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11:00 PM
and better insurance... and more upward mobility... and tuition reimbursement/conference fees paid for
right now someone would have to leave for me to get promoted, which is frustrating
I mean, I've basically been leading the project our team has been working on for 3 months... that bespeaks that maybe I deserve one
 
posted on November 24, 2014 by Immo Landwerth [MSFT]

This is a cross post from the .NET Foundation blog and written by Gianugo Rabellino. --Immo The increased openness of .NET has sparked widespread interest in the .NET Foundation. As a result, its Board of Directors has decided to extend the timeframe for community feedback on the .NET Foundation Advisory Council to December, 5, 2014. The Advisory Council will bring unique knowledge

 
11:16 PM
does it get much traffic now?
 
@TravisJ what do you think?
 
@JohanLarsson - yes, but the counter required a server backing it and when I stopped paying for the hosting the counter died. It gets roughly 5 hits per day
@Pheonixblade9 - About what you said or something else
 
@TravisJ re: me possibly deserving a promotion. Or do you think I would have to repeatedly do things like that to "deserve" one?
 
@Pheonixblade9 - Well, in house promotion doesn't usually come that quickly. Once every 6 months is a very fast pace. I wouldn't expect more than once per year in house. Once per 2 years isn't unheard of.
 
@TravisJ I've been here since May 2012
 
11:19 PM
@Pheonixblade9 - How many promotions have you been given?
 
That's bullshit.
 
thing is, we only really have 3 grades. Engineer, Senior Engineer, Lead Engineer
there's no "Engineer II"
 
Have you been given raises?
 
just COLA
and we had a year where we didn't have any raises
 
11:20 PM
1.7% or something
 
more like 3%, but 3% is COLA for Seattle
 
Yeah that isn't a raise
 
well, no. I lied. I had one good one
I started at 75k and I'm at just under 90k now
 
Ah
Hm
 
but I was just dumb and didn't know market rates and asked for 60k. so they offered me 75k and I was happy to take it.
 
11:21 PM
That is at least a friendly increase. 7% raise per year average
 
I'm sure they just gave me that big of a raise to make me not gain wandering eye syndrome
I did architect and build a project last year that pretty much all of our new development is built on top of, so that's something
and it's done quite well. No major problems
apart from my team lead trying to add to it and thinking that something would only take 1 day... and he just finished it, a month later :P
he didn't believe me when I told him it was hard lol
 
To be honest it seems rather reasonable.
 
yeah, I'm not underpaid. I could be making more, but my salary is fine honestly
the reasons I'm looking around are mostly lack of upward mobility here, lack of company growth, and that I'm not learning much
 
If you feel like your peers are getting far more than you, or people are getting advanced further, or the company is rapidly growing and you feel you are partially responsible for that - then perhaps open a toned down dialogue with them about your role at the company and that you think you are being undervalued.
 
I don't think they're being unfair. I just think I'm in a company that isn't growing and there isn't anything for me to grow into.
every project is basically just "figure out how to transform this XML into this other XML" at its core
 
11:25 PM
In my opinion that isn't something they can do anything about that they aren't already trying.
 
yup
and that's too bad, but I can't sacrifice my early career years, the most important, because the company's leadership doesn't know how to grow the company
 
Changing jobs can be a little scary.
 
yeah. :/
my current boss is the best boss I've ever had in my life
 
@TravisJ are you still in the same place?
 
Often it is lucrative though, and several financial papers including forbes suggest doing it as a means to progress your career.
 
11:27 PM
my VP, I mean. My lead is smart but can be frustrating sometimes. He's fine though
 
@JohanLarsson - yes lol, this project has gotten rather large
 
yeah, and I don't think changing jobs after almost 3 years will be seen as "hopping"
 
still working alone?
 
@JohanLarsson - Yes
@JohanLarsson - Preparing it for some massive scaling at the moment.
 
is it making money?
 
11:28 PM
idk. I'm not itching to move, but I'll take a good opportunity if I see it.
 
The pay version isn't available.
It is going to be expensive to use, so I don't want to drive people away by releasing early.
 
tricky stuff
 
Yup
It is pretty close to release though, and then hopefully it will have all been worth it
 
:) good luck
 
@JohanLarsson - I am trying to make sure something like 50 employees from one tenant can be concurrently modifying data without seeing more than a 15 second worst case scenario delay.
mysql just wasn't cutting it anymore
To be honest it is a little risky to have done this.
If the project doesn't pan out, it will be hard to get a position somewhere that is equivalent to my experience.
 
11:35 PM
why?
 
If it does work out, then I should be in a pretty good place.
@JohanLarsson - Because it wont look good that I spent so long on something that didn't do well?
 
ok but maybe it will not look that bad either.
 
Yeah it wouldn't be terrible, but it wouldn't be progress.
 
perhaps depending on if you go for a dev job or something else
hope it goes well for you
 
When I was doing a lot of stocks, I always avoided the ones that involved "hoping" :P
 
11:39 PM
@TravisJ meh, better to try something ambitious and fail than to do boring shit IMO
 
haha well it sure hasn't been slow
phew, okay MSSQL's structure is all setup now
That was mundane
 
mssql is pretty expensive right?
 
I just paid $140 for 1gb of storage for 1 year
In the middle of the beta I am going to migrate to a vps and probably have to purchase like $5k of licenses from MS to expand to a 50 gb instance
Scaling can be expensive
 
learning_SQL.jpg i.imgur.com/w3fdJAA.jpg
 
lol
 
11:43 PM
cos caps?
 
yea
 
is non-caps syntax error?
 
sql is my least favorite language of the ones I use
 
not a syntax error, but very non-standard style
 
not sure why there is so much caps.. just like old school html
 
11:44 PM
At least you aren't running your own SQL server
Thats like 10K per core
 
<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>THIS IS A WEBPAGE</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>HELLO WORD</BODY></HTML>
 
ok, convention is pretty important
 
@BradleyDotNET - I will run my own server when I go to a vps. How much space per core?
 
I wish there was a decent tool for auto-capitalizing and adding [dbo].[BracketsFrickingEverywhere]
 
IIRC most sql doesn't require the caps
I don't believe the licensing is based on space
 
11:45 PM
@MikeAsdf - lol
@BradleyDotNET - Really? I know that with express you get up to 10gb for free and after that it gets expensive
 
haha
 
Standard is Per core, or server + CAL (whatever that is)
 
11:49 PM
I think cal is user (cpu or person)
 
@Pheonixblade9 does it do squarebrackets?
 
If you are using Azure right now, the structure is very different for standard SQL server
 
@BradleyDotNET - Yeah I think all I will need is the 64gb
524pb is redonkulous
 
11:51 PM
Azure SQL marketing uses some weird-ass DTU metric
 
I didn't see any pricing on any of that material you linked, I even skimmed through the licensing and buying pdfs
 
@TravisJ you have to talk to a salesy person to get pricing usually
 
The actual prices are just my recollection
You'll need to contact them to get current prices
 
I know we're making efforts to get off of Enterprise edition
 
enterprise sounds so ew
sounds expensive and unusable
 
11:55 PM
some example prices maybe msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/…
"NOTE: Pricing shown is for demonstrative purposes only."
"We might see you as a sucker and try to charge more"
 
lol @ However with 300 users, using SQL Server Enterprise Edition is less expensive.
In that case, it is only $464,091.96
I am so glad I don't have to use anything on that level.
Enterprise and sharepoint seem very expensive
 
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