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12:07 PM
 
@PeterVaro - I've set up a private room. Want to pick your brain if that's okay?
 
12:26 PM
@Martijn we must have a "count vowels" dupe somewhere...
 
12:41 PM
This PyCharm is great. Thanks to all who recommended it.
 
welcome @Kastriot
 
hello every one
 
@RomanLuštrik cool hey :)
 
@RobertGrant ?
 
12:42 PM
i'm android developer
and i have started to learn python now
for making web api's
i'm new too python
which is best framework in python for making web api's
?
 
well, if you've got Java experience, you'll find Python, at first a bit of a stumbling block about the way to think about it, but ultimately, easy and a pleasurable experience :)
 
i really like it
 
there's no "best" - it all depends what you want to do and how you want to scale etc...
 
i take a look at django and really liked
 
(and if you ever intend to market a framework as part of your job skills for employment etc... etc...)
 
12:45 PM
how much do you think i need to learn pure python before jumping in any framework ?
 
I personally think (don't take that as an authoritative source though) that learning the basics of a language first is paramount to being able to use a framework correctly
 
yes i agree with you
how much experience you have in python ?
 
@JonClements local phrasing, means cool, isn't it? :)
 
@JonClements
 
@KastriotDreshaj about 15 years now
 
12:49 PM
wowwww
in witch area python rocks i mean , in web or network or games ?
or desktop applications
 
When you say network, what are you thinking of?
 
like most general purpose languages, you can apply it to whatever you want
 
I wouldn't write a router OS in it :)
 
@KastriotDreshaj one thing you might be interested in is the Kivy Project
 
12:52 PM
i like more native :D in moblie app
but i want to use python for making web api 's
 
Also, the major hurdle in learning Python is that everything's named ridiculously. So there's CPython and Cython, and Pypy and Pypi
 
so - what's your experience with APIs?
 
All totally different things
 
i dont have experience with API's i only have experience in Android
 
As a beginner myself, I think Python's got some nice tools for that sort of thing, and you won't be disappointed
 
12:54 PM
presumably, you've written an Android that has to interact with a 3rd party API before?
 
If you like Django then maybe check out the Django REST framework
 
ahgghgh, nearly 1pm, need to get ready for some calls, brb - sorry to bow out
 
1) race around finding where I put my folder of notes, and 2) decipher my hand writing
 
12:56 PM
If you need to throw together something simpler, maybe look at Flask instead of Django as a simpler web framework (that does less for you)
 
@RobertGrant yes i saw Django Rest framework i need to start learning but i dont have too much time
couse i work as android developer
 
How much time do you have?
 
i mean like 2 hours in day
 
I work as a Python developer - doesn't stop me having to keep on top of C++/C#/Haskell/Erlang
 
and like 4 hours in weekends
 
12:57 PM
re-cbg
 
re-cbg @Ffisegydd
 
jon do you work as web developer ?
 
great - can't find my notes... might have to go for 3) nod sagely, and bluff it
 
@JonClements career plan b: management consulting
 
12:59 PM
haha... I also do emergency business/management consulting as part of my work :)
 
Nice nods sagely
 
it's a laugh - get to be a drill sergeant kinda thing :p
ahhh... bloody timezones... it's 2pm not 1pm.... relaxes a little
@Robert oh... thanks for your reminding me, I emailed Giles, and we're having a google hangout tomorrow to discuss the stuff re: Sphere and what pythonanywhere can do blah blah
 
Cool :)
Seems like a cool guy
 
heya @Highstaker
 
Sort for pot shots, but I'm a bit confused why print(x) and print x are equivalent. Is there a preferred usage of one over the other?
 
1:13 PM
/me waves
 
@Roman it depends on Python 2 or 3.
 
I'm still on 2.7.
 
In Python 2 print is a statement, so print x works. You can still do print(x) but the brackets are pretty redundant (think doing (2) + (3)).
In Python 3, it's changed to a function though, so you need the ()
 
Aaaah, I thought it's the other way around. Good to know, thanks.
 
What you can (and I'd advise you do) is do from __future__ import print_function at the top of your code. This will force you to use print(), makes it much easier to transition to Python 3.x if ever you need to.
 
1:16 PM
nods sagely
 
@RobertGrant stop nicking my technique!
 
shakes head thymely
 
How do I write it like Robert just did?
 
*nods sagely*
 
ah giggles
 
1:17 PM
@Ffisegydd Is there any way we can check type of print which is a statement. I mean we can check type of a function which returns <type 'function'> but type(print) gives syntax error.
 
print doesn't have a type in 2.7 because it's not an object at all
you may as well ask what is the type of "if"
 
greetings and salutations @Kevin
 
@JonClements Greetings
 
@JonClements That's cabbages and carrots.
 
So can we say that every thing in Python is an object except statements like print, if etc ?
 
1:19 PM
Everything in Python that is an object is an object, but if it's not an object then it's not an object.
 
"And the holy spaghetti monster said: "let there be blue printing material". And lo, it sat on my floor, unused as I realise nobody wants things printed in blue. It's always sodding red they want."
 
... and a statement is a statement
 
@TanveerAlam Not necessarily. For example, ( is neither a statement nor an object.
 
@Intrepid it's all about blue. Red is crap.
 
@Kevin and umm.. don't see your name down for sopython.com/wiki/sopython_T-shirts cough cough
 
1:20 PM
But + is an object, right?
 
@RobertGrant no it's a token
operator.add is an object
 
Yeah, sorry
I'm getting confused between Python and The Language That Shall Not Be Named
 
@Ffisegydd It's true. But the majority of the population apparently disagree.
 
It's okay, Javamorde was defeated by Harry
 
I was thinking of Rubymort :)
 
1:22 PM
Surely Python would be the Slytherin house?
 
is anyone going to shoot me if I say that Ruby isn't actually all that bad?
 
Image not found...because we shot him
 
@Ffisegydd please tell me you didn't spend two minutes of your life doing that? :p
 
1:23 PM
No! I spent like 30s.
 
oh, that's okay then... :)
 
@Kevin Thanks. Is there any Python documentation describing all names of objects, statements, tokens etc.
 
I like the bracketless syntax for one-arg function calls in Ruby
 
But I'd spend any amount of time to take the mick out of Robert.
 
Possibly zero-arg as well, I forget
@Ffisegydd then your Image not found was well worth it :)
 
1:24 PM
;-;
 
(The proxy here doesn't let me see it, which I guess does mock me)
 
@TanveerAlam There's The Python Language Reference, which goes into detail regarding the meaning of things like Literal, Operator, Expression, Statement
 
can't you just set up a secure tunnel and proxy through that? :(
 
@Robert can you see i.imgur.com/X7j6PMF.jpg ?
Though honestly the joke is kinda ruined now, thanks Robert's company!
 
Ah, now I feel shame
 
1:27 PM
2 messages moved to Trash can
 
4 messages moved to recycle bin
@Ffisegydd that's interesting - did we overlap the same things? :p
 
@Kevin Thanks. :)
 
We did.
 
sopython hive mind kicking in again
 
So whats the best module for creating an online database?
 
1:30 PM
Define "best". :)
 
Piece of paper on your desk and a dull pencil.
 
SQLAlchemy,SQLite or MySQL?
 
Well SQLAlchemy is an ORM, not a database.
 
Well im wanting to write some ID's to a database to check files against.
 
@Death_Dealer the first is an ORM, the second is an on-disk DB, and the 3rd is a fully blown DB
what do you really want to do? what resources do you have available? etc... etc...
 
1:31 PM
@JonClements I'm picky when it comes to T-shirts. I don't like shirts with text (except large print, low character count, as in this design); I prefer simple geometric shapes over fiddly details (the better to be appreciated from more than a foot away); and I'm supremely particular about the texture of the material. If I can distinguish a shirt from a blank white tee just by feel, I won't wear it.
So tiny text in the shape of a unicorn is, like, the platonic ideal of a shirt I wouldn't buy
 
@Kevin get into the sopython spirit! @Ffisegydd suggested maybe a discrete logo on polo shirts instead
 
@JonClements Well im wanting to write some ID's to a database to check files against.
 
It will be both discreet and discrete.
My idea was a polo shirt along the lines of the ones PA do like store.penny-arcade.com/products/first-party-polo-v2-mens. Maybe with a small sopython logo on the breast.
 
Im not sure what you mean by resources.
 
Just wondering if any other room is as committed as this one... first the community, then our own website and projects, now "merchandising"... next year, the world! :p
 
1:35 PM
if "resources" have something to do with creating the database i wouldnt know. ive never created one before.
 
sopython 2: the search for more money
 
@Death_Dealer use sqlite.
 
@Ffisegydd thanks ill try that.
 
Something more my style might be a 4-6 inch sized SoPython logo on the center of the shirt, with no other distinguishing marks. The intertwining orange and gray shapes are sufficiently geometric for my tastes.
 
@RobertGrant ahh... then we can make sopython3 a crap prequel or something
@Kevin plus - we can use that logo according to the PSF trademark committe as it's significantly different
 
1:39 PM
Nice :-)
 
(think I've got that in an email somewhere - our first logo wasn't well received)
 
The polo idea is unobjectionable to me, but I only wear one polo a week on casual Fridays and I already have enough to last me the next decade.
 
Our original logo got:
Hi Jon,

We discussed this on the Trademarks Committee, and we feel that the "SO" superimposed on the logo changes the shape too much. Ideally, a design will leave the logo unaltered, especially its shape, and put other elements adjacent to it.

Yours, David Mertz...
Chair, Python Software Foundation Trademarks Committee
 
Ellipsis at the end of a letter, there's a new one.
Unless that's part of his name.
 
maybe it's a regex and we're to guess the following 3 letters?
 
1:42 PM
Mertzman!
Mertzzzz
Uh, insert funny third thing here!
 
Haha that looks like fun
HoloLens looks like wizardry, when they're projecting video feeds onto the walls of a real room
 
Ten paragraphs into that kickstarter pitch and I still can't figure out how one mouse per hand is supposed to work. Will you have multiple cursors on screen?
 
Yeah I think either hand can move it, or something
 
I assume you assign a "mouse hand"
And the other one won't move anything.
 
1:47 PM
@IntrepidBrit not today mate, I'm traveling, and my mind is elsewhere -- but from tomorrow we can talk about it in person :)
 
Ah, here it is in the FAQ
> "Since there's a laser under both left & right KeyMouse do they show up as 2 mouse devices?" Yes, they are 2 separate devices. Using the software, we will be able to utilize this in many useful ways, such as making 1 side move the mouse slowly (finer resolution), and the other side move it fast based on your settings. Another example application would be for 3D model rotation with 1 side, while using the mouse cursor with the other.
 
Anyway, I'm just writing an email to David to confirm
 
@PeterVaro No problem! I'll make sure I'll get to that :)
 
Well, I guess that doesn't really describe what the behavior is now, just what "we will be able" to make the behavior later.
 
@Kevin presumably you can do anything with it: disable one mouse, or use both in some way. Does it matter what they've set it to do at the moment?
Or are you thinking of getting one?
 
1:51 PM
It matters in the sense that, if you don't know, then when you read the page you'll be more puzzled than intrigued, which makes their marketing efforts less effective.
 
user image
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made my day ^
 
@Ffisegydd whatttttttttttt is that madness?
 
Oh, okay, see what you mean :)
 
It's wizardry.
 
Using a laser mouse on a lumpy leather chair armrest is certainly wizardry.
 
1:54 PM
Mine does that, it's quite cool.
Won't be getting counterstrike headshots with it, but that's partly because I don't play it and would now be rubbish
 
okay - emailed the psf and trademarks committee for good measure
 
If it wasn't a two-handed device, I could see it being useful for a home entertainment setup. Ex. your computer is hooked up to your television, and you want to be able to navigate Youtube without keeping a conventional keyboard and mouse on your coffee table.
In contrast, a one-handed mouse+keyboard wouldn't stand out too much from your assortment of remote controls
 
re-cbg
 
Yeah true. I wonder if an old-style 0-9 keyboard would work in that situation
 
The ultimate tech enthusiast might throw away the left half, configure the right for chorded typing, and just use that. Works great unless one of your guests wants to steer.
 
2:01 PM
Or a remote that was also like that thing Amazon make that's a Siri in a box
(I am the reason NLP is hard)
 
My friends have a setup as I have described, but they navigate Youtube using a phone app. I think you need a particular model to do that, though.
 
Well, iPhone + Apple TV or any phone + XBMC should work
Or use your TV remote on a smart TV or any CEC device (e.g. PS3)
Assuming PS3 supports YouTube
 
It does.
Or maybe it's a PS4. I haven't looked closely at it.
 
I love turning on my PS3 and controlling its DVD/bluray player through my normal TV remote
 
I duped this homework dump before I even realised that it was a homework dump.
 
2:05 PM
Everyone who sees me doing it says, "Don't they need to be made by the same company?" At which point I kill them.
 
@Kevin: I don't think it was even worth editing..
 
Probably not, but it gives me some satisfaction anyway :-)
Gotta fix those code backticks.
 
Little bit.
 
I think that might be a useful database :)
 
2:08 PM
Only if I get to maintain it, and accept bribes to manipulate entries.
Removing offenders, adding innocents, etc
 
working on a project at the moment which gives me access to the electoral roll, experian, equifax's databases and BT OSIS'... fear me... for I can find you :)
 
Actually, I guess there's no etc there, it's just the two
 
Er, this would be an official, recognised quality certification.
Of course you could do those things.
 
@JonClements And here I was worried about giving my shipping address to get a T-shirt. You probably already know what I had for dinner last night.
 
I need to stop looking at Kickstarter. It makes me spend money.
 
2:10 PM
You should become a cynic like me. Then you will be immune to all advertisements because the product will probably be no good anyway.
I just need to figure out how to apply cynicism to products and not people or life experiences.
 
I am a cynic. But I also like chopping things quickly
 
"Climb mount Everest? Meh, what is a mountain but a bit of pointy ground?"
 
I've always thought "because it was there" was a lousy excuse
oh... and for those in the UK... in 2016 I'm getting a new charity set up
 
What's it for?
 
(well, if my financial position is reasonable enough)
 
2:14 PM
The Jon Clements foundation for children that urgently need a script that generates random math equations and quizzes the user for the answer, please do the needful
 
well, hopefully, it'll be a kind of an "aside" to the Marie Curie trust
 
"The Jon Clements Itertools Institute"
 
I admire your charitable spirit :-)
 
the aim is to give carers a bit of away time from their loved ones
and offer phone support when they need it and such
 
I remember you mentioning it in the past, hopefully it turns out well.
 
2:16 PM
That's cool
 
well - see how it goes... ideals and real life aren't always compatible, but going to give it a go :)
 
Are you setting it up with other people?
 
I should start giving to charity. I just need to overcome my pathological fear that I'll contract an exotic disease that my health care doesn't cover, and I'll have to spend my own money to treat it, and each dollar in my account will be like a grain of sand in the hourglass of my life, so I must accumulate as much as possible and never let it go, because I would prefer to see another sunrise over sending a mosquito net to Africa, selfish as it may be.
 
@RobertGrant been in some discussions with Marie Curie, MacMillan's, The Samaritans and some hospices local to me...
@Kevin just fly over to the UK - the NHS will do it, and probably forget to invoice you :)
 
I typically give a bit to Child's Play during their Christmas drive, and I throw my spare change into the boxes by the tills in shops, but that's the total of my charitable nature. Apart from learning people on SO.
 
2:23 PM
@Kevin yes, move to a good country that doesn't treat healthcare as an optional extra #politics
 
I have an SO for Marie Curie, MacMillans and Scope each month
 
Cool, that's awesome
@Ffisegydd I haven't really been convinced of Child's Play priority in my giving :)
 
@Robert I like the idea of giving games to kids in hospitals, I've never had to really be in hospital so wouldn't know what it's like, but I like the idea.
 
@JonClements, @RobertGrant, yeah, that's my backup plan.
Maybe exposure therapy would do me some good. Just contract a little bit of an exotic disease.
 
@Ffisegydd don't mean compared to doing nothing, I mean compared to other charities
But yeah, I never experienced long-term hospitalisation either, but that's partly why I feel that way I guess
 
2:28 PM
oh wow - thank you fly for appearing from nowhere and landing in my cup of tea
 
Course the fallacy is I could always give to that as well, but don't draw my attention to it or I'll start feeling bad
 
guess I'll just make another one - but guessing it hurt it, more than it's hurt me :)
 
@Kevin my advice is: be brave :)
 
Being brave sounds scary :-(
 
@RobertGrant did you see the boohah about how the UK spends 0.7% of it's GDP on foreign aid?
 
2:32 PM
@JonClements no, but I don't really keep up. We're more worried about how soon the electricity provider will run out of cash
Anyway, I quite like the fact that the UK is a place that helps other people. Slightly makes up for the fact we also sell guns to hideous regimes
@Kevin be braver
 
and laughably, the people responsible for that, had £1bill they had to spend in 8 weeks ending the year LOL
 
hello
 
Reminds me of the poll of US citizens that say most people think NASA gets more than 25% of the gov't budget, rather than the actual 0.00001% (or whatever it really is)
 
greetings @karim
 
@Kevin I'm kidding :) It is scary, that's what brave is. Do it, even though it's scary.
@karim hi
 
2:33 PM
@RobertGrant except - no one actually knows where it was spent to achieve "the target" :)
 
someone know a good documentation generator?
 
@JonClements some people's jobs are ridiculously easy, let's be honest
 
great position to be in if you can't remember where you spent £1bill
 
Sphinx.
 
@RobertGrant "Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?" "That is the only time a man can be brave." is probably my favorite line from Game of Thrones
 
2:35 PM
@JonClements I think it means you do know, and it's on marked-up products from shell companies you indirectly own
 
Narrowly edging out "What do we say to the God of Death?"
 
@Kevin a classic sentiment
The second one, not so classic, but a cool line
 
And in third place is "Hodor hodor hodor". Not a dry eye in the audience that day, I say to you.
 
We are Groot
 
umm... is the UK the 4th largest economy in the world - news articles and wiki seem to disagree
 
2:38 PM
(Thus improbably displaying a knowledge of other pronouns and one of the most irregular English verb declensions.)
Surely China, US, Russia, India?
 
Primarily unclear, but also broad
If a question has only a version-specific Python tag, is it alright to add to it? I'd like to give this guy more visibility ;-)
 
I do it all the time to help the closing process.
 
Ok, I went for it
@RobertGrant Could be that the whole movie is translated from Standard Galactic or whatever, which may have much more logical rules than English.
Hmm, what's more unlikely, that Groot can master English, or that Chris Pratt can master Alienese?
 
Chris Soon-To-Be-Indiana-Jones Pratt.
This is a really really bad question !! — Bhanu Kaushik 47 secs ago
Don't pull punches now...
 
Comments that only say that a post is bad, are themselves bad.
Be constructive! B! E! Constructive!
 
2:46 PM
Hi, need help, i would like to change this list to [(u'LU', u'JES', u'388074', [[u'AL', u'022011', u'700MO', u'7962', u'ADUsed']]),(u'ak', u'nk', u'0927675', [[u'abn', u'04172012', u'MIK', u'896391', u'Autofic'], [u'abn', u'04142012', u'ORANGE PARK', u'18170', u'ADealers, New']])]
 
(my comment indicating that comments should be constructive, causes the comment to become constructive, thus ending the bad comment chain)
 
to this form [(u'LU', u'JES', u'388074', 'AL', u'022011', u'700MO', u'7962', u'ADUsed')
('ak', u'nk', u'0927675',u'abn', u'04172012', u'MIK', u'896391', u'Autofic'),
(u'ak', u'nk', u'0927675',u'abn', u'04142012', u'ORANGE PARK', u'18170', u'ADealers, New')]
any help really appreciate
 
@Kevin Yes - absolutely :) - unless it's that naff it should just be ignored completely :)
 
Hmm, anyone got a recursive descent flatten recipe lying around? Probably would be useful to sush
[flatten(x) for x in mylist] would do it
 
@Kevin heaven forbid they may be one on sopython.com? :p
 
2:51 PM
Oops, calling flatten on the elements of that list won't work because there are only two top-level elements and the expected output has three
So you'd need some way to distinguish whether a top level element should remain as one element or decompose into two elements, which probably requires domain-specific logic that we don't have the context to determine
Or maybe... I'll try something out
 
>>> def gen(lst):
... for tup in lst:
... for sub_lst in tup[3]:
... yield tuple(list(tup)[:3] + sub_lst)
...
>>> list(gen(LST))
[(u'LU', u'JES', u'388074', u'AL', u'022011', u'700MO', u'7962', u'ADUsed'), (u'ak', u'nk', u'0927675', u'abn', u'04172012', u'MIK', u'896391', u'Autofic'), (u'ak', u'nk', u'0927675', u'abn', u'04142012', u'ORANGE PARK', u'18170', u'ADealers, New')]
no indentation in chat?
 
Not unless each line has four spaces in front
 
well it's all nested in the generator
 
yield tuple(list(tup)[:3] + sub_lst)
TypeError: can only concatenate list (not "unicode") to list
getting above error
 
I flagged this question for moderator attention; the bonus prevents me from voting to close it outright.
 
2:57 PM
@sush that's odd.. is everything in the format (member, member, member, [list of lists])?
 
Reut beat me to the basic idea, but my attempt was:
my_list = [
    (u'LU', u'JES', u'388074', [
        [u'AL', u'022011', u'700MO', u'7962', u'ADUsed']
    ]),
    (u'ak', u'nk', u'0927675', [
        [u'abn', u'04172012', u'MIK', u'896391', u'Autofic'],
        [u'abn', u'04142012', u'ORANGE PARK', u'18170', u'ADealers, New']
    ])]
my_list = [tuple(item[:3]) + tuple(sub_item) for item in my_list for sub_item in item[3]]
print my_list
#result:
[
    (u'LU', u'JES', u'388074', u'AL', u'022011', u'700MO', u'7962', u'ADUsed'),
    (u'ak', u'nk', u'0927675', u'abn', u'04172012', u'MIK', u'896391', u'Autofic'),
 
yours is more generic I guesss
or wait, it's not :)
 
I don't think I need that first tuple call, looking at it again
 
tuple all teh members!!!
 
@ReutSharabani Yeah, it's the same as yours except I have two fors on one line
 
2:59 PM
the double-for-in-list-comprehension always confuses me :D
 
I suspect it's going to give the same TypeError that you got, if sush is running it on input that he hasn't shown us
Probably there's a different form of data where the fourth element is a list containing a unicode string instead of further lists
 
I'm trying to remove the first element from a global variable, but for some weird reason, I get an error about an unexpected indent. Any tips where I went wrong?
fam_size = [[0,1,2,3,4], [5,6,7,8,9]]
fam_size

def doThing():
    global fam_size
    fam_size_local = sum(fam_size, [])
    for i in range(5):
        fam_size_local.pop(0)

doThing() # expect half of the entries to be removed
fam_size
doThing() # remove the second half, empty fam_size
 
maybe you have a hidden \t
:%s/\t/ /g
ugh, that's four spaces there...
 
Yeah, try running your code with the indentation-checking option on. What was it? python -tt myscript.py? Something like that.
 
the easy way to be sure is delete the whitespace infront of your pop call and replace it with spaces
if you're using spaces.
YOU ARE USING SPACES, ARE YOU?
 
3:01 PM
I'll rewrite it and see what happens.
 
@Kevin thanks kevin it works
 
@ReutSharabani I'm working in PyCharm and hitting tab to indent code, but if I go back, it inserts spaces.
 
Glad to hear it :-)
 
pycharm should automagically replace tab with four spaces by default
 
Rbrb :)
 
3:03 PM
did you inherit this script from someone / wrote it elsewhere first?
pycharm actually warns about tabs, so that's not the problem I guess
 
@RomanLuštrik Your code is officially "works on my machine" certified
 
@ReutSharabani I wrote it myself.
 
Well, try the option of cleaning .pyc files
I never had to use it in pycharm but why not click it
 
I should say that I'm running the code each line at a time using alt+shit+e in the PyCharm Python console. It works if I invoke it through the command line using python file.py. Hum.
 
alt+shit+e :D
 
3:07 PM
Maybe it has to do with the weird quality of REPLs where you must have an empty line between the end of a function and any code following it
I see your code does have a blank line, but if you're doing something like highlighting each line individually and selecting "evaluate", maybe you're skipping over the line
 
I thought that too, but it reports the indentation error the moment I run the second line.
I sourced the file and it works now. Thanks.
 
gotta run for a bit, rbrb for mo'/2
 
We don't have enough information to definitively diagnose your problem. Do print PlayerLevel on the line before PlayerLevel = PlayerLevel[1:-2:] and tell us what it says. — Kevin 5 mins ago
I wonder if it's presumptuous of me to use "we" here. Like I really speak for the whole community
We are not amused... by your insufficiently detailed problem description
 
3:25 PM
Damn you email for not letting me send .exes
 
Good question, sounds like a challenge. Wait 45 seconds for Martijn Pieters to post an answer off the top of his head... — Tim Pietzcker 1 min ago
 
New javascript grievance: a%b does not lie in the range of [0,b) when a is negative
 
re-cbg
 
"A Russian mother of seven has been accused of treason and faces up to 20 years in jail after she called the Ukrainian embassy with information about possible Russian troop movements." Niiice.
 
user559633
3:39 PM
@vaultah I don't know, that's a kind of serious thing to do.
 
user559633
Also, mother of seven.. Going to guess she doesn't live near a city
 
That's kind of ridiculous and disgusting anyway
 
The English article seems rather biased against Russia there. They said "a group of men in black uniforms burst into an apartment" when they could have just said, "she was arrested"
 
Well, this is an exact translation of "в квартиру ворвались люди в черном камуфляже" (from Russian article)
 
They're trying to evoke this imagery of jack-booted thugs, but it's hypocritical because it's not as if raids are an action exclusive to Russia.
 
user559633
3:47 PM
Is kommersant controlled by the government as well?
 
If it is, then that rather ruins my "kommersant is anti-government" theory
 
DSM
Morning cabbage for all!
 
I'm pretty curious as to what the information the woman spilled. It would be wild if she was just chatting with an old friend over the phone and said something innocuous like, "yeah, I couldn't get to work by my usual route today, there was some kind of military exercise happening on 3rd Avenue"
Oops, you revealed that the army was on 3rd Avenue, that's treason right there
 
@tristan don't know, but I'd say it's mostly neutral
 
This is, of course, 100% speculation
 
user559633
3:50 PM
Yes, if she was chatting with an old friend at the ukrainian embassy, sure
 
Unironically yes, I see nothing totally implausible about this scenario.
 
DSM
"The Ukrainian Embassy" sounds like the nickname for a gastropub whose owners are from Україна.
 
4:37 PM
For some reason my custom SO link has stopped working D: can someone go to stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/… and see if it works?
For me it has 0 Questions
 
479,637 questions tagged
 
D:
 
I, too, occasionally see zero results for my own python-math-algorithms custom page. It usually goes back to working after five to ten minutes.
 
It usually works after I refresh the page
 
Yeah it's working now, seems to have only started occurring recently though.
 
4:40 PM
Yeah
 
My computer is also so slow that when I try to close questions the browser times out and it says "You can only open the close window once every X seconds"
 
It's been happening to me for a couple months at least. I wonder if it's a client-side issue?
 
Many a bad question has been saved by my slow computer.
 
Next time it happens, I'll twiddle my firewall and see if it persists
 
DSM
4:52 PM
Because everyone's no doubt curious: the new Java hire has already sorted out a bunch of maven issues involving the swig interface to my C++ code which drove me crazy. So far, so good! (I also installed Anaconda to try to hook him on the interface using IPython.. we'll see if it takes.)
 
You should write a paper. "On the common Java developer." Would be an anthropological hit.
 
DSM
With subtitle of "Challenges and Treatments". :-)
 
You could make so many "language" puns.
"The common Java developer seems unable to use a civilised language."
 

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