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2:04 PM
@rlemon That's quite the pontification. Also, I vant to suck your vrain!
 
@DavidDV, ok but give me any suggestions.
@KyleTrauberman hi
 
Don't use something when you don't know how it works
 
It's too early to be awake
 
I tell you the solution to this problem every morning @KyleTrauberman.
 
2:10 PM
man, spend two minutes in the js room and this guy got me all in a rage.
 
caffeine?
 
"HTML5 should take a page from FLEX and WPF"
are you shitting me?
 
FLEX?!?!?! wasn't flash dead like 2 years ago?
i may have ended it with calling him an assclown
:/
 
lol Flex and WPF
 
2:12 PM
@KyleTrauberman You could get some coffee, sure, but that's treating the symtpom.
 
SEE!! even the effing windows developers think he is a moron
man I need more coffee and a smoke
 
@rlemon whos quote is that?
 
Babies are to cannibals as veal is to regular omnivors.
 
@Billdr What's the cure Dr. Billdr?
 
in JavaScript, 10 mins ago, by Greg
HTML5 could learn alot from WPF and FLEX
 
2:13 PM
Either that, or time travel.
 
lol Greg is a noob
 
in JavaScript, 41 secs ago, by Greg
Rlemon, go troll someone else
lol
 
@KyleTrauberman Okay, I can confirm something is not right with this javascript. Ammar posted a picture titled "Programmer" - if you refresh until it comes up you'll see an example of the bug.
 
I'll try to reproduce it later
if you see it again
check to see if the img tag has a css class of "user-image"
 
@KyleTrauberman but am I wrong?!?!?! this guy is a total idiot
He doesn't know anything but ms. and now is saying everyone else has it backwards.
I can only imagine what he would say given some C
 
2:21 PM
no, Greg is an id10t
 
Hello to all members...............................................................
 
"well... this C is stupid... it should be more like C#... yea... and have a bunch of libraries on top of it"
 
"maybe we can make it like LINQ..... I know this doesn't make sense but it's a buzzword right?"
well that got my morning off to a rage.
not a real rage. a nerd rage.
only cure is caffeine and nicotine
 
Am i an idiot now?
Rlemon spreading the hate in here i see.
It appears if you say Microsoft in a room rlemon is in he has to troll you.
 
2:23 PM
lol, see now you are just wrong
in JavaScript, 20 mins ago, by Greg
HTML5 could learn alot from WPF and FLEX
this is wrong
 
Yes they could
 
stupid and wrong
 
no
you are so wrong
 
Drama ?
 
SL and FLEX are dead btw
good riddance :p
 
2:24 PM
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A: EF: many-to-many field always null

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so you think i'm anti-ms because I pointed out how wrong that statement is?
 
WPF has excellent containers
 
@greg how could html 5 learn from wpf and flex?
 
@rlemon you just gave me a song to play! youtube.com/watch?v=katzz57tmm4&feature=watch_response
 
you sir, need to get off your high horse and return to the real world where FLEX is dead and HTML5 trumps WPF
 
2:25 PM
Hi, all can any one tell me why my code first context not changing when my database table has been updated?
The table is updating but the updated data not affecting to context.
i'm working with code first without existing database in mvc.
 
They could implement similar containers to WPF, that require alot less configuration to get right
 
@rlemon blasphemy!! nothing trumps WPF!
 
@rlemon heyyy ! WPF is a godo frien of mine :'(
 
honestly, its like comparing apples and transmissions.
 
:P
WPF is not bad. HTML5 trumps it
 
2:25 PM
anybody know my question?
 
all i'm saying
 
you will be burnt for such blasphemy !
 
Rlemon do you remember betamax vs VHS?
 
omg
seriously
are you for real :p
 
@Greg you sir are comparing VHS and singing greeting cards.
now stop before you make yourself look stupider (spell check didn't correct it : must be a word!)
 
2:27 PM
@tiru repeating will not help. if somebody could answer, you'd have it by now.
 
drama over ? :'(
 
ok, but need solution .
 
@tiru find it on the interwebs :)
 
i cant figure it out.
 
@Sisyphe We're like the TNT channel, we know drama.
 
2:29 PM
:D
 
@Maverik, thank you have a nice day!
 
how to post back a model with a many-2-many field?
 
@tiru you too :)
 
All rlemon has are insults. tsk tsk tsk.
 
Greg
 
2:32 PM
David shush. Go hate somewhere else.
 
When in Rome do as the romans do
 
This is a C# room.
FOSS trolls will troll anywhere.
 
if you are going to do HTML5 then don't start about how C# is better without knowing anything
 
David i've been doing both for years.
 
doesn't look like it
 
2:33 PM
And i wasn't comparing C# and HTML5
What it comes down to is once really vocal troll starting screaming when i mentioned Microsoft.
 
>>it'd be great if JS had half the libraries built in default to C#
yeah you wasn't comparing
 
JS is NOT HTML5
 
lol
 
I think when most people refer to HTML5, they include JS and css
 
David, really. Try reading before commenting.
 
2:35 PM
uppercase I guess you use a lot of VS 2012 :p
 
HTML5 in itsefl is not much actually
 
Right sis, i usually group HTML5 with CSS, but more loosely with js
 
TIL how to serialize a list in xml properly.
Since I learned a thing, I can go back to bed right?
 
alot of html5 is created server side.
Then you have js / node.js and other frameworks in comparison for serverside code
So typically you use something like .NET in tandem with a client framework like JS/html5 or WPF
 
???
HTML5 created server side?
there are a lot of client side libraries
 
2:39 PM
yes, JSP, ERB, ASPX
 
Backbone.js / knockout.js
 
David, be respectful, seriously.
 
lol
 
Why are you acting surprised that HTML5 is rendered server side?
 
ok i'm trying to keep up with this, but where's the disrespectful part @Greg?
All I see is an argument going
 
2:42 PM
omg

seriously
are you for real :p
David:
David DV
if you are going to do HTML5 then don't start about how C# is better without knowing anything
 
lol
 
@DavidDV You're such a naughty boy
 
@Greg HTML5 is not rendered server side...
 
how old are you? 12?
 
well yes, an assumption on his part.. but disrespectful? I'm not sure
 
2:43 PM
@KendallFrey It is often rendered serverside
 
rendered serverside ???
 
Kendall, haven't you ever used a JSP?
 
I think he means generated?
 
generated maybe
 
Yeah, but not rendered.
 
2:43 PM
so when discussing HTML5, we only discuss "your" way of doing HTML5
 
I've been using rails lately. In rails the terminology is rendered.
render partial => "form'
 
C# room :)
 
David you can't tell the difference between a C# and HTML5 argument.
 
HTML is rendered by the browser using KHTML is most modern browsers
PERIOD
no exceptions
 
You obviously aren't even reading. Your just moving your fingers to type exclamations.
 
2:45 PM
LEARN HOW THE WEB WORKS!
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Like I'm not making this shit up
 
rlemon, when your server turn a template into a page, its often called RENDERING
 
no it is called outputting the code
RENDERING is different
 
no its called, you don't know what your talking about
 
lol ok
 
@Greg That is incorrect use of the term rendering, and at the very least, misleading.
 
lol
 
so argue now with two rooms of professionals who do this for a living
 
@Greg Well this statement is really misleading
 
I see "AJAX" posted all over the web when you are supposed to be using XHR but that doesn't mean AJAX is a real interface or thing
 
Perhaps your so pigeon holed you haven't seen the term in other fields.
 
2:46 PM
!!/define rendering
 
it's a technique, with buzzword association
@KendallFrey rendering: A drawing in perspective of a proposed structure. (source)
 
@Greg Perhaps you haven't seen the real definition and accept its incorrect usage.
 
LOL
arrogance due to ignorance leads to Greg.
 
A web browser engine, (sometimes called layout engine or rendering engine), is a software component that takes marked up content (such as HTML, XML, image files, etc.) and formatting information (such as CSS, XSL, etc.) and displays the formatted content on the screen. It "paints" on the content area of a window, which is displayed on a monitor or a printer. A web browser engine is typically embedded in web browsers, e-mail clients, on-line help systems or other applications that require the displaying (and editing) of web content. Engines may wait for all data to be received before rend...
 
2:48 PM
@robjb Perhaps you choose to ignore words have multiple definitions.
 
In the context of HTML, rendering has a single definition.
 
lol
 
Using it to mean "generating" is simply wrong.
 
That is all, I'm going back to work.
 
2:49 PM
Better go tell that to microsoft.
Because the got it 'wrong' in there MSDN
 
> Partial-page rendering relies on server controls in ASP.NET and on client functions in the Microsoft Ajax Library. You do not have to use the Microsoft Ajax Library to enable partial-page rendering, because this functionality is provided automatically when you use the ASP.NET AJAX server controls. However, you can use the APIs exposed in the client library for additional AJAX functionality.
NO MY GOD
they are sending partial portions of HTML to the browser via XHR then rendering them ON THE BROWSER
 
Anyway im out
 
you just need to learn how to read
 
Rlemon, good job ignoring the rails post.
 
actually i ignored rails too
 
2:50 PM
good job being a dork and not listening to two rooms of professional coders because you found a few incorrect usages for the term "render"
 
and i'm sure a lot of others did that too. When you argue that you're right and everybody else is wrong.. thats usually the result especially when the room isn't even relevant to your link.
 
also when you are clearly wrong it doesn't help.
just a point there.
 
Your bad. Read a book other than that wasn't on your Richard Stallman's, your god, approved reading list.
 
Greg can you please drop this now?
(and rlemon - give me a topic changing gif!)
 
rlemon obviously wants to fight.
 
2:52 PM
no I want you to understand you are wrong, and throw out stupid analogies that don't make sense. I am unaware of this Richard Stallman character and have never read his books.
 
>.>
guess I should go back to work too then
 
obviously I know who he is / sarcasm /
 
rlemon, wrong about what? you haven't made a cohesive statement since we started. All you do is insult.
Your a FOSS troll
 
lol ok bud
FLEX > HTML5 ??? and i'm the one who doesn't make cohesive statements
3 mins ago, by Greg
Your bad. Read a book other than that wasn't on your Richard Stallman's, your god, approved reading list.
 
what is FOSS btw?
 
2:55 PM
passive insults are also insults
 
@DavidDV he is against free and open source software
 
rlemon, i said html5 can learn from flex and wpf
No I'm not rlemon, you are strawmaning
 
Flex, Silverlight and WPF are Dead
 
2:56 PM
So much Image not found
 
how can HTML5 learn from them
 
Please tell me how HTML5 can learn from FLEX or WPF and i'll shut up
 
@DavidDV WPF is not dead. And yes, WinForms is dying.
 
2:56 PM
They could have used containers more similar to the ones found in WPF
 
how
example? or it didn't happen
 
WinForms, has quite a bit of life left in legacy support.
 
WPF and FLEX is being done by a single community
unlike HTML5
 
@Greg It is obsolete though.
 
so its much easier to do that
 
2:57 PM
I agree its obsolete.
 
But fortran 77 is obsolete and we haven't gotten rid of that in the past 20 years.
 
#undef BILLDR
 
From my point of view, WPF is far from dead. I just don't think it adresses the same problems as HTML5
 
@KendallFrey I don't think that there is a lot of investment anymore in WPF
 
2:58 PM
HTML5 is a set of progressing standards and APIs (the buzzword. not the actual term. In actuality HTML5 is just a revision on the tags, the corresponding APIs have nothing to do with the spec, albeit closely related and often defined as the same)
 
@DavidDV You, sir, are misinformed.
 
clearly
 
@KendallFrey show me the roadmap then
what is there for .net 5 ?
 
I'm still waiting for an example on how HTML5 can learn from WPF or FLEX?
 
I think that MS will be putting more resources into XAML
 
2:59 PM
@DavidDV How am I supposed to know?
 
and less in WPF
 
rlemon, i already told you that long ago, you don't listen.
 
@DavidDV XAML is WPF
And Metro
 
no you said "containers"
 
No its not its XAML :)
 
2:59 PM
wtf does that mean?
 
They could have implmented containers similar to those in WPF
 

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