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12:00 PM
@poke
Small help from you
 
@Bonifacio2 have you read this? obeythetestinggoat.com
It's really good
 
@poke I can't edit sopython. So Can you add my b'day to the list?
 
Why can’t you edit? You should be able to
 
@BhargavRao I can add it. What is the date?
 
Naw, It is a bug in sopython site. Fizzy told he will correct it
 
12:01 PM
Aww, what a cute goat!
@BhargavRao Ah, I see, when’s the date?
 
22nd June
 
Is there a trick to getting rst2html.py to work? I'm trying to run a simple example command rst2html.py Lab1.rst Lab1.html where Lab1 is a 16K file, and it's been going for a good 5 minutes.
 
@Paco Nope. I didn't. but i have the impression that I've read this in its early version.
 
@BhargavRao Check it out if it's correct
 
Thanks
 
12:03 PM
cool :)
 
@Jerry Did we edit it at the same time now? ^^
 
Could be @poke :o
 
:D
@poke The bug is mentioned here github.com/sopython/sopython-site/issues/34
 
@Bonifacio2 There was an early release indeed
 
Back.
 
12:05 PM
I haven't finished to read it, but it's been brilliant so far
 
@Katherina Sorry, I use python 2 not 3.
 
user4433485
@InbarRose No problem :)
 
@poke yep. more than none. :P
 
Working for you now?
I think in python 3 you need to switch raw_input to input.
 
@Paco I'll add it to my wishlist. Melon.
I'm reading 'clean code' by Uncle Bob and really enjoying it.
 
12:11 PM
@Bonifacio2, in the book, the author mentions this book: cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/book.html
Have just read the intro, and it seems very interesting too
in the TDD book, the author mentions this book*
 
Any book recommendations, @Jerry, @JonClements, @thefourtheye, @Ffisegydd, @MartijnPieters?
 
@Bonifacio2 please don't mass ping people like that.
 
Sorry, I haven't read any programming books ^^;
 
@Ffisegydd sorry.
 
Dive into Python is a must read too
 
12:13 PM
I live off the docs and... google most of the time lol
 
@Jerry, yeah most of the time that's more than ok to do this
 
^^^ more than a few good books there
 
^^^^^^ that’s what I was referring to with “More?”
 
How come only Kevin's books have hyperlinks?
 
Everything I linked is something you can read for free online. I assume all the other books need to be purchased.
 
12:25 PM
speak of the devil.. and here they arrive :p
 
How does the devil arrive without pinging?
:D
 
Just a coincidence. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
Also Kevin, you've been pushed off the star board!
 
Hi Kevin.
 
Yo @InbarRose
 
12:27 PM
My on-and-off appearances here are becoming more frequent.
 
I see that Air has links for one or two of his own recommendations, but they seem to lead to Wikipedia rather than any place you can read it. Maybe I ought to modify my links so it's clear which ones are "click here to learn more" and which ones are "click here to read"
 
@BhargavRao as long as he's not on the port
 
Like, have a [read] link separate from the title, maybe...
 
Yep, we should tell puppy to do the changes
 
@Inbar it's always a pleasure to have you here
 
12:29 PM
Hi @InbarRose, the inventor of Salad!
:)
 
@poke sorry. i didn't know about this page. :/
 
@InbarRose cbg
 
@JonClements thanks for the link. :D
 
@InbarRose who thought cabbage goes in salad? :)
 
@Bonifacio2 No worries :) (tbh. I’m not sure if most of those recommendations are useful anyway)
 
12:33 PM
maybe we should separate technical and non-technical stuff?
 
@RobertGrant Dude. Cabbage is important in any good salad.
 
I think they're already separated, in the sense that there aren't any technical books on the list ;-)
 
well... maybe not. technical books would be an empty list
 
@BhargavRao Co-Inventor. :)
 
The Python wiki has technical books pretty well covered, I think
 
12:35 PM
@InbarRose I have my answer, then :)
 
@InbarRose Yeah, puppy's the other guy dog
 
Even a purple version.
Cabbage is GREAT in salad.
 
@InbarRose That’s red cabbage
 
@poke rdcbg
I could do that
 
@poke Yes, but it is clearly purple.
 
12:39 PM
@poke Red when its acidic
 
but that’s its name!
 
@poke And tomatoes are fruits. But you don't put them in your icecream.
I And I like starting sentences with contractions.
 
OR DO YOU?!?!?
 
rbrb guys
 
Hmmmm
 
12:40 PM
Okay, amazing.
 
going to the doctor
 
lol
rhubarb @thefourtheye
 
@thefourtheye All the best ... Rbrb
 
 
@thefourtheye Tomato icecream was too much.
 
12:40 PM
Carrots!
 
Clearly someone has taken this too far.
 
That is...weird
 
Tomato & Cherry o.O
 
Is that Japanese?
 
yes
 
12:41 PM
carrot and orange
yes
 
Trust the Japanese to create tomato ice cream.
Probably actually very good.
 
tomato cherry
 
Don't they understand? They're not making vegetables better, they're making ice cream worse!
 
Interestingly, many typical so called "vegetable" salads are actually fruit salads
 
Something weird always happens in Japan
(insert 9gag meme here)
 
12:43 PM
@BhargavRao (Or don't)
 
@InbarRose tomato for instance.
 
:D I had seen that years ago. I have lost the image :(
 
@poke In the South of France, you can get some very special ice cream
like rose ice cream
bascially anything you can think of
and they are absolutely amazing
 
@Paco spaghetti bolognaise ice cream?
 
@RobertGrant You can stop now.
 
12:46 PM
@Paco Rose Ice Cream is available in South India as well
 
here's the list actually
 
@InbarRose you catch on quick
 
From my childhood memories, I thought they were gonna be more than that
i am disappointed
there were*
:'(
 
beer flavored ice cream!
 
@paco Still all sound great though
@Bonifacio2 I've had that; not a fan.
 
12:49 PM
can i have a wheat beer ice cream?
 
@RobertGrant Catch on to what?
 
Bye :) Rbrb all
 
user4396006
Hey guys how do you call the module raw_input in python 3.4?
 
user4396006
NameError: name 'raw_input' is not defined
 
@JuanRocamonde Make it input
 
12:51 PM
@InbarRose it took @Ffisegydd much longer to start telling me to stop talking :)
 
it was mentioned earlier that you had to use input(), no?
 
It is changed in python3
 
user4396006
Ok, thank you all
 
@RobertGrant It is clear to me that you are prone to lengthy sessions of trolling.
@Jerry I just wrote that too. :)
 
:P
 
12:56 PM
I was reminded of this earlier. Took me a while to find it. Hopefully you will all appreciate it.
 
What. As if Randall Monroe things pomegranates aren't tasty.
 
As tasty as banana's it seems.
 
@InbarRose why are pomegranates more untasty than watermelons? Watermelons just taste like water
 
strawberries are not high enough
 
I'm glad he recognises the universal fact that green apples > red apples.
 
12:57 PM
also: where are raspberries?!
 
Cherries aren't high enough either.
 
@Ffisegydd Absolutely.
 
Cherries > Strawberries.
 
No way.
 
Yes way.
 
12:58 PM
Also totally depends on the cherry type
 
lemons are untasty? Lemons are delicious
 
@corvid You eat a lemon, I eat an apple. Works for me.
 
@InbarRose I'm not sure where you got that from based on my conversation, but okay, sorry.
 
@BobbyG Yeah you god damn troll.
 
I have lemons at my work station and eat them occasionally, they're delicious. Also, ridiculous amounts of pomegranate seeds when they're in season. Like five pomegranates a day
 
1:00 PM
Pomegranates are amazing. Shame the juice is so expensive.
 
I make my own apple cider with the apples I grow. It's delicious
 
Do you make actual cider or do you make apple juice?
Cos if you make proper cider then you are my new favourite bird.
FYI: In the UK cider means the alcoholic drink, the non-alcoholic drink we'd just call "apple juice"
 
Ohh, that's called "hard cider" here. I don't make that, but I do make mead with the honey from the orchard bees. Mead is the easiest alcoholic beverage to make
 
Oh dude. Mead is lovely.
 
it's really rare to find though, guess it's just not very popular
 
1:04 PM
FYI: In the UK cider means the alcoholic drink, the non-alcoholic drink we'd just call "apple juice" -> Ciders like Magners ?
 
Magners is a cider yes.
It's not the best, bit it is a cider.
 
I don't like these ciders
too sweet
it's like it's saturated from sugar
(no offence at all)
 
sounds like you need some zombie killer
 
There's lots of different types of cider. I live in the South West of UK which is the "home" of cider and so we have a lot of cider around here, most of it brewed within 10 miles.
 
That's the furthest the drivers can go before they drink it all
(And THAT is trolling)
(Or is it just amazing cider?)
 
1:09 PM
The cider I drink is usually 7-9%. (14-18% proof)
 
Do you know this fun beer:
 
for some reason that reminds me of my favorite coffee, DeathWish coffee
 
Not sure if I'm reposting, but I think it's worth the risk
 
Whew, I almost had to ask a question in the C# room, but I figured it out while composing the message.
Did you know? Decimals are bigger than Int32s.
 
hey my thing is actually getting downloads now
 
@corvid I am so, so proud :-)
 
that's all I ever wanted, Kevin ;_; I did it all for you
 
@corvid What thing?
 
1:16 PM
Ok. You have my approval, so you can stop now.
 
my career in programming can now be completed, now that I have succeeded in receiving possibly sarcastic approval from Kevin!
@SomeGuy OAuth library, though it's written in JavaScript
 
Serioustalk: I'm glad to hear that people find your work useful :-)
 
Link?
 
My app's downloads have stagnated and it makes me sad :/
 
1:18 PM
what did you make?
 
It was bound to happen, though
 
btw, I was wondering, does SOPython need any JavaScript work, or is the code base meant to stay as minimal on JS as possible?
 
It's an Android app that lets you send links from your phone to Chrome on your desktop
 
Now entering the "how did this ever work?" stage of debugging...
 
Urgh.
Ignore me. I can figure it out
 
1:21 PM
@Intrepid what up dawg?
You getting your Fourier on?
 
Yep. It's not so much the theory I'm having problems with - just interacting with scipy
The documentation is both really good and lacking at the same time
 
You won't necessarily get the same plot back though.
 
I'm just trying to implement a simple passband filter, and it's melting my brain
 
Because you may have lost phase information if you ignore the imaginary component.
 
Well, I shouldn't have, because I'm not discarding the phase information at any point. I'm dealing with complex numbers all the way through my code.
 
1:24 PM
Ah ok.
 
(and I'm not discarding the mirror or any such cargo culting shenanigans)
 
So you have some data in complex form and you'd like to fft it, remove the freq outside of your band, then inverse fft it?
 
Precisely. Nothing particularly difficult - yet something has gone wrong somewhere
I need to handle the complex numbers somehow at the end, because the 3rd party charting library can't deal with complex numbers
Not sure the best way to tackle that, but I don't think I'm getting the right complex numbers at the end of the inverse anyhow
 
Ah I see.
You haven't accidentally make a bandcut filter? :P
 
At this point, I wouldn't put it past me.
(ps - I hate working from home. I'm now constantly fighting the urge to procrastinate and do housework/anything else)
 
1:30 PM
SO is super slow for me today…
 
Me too. I thought it was my local connection.
(It still could be, but now that's less likely)
 
cbg
 
I can't even edit - I click the button, and the edit window comes up, but there are no buttons or text areas.
 
@poke It could be the StackEgg.
 
Just a border and the "X" that closes it
 
1:32 PM
The only thing that works for me without delay is chat.
 
SO is currently slow for me too, but SE.mathematics is fine.
 
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Q: Turn off stackegg

JohanStackegg is the lastest effort in gamefying Stackoverflow. However short of adding additional rules to adblock, there is no way to turn it off. The rules for adblock are: ||cdn.sstatic.net/stackegg/* ||cdn.sstatic.net/Js/stackegg.js?* Can we please have an x somewhere in the stackegg regi...

And
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A: What's StackEgg?

Jay BlanchardIf you find the Egg is slowing you down too much: Click on the Stack Egg to open it's dialog box. Click the question mark in the upper right hand corner. Check the two checkboxes on the right hand side, under the egg. ????? Profit! Does this mean that I win the Internet for speeding it back...

 
I just cv'ed a Q (which took a while to open), and it took at least 30 seconds for the voting window to pop up. stackoverflow.com/questions/29369620/…
 
@PM2Ring Yeah, I was on the CVQ, and by the time the close dialog popped up, I'd forgotten why I wanted to close the question.
 
SO Meta's pretty slow, too, but not as bad as the main SO site.
@matsjoyce :)
 
user4433485
1:36 PM
Back!
 
Newest combatant in the category “answers unlikely to help OP”: stackoverflow.com/questions/29369391/…
(yes, I’m proud about that)
 
FWIW, I've been busy infiltrating Python onto SE.Mathematics. :) math.stackexchange.com/a/1214326/207316
@poke groupby(sorted(data, key=key), key) Nice
 
@PM2Ring Wish there was a sort-aware groupby
 
user4433485
sys.exit(0) will this quit my program?
 
Yup
 
1:40 PM
@poke key = lambda x: x[1] could be key = operator.itemgetter(1)
 
user4433485
It's not doing anything yet
 
len('key = operator.itemgetter(1)') > len('key = lambda x: x[1]') ;P
 
@Katherina Unless you catch SystemExit.
 
@Katherina I think you need more stuff if you are in tkinter
 
user4433485
ahh
 
1:42 PM
> Stack Overflow is currently offline for maintenance
 
Eek, it's offline for maintenance
 
user4433485
def leave():
     sys.exit(0)

menubar = Menu(window)
filemenu = Menu(menubar, tearoff=0)
filemenu.add_command(label="Exit", command=leave)
menubar.add_cascade(label="File", menu=filemenu)
 
@Katherina stackoverflow.com/questions/110923/close-a-tkinter-window <- This might help once SO is back
(maybe)
(couldn’t read it)
 
user4433485
mm
 
@RobertGrant I knew it. The Egg cracked it.
 
1:43 PM
@Katherina IIRC, the correct way to terminate a Tkinter program is command=root.destroy
Where "root" is the name of your base Tk() object
 
@matsjoyce yeah, it's fried
 
@RobertGrant Next DDoS attack...
They must have seen
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Q: Is Stack Overflow accessible in China?

alex0112I am aware that the Chinese Government blocks certain websites, are any of the Stack Exchange sites among them?

 
user4433485
Thanks @Kevin !
 
Oh, the perils of rolling out time-sensitive new features.
 
1:46 PM
And the world grinds to a halt
 
@Ffisegydd One mystery solved. Literally half way there (why has all the negative data been eaten?)
 
@Intrepid got some code and data?
Or just code.
 
Give me a sec
 
I have a FANTASTIC python package for generating randomised numerical data which I can use for it.
 
SO's back, but they've dropped the eggs...
 
1:51 PM
Bah. I wanted to use coroutines in javascript, but it looks like not all browsers support them.
I don't want to write state machines :-(
 
@matsjoyce Eggcellent
 
@PM2Ring Smashing and bannanas
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/29369620/… : too broad / resource request; only 3 more votes to go. :)
 
@PM2Ring 2...
 
Yay! I got an accept on my 1st SO Meta answer: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/287631/4014959
 

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