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5:00 PM
sorry @JonClements. Cbg to you too
I need to put sounds back on here...
 
@Ffisegydd I have an island to build!!!
 
The eternal problem of web communities. How to advertise to the people we want, keeping away the people we don't want?
 
ahh gawd, how do I make a torch again?
 
stick plus coal
 
thought you could get away with charcoal or something
 
5:02 PM
If we were playing on a server with the Not Enough Items mod, you could find the recipe just by typing "torch"
Yeah, charcoal works too.
 
and I get charcoal somehow by doing what again to wood?
 
put it in a furnace
 
actually, I'm going to re-create this world
I've set my mode to creative and it's just tiny islands
 
are you just running the vanilla server?
 
everything is water
@davidism yup - suggestions otherwise are more than welcome
 
5:06 PM
You could probably run Tekkit with the server.
And Tekkit is amazing.
It's much more complicated though
 
I was pretty active on the reddit public server for about a year: nerd.nu
 
Is Tekkit the one where you can build nuclear reactors?
 
Yeah.
 
@davidism well, the server has its own user account, but I locked the account from logins
 
You can set up pipes to pipe things around etc
 
5:09 PM
Last public server I played on was a no-rules, no map-resetting server that had been running for years. The spawning area was just blasted rock for hundreds of blocks around.
 
We used to set up a room of furnaces and then pipe things automatically to a chest that sorted things and then this piped them onto their set furnaces.
 
But you have sufficient access to su/sudo whatever you need if you want to look into it
 
Then a good 5000 block radius of destroyed buildings and absolutely no trees
 
And obviously we had the requisite nuclear reactor to power everything.
 
Basically, starting for the first time is a game of "find a tree before you starve"
 
5:10 PM
Well, I was active on the gaming side, never had enough time to try to become a tech admin.
 
okay, deleted that world - let's see what turns up now
ahhhhhhhhh lots of land and trees this time
 
I don't think I could quite get away with minecraft at work, so I'll join later.
 
Same. I'll be free in ~5 hours.
 
Haven't played seriously since 1.3 I think, most of the game is probably different by now.
 
ahhhhhh not good
all the forest is burning down
 
5:20 PM
I don't pay much attention to version numbers, but it's been a while for me as well. Every time I see a post on Reddit like "check out this cool new feature coming next week!", I feel more and more like the world has moved on without me.
tripwires? fireworks? What is this sorcery?
 
this seed seems to have produced a pool of lava that's throwing out stuff that's setting trees alight
that's nice
 
It used to be generally reasonable to remember how to craft everything, but theres so much stuff now...
set spawn point over lava pit
 
That is one issue with Tekkit.
It's insanely complex
 
Only the strong survive D-:<
If you don't have seven wiki pages open at once, you're not playing with enough mods.
 
the reddit servers were "vanilla plus", they didn't add any new blocks or items
mostly just had protection, messaging, and moderation plugins
 
5:23 PM
when did red trees happen?
 
do you mean red leaves? leaves change color based on biome
 
Pretty recently I think
There have been varying shades of green since forever, but I don't recall red
 
oh... it's a very large mushroom
 
RED?! What is that madness?
 
wait for him to find mushroom cows
"When did red cows happen?"
 
5:28 PM
arghgghh
might die soon
... and a sheep just walked into the lavapit
bravo AI, bravo
@Ffisegydd some of those ribs look fantastic as well :(
 
Sheep walk into lava in Wales all the time.
You get used to it.
 
Ahh yes... Wales: it's world wide renowned for its lakes and pits of lava
@Zero cbg
 
cbg @Jon :-)
 
dinner, perhaps back later
rbrb!
 
Wait, do you guys not have a combination sheep paddock/lava pit area in every backyard? Europe is such a weird country ;-)
 
5:37 PM
Geography can be tough. Here’s a guide for Russian soldiers who keep getting lost & ‘accidentally’ entering #Ukraine http://t.co/RF3H4IXGSp
 
my doge won't eat wendys. Makes me wonder what's in wendy's food
 
@Kevin no... we keep pits of liquid nitrogen and genetically engineered goats
do you Americans never read up on European culture!?
 
"Do you Americans never read --" I'm going to stop you right there. No, we never read.
 
That'd explain a few things then
 
I don't know what you're saying because I'm not reading it, but I probably agree with you.
 
5:49 PM
I don't know what @Kevin said but he uses lots of small words so I agree with him.
3
 
I want to go to Grillstock now :(
 
Tempted to share the platter with someone someday
 
you were a mate, now you've become my tormentor :(
 
ALL FOUR MEATS – PULLED PORK, BRISKET, RIBS & CHICKEN, BURNT ENDS, HOT-DOG, BBQ BEANS, BRISKET CHILLI & CORNBREAD
 
@JonClements Yep, that looks pretty awesome :-) Also, you should both go to Buenos Aires some time ...
 
5:54 PM
@Zero I'll check the train times? :)
I can swim, but definitely not that far :)
 
Health advice: do not attempt to swim the Atlantic after eating at Grillstock.
 
Does that imply that not eating at Grillstock and then swimming across the Atlantic is fine?
 
What could possibly go wrong?
 
Results are inconclusive.
 
Sounds like a job for SCIENCE.
 
5:57 PM
@Zero well... I can only doggy paddle
 
Go fetch me 10 freshers. We'll give them each a waterproof backpack full of rations and water.
 
it might take me a rather large amount of time
 
We got fifty people to try to cross the Atlantic without eating Grillstock first, as a control group. Still waiting for them to arrive.
 
@Kevin did you check they left, and just didn't go: "that's a bloody stupid idea - I'm going home"?
 
They didn't have much choice.
 
5:57 PM
When they do, they'll fill out a short questionnaire indicating how they felt about the trip. We can use these results to determine whether non-Grillstock Atlantic traversals are a good idea.
With zero data points so far, we simply can't draw any conclusions!
 
@JonClements I imagine there was course credit attached.
 
my card's not working again
ffs
 
...
 
Oh... mea culpa... if you forget to transfer money into the account associated with the card - of course it's not going to work
 
6:17 PM
#momentofsheerpanicwhenyourcodeworksandyouimmediatelycommit
 
did it pass the test suites?
 
lol, test suites?
 
Nah, passed the integration tests. Fine tuning driver timing
Think I'm sitting at the optimal speed with minimal errors
(I say integration tests, it's me prodding it with a plastic stick and listening for various worrying noises)
 
@Ffisegydd well for sopython (the size it is and the people onboard that we have) - we probably don't need them... but I believe @davidism is thinking about how it should be done
minecraft@localhost:~$ screen
Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check.
 
No I agree that we should have test suites.
 
6:24 PM
Thank you error message - that's not exactly giving me too much to go on
Ahhh... because I su'd to the user
oh there we go
 
I have thought about it, and I know how I'll set up the tests, just not what I'll actually test.
Going to use pytest as the test runner, tox as the environment setter-upper.
I'm not very good about testing my code. :-/
 
6:41 PM
@davidism I've recently been idly toying with pytest, after getting fed up waiting for nose to support Python 3.4. Quite like it so far.
 
@JonClements yes he is
cabbage for all ;)
the rules did not change: if msg.stars < 3 and msg.date > 3*DAYS: del msg
I guess we are just more active on starring stuffs :)
 
@Peter Kevin's to blame for it :)
 
I blame @Jon because he keeps blaming me, and all the blame flying around gets everyone in a starring tizzy
 
Isn't 28th August internationally recognised as "blame Kevin" day?
 
he is just so good at saying things, I know ;)
 
6:48 PM
See Jon, you're just generating more good PR for me by bringing it up ;-)
 
@Kevin just because you write well written humorous posts... shouldn't mean any one else's inferior posts should go unstarred!
 
FWIW, I think you're all terribly clever. Maybe I get more stars because everyone can tell I'm sensitive and need the additional encouragement.
 
Nobody. Star. That.
 
It's taking remarkable self-control to not star that
 
It's starbait
 
6:52 PM
my mouse is on the star button..
 
@IntrepidBrit you may have just invented a new word there
we should put it on urbandictionary and name Kevin in the entry
 
We should, and will be another one of those urban dictionary references that nobody gets
 
UB reminds me of youtube comments some times :)
 
Urban Dictionary needs stronger peer review. Look up any name and you'll find a hundred definitions like "a wonderful strong intelligent person that gets all the ladies".
And I'm all like, [citation needed].
 
@Kevin and the other definition of Kevin would be: "a person who aims to grab as many stars as possible in the Python chatroom"?
 
6:58 PM
 
I'm just bitter as no one flags my posts :(
^^^ starbait
 
@JonClements starbaits fishing and it even has a hungarian site as well
// catchy name for a fishing equipments btw
 
7:13 PM
I am going through python tutorial and I see semicolons at places , Upon research I found out that its there if someone has to terminate multiple statements on same line.
But is there any performance difference between both or any difference for that matter ?
 
No, it should get interpreted the same whether you have statements all on one line or each on their own line.
Style wise, each on its own line is preferred.
So sayeth PEP 8, the Python Style Guide: "Compound statements (multiple statements on the same line) are generally discouraged."
 
DSM
7:38 PM
Sudden thought resulting from tilting my head: the frown :( can be thought of as the smiling face of an alien whose eyes are beneath the mouth! The world seems a happier place now, somehow.
 
Star Trek teaches us that all aliens look like us, except they're green or have interesting foreheads. Upside down face aliens are out of the question.
 
Or maybe it's a Vindaloovian emoticon?
 
Googles tracking us using that code
Hehe it was for a sneak peek ^
 
I don't like being tracked :-(
 
7:44 PM
"Google Analytics gives you insights into your website traffic and marketing effectiveness. We help you buy the right keywords, target your best markets, and engage and convert more customers."
 
I only use semicolons like that in Python if I have to assign like a dozen variables in a row
 
Ha blocked 6 trackers then they stoped tracking me
only 4 of them continuously try to track me
 
today I saw a real python
 
Speaking of a real python I need to check on my corn snake
 
8:05 PM
Is that an American euphemism?
 
Hm...?
 
Like saying: "I need to see a man about a horse"
 
No, although I was thinking of making a joke along those lines
 
Starblocking
 
@Kevin like: $ man horse
 
8:14 PM
Hey all
how's it going?
 
Slowly. .NET CF is nobody's friend
Yourself?
 
I rank my going-ness at a 78 out of 100.
 
The real question is where?
 
Oh Boy
 
8:18 PM
Trying to count my blessings today. I'm not currently on fire. I don't have ebola. Nobody wishes for my destruction with the intensity of a thousand suns.
Or if they do, their efforts have been totally ineffectual so far.
 
You are the sun god? ^
 
(hmm, Ghostbusters teaches us to always say "yes" to such questions. But Greek myths demonstrate that people who compare themselves to a god get smited pretty good. How to proceed...)
 
I've been writing a lot of Scala at work - that's been interesting.
It's an odd language, some really cool stuff in there, and some stuff that makes me want to vomit.
 
cbg @Latty
 
this is oddly actually inspiring.
 
8:21 PM
sorry all - was eating a late dinner and catching up on Dragon's Den
 
I feel tired already. It's only half nine.
 
@Jon back from Grillstock. Got the meat sweats.
 
Actually doing work is not my natural state.
I got to used to school and university where doing work was more optional. It's been a year now, still not into the rhythm.
 
@Ffisegydd I ordered in a triple half pounder burger with fries
 
Man was not meant to work. We should be spending three hours a day foraging for nuts and berries, and 13 hours doing whatever we feel like.
 
8:24 PM
@Kevin does that 13 hours involve mostly running from dinosaurs?
 
Yeah, if you eat the special berries.
 
it doesn't help I'm trying to diet as well. Having no energy and not being able to comfort eat is domoralising.
I have a stack of like 10 books to read. I think it's the first time I've ever had unread books I wanted to read in my life
 
@Lattyware diet? How much do you weigh?
 
in the past, I'd buy it, and instantly read it cover to cover
Oh, far, far too much.
I lost about 20kg in between Uni and work
but since I started work, I've only just managed to stay at an even keel.
 
Unity? ^
 
8:26 PM
I've never been able to get above 13st after 18/19
 
I started exercising in June. I've lost three pounds in as many months.
On the plus side, I'm way better at situps now.
 
@Kevin "lost three pounds"? That's a phenomenally cheap gym membership
 
I do alot of pullups
For muscle not lose weight.
 
The way I lost what I did was an intake-coutning app.
 
I'm pretty sure I've got better abs than when I started. Hard to tell with all the fat in the way.
 
8:29 PM
MyFitnessPal, scan/enter the stuff you eat, and it keeps track of your intake, all I have to do is keep below a given number of kilojoules. It really worked for me - until I started working.
 
I lost ten kilos in the first month of living at my current place, mainly from no longer sharing with a guy who really like biscuits (but exercises a lot more than me). Then lost a further 5kg, then put those 5kg back on. Now stable.
 
I work out by doing... ummm....
does typing count?
 
yeah, I'll start getting into shape once I've lost some of the weight
loosing weight and getting into shape is way more willpower than I currently posses
 
@corvid that was just brilliant
 
ah ha... I walk downstairs to grab a cup of tea and then walk back up the stairs
 
8:31 PM
How big is the teacup? That could make quite a difference ...
 
since I drink a lot of tea - that is obviously very healthy
 
I have a cupboard just for tea these days.
 
Also you're getting a slight sauna effect by standing around in the kitchen while the kettle boils ...
 
I love variety, and my sister's dutch boyfriend is keeping me in supply with cool new stuff.
 
"Cool new stuff" from a Dutchman?
 
8:32 PM
It's interesting though, they have very different tastes - milk in tea is unheard of over there.
 
:P
 
I definitely want to track my calories. My current excuse is "half the stuff I eat has no nutrition facts".
 
@Kevin "It just has a list of chemicals which have names longer than my arm, how do I even type that in!?"
 
@Zero exactly... put the kettle on the kitchen floor, lean over it (not too close though!), let the steam open my pours, then do the metrosexual thing of applying moisturisers and such
 
I don't derive a whole lot of enjoyment from eating, so I feel like I could do, "oh, I hit my calorie limit for the day, guess I'll have soy cubes with water for dinner"
And not lose out on a lot of happiness
 
8:33 PM
@Kevin: I was really impressed with MyFitnessPal, it has a really good database
Scanning stuff is easy, it has a good range of general stuff for fruit and the like
 
It's like, how many calories in a potato? Uh, that depends. How long is a rope?
 
and it even does well at resteraunts
Hell, even gets the calorie count for the popcorn at the local cinema.
 
@Kevin "How long is a rope?" - it's twice half its length... what a stupid question :)
 
specifically that chain of cinemas for the size of bag they do
 
Haha
 
8:35 PM
and digital scales are pretty cheap, which make it pretty easy to do that kind of stuff
 
DSM
Hey, Lattyware-- been a while!
 
Yeah, I'm still struggling with my work-life balence
 
Ok, I am emboldened by your recommendation. I'll try Myfitnesspal.
 
@Lattyware we can add spelling to that list? :)
 
all I can say is I find it useful
@JonClements On balance, I'd say that's true.
 
DSM
8:36 PM
Tonight's a gym night for me so I'm happy to see everyone is in such an exercisy (?) mood.
 
To be clear, "exercise" for me is 15 minutes per night, including stretching and panting heavily between reps
 
@DSM I'm laying on my bed eating Ben & Jerry's cookie ice cream... does that count as exercise?
 
I do sport every day
 
Just so no one gets an inflated admiration for me ;-)
 
(pool at lunch at works counts, right?)
 
DSM
8:37 PM
@Jon: depends on whether your head is above or below the ice cream.
I mean, if you're just pouring it into yourself, then no.
 
I went on the fitness subreddit, and the "beginner's workout" was like an hour and a half long. Its "warmup" period is twice as long as my entire routine.
 
@DSM I was going to say... it's not like I've got an 8ft tub of it that I'm using a step ladder to access...
 
DSM
I have to be an every-other-day guy ever since my metabolism decided to slow to a crawl. But with the advent of these neat devices you can listen to stuff on and plug into machines to watch stuff on, it's not so bad.
 
@DSM bah... heard rumours of those... they'll never replace the gramophone
should probably look at starting playing tennis again...
 
DSM
Racquetball! It's the sport of champions.
 
8:44 PM
Use to play at amateur county level
 
Badminton FTW.
 
@Ffisegydd I was Badminton champion at my secondary school for 3 years running
 
We didn't have official tournaments but there might have been 1-2 people who could beat me at Badminton, I was pretty good.
Used to play at uni too
 
DSM
Badminton's fun but it's too easy for good players to crush me before I've even started to move. "Wait, how did the birdie get there?"
 
Use to play volleyball at school as well... wasn't that good, but enjoyed it
 
8:46 PM
I was particularly proud of my slice. Hitting the shuttlecock in one direction but due to the angle of my racket it going in a completely different direction.
 
And field hockey - loved that
 
DSM
There's also lacrosse, although that might be more a NorthAm thing.
 
We didn't have lacrosse.
 
@DSM nope, played lacrosse at school as well
that led to a few kids having teeth knocked out and various ambulances called
 
We have lacrosse (and American Handegg) at unis though.
 
8:48 PM
Love what you did with the "handegg" there :)
Let's face it... it's just Rugby for wimps
 
It could be worse - it could be Aussie Rules ;)
 
Oh Christ yeah
Rugby League is more brutal than Union
But Aussie Rules just takes the cabbage.
 
DSM
Or for people who have learned that you can throw things forward as well as backward, but that might be a New World innovation. At least in rugby people have learned you can do something with a ball other than kick it or hit it with your head, so there's that.
 
@DSM I thought you could only pass the egg forwards so many times in American handegg before it basically becomes Union?
 
DSM
@IntrepidBrit: depends on how good you are at it. You can avoid Union entirely if you want. ;-)
 
8:54 PM
By falling over, if memory serves me correctly ;)
 
DSM
But it's time for me to go get my hair cropped so I return to my normal half-geek half-thug look. I'll have to defend the honour of the gridiron at another time.. Rhubarb to all!
 
Another glorious win over the colonials! Hip hip huzzah
 
@DSM lol - rbrb
I love this game called "fetch"
a human throws a ball, I then run after it, pick it up, and take it back thinking they've lost it
then they keep losing it and I have to keep finding it for them again
silly humans... they even have a whole in the middle of the door, and some other human most days puts stuff through it... to protect the humans, I promptly rip those to shreds
 
9:10 PM
HOME TIME
 
@Ffisegydd there's even horses in this mc world
 
I can leave the office!
yayyyyyyyy
 
@IntrepidBrit FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDOOOOOM! (done in my best Mel Gibson bad Scottish accent)
 
Close enough!
Ciao!
 
@IntrepidBrit rbrb
 
10:02 PM
hi
 
Hello
 
I have some problems with re, when I use the a compile pattern `re.compile` in a string
(
'aaa\n'
'bbb\n'
)
work fine, but if I have this string in a file the compile pattern don't work
any suggestion ?
 
Wait for someone else to answer, I am fairly new to Python ;) coming from PHP
 
Worthy of asking on SO directly?
I'm no good with regexes
 
@JuanPablo what exactly are you doing?
(good to see you again btw)
 
10:07 PM
Hi @JonClements
my problem is : when I use the regex in a string set in the code work fine, but when read the string from a file don't work
open(file_name).read()
 
So your regex is basically aab\nbbb\n ?
 
@JonClements no, is more complex
 
can you provide some examples? (maybe in a gist/dpaste if long)... 'cos I'm not sure what you're really after here (so thus, can't assist in solving it)
 
@JonClements in this gist I paste the regex
 
If only there was a website where you could post a question and quickly get a helpful answer
 
10:21 PM
@TheSoundDefense :P
 
@JuanPablo bear with me a mo - need to take a pee
 
@JonClements ;)
 
@JonClements I want to see the horses! Requesting whitelist access for me, username "magicalblender"
So when you load the regex from a file, it doesn't work. I suggest comparing the "set in code" string against the "loaded from file" string directly to see if anything is different.
print repr(string_from_code); print repr(string_from_file)
The reprs will nicely escape all weird characters like tabs and newlines, making them easier to inspect.
 
@Kevin oh... one sec
You're added to the whitelist
 
@JonClements I go home, more later I connect
 
10:36 PM
@JuanPablo k... see you around
 
10:57 PM
I'm in home XD
 
how goes it?
 
fine
@JonClements you have some suggestion about my question ?
 
Have you tried what Kevin suggested about doing print repr(...)?
 
yes
look similar
 
Umm... in your gist post, is your indentation actually meant to be like that?
 
11:00 PM
no
I copy from the code, for this the indent look ugly
 
What happens if you try
def num_regex():
    return re.escape('-?\d+\.?\d*')
 
the same problem
mmm
I'll eat anything ...
 
sorry - falling asleep
 
11:16 PM
XD
 
11:36 PM
@JuanPablo what is your problem again?
 
11:54 PM
@JonClements have you tried Wizards vs Aliens?
I only read a few lines about it -- but I'm hoping it DW mixed with HP ;)
 

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