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1:00 PM
I use the terms that "Even Microsoft doesn't support IE6 anymore, I shall not either."
 
@Gaute .. ohh ! is that so ?
 
@KyleSevenoaks yeah. mentioning Microsoft always works. :D
 
its really gonna crap
 
@ArnisL Usually gets their attention.
 
@arnis.. but some over smart people want their site for IE6 too .. and dun want to argue
:x
:x
 
1:02 PM
The reason people want to support IE6 is that others do
so IE6 doesn't die
 
IE6 is like a virus?
 
Hence it's a circle of evilness
ie. "Since you support IE6, I have to support IE6, because your users won't be forced to upgrade, and I want your users to be my users"
 
our company policy still dictates ie6
 
ouch
 
@Randolpho +100000000000
 
1:03 PM
give 'em a quarter and tell em to get a real browser
 
For a corporation it's different
For them it's a cost/effect issue
For me to build a new webapp, not so much, or rather, the equation is the opposite
 
@LasseVKarlsen god knwz why people dun want to update themselves :-/
 
For a corporation, to upgrade from IE6, they will (in many cases) have to pay a lot, and get little in return (ie. no new functionality, etc.)
 
I'm starting to hate this chat thing. I should be working now.
 
However, for end-users, for me to support IE6 it will cost a lot (for me), but not give me much of a benefit
 
1:04 PM
lol
 
I know. What I mean is, that is why people still have to design with IE6 in mind.
 
chat is a great time waste
 
@ArnisL I've heard that one before ;)
 
I rather like this chat thing. Best browser based chat I've seen yet
 
When larger corporations are still using it, what else are you going to do?
 
1:04 PM
@arnis hahahahhaa :D
 
@Sagar Exactly
 
lol @gaute
 
even IE 7 is behave like evil sometime :-/
:x
 
IE is always EVIL
 
I'm actually looking forward to 9.
 
1:07 PM
I dunno... IE8 clearly took some of the lessons of chrome to heart
Chrome is still my browser, but IE 8 and maybe 9 are now second over Firefox
 
If they can follow their own plan, and keep what IE8 had, I think it will be a good browser.
 
god knows what IE9 is going to do with web developers?
:o
 
I liked IE8.
 
I too go with Chrome
 
They are adding HTML5, which should make Apple very happy.
 
1:08 PM
How sad is that?
Firefox is now my least favorite browser
 
@Richa who cares! it has direct2d support! 0_0
 
In the course of a year and a half
 
@Randolpho I so completely agree.
 
I hate IE, every version so far.
 
I cannot stand Firefox anymore.
 
1:09 PM
@Sagar me either.
 
I hate a few MS products i.e. IE
 
@Kyle: is that an objective hate, or merely projected hate from a general Microsoft hate?
 
But FF has upper hand over IE
 
@Randolpho it's real anyway :)
 
heh
Anyone know if there's a better sound for audio notification we can set?
If I could upload my own .MP3....
 
1:10 PM
@ArnisL I hope ! it wont make me cry anymore :(
 
@Randolpho Objective: I use a few other MS products with great satisfaction, Win7 beingone of them, but IE just drives me insane.
 
@Richa so naive....
 
lol
 
@Kyle: I can understand that. As I mentioned, Chrome is still the best browser, hands down. It's just that IE 8 (and maybe 9, gonna hold off on that decision yet) has somehow magically become better IMO than Firefox.
 
@KyleSevenoaks Win7 is a breath of relief. I think (seriously) it is the best OS from Microsoft since Win95b (Yes, I really did love 95)
 
1:12 PM
Its great to know that every one here hate IE ...(Microsoft are you listening us)
 
@Sagar, @Kyle: true dat
 
@Randolpho O RLY. Proof, please, at least on the IE8 point.
 
win 95 was really great for its time
 
@Randolpho Yeah, Chrome is my main browser, I only use FF for debugging website (Firebug is win).
 
First time I used Win7 I was like "where have you been all my life?"
 
1:13 PM
@Sagar I totally agree.
 
Lol @Richa I really don't hate IE
 
@Kyle: but Chrome comes with an equivalent to firebug
 
I
am also not a designer though
 
@Randolpho Near equivalent.
 
@Yi Jang: proof? I don't mind IE8. There's your proof, it's my opinion. :)
 
1:13 PM
@Randolpho yes!
 
@Kyle: true, but near enough that I can make do very well with it.
 
Its really good to know not m only suffering from IE but almost evrone :P ;D
 
@Randolpho I can do Ok with it, but Firebug is just the master of in-browser web debugging. Especially coupled with the developer tools.
 
bbyeeee... ioits time to go home... office time over
 
win7 feels bad after ubuntu. 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' and You are using cutting-edge pretty much everything once again.
 
1:15 PM
@Randolpho What, no CSS3 support at all, horrible performance, and still getting stuck at certain CSS2.1 edge cases.
 
:)
bye kyle
bye sagar
 
@Richa Bye! :)
 
bye yi
 
@Richa bye :)
 
bye arnis
 
1:16 PM
Jbb
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bye randolp
hahahahhahahahahahaha.... its going to be silent again :P isn't it kyle :P
 
hilo everyone..
 
:)
:D
 
@Richa Didn't move from office?
 
yeah now jus moving
 
1:19 PM
while going through web masters I found this: www.builditwith.me a place where devs and designers can meet their other half =)
webmasters.SE*
 
in html, how to make line break resistant whitespaces?
 
@Richa How abt the office hrs?
 
@ArnisL What?
 
@ArnisL how about the pre tag?
 
' ' I believe
 
1:20 PM
wait.. not entirely sure what you want..
 
Congrats SO on a pretty 'smooth move'
 
I got "371 317,00 €", when i resize window smaller, it turns into

"371 317,00
€"
 
Good morning all
 
oh
 
@ArnisL white-space:nowrap;
2
 
1:22 PM
Did everyone else get excited about their first 100 reputation?
 
oh yes!!
 
my heart skipped a beat on my first upvote
 
my rep jumped 50 pts in 2 weeks.. after i actually answered a few questions
now Im hideously addicted... everytime i open chrome i have to check SO for my rep!!
 
@giddy Congrats :)
 
155 so far =P
thanks =)
 
1:23 PM
:)
 
@giddy same here. I'm at 95 rep, and when i got the 'comment' privilege I thought that was pretty awesome
 
@Collin aw just checked you have 95
 
@giddy next thing you know you find your self more worried about collecting Fanatic badge then doing real life work :)
 
question for you all -- if i answered a question with a bounty, and i think it's a pretty good answer, what prevents the asker from not giving bounty rep for a good answer?
 
nowrap works fine enough. ty @Myra
 
1:25 PM
in other words, what prevents him from keeping his rep?
 
@Collin i was there 2, then an old question of mine got upvoted and yippe! 110
 
@Collin someone having a better answer, possibly
Otherwise, nothing
 
yep sagar is correct i think
 
ok just wondering, thanks.
 
np :)
 
1:26 PM
if the guy doesn't choose the answer until the specified time it is awarded to the best upvoted answer right?
 
Not sure about that, actually - but I would think so. Bounties expire after a while, so they have to be awarded.
You could ask @ Meta
 
i think i read it on the faq somewhere.
 
@giddy only if there's bounty
 
true
i can't imagine giving 50 pts away! so scary
 
hah i just got to 115 :)
 
1:28 PM
From FAQ: If you do not award your bounty within 7 days, the highest voted answer created after the bounty started with at least 2 upvotes will be awarded half the bounty amount.
 
and yay!
oh* yay!
 
In any case, you will always give up the amount of reputation specified in the bounty, so if you start a bounty, be sure to follow up and award your bounty to the best answer!
 
Didn't they change that?
If you let it time out, you get half back?
 
@collin You still have some work to do to catch up with jon skeet
 
(but nobody is awared the bounty either)
 
1:30 PM
@LasseVKarlsen Then FAQ should be updated
 
Or am I remembering wrong?
 
I wish I had started participating in SO a year ago when I joined. The initial lack of privileges does seem to be a really great way to keep content quality on the site.
 
Thanks for the info on bounties all
 
@LasseVKarlsen not sure though, been a while since i've started any bounty
 
1:30 PM
hahah! at the rate Jons doing ... he gets 3 times the rep we currently have PER WEEK!
 
I had one, but I actually awarded it.
 
@LasseVKarlsen won't be necessary, Skeet soon will hit overflow.
 
No Problem @ArnisL
 
Someone pass me a glass of wine
 
@FilipEkberg i have tea?
man im addicted to tea!!
 
1:32 PM
I have coffee, although it taste like dirt.
 
I have coffee it tasted like truth and justice
 
oh and im just finishing off some pudding!!
 
tastes*
 
@giddy, hehe I got sparkling water with a taste of pear, probably tastes better than Tea!
 
Just a step above airline coffee.
 
1:33 PM
But i'll take the pudding!
 
this is it. I'm closing chat. closing everything. it's getting too 'productive'.
 
@Collin what now?
 
bye everyone
 
My bosses are cheap. Dirty coffee is free tho. Taste like free.
 
bbye!
 
1:33 PM
@ArnisL yeah i think i need to go, too. have a Comet thing to debug. will be back later everyone have a great day
 
@ArnisL bye! have a good one!
 
so true! :'( I have an exam tomorrow!
 
this chat reminds me of the old days on IRC
 
Have a good day.
 
nice way to spend hours doing nothing
 
1:34 PM
can't .... close... window...
 
@GauteMagnussen, Old days? Man, I'm still addicted to IRC
 
I have not been in a chatroom in a decade or so.
 
lol
 
must...check...rep...1 more time....
 
This does however remind me of the old chats back in 94' 95'
 
1:35 PM
All we need now is porn bots.
 
@giddy rep addiction not good...lol
 
Haha
Why does Serverfault and Superuser have such bad view frequency..
 
true! but in a way it leads to good answers... i think..
 
I remember when IRC and ICQ were the stuff...I used to be on ICQ forever! Until AOL took it over and pushed it down the drain
 
I still know my ICQ-number in my head..
 
1:36 PM
there this one CSS/Html question (css=yuck for me)
 
havent signed on for ~5 years
 
Mine is 7 digits :) Had it since 1996
 
@giddy I'm just kidding. Sometimes, though, it just leads to answers for the heck of rep.
I had a 7 digit one. Can't remember it any more :(
 
but I bothered to write the css and figure it out for the shiny rep!
 
@MaxVT, hehe mine is 8
 
1:36 PM
I had joined in '96 too!
 
Mine's in the 5 millions :P
 
I'm waiting for someone with a 6 or 5-digit UID to come out and tell us to get off his lawn
 
It was 3- something.
 
happens all the time on Slashdot :)
 
lol
 
1:38 PM
anyhu... I'm off! cya wish me luck on my math(=scary) paper
 
Good luck.
 
@giddy good luck! its math. math is easy.
you'll do fine!
 
Math... not easy. Not for me anyway. :-D
 
Me neither.
 
Of course it would have helped if I ever did my homework in college...
I was too busy writing code.
 
1:39 PM
I like it tho. I've just never been a natural.
 
@Brad so TRUE!
its always been code over school!!
 
I love math. Especially geometry and trigonometry. I wish I had concentrated more on coding :\
 
but thanks to the powers for Math.SE!! =)
 
I learned a lot in college... very little in an actual classroom.
 
the guys there are CRAZY they jump on questions as soon as you type them in!
 
1:40 PM
lol
 
I wish I went for a CS degree and was forced to take the math.
 
Well, with the exception of my DB class, where it took until the last week of the term to get to an SQL INSERT statement. I spent the whole term in class sitting in the back, working on my latest software project.
 
Haha I did, and I was. I did like math a lot before that though.
@Brad LOL!
 
ok now im really going to leave! lol
bbye everyone!
 
Wow, I didn't know there was a Math.SE. I should go bug them about my FFT.
 
1:41 PM
Bye now.
 
eew FFT
 
Unity3D does all of my math :-P
 
@Brad you should, they are AWEseom and they reward you with upvotes if you use latex for your questions!!!
and type them nicely..
 
hahaa
 
Latex.... it's been awhile, but that isn't a bad idea
Maybe they can recommend a better Goertzel algorithm than the one I wrote.
I'm sad to say I just hacked on it until it started working. I work at a college, and nobody in the math department here could help me, surprinsingly.
 
1:43 PM
scary.. math talk.. runs away finally..
 
By @giddy
bye*
Yeah, I originally started with the FFT, but realized Goertzel was a lot faster when I only needed a few bands. Plus, it was easier to implement. I needed it for a project where I took your brainwaves and turned them into MIDI. Mainly so I could spin up the Leslies on my organ just by thinking about it. Lots of fun.
 
nice!
 
I plan on tweaking it more here soon, but I can't figure out what to do with it!
I DJ electronic dance music here and there... I am trying to integrate it and my keytar into some sort of live performance.
Maybe throw in the wii remotes and balance board for good measure... I don't know.
 
EDM? Really? :D
Where at?
not in the DFW are, per chance?
 
No, about a 15 hour drive from there.
Quad Cities, IL
Right on the border of IL and IA, a couple blocks from the Mississippi
 
1:50 PM
What kind of dance tho?
 
looks interesting, didn't get a sense of how much you can actually control the waves though
 
I play a lot of electro house, but I love DnB far far more
 
Trance? Tribal? Hardstyle? House?
Gotcha.
Wow, that thing is badass.
 
@oksayt, With practice, it is possible to gain mental control over a frequency or two
Typically I use it more for biofeedback than anything else...
It is very difficult to just think about it and control it... takes about 10 minutes of relaxation, which isn't something I can do on stage.
 
1:53 PM
@Brad I wish I had known when I was in that area. I was in IA for 4 years, looking for somewhere to go that played EDM :S
That looks really interesting.
 
and every time you move your face, the muscle firing throws it all off
But it is fun none-the-less
 
it'd be cool to hone your skillz and use it for crossfader control while scratching :)
 
Yes! That'd be awesome.
I forgot to mention, I am no professional DJ... turntablism is beyond me. I do it for fun, and use Ableton Live and an APC40 primarily.
 
I'm aprofessional Musician! I do DJing too! IT's FUN
 
turntablists are crazy..
 
1:55 PM
The crowd likes my mix though, and we all have a good time.
So I'm happy with that.
 
And on that note, out of the office and off to band practice :D 5 string bass For the win!! :D
 
As long as you can mix well
 
@KyleSevenoaks, what do you play?
Nice!
 
@KyleSevenoaks: enjoy!
 
@Brad 5 string bass and guitar! Thanks all! Byyeeee, same time tomorrow! :D
 
1:56 PM
I should probably go too... lots of work to do today.
Have a good one everyone!
 
my user id is 26
beat that
that's what i thought
 
@ShawnSimon lol what are you talking about?
 
@ShawnSimon Can't.
 
@ÓlafurWaage hello :)
 
1:59 PM
how art thou?
 
my userid on so is 26
 
You're my hero.
 
lol I am well sir, and yourself?
 
mine is 22459, page 344, 3rd column
 
2:04 PM
oh Shawn. Congrats?
lol
289812 :\ You win Shawn
sadness
 
why sad?
don't be sad
sad is bad
 
lol
 
87280 :-(
 
I just lost at the UID game
 
You all lost the game!
obligatory reference xkcd.com/391
 
2:06 PM
i lose
 
Wow! lol
Time to do some actual work. Be back later!
 
just be happy youre not writing another cms
unless you are...
 
2:42 PM
Why do you think about this feature-request : meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/68534/… ?
 
hi
geeks!
is there a FAQ on how this chat is built?
 
there's a few posts on meta
 
Is it hard to get RubyOnRails contracts these days?
can I join more than 1 room at a time?
 
@Blankman yes.
 
@richern to which question?
 
2:52 PM
hover over it (;
 
nice!
 
@YiJiang, @TimStone, any ideas on how to integrate that into the userscript?
 
@rchern Hmmm... interesting
 
@rchern What specfically?
 
But I'm not sure how to manage it without creating our own interface for it
 
2:54 PM
viewing what message an explicit reply is to
 
0
Q: bring feed information over all our chat-rooms

shingaraI use several chat room. Each has his specific feed bring by slide-down ticker overlay at the top of the room. But I see it only if I am on chat room with this feed configuration. If I switch I want to have all feed information of all chat room where I am. It's possible ? Maybe a configuration ...

 
in other news, i'm thinking about adding /history <id> that would use showNotification to show the edit history of a message
 
@rchern Can we move this conversation over to MSO? Or do you want to keep it here
 
@rchern u work for SE?
 
@Blankman No :P Look out for blue colored usernames, which indicate mods
Not all mods are SO devs though
 
2:56 PM
@rchern Oh, I have an idea for that actually, I'll work on it in a bit (or explain it in a bit if someone else wants to do it, once I'm less groggy, heh)
 
@YiJiang wherever
 
@rchern So erm... right. Anyway, I don't think there's a way to get this working without creating our own interface for it
 
We should give @rchern the title Stack Overflow Valued Sidekick #00(:0
2
 
I think we should create a room on MSO to test out the feedbot
 
hello, people!
 
3:04 PM
@YiJiang, why do we need our own interface
and what feedbot?
@balpha, oy
@balpha, i have a very important question for you.
in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 8 mins ago, by Popular Demand
Critically important question for Meta Stack Overflow: What is the plural of "thingadongdong"? Is it "thingadongdongs"? Or "thingsadongdong"? (This has been asked before, but tragically, nobody knew the answer.)
in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 10 mins ago, by Popular Demand
Critically important question for Meta Stack Overflow: What is the plural of "thingadongdong"? Is it "thingadongdongs"? Or "thingsadongdong"? (This has been asked before, but tragically, nobody knew the answer.)
 
@balpha Yes! We desperately need that answered
Once and for all, before a flame war breaks out in the MSO tavern
 
wth
i did not just say that again
 
@rchern yes you did!
 
i wasn't even in here
i was in chat feedback
 
@rchern rchernbot is malfunctioning! rchernbot is malfunctioning!
 
3:08 PM
i'm not a bot ):
 
@rchern That would be the first response I'd program into a bot...
 
but ):
 
It's clearly thingamadoodles
 
Where's the Thingamabob option?
 
hey all
 
3:13 PM
ho
 
Anyone looking to hire a .NET developer in indianapolis-area?
 
@rchern Just to be sure - we are talking about the "bringing in feeds from other rooms problem", right?
 
um, what?
 
@rchern We were discussing about a problem up there.
 
is confused
 
3:21 PM
28 mins ago, by rchern
@YiJiang, @TimStone, any ideas on how to integrate that into the userscript?
 
No, she was talking about the replies bit.
...I think.
 
@YiJiang, yes, that was in regards to my previous post about the explicit replies
 
Erm...
 
is anyone from europe
 
Erhmm... Okay, right.... erm...
is hiding in embarrassments
 
3:23 PM
I'm from England
 
@ShawnSimon nope. not a single person on the entire continent.
 
@ShawnSimon I'm from Australia but living in Germany
 
Anybody here a big user of Splunk?
 
i want to move to germany
trying to go about looking for a job in berlin
 

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