google.com/webmaster-tools/docs/2.0/…
 
How do you authenticate?
I can't just send the APIKey for validation?
 
An API key isn't authentication
I don't think you understand what an API key is for
 
beer time!
 
hammertime
 
Can't touch this
 
5:44 PM
@KendallFrey I've never had to physically login before, once you have the API Key it works.
 
lol trying to read those google's doc about their API, it just SUCKS
 
@Greg Usually you would pass an OpenID token or something to confirm you are who you claim to be.
 
@Greg check if this link work for you https://developers.google.com/webmaster-tools/v3/how-tos/authorizing
in your case i think you need to acquire an OAuth access, your current apikey might be just a public API access key
 
This is a basic application, ie: Console. I don't want any information back, I want to send Google a link so they crawl.
That page tells me absolutely nothing.
 
    public class Parent
    {
        internal readonly Child Child;

        public Parent(Child child)
        {
            this.Child = child;
        }
    }

    public class Child
    {
        internal readonly Parent Parent;

        public Child(Parent parent)
        {
            this.Parent = parent;
        }
    }
Is there a clean solution to^
 
5:53 PM
What parts are available through the webmaster api?
Is it possible to access tagmanager, adwords and other stuff like that?
Seems it not much that are available, other than sitemap, crawler info etc
 
All I want is to say here Google, our new files, please crawl.
 
@JohanLarsson - Confused why a Parent must be instantiated with a child
I understand the child instantiated with parent thing though
 
@JohanLarsson Yeah, I would remove that
 
@TravisJ It is for deserialization. I'm probably thinking dumbly about this :)
 
@tweray Thanks for the heads up on AutoMapper :)
 
5:58 PM
then your circular dependency breaks. You could have the child call Parent.Children.Add or something when it is created
 
@Sippy np
 
Deserialization normally utilizes a default constructor anyways
 
@BradleyDotNET I'm obsessing about it being immutable
 
so I'm not sure why thats relevant
 
custom (de)serialization
 
5:59 PM
ah
Immutability is overrated :)
 
:)
I'm (dumb)thinking about passing a Func<> or a lazy or Observable
Maybe open a bottle of wine instead.
 
The latter seems most appropriate for a Friday.
 
@JohanLarsson - I think you oversimplified your example and it is a little hard to grasp the actual problem.
 
@TravisJ yeah sry about that
 
hi guys
 
6:02 PM
@TravisJ Maybe I'll be back with a huge mess later :)
 
can I ask something?
 
@JohanLarsson - Awesome, I like huge messes :D
 
@Harish sure
 
@Harish - That is a tautology.
 
i wanna search a person address with his mobile no. is there any app or site for this?
 
6:03 PM
@Greg google have to first do authentication and make sure that you are the owner of that webmaster account, otherwise anyone can upload sitemap for your website
A APIKey in url is insecure and more of a public access auth, which cannot really protect your critical data, that's why you have to grant access through authentication
 
@JohanLarsson You should scroll up or Google, I found a really nice Microsoft library that makes your collections Immutable and some other stuff.
 
I sure hope not
 
@Harish - No, there is not. If it is a company you can google the number and the company will show up.
 
in F#, 15 secs ago, by Johan Larsson
in C#, 3 mins ago, by BradleyDotNET
Immutability is overrated :)
 
@Harish who are you going to murder?
 
6:04 PM
no one @Steve
 
@JohanLarsson Are you trying to bring down the hammer of Reed on me? ;)
 
thats what all serial killers say before they strike
 
@BradleyDotNET well, unfortunately there is... not free though, and you have to go over some strict paperwork and ensure you only do that for fraud prevention
 
I'm just trying to find a relative adress
 
@BradleyDotNET I could not resist it.
 
6:04 PM
And you couldn't, you know, ask them?
 
^
 
@Harish you can pay a company to tell you, i've had that happen before when i pranked my buddys brother
 
Or, since you have their number, just call them?
 
he was confused as to why he was scheduled to have male strippers show up at his office
 
^
 
6:05 PM
he def. looked up my stuff
 
@Steve cant i do that online?
 
How can I find someone's home address from their email address? I really need to send them a letter.
 
probably, but .... as said before, if you aren't planning on chopping them up.... why not just call them?
 
@drch This is exactly the mischief that my contractors have caused. Now I need to fix it.
 
the no. is not in service now @Steve
 
6:07 PM
Already terminated eh?
 
@Harish detail address is strictly protected and you can only track them for certain legal purposes, but i think there's some whitepage service that can at least tell you some info like locality or state something
 
@scheien lol
i am loling too hard over here @ this whole convo
 
@tweray: That's probably different depending on which country you live in.
 
@scheien true, I'm talking about US btw
 
@tweray how can i find the locality?
 
6:08 PM
In Norway there are phone catalogs which you can search for any number you like, and get name, address, etc for the individual who is registered to it
 
We have those as well. Its called a phone book ;)
 
when i pranked that guy, he was able to look up who the number was registered to
 
I'm in india
 
and it was def. on a cell phone
 
You have to explicit say that you don't want to be listed.
 
6:09 PM
ohhh
that makes sense
 
And they even have an API to go with that phonecatalogservicethingy
:p
In other words: identity theft is not very hard in norway
Order a birth certificate for an individual, and check their mailbox for the next two weeks, and bam, a brand new identity for you
 
what was your addy again?
 
Greeting earthlings
 
hey darek!
i haven't seen you around lately
 
Yes, I was heads down working
Sorry about that
What's cooking these days?
 
6:13 PM
ohhhh same ol' same ol
trying to keep convo's semi professional and failing :p
 
:P
Ran into a fun issue
 
@Harish I will suggest to just google India whitepages , and see if there's anything fit you
 
what issue is that?
 
@tweray ok
 
if my VS project is placed on a mapped drive, NuGet refuses to run any ps1 files
 
6:15 PM
even if you run VS as admin?
 
Have not tried that
I think I will set UAC off and disable PS policies
I am tired fo being prompted all the freaking time
 
i'd do vs as admin first and see if it works
i've ran into other situations where that resolves it (specifically thinking about tfs, but still)
 
And if you run sites through IIS you would need administrative privileges
 
@Darek never tried myself, but worth a shot stackoverflow.com/questions/9851580/…
 
to add insult to injury, I could not even get into the packages folder on mapped drive
Running as admin did not resolve
Client\packages\PostSharp.2.1.7.35\tools\install.ps1 is not digitally signed. The script will not execute on the system. For more information, see about_Execution_Policies
 
6:18 PM
does anybody in here have a beard, and do you like tugging on it
 
Have you mapped the drive to a drive letter? e.g. Z:\, or running as \\hostname\share?
 
@Steve - Sometimes I don't shave for a while and it grows a little and I will tug on it a little at my chin, mostly with the subliminal thought of "why is this still here"
 
well, it can certainly not be called a beard, but some facial hair yes.
isn't it mandatory to pull and stroke the beard as often as possible?
it's like "ye, it looks like I'm thinking, but I'm really in my nothing box."
 
@scheien - Your nothing box? Never heard that phrase before.
 
ah
2 sec
Difference between men and womens brains
 
6:26 PM
how do you post a video here btw? you just copy/paste a youtube link and it will just magically work?
 
yep
 
lol never knew that
 
only works with youtube
 
some sites get those thumbnails. Youtube and Wikipedia atleast
 
@BradleyDotNET - that meta user downvoted me for vtc his question
 
6:31 PM
@TravisJ i feel like i tug on it like i'm a monkey, but i wasn't sure if people with beards did that normally or not
lol anyway
not strange
 
Are you still talking about beards?
 
think everyone does that @Steve, nothing to worry about
 
Hi team , i have a sql question, i think it's a simple one just cannot figure it out
 
what sql question?
 
i need to insert into the customer table (ID_Code) from the aspnetusers table (username)
i wan to insert the values using the FK UserID as a condition
 
6:35 PM
@TravisJ Which one?
 
@BradleyDotNET - The ranting one
 
He doesn't have enough rep to downvote
so that seems unlikely
 
Ah good point. He doesn't actually have any downvotes either. Just coincidence
 
@scheien what do you think?
 
@Osadellah: something like INSERT INTO Customer c SET c.id_code = a.Username INNER JOIN aspnetusers a on c.userid = a.id where ...
if you want to insert username into id_code field
 
6:38 PM
@TravisJ I think he's unsavable. Bill pointed out that he was suggesting IndexOf/Contains to parse XML, and he's like "Thats a totally valid approach! How dare you suggest that I'm wrong!"
 
my sql is far from perfect, so it may be one or more mistakes there :p
 
@BradleyDotNET - Yeah I saw all that. Looked pretty bad.
 
@Osadellah: If you have users in aspnetusers table that you want to add to customers table, you should look into the MERGE syntax, it's pretty pretty neat.
 
Yes, the MERGE syntax is the way to go.
 
@scheien here is the right statement :
UPDATE Customer
SET Customer.ID_Code = AspNetUsers.UserName
FROM AspNetUsers INNER JOIN Customer ON UserId = Id
Thank you all
 
6:49 PM
Yes, of course
update
I've had a couple of beers
:)
 
:)
happy friday
 
morning guys
 
Anyone know what Google means by:

  // A known public activity.
        private static String ACTIVITY_ID = "z12gtjhq3qn2xxl2o224exwiqruvtda0i";
 
Indeeed
 
:)
 
6:50 PM
What is a known public activity?
 
hey team, anyone here worked on a remote control system before (Something like Logmein, VNC, teamviewer) before?
 
I'm using one right now. Never written one though
 
@Greg In what context?
 
i know they use their own technology , but i am curious how to start a project like that
where to start
 
@Osadellah learn about system calls
 
6:54 PM
@BradleyDotNET That's all the context
 
@Pheonixblade9 more info?
 
@Osadellah I'd learn about system calls to graphics, video compression, how to write a driver (you will have to write pseudo-drivers)
 
it's a broad subject
 
@Greg I believe Android has the concept of "activity"
 
@Osadellah I don't really know, honestly. That's just where I'd start
 
6:55 PM
i worked on a driver project before
ok
 
But I don't know a lot about it
maybe its referring to that
 
@Greg you realize I'm an Android developer, right?
as in... I've gotten paid money to do it multiple times
 
I didn't realize, I'm trying to use this example to hopefully login via OAuth and just submit my damn Sitemap.
 
oh, well that's not Android. lol
 
@Pheonixblade9 Yeah, you see the example?
 
6:57 PM
Clarification, I am totally guessing as to what that phrase means
 
nah...I don't really have time to look over anything complex
I'm trying to put together a list of stories and mockups for this project. trying to have it done today, have to have it done by monday
 
@Pheonixblade9 Its just a comment over a string
// A known public activity.
        private static String ACTIVITY_ID = "z12gtjhq3qn2xxl2o224exwiqruvtda0i";
Main is below that
 
I'm not sure what that is.
It's Java
 
@Pheonixblade9 lol ... how do you figure that?
 

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