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1:00 PM
@JonClements :)
 
And now I'm going to quickly burn through my quota of SE requests cos Martijn answers so many bloody questions!
 
Does chainmap transparently update the original map if you change one of its values?
 
Looks like I'm beaten, but here's a thing
def un_nest(d):
    ret = {}
    for key, value in d.iteritems():
        if isinstance(value, dict):
            ret.update(un_nest(value))
        else:
            ret[key] = value
    return ret

d = {1:2, 3:4, 5: {6: 7, 8:9}}
print un_nest(d)
#result: `{1: 2, 3: 4, 6: 7, 8: 9}`
 
@Kevin that's how I'd have answered as well, if I knew Python well enough. That's how my brain would've approached it :)
 
Umm.... the British Museum is going to build a copy of itself using Minecraft apparently
 
1:04 PM
@RobertGrant
from collections import ChainMap

d = {}
ChainMap(d)[1] = 2
d
#>>> {1: 2}
 
Currently on page 131 (pagesize = 100). We answer too many questions.
Not only that but I have a typo in my code which is gonna throw a NameError as soon as it finishes.
 
The Danish government's quest to get the entire country mapped on Minecraft was undertaken to help educate children. However, the project was subsequently vandalised, with portions of the landscape blown up using virtual "dynamite".
 
'too many requests from this IP, more requests available in 68273 seconds' D:
 
You are batching aren't you?
 
1:07 PM
C# grievance, #1 of ∞: I have ten classes all inheriting from Widget. All their constructors have identical behavior, but I still have to write ten constructors.
 
@JonClements yeah didn't that happen in Belgium as well?
 
@Jon probably not.
 
@Ffisegydd get an api key
 
@Veedrac I really need to have a python shell running more. Thanks
 
I think I'll use the data explorer instead, just need to work out the SQL
 
1:08 PM
Even if said constructors only consist of the one line that invokes the base class constructor, it's still a pain in the butt compared to languages that just call the parent constructor on its own
 
s/shell/reply/
 
or throttle your requests
 
s/reply/repl/
@ke
 
I had it in a while loop and while it was returning has_more was iterating the page variable. I probably should have been paying attention to backoff too.
 
@Kevin doesn't your IDE create them for you if you add a subclass?
I know it's not great, but as a practical measure
 
1:09 PM
Not that I can see
 
If anyone uses Yahoo as their SO login endpoint, is it also not working for you?
 
Hmm, this function can return a string or an integer, which was fine when I wrote it in a non-statically-typed language. Not so much now.
I wonder if C# has a StringOrMaybeInteger built in class
 
I've heard Bash lets you return strings or integers interchangably ;)
 
Strinteger?
 
The obvious answer is to return JSON
 
1:16 PM
I feel like there's a specific name for this kind of thing, where you specially declare a variable can be one of multiple unrelated types
 
Union
 
Yeah, that's it :-)
Let's see what google says... "C# doesn't natively support the C/C++ notion of unions. You can however use the StructLayout blah blah blah".
Let's... Let's just write a StringOrInteger class -_-
 
Actually, scratch JSON. Use YAML
 
log.warning("hello, world")
 
I'm afraid I don't have my console open so I can't hear you
 
1:24 PM
Today I decided python will never be mainstream: it's not sufficiently broken vs python2 for anyone to be bothered moving to it.
s/python/python3
 
It's not sufficiently broken versus Python 2?
 
What is this python23 you speak of?
 
@Veedrac no /g :)
 
s/python23/python32
 
meaning there's no critical reason to move to it. py2 does fine, so why make the effort
 
1:26 PM
Is this because they were nice enough to backport a load of python 3 code to 2.7?
 
I use Python 0 and/or Python ∞.
 
The Zeroth Python?
 
well that's more an acceptance of the fact people aren't motivated to move to p3 so—to acknowledge the real world—we'll backport the good stuff.
 
@JohnMee I disagree but don't have time to discuss it at the moment, suffice to say it'll be interesting how the Python-2-users manage in x years when it stops getting bug fixes/support/etc.
 
I'd use fortran; except that I prefer python ;-)
 
1:28 PM
I have this natural tendency towards to new libraries. I keep writing code and finding it only works on 3.4+...
 
@JohnMee I thought that was more to ease the transition - it doesn't make sense to say there weren't reasons to move, so they backported good stuff. If it's good then it's a reason to move :)
 
I agree; it will be painful when it does happen. I'm really just having a whinge because google didn't put out an official py3 lib for their api :-)
I've made the move to learn and use py3; but it's disheartening to find i'm back on the "bleeding edge" at v3.4.1!
 
@Veedrac good.
As far as I understand it, C# manage progress well: they have breaking changes, but they just ship all the old versions as well
 
cheers @veedrac
 
Have people seen air.mozilla.org/language-composition? This guy got PHP and PyPy to run in the same file. I keep thinking it could be used to run PyPy and PyPy3 in the same file.
Thus solving the "I need to update the whole code base at once" problem.
Also Prolog and PyPy in the same file. PyPy doing GUI and Prolog doing... Prolog stuff.
 
1:39 PM
I'd like to ask "why" but I think I know the answer.
 
Ooo... if I can get +3 on the all time ranking... I can get to #666 :)
muhahahahha muhahahahha....!
 
how many dumb answers will you have to give to get downvoted enough to stay there? The devil works in mysterious ways.
 
so... has anyone here used heroku build packs? I can't quite figure out how to make it work
 
@Veedrac I thought things like Six solved some stuff at least?
@corvid as in a custom 3rd party buildpack?
@Veedrac and 2.7 as well, of course
 
@RobertGrant I think that is what I am going to need. I am using flask and bower. So I basically want it to do: bower install and gunicorn heroku:apprun or whatever
 
1:49 PM
Six and similar (I prefer future) give you the option to make a code-base that runs on both versions, but what if you have something that hasn't been ported? What if you want to write in 3.5+ and not worry about testing in terrible legacy versions?
 
Hm yeah it depends what bower install does, I think
 
bower just installs front end dependencies, like npm does
 
Oh okay, yeah
 
so there's a bower.json with dependencies: ['angular', 'bootstrap'] etc, and bower install installs those dependencies
 
You can run command line code in heroku, but I'm not sure if it'll keep the bits of the filesystem you need when it restarts a dyno
 
1:51 PM
nah, that didn't work. Said it did not have bower at all to begin with, or npm.
 
sorta. I just can't find one for flask with npm, so I think a custom one is necessary
 
Yeah, they mention a custom one as well
 
I think there is a "buildpack-multi" I need to use, but it is not behaving as his README.md implies it should
 
2:01 PM
@Swordy JPEG much?
 
png wasn't available :)
 
the former is of a better quality (or res??)
 
There is some quote about performance testing I can't quite recall. It goes something like "People who test for performance have an innate advantage against people too smart to need to"

Anyone remember what it actually is?
 
@Swordy Yes. I made that with a site (see the image's bottom right) made to help parody large amounts of compression artifacts.
 
2:05 PM
@JonClements woof
 
awkward , some weird scientist carried out an experiment on a cat and finally it woofs..
@Veedrac i'll check that out.
i see @Veedrac , does jpeg imply views??
 
@corvid Heroku is awesome, but it still has a lot of little difficulties
Like lots of things, if they invested 3x as much on R and D and UX (dev experience?) then I wouldn't recommend anything else
 
@RobertGrant all in all, it's pretty good. The documentation is very good for the common use cases. Btw, I think I kind of figured it out
 
@corvid if you're behind a proxy it's harder, as it needs a million different ports open for different things
I think whoever makes it as easy to use through a firewall and on Windows will win
Because then corporates can join in
(And through an authenticating proxy as well)
 
@Swordy If by "views" you mean "people will look at you strangely", then yes.
 
2:21 PM
I suppose you will have the view that representing pictures with few/no totally uniform areas using a small amount of disk space is a good idea
 
Well this is a little unusual. It seems to have actually created the dependencies, but it is searching for them in the wrong place. Why would {{ url_for('static', filename='(filename here)') }} not work on production?
 
@corvid does it work in foreman?
 
yeah it does, but the dependencies are already existing on my local environment
here is the app on heroku, though corvid.herokuapp.com
 
While it loads: one nice thing about Heroku is https works with the herokuapp.com domain
So you can front with CloudFlare or whatever, use the SSL for your actual domain name and connect in the back also via SSL to heroku
@corvid yeah I've seen slicker css :)
Can you delete/move the static resources on your local machine so it looks like that, then run collectstatic, then see what it looks like on your local again?
Because that's what Heroku should be doing (in theory)
 
cbg @Jerry
 
2:36 PM
heya
 
@BadgerGirl sorry... was afk... woof right back at ya :)
 
I'm finally going to Germany :) Got my visa today
 
@RobertGrant it seems to be getting a specific error now
 
@BadgerGirl that for your uni thingy?
 
module.js:340
    throw err;
          ^
Error: Cannot find module 'bower-logger'
    at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:338:15)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:280:25)
    at Module.require (module.js:364:17)
    at require (module.js:380:17)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/tmp/build_62b9c098-0b23-4c0e-831e-e9cebaff601d/node_modules/bower/bin/bower:8:14)
    at Module._compile (module.js:456:26)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:474:10)
    at Module.load (module.js:356:32)
 
2:40 PM
Yeah :)
 
@corvid is that foreman?
 
@Badger so when you starting?
 
Classes started yesterday :p
 
On a Sunday?
 
I mean, today. Right.
 
2:47 PM
@RobertGrant nah, it's when I push
 
So Foreman works fine?
 
yeah, it will run fine on foreman
 
In that case I'm not sure, sorry. I'm a total bower and buildpack noob.
 
yeah it's a pretty weird use case. I set up buildpack-multi and added npm, bower, and flask. It partially works
 
:)
That could be Heroku's motto sometimes: It partially works
anyway, I can't complain - I've got a free dev server out of it
/me out
 
3:17 PM
@Badger if you're attending a time management/project planning course - you're not off to the best of starts :p
 
user559633
3:30 PM
I need a new job title.
 
user559633
Founder is boring and linkedin is a joke
 
"The Darkness That Demons Fear"
that's quite catchy
you can't have "cute yellow puppy" - that one's taken
 
user559633
jesus
 
user559633
Career Typist
 
user559633
The C3P0 of Web Development
 
3:40 PM
Personally BDFL has always been quite catchy. Something like that maybe.
 
user559633
Yes, but I'm not the BDFL.
 
Well... you don't have to be benevolent ... you can always take that part out if you want :)
 
3:54 PM
Well, dictation is just speaking. Since you type, you could be the BTFL. MTFL if malevolence is more your thing.
Heck, I've only ever seen you type. How do I know you can even speak?
 
MTFL fits nicely.
 
@Ffisegydd wow... it's even on sopython.com/salad
 
user559633
Haha jesus, that's awesome. Updated my chat description.
 
See how long it takes people to notice :)
Just try not to live up to your new title too effectively :)
 
user559633
4:11 PM
Only for trolling jerks and time vampires:)
 
16
Q: Weird Google result description

tomwildeThe thread in question: Matlab: Scatter plots with large datasets & colorbar Screenshot: Google query was "matlab plot penis".

oh my :)
 
Why would anyone google that?
 
Whew, I've been coding for four hours... I can't usually get that kind of flow at work.
Here's hoping I can re-enter after my lunch break.
 
@Kevin ignore work - finish KevinScript and the low orbit tea cannon while you're on a roll... priorities and all that
Wow... I just stumbled across en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Queen's_Nose_(TV_series) - I remember that!
 
Can't work on the LOTC until I resolve the semi-weekly crew mutiny. I'm sending up some care packages (booze) the next time they pass over the launch site. Thursday at the earliest.
 
4:24 PM
okay @Kevin... I'll leave it in your more than capable hands...
 
got a python interview next week :) Anyone got insights on being interviewed by other software engineer ? This is my first time
 
I can't tell if it's too broad, opinion based, or asking for a tutorial.
I chose opinion based on the self-answer that still asked for the "best way".
 
interested in what to expect from the people rather than technical questions
 
During the technical interview of my current job, as soon as I said the word "encapsulation" during a response, the interviewer visibly relaxed as if he was thinking "this one is already better than the other applicants"
so, I guess... Say "encapsulation" at least once
 
user559633
4:27 PM
low orbit tea cannon, @JonClements?
 
LoL @Kevin roger that
 
"My hobbies include horseback riding, hiking, 17th century french literature, and encapsulation"
 
@tristan it's far more impressive than a kettle
 
Optional: know what encapsulation actually is
 
user559633
my hobbies include programming, bike rides, and list comprehensions
 
4:28 PM
For my interview, I got asked a couple of those weird logic/math problems. I got most of them wrong. It didn't matter. I think they're more to see how you think rather than if you know how many floors you can drop two eggs from.
 
@kevin presumed that wasa requirement
 
@Kevin That's about putting things in boxes, right?
 
@davidism I wonder why they ask those questions instead of ones that actually matter in their day to day job.
 
At my last internship, I applied at a stock trading firm. After the technical interview, which was mostly prob/stat questions, they asked "do you have any questions for us?" I thought it would be funny to ask them the Monty Hall Problem. They got it wrong XD
 
Surely people have heard of it by now...
 
4:30 PM
I asked afterwards, the guys said they didn't care about the answer unless it was totally off base.
 
I guess that kind of thing doesn't happen much when you're trading stocks, but I still found it amusing :-)
 
@Kevin nice !
 
If you're doing a coding problem, don't skimp on corner cases. Remember to check for None, handle exceptions, etc.
 
user559633
@Fuchida because interviewing can be hard and most people are bad at it, it's hard to distill non-trivial work functions into something that fits into a 2 hour interview, most people don't know how to interview
 
They want to see that you know what you're doing when it comes to coding, not solving the specific question.
 
user559633
4:32 PM
oh man, next time i get a coding exercise for an interview task, i'm going to respond with "do my coding question now"
 
@tristan yep, most solutiosn are derevied after hours of interation
 
user559633
@davidism lol, sometimes.
 
@davidism thats good to know
 
If they ask you to write code and don't give you a laptop with Internet access, just walk right out. This might make you chronically unemployed, but the strong stance should contribute to better interview conditions for the next generation. Thanks in advance.
 
user559633
i got asked to show that i understood inheritance with a "45 minutes max" coding sample of "show us using OOP and playing cards, poker/uno must both be supported." when i submitted it, the jackass asked "so how can i play poker with this"
 
4:33 PM
They might ask you a broad range of topics. Don't worry if you don't know them all in depth, add detail to the ones you know and are interested in.
 
@Kevin my technical interview will be via google hangout
so that a plus over skype
 
user559633
@Kevin pydoc -p 8081
 
Research your interviewer for any embarassing misdemeanours and utilise blackmail on them...
 
It's obvious to us if you have google opened in another window off screen. The guys at my place don't care if you admit to googling, we do it all the time. Just don't overdo it.
 
user559633
related: i have a company asking me to come in to interview for the position of CTO. that should be fun.
 
4:37 PM
@tristan good luck with that one :)
 
@tristan might have to brush up on excel and power point
 
user559633
thanks :) not too worried because i don't really care if i get it. at any sufficiently sized company, upper management interviews are fluff
 
CTO is a Dark Side job. After your grim metamorphosis, you'll start mandating that IE 6 is the only permissible browser on company machines.
 
DSM
Java-flavoured cabbage, all.
 
user559633
bits please, i've walked through the fire of webdev for ie6, like having to wear shirts with collars is going to change me
 
4:40 PM
And we will feel a great disturbance, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. (by their bosses, by giving them a sharp look)
 
I can't be bothered to cook... but ordering a takeaway on a Monday seems wrong
 
user559633
@JonClements no way, that's the best day for takeaway.
 
Umm... might got for a mixed kebab starter followed by a biryani...
 
Go for it. You can do anything you want in life*.
(*some restrictions apply)
 
user559633
4:52 PM
Whoa whoa whoa, you didn't say biryani was part of the discussion. This changes everything
 
I have always said, "With enough time and money, I can do anything. But, money can be gained in time if required, so with enough time, I can do anything"
 
But once you get all the money in the world, there's nowhere to go but down.
So you've got an effective budget of a quadrillion dollars, give or take a few orders of magnitude.
 
Why would you need all the money in the world?
 
That's probably not enough to, say, build a fleet of mining spaceships that dismantle Jupiter at a molecular level so you can build a Dyson Sphere.
 
Ah, but you are forgetting the factor of time.
Given enough time, the material cost will go down
and science will catch up and allow it to be done cheaper
 
4:57 PM
Or, looking at the same effect from another direction, the amount of money in the world will increase.
 
exactly
 
I'm not entirely convinced that the Gross World Product will increase indefinitely, just because it always has done so for all of recorded history [citation needed]
 
user559633
Oof, I didn't realize that the Russian Rouble was at 10 year low against the USD
 
What if we just run out of science one day? :-(
5
 
That is possible, however highly improbable
 
5:01 PM
oops, the GWP does occasionally fall. Once in 2000-2005, another time in 1200-1250... It's a pretty upward trend the rest of the time though.
 
@Kevin science isn't needed if one's faith in The Cabbage is strong
 
print previous_argument.replace("money", "faith")
 
In fact... everyone since all they need is The Cabbage should send me all their assets as they don't really need them... I'll look after them for errr... safe keeping and err....
 
user559633
transfers student loans to the puppy
 
Berkely lists the gross world product during one million BC at 0.01. How do you even measure that? Do a census on the earning power of fossils?
 
user559633
5:04 PM
0.01 what? 0.01 WHAT
 
There was one dinosaur skeleton that was really blinged out. That brought up the average considerably.
@tristan Billions of dollars.
 
Wow... so Bill Gates could have bought the planet several times over then...
 
user559633
Ugh! Talk about missed opportunity!
 
But you have to haggle with a T-rex to make the purchase. That's the hard part.
 
user559633
Dinosaurs are bad at math
 
5:08 PM
(I'm probably getting my prehistorical time periods mixed up. But if the dominant species of one million BC was some kind of shrew-sized mammal, the joke doesn't work)
 
Cabbage!
Is there an obvious way to add a directory to my interpreter import path, so I can import libraries from it too?
 
user559633
sys.path
 
user559633
sys.path.insert(0, os.path.abspath('/home/fenikso/notpornography/python/modules'))
 
This would be for one script, am I right?
 
5:13 PM
cbg @DSM and @Fenikso
 
Can I do that globally for a specific interpreter?
Cabbage @JonClements .
 
cbg
 
cbg @ahmad
 
@Fenikso Do you mean on every start-up?
 
DSM
Cabbage!
 
5:18 PM
@Veedrac Yes.
 
I understand now that I should add it to PYTHONPATH env variable, but it does not seem to exist on my Windows.
Ah, it is as simple as creating the variable, is not it?
 
DSM
Should be.
 
What is this "Windows" thing?
 
@Veedrac a virus that ships with a lot of computers I believe...
 
user559633
5:22 PM
"Windows" is a piece of computer software written by programmer "Bill Gates" as part of his "Bill Gates's House Suite" computer program collection.
 
user559633
It's recognized as many as being "too amateur" to be used for enterprise purposes and is popularly regarded as an operating system for "hobbyists."
 
@Veedrac OK, I had a few itchy comments on that, but I guess I will pass :-P.
 
But seriously, it takes three layers of dialogue boxes to change an environment variable?
What is this madness?
 
user559633
 
user559633
@Veedrac consider this: in OSX, setting evvars on the command line does not set them for GUI applications.
 
5:29 PM
Wait? People use GUIs.... what's wrong with green text on a black background?
3
 
As long as it supports unicode I'm fine.
 
user559633
NSFW NSFW O|B-<
 
5:41 PM
@Veedrac That works even on Windows. Thanks!
 
Windows is UTF-16. That hardly counts as Unicode ;)
 
cbg()
 
DSM
Cabbage, Ffisegydd! Thanks for pinging me re: the results. I noticed you're #1 if you weigh the results by user_id. :-)
More seriously, you can use df = df.set_index("user_id") instead of the del trick.
 
Ah really? Nice, cheers.
I started using the api to get just answers (rather than total rep) but I quickly got banned from making requests for the rest of the day D:
I need to see if I can work out the SQL for it so I can use SEDE and then just save the csv file
 
6:00 PM
@tristan Is it really that bad?
 
user559633
@Veedrac is what really that bad? the question? it's both easily google-able and low content
 
Yeah, but there isn't an "easily google-able" close vote reason.
 
user559633
"can dogs be sometimes brown?"
 
Off-topic
It's a dupe though.
 
@tristan yes... but the really cute and awesome ones are yellow, missing a leg, and have enormous heads and a spindly neck
 
6:15 PM
That sounds quite ill to me
If you see a dog like that you should put it down
 
O.O
 
/me hides behind Stewie - save me from @Veedrac Stewie! I forgive you for de-BFF'ing in favour of pivot table!
 
@JonClements Oh, I wasn't talking about you. You have all three legs and a very healthy looking neck.
 
6:30 PM
cbg @Peter
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, seaborn is one beautiful package.
 
cbg(@JonClements, *all)
 
5 lines of code. Takes the people on the titanic and splits them up based on class (column), whether they survived (rows) and whether they survived (colour) and then plots a histogram and associated kde.
 
6:54 PM
cbg
nice
however I wonder if there is something wrong with the data?
how come the peaks in the ages
ah something must be worng
 
I'd imagine that mostly they'd have gotten the youth off the ship first
 
yes but, there are 3 exactly same height peaks for females not survived ...
hmhmm
dunno
odes not compute
 
There were probably only 3 females from class 1 and 6 from class 2
 
7:11 PM
This isn't all the survivors btw, only 60% (I think)
And yeah there were only 3 women from 1st class who died.
Thus the three singular peaks
 
It raises questions about what the y-axis means
What are the numbers?
 
Probability distribution
It's a normalised histogram so I believe if you sum each dist you should get 1.
 
That doesn't work though.
~0.13 * 3 << 1
 
Ah yeah sorry, it's a histogram so it's actually area I think?
So you'd need the bar widths.
 
Ah. OK.
 
7:15 PM
I hate regex.
 
As do we all
 
7:30 PM
check out my new astoundingly terrible site. corvidsite.herokuapp.com/#
 
The good news is, today I beat my average "lines of code written" by a factor of ten. The bad news is, when I run said code, it displays an empty pdf instead of the multimedia extravaganza that's supposed to appear.
This is... Disappointing.
 
"A man with a passion for astoundingly generic bootstrap sites" @corvid you never cease to inspire me.
 
now it also is using astoundingly generic angular! This site is going to be so generic
 
user559633
just helped people understand python properties, awesome awesome
 
7:39 PM
so I heard that ruby is very good and similar to python. Are the legends true?
 
user559633
very good for what? i think of ruby as a discount python with hell for an environment, with a cool enumerable type
 
"Ruby: up to 68 % as good as Python and now 73 % similar"
 
well, what's appealing about ruby to so many people?
 
When I wanted to learn a new language, I picked Python over Ruby, knowing nothing else about them, because I could look at a Python program and understand it.
 
7:41 PM
many people are stupid. There are probably less ruby programmers than there were supporters of say Hitler... oops I lost.
ruby language is for people who think times should be a method of number and it should take a block to execute, and that it is cool.
actually it does make sense to have numbers execute code n times if you think of church numerals... but...
 
I want to learn a new programming language :( but not sure what is good to learn. C++ or Rust? Seems like it'd be different
 
why oh why
 
DSM
I like Ruby myself (although I don't want to get into this again), and it fits into the same part of my brain that Python does. I don't think it's really worth learning as a new language though. Should go for something more interesting.
 
you just out of all possible languages want to study C++?
 
user559633
Why do you want to learn a different programming language? Rust and C++ are both decent languages, with C++ likely to improve your understanding of how Python and computers work and Rust likely to improve your understanding of programming language design
 
7:44 PM
because bidjoe gaemps
 
C++ does not improve anyones understanding methinks
C++ improves sales of analgesics
 
Isn't C++ still one of the most popular languages?
 
C++ is one of the most popular programming languages in the same way as heart attack is one of the most popular ways of dying
5
 
you're right, I would prefer to be eaten by a pack of rabid badgers. Which language is like that?
 
Java. php
Java is a pack of extremely verbose rabid badgers. Different thing entirely.
 
user559633
7:48 PM
Working in C helped my understanding of Python, working in C++ helped me think differently about the code I'm writing -- using fewer conditionals, increasing my use of immutables, learning to appreciate that python lets you code like you're a kid whose parents left for the night
 
DSM
Being eaten by a pack of rabid badgers makes it seem like a lot is going on at once, which makes me think of concurrency. Maybe Scala?
 
user559633
Scala is just gussied-up Java
 
Java is annoying. I am tutoring java right now. Which is to say, I am watching cartoons until everyone fails their first exams and asks me to help them get their grade up
4
 
if one wants to learn to appreciate immutables
 
@corvid learn COBOL. You'll get a well-paying job straight out of uni.
(Not kidding)
 
7:52 PM
COBOL still exists?
 
DSM
It's even OO these days.
 
It's still used in legacy systems. There's a lot of demand for it and because it's so rare it pays a lot of cabbage.
 
DSM
If I have the power to make an edit myself, why doesn't approving someone else's edit automatically make the change?
 
user559633
That's actually legitimately decent advice for a 5 year plan post uni
 
what is the most common thing employers are looking for these days anyway?
 
user559633
7:56 PM
experience
 
is there any jobs for lowly new-grad peons?
 
@DSM I dunno, But I'm annoyed 100% of the time by that
 
user559633
they're called jr positions
 
I guess you could reject the edit, and make it yourself, and take all the credit B-)
 
@corvid I heard mcdonalds is hiring
jk jk
:)
 
user559633
7:59 PM
i want to open an irish bar named mc donalds
 

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