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12:03 PM
cbg, all
 
@WayneWerner: After our recent conversation about ed / sed, I decided to brush up my sed skills for a U&L answer :)
Greetings, Foul Ole Ron @holdenweb :D
 
@holdenweb Cbg, Time for you to take stock of the place ;)
Whether we were nice or not
 
@BhargavRao ?
 
Ah, You've forgotten. Just a sec
Jun 2 at 16:57, by holdenweb
Ah well, off work until Wednesday now, so ima rhubarb out. Be good while I'm away
:)
 
That was a general injunction, not a promise to check on my return. I just assumed you would all obey my diktat
 
12:09 PM
We're always good. But that doesn't imply that we're always nice. ;)
 
I did obey ;)
 
Hey, I wasn't the one bandying the "n" word about here
 
Bhargav Rao is the Hrundi V. Bakshi of SO Python. :D
Only kidding!
 
Might have been amusing if I'd known who Hrundi V. Bakshi is/was
 
The Party is a 1968 American comedy film directed by Blake Edwards, starring Peter Sellers and Claudine Longet. The film has a very loose structure, and essentially serves as a series of setpieces for Sellers's improvisational comedy talents. The comedy is based on a fish-out-of-water premise, in which a bungling Indian actor accidentally gets invited to a lavish Hollywood dinner party and "makes terrible mistakes based upon ignorance of Western ways." The Party is considered a classic comedic cult film. Edwards biographers Peter Lehman and William Luhr said, "The Party may very well be one of...
 
12:12 PM
Hah, I was reading that too ;)
 
@PM2Ring very nice
 
@WayneWerner Thanks!
 
Cbg @Antti
 
12:21 PM
I've discovered the source of the annoying metal clanging sound in the office -- they're shipping obscene amounts of oxygen tanks. For what purpose, I know not
 
@PM2Ring i love peter sellers
@corvid what is the number of oxygen tanks that becomes obscene?
Enough to make annoying metal clanging sounds? ;)
maybe they're trying to build a rocket :D
 
More than one, because they make the most irritating, long-lasting noise
 
@WayneWerner He was a genius. Not necessarily a great human being, but certainly a masterful actor. And The Party is one of his masterpieces.
 
Hello
Guys how would you build a regexc to match "04 may 2016" in the string "the date is : 04 May 2016" ?
 
@DeltaWeb Why bother using a regex? Is the month always just 3 letters, or is it using the full month name?
 
12:26 PM
@corvid could be worse youtube.com/watch?v=z_Jk_Wlmvbc
@DeltaWeb i wouldnt
 
@PM2Ring Previously I've splitted the string with str.split(':') . But the result is a string with a variable number of space in the beginning .
somtimes it's " 04 May 2016" (one space)
Sometimes it's " 04 may 2016" (double space at the beginning)
 
Fantastic error. Can't import a scipy module in shell, but can in ipython notebook.
 
So I want to use regex to get the exact string "04 May 2016" without any leading space .
 
@DeltaWeb So just use .strip() or .lstrip() to clean up the unwanted spaces.
 
Oh Okay, but what if I don't know how many spaces are their in the beginning ?
 
12:29 PM
Read what strip does.
 
Okay
 
@DeltaWeb You don't need to know. Strip can figure that out. Please read the str docs.
 
Oh cool thank's guys !
 
Regex are great when you need them, but please don't underestimate the power of the built-in str methods.
 
+100000000
Regexes are only rarely the tool you should reach for in string processing in Python
basically they should be used when it feels too awkward to do it with string processing, and even then I'd probably ask a question on SO... "here's what I'm doing, this works with regex, heres my input and output. Is there a way I can do this with other string processing tools?"
they're good for pattern validation, if you don't have anything else to use
 
12:35 PM
Sometimes, when you can do the job with str methods or with regex, the regex can be faster, but often it's the other way around.
 
for instance, "04 May 2016" you can just try to parse with datetime.strptime()
 
Thank's guys !
 
No worries!
 
As an aside, @DeltaWeb, I'd recommend spending some time with strings. Just run dir('hello') and look at the methods
 
Okay I'll do that @wayne
 
12:37 PM
if there's something you haven't used and aren't familiar with, run help('hello'.strip) for example
read the docs and play around with it in the REPL
 
Okay !
 
brief-rbrb. Got some work.
 
see what happens when you have something like ' hello fooo\t\n\t \n'.strip()
 
Why is python preferred over other languages in AI ?
 
(and I'll recommend playing around with anything that you don't know about that same way. It's a powerful way to learn)
 
12:39 PM
Dunno, it's just what Roko wants us to use. </obscure_in_joke>
 
Guesses - it's got a rich ecosystem of libraries. It's easy to experiment with (see above).
It's easy to interface with C if you need speed
I suspect AI people have a good sense of humor, and python is named after Monty Python
python is good with IO bound multithreading, but works really well with distributed systems. Did I mention that it's easy to experiment with?
Syntax is pretty English-like (though watch out for is vs ==)
 
Also will PSF ever drop the support for python 2.7 in the next few years ?
 
(unless you have a library that only supports Python 2.7, which should be few and far between by now, you really should be on Python3, or you have a massive Python2 codebase already. Where massive means 100k*N lines of code, for values of N > 1)
If you've got less than that, you should start porting things to Python3 :P
(or find people who are willing to work on Python2 for dollars. If you have dollars to spend on that sort of thing)
 
I'm in for the python 2.7 retire party :3
 
I look forward to finally taking Python 2.x out back and Lennie'ing it.
 
12:58 PM
Morning cabbage.
 
morning cabbage, Morgan
 
Python 2 will never die. We are all trapped in the belly of this horrible machine.
 
Well, there are people still stuck on 1.4, so....
and at least it's not Java ;)
 
Why can't apple get on sending Webm files in iMessage?
 
webm files, I don't think I've heard of that. Is that like an MMS?
 
1:09 PM
It's just gifv but with a fancy name
 
I don't like webms because they don't loop.
 
Why can't all prob distros be continuous? Bloody pain in the arse.
 
I need to generate N integers between x0 and x1. If N is greater than x1-x0 then by definition I will have some duplicates in there. Would you say that it'd be better to remove the dupes or leave them in?
It'd mean that if you created an object with N=100 you might only actually get one back with N=56
 
1:23 PM
Oh, a prob distro is not a linux OS.
 
I'm too lazy to type out probability distribution.
Apart from when explaining why I'm too lazy to type out probability distribution.
 
Thought you were working on an OS for like NASA or something.
I got excited. :/
 
That'd be a probe distro.
 
I mean, I know how lazy you are. The e might've just been too much work for you.
 
Thts tru Mor
Unomesowel
 
1:27 PM
<3
 
I decided to reduce the N, in case anyone was waiting to find out.
 
Mmmm, I love a nice N reduction. It pairs very well with a cream of linear regression.
 
Oof. Terrible decision. You're gonna regret that.
 
The fact that you think A makes me more confident in choosing A'.
I've put a note in the docs - users read docs, right?
 
Sure, why not?
 
1:42 PM
Reading docs? That's when I post a question on SO before doing any research, right?
 
I wonder if someone could pay me to just be documentation
 
I caved and added scipy as a dependency. I didn't feel like trying to write code to do stuff like the Beta function by myself - integrals are tricky.
 
A dependen-sci?
 
snrk
 
Don't encourage him.
 
1:44 PM
If I close my eyes, he can't see me!
 
Which reminds me, I should get back to work on my shuffled index function. For a given seed, x = f(i, n, seed) returns a unique 0 <= x < n. It's for when you want a random permutation of range(n) where n is too large for random.shuffle to be convenient. My current version produces nice random-looking permutations, but I figure I might as well make it crypto grade so it can be used for format preserving encryption.
 
This build tool takes an eternity and is obviously super inefficient because it tries to build modules that are never imported anywhere :|
 
I'm working on Gwydion, adding some more probability distributions.
 
@Ffisegydd IIRC, scipy uses mpmath for stuff like that. So if you don't need all the other scipy stuff you could just make mpmath the dependency.
 
@PM2 you hero, I didn't know that was a thing, I might do that.
 
1:54 PM
@Ffisegydd mpmath is awesome. Just ask DSM, he's a fan too. :)
 
I've already got numpy and matplotlib as dependencies but scipy is just so heavy.
Then again, if someone is generating pseudo-random scientific data, chances are they already have scipy.
 
yup ^
and if they don't want scipy, screw them
unless they're not your type
 
@Ffisegydd True. And if they have scipy they'll have mpmath as part of scipy. OTOH, some people (like me) have mpmath and not scipy. But I guess mpmath is quicker to install.
 
The advantage of scipy is doing scipy.stats.betaprime.pdf rather than writing out this
Not sure if the dependency is worth it. Will think on it.
 
mpmath can handle ridiculously large numbers, assuming you have the RAM. And even if you don't do calculations to thousands of digits of precision it's still pretty impressive, eg (100!)! ~= 4.7375538691336023358807235669583421650013236927718479e+147022115343764318662468‌​284891817225777455787834195304790067504052462835519567081134717338390680590917235‌​48193501474525153911290654022632427963600982510722975342 :)
 
2:00 PM
@Ffisegydd well that's not too painful, is it?
once you have beta
 
It's more painful than typing out scipy.stats.betaprime.pdf :P
35 mins ago, by Morgan Thrapp
I mean, I know how lazy you are. The e might've just been too much work for you.
 
oh right:P
 
@Ffisegydd mpmath has betainc "With the keyword argument regularized=True, betainc() computes the regularized incomplete beta function"
 
want me to write a lightweight package that defines betaprime? then you can use that as a dependency
 
Nah I'm good, I'll just give up instead. It's easier.
I think my spirit animal might be Kevin.
 
2:04 PM
Believe in yourself. Or don't, I'm a spirit animal not a cop.
5
 
^ unless you're a yeti
 
@idjaw remember the other day when we were discussing recruiters contacting you, and what to do? Literally happened to me today.
I forwarded it to our recruiters (because they're a direct competitor) but also emailed them back asking what they've got and for a number. He wouldn't quote a number directly though, instead asking for a 5 minute chat to see where we could meet.
 
The only recruiter email I've gotten was offering a Java position. I've never written a line of Java in my life.
 
2:11 PM
I get them relatively often, but this was more interesting because they're a direct competitor and I happen to know that they're really trying to expand their data portfolio.
 
so are you like "guys, who's willing to pay more for this hunk of Fizzy?"?
 
Well it's more "So, tell me how much you'd pay me so I can turn round to FC at my next pay review and use it."
 
:D that makes sense
 
Unfortunately, they're too tricksy to just put a number out there.
Even over the phone, I'd be very shocked if they'd open with a number.
They'd wait for you to say yours.
 
sure, no need to pay too much in case you're willing to be a slave
 
2:19 PM
Exactly.
I once heard the advice that "The first person to open their mouth and quote a number is usually the one that loses."
 
@Ffisegydd I can vouch for that in my last pay negotiation.
Got the boss to suggest a number first, which ended up being higher than what I assumed he would offer, so I asked for more than I had planned.
 
@Ffisegydd After our conversation about that I went through my backlog of messages and pretty much asked questions including inquiries about pay. Funny enough, the ones that got back, always want to "have a chat" first. :)
 
Yep.
 
we are seen as items in a warehouse to be sold to companies for commission
 
They're not (that) stupid.
After all, the average dev deals with a handful of recruiters over the course of their lives, whilst the average recruiter will deal with dozens of devs a day.
 
2:28 PM
That is true. Something that I am not educated on, however, is the abundance of these recruiters
Did they explode in numbers due to services like LinkedIn?
 
throw a rock in a bush and ten recruiters jump out?
I don't have any personal experience but that sounds plausible
 
I just feel like a lot of people in that sales-type/recruiting field has dropped whatever thing they were doing to go in the field of "technical recruiting" because devs are considered hot commodities that they can make good commission off of.
 
well I'm told geeks are sexy
 
by whom?
 
2:31 PM
People that want to ingratiate themselves to geeks, presumably
 
Insert rant here about the Big Bang Theory and cultural appropriation
 
oh Big Bang Theory....it's on my list of things I dislike the most.
 
I wish there were programming jobs in my area so my employers felt like they had to be competitive. :P
 
DSM
Culturally-sensitive cabbage for all!
 
2:33 PM
Sir DSM
You mentioned CI things yesterday. Looking forward to your questions.
 
@WayneWerner my understanding was that compression is generally turned on
Just anyway
 
DSM
@idjaw: I will definitely have some for you. There are three main teams I interact with here, and one of them is substantially ahead of the others in terms of coding and testing-- we're trying to drag the other two ahead. (One of the codebases has a whole bunch of files called test_, half of which aren't tests, and half of which don't even run. So we're starting from a difficult place.)
 
Sorry for a very late reply :)
 
@DSM test_ that isn't test...hmm..interesting :) Do you guys have a CI in place already that you are trying to get the other teams caught up to? Or are you collectively trying to put together a new solution?
 
DSM
@idjaw: Team FI is using jenkins, and I think I'm going to propose the other two teams join them, but we were using a different one at my last port of call. Today's going to be an SQL-interface day but next week I'll probably look at deciding which direction we should go.
 
2:41 PM
I want to track anaonymous users using flask. What variable should I use for the Session ID?
 
Whichever one you want.
 
DSM
PyCharm question: working with a 2.7 project. Have the interpreter set to the Anaconda 2.7 in settings; the Python Console window brings up 2.7.11; but the shell you get in Terminal is ---2.7---3.5. Is there a way to automatically keep those in sync?
 
Maybe I should generate a random number
and set it
 
Maybe
 
@davidism Would that be a good way or is there a better way like a built in one?
 
2:43 PM
cool. @DSM definitely hit me up when you get around to it. We are currently using Jenkins as part of our CI stack. And I'm actually currently working on a massive new CI migration that we just deployed that is my current addiction I'm having fun with :)
 
Are you having a problem? The session is already unique to each session, not sure what you're having trouble doing.
 
Is there a value for that I can access from the session object?
 
DSM
Aargh, my pycharm question makes no sense because I wrote 2.7 where I meant 3.5 and time constraints meant I didn't manage to strikethrough correctly. :-(
 
I'll google
 
@DSM I think I understood. Are you pretty much saying that your editor is set to <some version> but when you open terminal in PyCharm it is <other version>?
 
2:46 PM
stackoverflow.com/questions/15156132/… says "There is no session id."
 
@Wally that's an answer for you
 
DSM
@idjaw: yeah, the "Python Console" version correctly points to 2.7, but Terminal doesn't seem to be running in a 2.7 conda environment like I thought. (Disclaimer: up until a week ago I'd never spent any time with PyCharm, but they use it here, so my ignorance is massive.)
 
@Wally The answer is pretty clear. Especially the part that says to generate one using uuid:

At login, generate an unique id and save it on the session (flask.session['uid'] = uuid.uuid4(), for example), then save it on your database.
 
Yeah, because the session is already unique to each browser session. You can put whatever you want in the session after that. A uuid would give you a constant value for that session.
 
@DSM checking for you (I have IntelliJ though at work)
 
2:50 PM
I'm unable to find how to access that value in Google.
What do I do to get the unique ID
 
I'd be cool if I found that. I'm unable to find it.
 
like in the answer?
> At login, generate an unique id and save it on the session (flask.session['uid'] = uuid.uuid4(), for example), then save it on your database.
I know zero flask but that seems straightforward
you generate an arbitrary uuid yourself, and store it in a suitable something <flask lingo here>
then wherever you put it, it'll be there
 
@DSM So, it is also behaving as you specified, and I also ran it by our resident IntelliJ expert and he gave it a thumbs down. You pretty much get a terminal that at best will put itself in context of your project root and that's about it. It's definitely running my profile since the terminal is 'templated' like the standard one I use. But does not seem like there is a way for it to automatically play nice with whatever Python you set up in your project
 
Are you using the Antti flavour of PyCharm?
 
2:54 PM
maybe other fellow PyCharm users toyed with it?
 
it's only giving you a hint
 
DSM
@idjaw: okay, at least I'm not missing anything obvious. I want to yank this particular group into 3 ASAP anyhow, and this is one more (admittedly rather minor) reason to do so. ;-)
 
What's your actual role at NumberFirm, @DSM?
 
@DSM For completion sake. Here is the blurb on what you can do with the terminal. From the settings it really does not seem like you can do much to configure defaults: jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/2016.1/…
unless you had some fancy <thing> running in your bash profile that tried to detect where it was running from and see if it can figure out what version it should use every time you launch.
hmm...I wonder...(should I really travel down this rabbit hole?)
 
I have to lookup what uuid.uuid4() does
 
3:02 PM
you do.
 
@idjaw they can google, don't worry:P
 
Worrying has been embedded in to my soul ever since I became a parent. It just comes out.
 
well if you're Canadian you're already halfway there, right?
 
3:03 PM
It's a double problem when you add the Canadian thing.
 
DSM
@Ffisegydd: so I'm a senior numerical developer who's cross-portfolio. I'm responsible for Python development across a number of projects, and the idea is that ultimately I'll be spending all my time doing the algorithms and the more junior devs will take over some of the other stuff. But Python's been growing significantly in the firm over the last few years, but not always in the right direction.
So first I need to get the different teams' code to the state you'd demand from a beginner github project..
 
Oh hey, Tesla introduced a "lower" version of their Model S. Now it is just 66K USD. Pffftt...PEANUTS!
 
hey all, just starting using the pycharm ide and it seems to be a memory hog, any ideas/tweaks to decrease it from lagging my pc?
 
how much RAM do you have?
 
3:12 PM
8GB's .. I know it is a sufficient amount to run it and other things at the same time, but Wing seemed to run smoother, but only had a free trial :(
 
hello :)
 
I have 8GB on both my personal and work laptops. I'm currently using IntelliJ and have two large projects open and my RAM usage is about 1.5GB.
 
i searched google for it already, but it seems i enter the wrong search terms, i want to convert an rgb code of 32X32 pixels into the actual image
 
My fan just goes berserk every time I'm using the application and everything just seems slower :/ I can still do everything i want of course
 
> I
 
3:14 PM
late morning cabbages, all
 
hello gadget
 
Pillow can create actual images. I suggest Pillow.
 
@lucyb you can disable inspections and error highlighting, but then what's the point. It's a big program, there's not much you can do.
 
thank you kev
 
I think this is the first time someone has called Kevin, Kev during my existence in this chat room.
 
3:16 PM
didnt want full name to ping him ?
 
yea i want those things...was just wondering if there was some secret tricks to reduce lag
 
> I
 
lag -= 1 didn't work?
 
from PIL import Image
img = Image.new("RGB", (32, 32))
pix = img.load()
for x in range(32):
    for y in range(32):
        color = ??? #somehow get the pixel data from your rgb code
        pix[x,y] = color
img.save("output.png")
 
DSM
@idjaw: I think Bhargav does it. And it happens occasionally..
 
3:17 PM
@hmmmbob FYI, pinging is only done when prefixed with the @
 
@hmmmbob the @ plug the name is what pings
 
ah ok :)
 
@DSM I stand corrected. :)
 
@lucyb fan is CPU, not memory
 
^^ yes
 
3:18 PM
this is true
 
@DSM scribbles in journal sounds cool.
 
@hmmmbob matplotlib.pyplot.imshow or cv2.imshow (from opencv2)
 
@idjaw Tesla should do a Model T that only comes in black.
 
thank you as well Andras
 
That'll attract some patriotism bucks
 
3:20 PM
I'd use the former, opencv is a fickle thing and its documentation sucks
 
@RobertGrant hah. I wonder if they would be able to get away with that?
 
@RobertGrant was that a reference to black tea?
 
The Ford Model T (colloquially known as the Tin Lizzie, T‑Model Ford, Model T, or T) is an automobile that was produced by Ford Motor Company from October 1, 1908, to May 26, 1927. It is generally regarded as the first affordable automobile, the car that opened travel to the common middle-class American; some of this was because of Ford's efficient fabrication, including assembly line production instead of individual hand crafting. The Ford Model T was named the most influential car of the 20th century in the 1999 Car of the Century competition, ahead of the BMC Mini, Citroën DS, and Volkswagen...
 
beat me to it :)
 
DSM
Urf, this code depends on a version of pymongo so old I can't find a match in conda. :-| :-/
 
3:21 PM
ahh
 
are americans proud of tesla? because its an american company? or not so much because its not the "classic american car" ?
 
@DSM yikes
 
@DSM Install a newer version and see if things still work. :P
chance it! :D
 
DSM
@idjaw: I'm flattered you think I bothered to try to install the matching version before just installing the current version from conda and hoping for the best. :-)
 
@hmmmbob If your data is simply a sequence of R,G,B bytes then you can turn it into a PPM file just by sticking a very simple header onto it. But if that's not the case, or you prefer another image file format, then Kevin's suggestion to use PIL is probably the simplest solution.
 
3:23 PM
I wonder if it's possible to buy a brand-new-yet-historically-accurate model T in this modern day. The wikipedia page says you can buy imitation parts, but I imagine some assembly is required if you go that route.
 
@PM2Ring nooo
matplotlib is the simplest:P
 
i have pictures as a 4d tensor, where first and second dimension is height and width.. third is rgb.. and 4th is image number
 
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
import numpy as np

dummypic=np.random.random_integers(low=0,high=255,size=(32,32,3,4))
plt.figure()
plt.imshow(dummypic[:,:,:,2])
numpy only for data generation ^
you can remove the axes and whatnot if that bothers you
 
7 upvotes.... =/

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37730174/if-statement-syntax-error
 
3:30 PM
well OK, it will still leave a white border if you remove the axis
so you should run pdfcrop or something if you're lazy
so all in all I agree, PIL might be simpler
and you'd need interpolation='none' to avoid smearing in the result, if you choose matplotlib
 
Guys any good package for handling csv easily ?
 
@DeltaWeb csv
 
mvce stackoverflow.com/q/37730274/344286 (except that's probably impossible, because I'm pretty sure it's how do I write img.save('/path/to/file') :P
 
lel something else than csv
 
people often abuse pandas for handling csvs, that might work for you:P
 
3:35 PM
@WayneWerner [tag:cv-pls]
 
right
:P
 
:D
 
@AndrasDeak oooh shiny!
btw, has anyone here played a card game called Fluxx?
 
nope
 
@inspectorG4dget I love that game!
All of Looney Lab's games are great.
 
3:37 PM
@MorganThrapp there's a Firefly version of it
 
I need it.
 
It's in my buddy's game library. We haven't gotten to it yet.
 
Also, me first!
 
in the Firefly version, "Mystery Play" is called "Shiny", and all the goal cards are on theme ("Yes sir! Captain Tightpants", "Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal", etc)
come to Ottawa, and we'll play in the new g4dgetcave
 
I should watch Firefly...
 
3:39 PM
Between you and idjaw, you're making it harder and harder to not go to Canada.
 
Firefly is fantastic
 
dude, you're in Boston (IIRC). We're not even that far away - it's like a 5 hour drive. Come over for Canada Day, even
We'll O! Canada it up!
 
I'll be up in Vancouver next month
 
@inspectorG4dget NY, but close.
 
@WayneWerner do you actually live on the west coast, though? If not, try to route your flight through Ottawa/Montreal
 
3:41 PM
@WayneWerner I know, but it also meets an untimely end:(
which makes me wary, I don't want my heart to break
 
@MorganThrapp isn't that closer, somehow?
 
Dead Like Me was similar, quite nice show, it just stopped and meh
 
@WayneWerner make sure you check out Stanley Park. Also, me and the family went to this awesome place the kids absolutely loved, called The Capilano Suspension Bridge
 
@inspectorG4dget According to Google, I'm a 6 hour drive from Ottawa.
 
3:42 PM
Perfect! I'll wait for you with Tim Horton's coffee and a beavertail
 
I loved Dead Like Me
 
user559633
Traveling Snakesman Problem
 
speaking of people within reasonable driving distance
 
I do have to say that if there is a place I would drive out to, I would go back to Boston. I loved my last visit.
 
3:44 PM
@idjaw I don't have a car. So you should totally drive up to me :P
 
@inspectorG4dget Arkansas. Um... looks like I'll be going through Chicago O'Hare and from there to BC
 
I'd drive up to you. But if we are going to Boston, you're coming to me first :P

https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/Montreal,+QC/Ottawa,+ON/Boston,+MA,+United+States/@43.9401645,-75.6238295,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m20!4m19!1m5!1m1!1s0x4cc91a541c64b70d:0x654e3138211fefef!2m2!1d-73.567256!2d45.5016889!1m5!1m1!1s0x4cce05b25f5113af:0x8a6a51e131dd15ed!2m2!1d-75.6971931!2d45.4215296!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e3652d0d3d311b:0x787cbf240162e8a0!2m2!1d-71.0588801!2d42.3600825!3e0
 
user559633
Yeah, if you come to Boston, let me know and I'll clear time in my schedule
 
is that a plan for a Road Trip, I hear? I'm an excellent navigator/DJ. We should totally do it up , and go visit Morgan along the way
 
Sounds like a plan to me!
 
3:47 PM
Ottawa (iG4) -> Montreal (idjaw) -> NY (Morgan) -> Boston (tristan)
 
THE WORLD!
 
@idjaw that's more than a Hungary across
 
I'll make a round of Python based cocktails. I dunno what that'll be, but I'll figure something out.
 
user559633
Matt DMo and Corvid are Boston-area too
 
oh yeah. We absolutely need Morgan. He's our traveling barman
 
3:48 PM
@MorganThrapp the kind of tequila with a snake inside?
 
Yeah don't make the mistake of stopping in my area (between idjaw and morgan).
 
Probably something created at drinking time and colored like a panda.
 
... and the Caesar wept, for there were no more places within driving distance with "sopython people"
 
Man. We can totally have SOPython East
 
3:49 PM
That reminds me to plot the map ;)
 
user559633
@MorganThrapp midori would make it bright green
 
I went to Boston six weeks ago for the PAX convention, but didn't tell tristan on account of anxiety and such. Next time for sure.
 
@idjaw YUP.
@tristan Yeah, but then we have to drink Midori.
 
Plan your trips!!
 
I'll use Green Chartreuse for coloring before I'll buy a bottle of Midori.
 
user559633
3:50 PM
@Kevin :( you monster. we could have awkwardly had a beer and had a bunch of false starts of conversation with "heh, no you go"
 
Weird, I don't show on there it appears.
 
user559633
whoa who did we send to the night's watch?
 
@tristan Awkward meetup '17, mark your calendar
 
wow seriously...who donned the black?
 
Not sure which day. Just circle the whole year, generally
 
3:50 PM
@Programmer Just a prank, Look behind there's a camera
 
@tristan DSM of house numpy?
 
@Kevin You went to PAX? My jealousy of you knows no bounds.
 
Yeah it was pretty sweet
I did catch a cold that took me two weeks to fully shake off, but all in all it was a net positive
 
I must hunt you down and transfer your memories to me through hypnosis.
 
'Kay.
 
3:52 PM
I can't promise you'll survive the procedure, mostly because I'll probably stab you.
 
Gotta make a hole to get the memories out, obv
 
user559633
I was going to make a joke about circling the year for mumble meetup '17, but instead ran into OS X not letting me dtrace system executables
 
This is pretty hilarious: twinfinite.net/2016/05/…
 
£700 round trip flights to Boston. £72 for PAX tickets.
 
user559633
But more productively, give me a couple months and I can come up with a big list of optimal dates/events and travel arrangements for a sopython east meetup
 
3:55 PM
I'd drive to Boston. Can't be much worse than Montreal :)
 
@tristan that actually sounds really awesome. I would need time to to sort things out with the family and me ditching my wife with two toddlers. :P
(I can't believe she puts up with me sometimes...)
 
user559633
@idjaw oh, i was going add a secondary layer to the problem solver to arrange for an event for traveling families
 
DSM
Every day makes me more impressed that those of you who develop under Windows manage to get anything done.
 
would be interested to see how that would work out too. @tristan
@DSM I know....Looks judgmentally at Morgan and Kevin
 
Hey, I have Bash now. I'm basically running BSD now.
 
user559633
3:58 PM
@MorganThrapp i will chase you down and end you with teeth
 
The only thing I ever have trouble with is getting libraries to work if I can't use pip.
 
PowerShell is bash, right?
 
@tristan Can you do it soon so that I don't have to deal with this stupid SQL mess any more?
 
@tristan Just keep in mind that I'm a student who just bought a condo. So I'm broker than usual (if that were even possible). So my preference is to have this in Ottawa so that I can be cheap and not have to pay for travel/lodging. Also, if anyone wants to sleep on my couch and partake in my awesome french toast...
 
> The reason we struggle with insecurity is because we compare our behind-the-scenes with everyone else’s highlight reel.
-- Stephen Furtick, on the topic of effective Windows software development
 
user559633
3:59 PM
@idjaw i'm working through user screen design/implementation/not-knowing-what-i'm-doing-with-JS now, but once i get it working, i'll give you admin hooks into your account so you get debugging output
 

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