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10:00 AM
will do
 
@HasanKhan Yeah, because we all know that would work :P
 
that was a fancy way of saying hello :P
 
i wonder if mcdonalds is open now
 
There is an FAQ; it might answer the obvious questions; please read it (please, oh please)
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@HasanKhan lol......no effect....
 
10:01 AM
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Will the SO FAQ tell me if McDonalds is currently open?
 
like a zombie follower i pressed the button that told me to join
 
0
Q: Creating a custom loading screen on iPhone

Filip EkbergI'd like to create a View/Window that performs some inital loading in my application. I tried something like this: StartWindow *start = [[StartWindow alloc] initWithNibName:@"Start" bundle:nil]; self.startWindow = start; [start release]; [window addSubview:startWindow.view]; And in the view...

 
MGS
@NickCraver..hi
 
Looks messy with code in it..
 
10:01 AM
Is there any SO developer here? who built this chat module?
 
@Joren If you looked closer, you'd see that there's already been a discussion ;)
 
@HasanKhan Talk to @MarcGravell
 
(and @balpha)
 
@MarcGravell Is he in the room right now? Perhaps we should pin mod's and owner's Gravatars to the top of the list
 
10:02 AM
in C#, 2 hours ago, by Benjol
Anyone want to speculate on Eric Lipperts latest blog post?
 
hi all
 
MGS
hi..any body help me to fix issue in android map search for droid
 
i work in nyc, SO is here too right?
 
whoa... this thing is uber cool..
 
@MGS, you should ask on stackoverflow or in android
 
10:03 AM
oh Marc works for spolsky?
 
You must be kidding, SO chat now?
 
@Gabriel the office is, and some of the devs; some of us are distributed though.
 
Guys, I'm new.
 
@MarcGravell, Nice feature would be to write #roomname and make it a link so that you can re-direct people to rooms. :)
 
Doe anybody speak here Bosnian, Serbian or Croatian language
 
10:03 AM
@Benjol: Are you saying I should bother skimming the entire chat history? :P
 
i am having doubt in blackberry application development any one there to help me out
 
@FilipEkberg you can paste the room URL - that works
 
@BoltClock Shutup :P You're not new, not even close
 
@ado Merhaba
 
user235273
Any AS3 programmers here?
 
10:04 AM
@YiJiang Yeah, I'm open.
 
any blackberry programmer here
 
lol
 
@codaddict Mehraba i Vama, Will they let us to make rooms for our languages
 
Any girls here?
 
user235273
lol
 
user235273
10:05 AM
nope
 
f00
LOL
 
A/S/L?
 
@zerkms: You.
 
sorry just want to continue theirs answers )
BoltClock: don't be so rude ;-)
 
>girls
>programming
What are you on about?
 
10:05 AM
err...
 
I'm ν here
 
@bzlm LOL.....I hope it's not going to be a sex chat
 
user235273
hah
 
@BenJames is a Spy.
 
Hava someone ever used Airplay SDK ?
 
10:05 AM
(that was a Nu)
 
MGS
@Filip Ekberg,i posted the question
 
@TheEliteGentleman All chats are eventually sex chats.
 
user235273
@bzlm nope that right
 
how do you direct a chat towards someone
 
oDx
Somebody with some Qt experience: I hv downloaded a package qtiocompressor, where should i extract it so that i can use it with all the future projects?
And sorry for this silly quesion
 
10:06 AM
@bzlm So, will this eventually become a programming sex chat?
 
@Gabriel read the FAQ
 
user235273
I meant that's not right
 
Hey Everybody
 
@bzlm: TOUCH GREP UNZIP MOUNT FSCK FSCK FSCK UMOUNT
 
:P
 
10:06 AM
Is this site a custom IRC frontend?
 
@DelanAzabani: No.
 
Any people where, live in Brazil?
 
133
Q: I need this baby in a month - send me nine women!

Ed GuinessUnder what circumstances - if any - does adding programmers to a team actually speed development of an already late project?

 
@EVERYONE. READ THE FAQ
 
10:07 AM
click on the and you can chat with a person.. like a Personal IM
<------------ here
 
Hello fellow SO members!
 
it's 6 05 am and i've been working all night i'm not reading anything now :)
 
How do spolsky and Co can do so handy tools
 
@Gabriel Wrong place for you, then :P
 
@Gabriel: 17:07 here
GMT+7
 
ssg
10:07 AM
good afternoon from Istanbul! :)
 
i'm talking about this chat and SO itself
 
on thanks
 
12:07 here in sunny old Sweden! Perfect sex-chat time.
 
good afternoon.. from India .. namaste
 
perfect for hex chat
 
10:08 AM
hehe, /me knew that he asked a right question about girls
 
@BenJames, 0xw455up?
 
well the thing i was thinking is i hope it doesn't turn into a sex chat if no girls are here :)
 
southern germany here :-D
 
Gabriel: lol
 
hello from Overcast crappy Coventry.
 
10:09 AM
@Gabriel well said
 
user235273
I need to talk to some girls
 
wow it's like the the UN
 
user235273
girl programmers
 
Is "southern germany" a time where you live?
 
eastern russian here (following the geo trends)
*russia
 
10:09 AM
UK baby!
 
user235273
Planet Earth fufr
 
no, can we stop the geo trends... really - is that the best you can think to say?
4
 
user235273
dude
 
yep
 
@jase21 Wow, me too!
 
10:10 AM
@Marc Until you bring in some girls, yes it is!
 
a time? you mean a timezone? no it's a part of germany
 
its best to I can think of
 
user235273
really! nice to meet you! haha!
 
Interesting...
 
:)
 
10:10 AM
@Marc Garvell: we just discovering what this chat can do ;-)
 
It's like IRC, but with SO integration...?
 
user235273
@zer
 
The @ thing could use some simplification... but I'm guessing there's a #meta I should say that in instead.
 
Hey Friends, Its Napster between You Peoples.....
 
Kids.
 
10:11 AM
Gentlemen.
 
yo
 
any one has a good tutorial on bullet sdk for collision detection?
 
 
TTT
DxCK
:)
 
user235273
hmm
 
10:11 AM
hi
 
that guy looks cool
 
Hi :-)
 
Your friend, the AC unit?
 
user235273
yeah
 
nice chat
 
10:11 AM
Stalking AC unit is stalking
 
Yes.
 
:D
 
the best friend :-D
 
This is fun
to see the list moving up
 
10:12 AM
Does anyone want to help me with cooperative multitasking task using C#? :D
 
user235273
hmm
 
Nooo waaaay
 
user235273
in every chat system the lists moves up
 
just to be clear, this isnt the place I can complain about a surge of stupid questions from a single user?
 
10:12 AM
linux is fun
 
eh? that sounds scary...
 
d'oh! I thought system messages still had markdown :(
 
How does this work? What does this mean?
 
it might be cool to work in a some kind of programming themed feature into the chatroom since everyone is a programmer, like say, the ability to insert iframes or something silly into your message
 
10:12 AM
yes and i love it :)'
 
@JoseK Do you want us to help you downbomb him?
 
user235273
RTFM
 
Its a chat.
 
@JoseK Go to MSO for that
 
Well now I have IRC and this, I am not going to do much work today at all.
 
TTT
10:13 AM
Any ideas for small projects?
 
I have off today :)
 
does anyone use a unix-like toolchain on Windows? Such as mingw or cygwin?
 
Is this just an IRC client for a specific channel?
 
/me drinks some tea
 
Hello
 
10:13 AM
@Gabriel so you can xss the other people? :P
 
@TTT, plenty
 
@Jevgenij You are probably best off trying in the C# room, this seems to be filled with people talking garbage...
 
user235273
@TTT yeah. what lang?
 
TTT
Hmm
 
@BenJames It's Friday - what sort of work do you want to do :P
 
10:13 AM
I wonder what the backend is
 
TTT
I don't really care
C#, Ruby
 
@TTT: create a blog that will handle only 120 charapters for a record. i think it is very now
 
node.js ?
 
user235273
AS3
 
TTT
node.js is also good
 
10:13 AM
the backend of this chat?
 
the tavern is developed entirely by the SO crew?
 
yes
 
@YiJiang not only is it Friday, it's my last day at this company :D
 
wow, suitably impressed
 
really? it looks like campfire to me
 
10:13 AM
@zerkms I am going to go one further and suggest we narrow that spec to 100 characters.
 
TTT
@zerkms good idea :) Ruby on Rails?
 
hi all
 
@debu a: no, and b: there are lots of rooms etc (not just one channel)
 
 
user235273
erlang
 
10:14 AM
@bzlm no, i think he's just newly discovered SO and is out there compiling his own version of Java for dummies
 
@Ben James: u seem happy
 
I have only one question - Why?
 
It will save us what, 16% bandwidth costs?
 
@Krisk: it is too modern ;-)
 
@DxCK Really milking that image paste, aren't you!
 
10:14 AM
@DxCK: Hebrew?!
 
Image paste?
 
@AmarRavikumar: Why not?
 
user235273
Its twitter hangover
 
TTT
Aviad, Israeli?
 
@AviadBenDov It's OK, they're allowed here
 
10:14 AM
yes hebrew :)
 
@Marc huh?
 
@TTT: It seems like a lot are...!
 
Hello World
 
TTT
Yeah:) Ma kore?
 
Is any cocos2d developer here??
 
user235273
10:15 AM
@TTT hey?
 
hi
 
 
TTT
@jase21 Hi :)
 
keke
 
When thier is stoy about twitter, DO I need Auth when I making application for posting my own posts
 
10:15 AM
@kriisc
 
TTT
LOL Steam!!!
 
hmm
 
TTT
Who plays TF2?
 
@adopilot yes
 
@TTT sappin' ur sentry
 
10:15 AM
@TTT: Bseder. Interesting chat - wonder how it will help anything though. :-)
 
@TTT In case of Node.js what about some multiplayer in Browser thing would be a nice project I guess
 
@TTT What is TF2?
 
TTT
@Ben James haha :)
 
@BenJames sorry - misclicked; fixed
 
10:16 AM
@TTT: Me. I am just as new to TF2 as I am to Stack Overflow, though.
 
@TTT: I did a while back
 
TTT
Cool!
 
Yes @jeffporter ?
 
Helloo Steve McDowell !
 
@jeffporter Nice :P Got through that far already eh?
 
10:16 AM
thanks
 
@Marc Clicked? You know there's a keyboard-enabling userscript, right? :)
 
-_-
 
haven't really since the engi update though
 
it seems you can just paste an url image
 
when did this get implemented?
 
user235273
10:16 AM
hello Exilee
 
@bzlm Thanx thas so sad, I hate Uatuth methods
 
what just happened? I am so confused.
oh
 
I haven't played any TF2 for months, been on Bad Company 2 and L4D2.
 
@adopilot Why? It keeps you from having to store passwords.
 
This could go one of two ways, who thinks this will be a successful idea?
 
TTT
10:17 AM
L4D2 is also awesome
 
@JCDenton nah it is campfire IMO
 
anyone else a lefty?
 
@Kyle I give this experiment two weeks. :)
 
according to steam, ive wasted my life on fallout and civilization
 
Once a lot of people get wind of it, it'll probably be spammed to heck
 
10:17 AM
@Gabriel I am!
 
lol
 
The 20 reputation cap probably needs to be like 500
 
TTT
Would you use something like WP that handles 120 characters?
 
user235273
Its boring
 
@bzlm I wll love to try make tweets from databse
 
10:18 AM
@bzlm Chat has already existed for months. It's just that you guys haven't been paying attention
 
@adopilot Do it!
 
@bzlm, I would agree with that. Seems like it either will turn into a commonplace for very quick short answers, or a thirving cimmunity of asl and lol.
 
cool, do you mouse lefty like me/
 
@bzlm but they need to pass trought human reading
 
@YiJiang I know. Lighten up! :)
 
10:18 AM
@YiJiang They're just not cool enough.
 
@Kyle Well, this is the Tavern...
 
@Krisc Not too bad a life then :P
 
What is the IRC server? :D
 
user235273
freenode ;)
 
@Krisc: s/the/an/
 
10:19 AM
grammar nazi detected
:-P
 
@BoltClock You guys are so uncool I wonder why your hips don't fall off
 
A chat room...this takes me back.
 
Als
Tgis is interesting
 
user235273
Are all girls dead?
 
TTT
@YiJiang Chat isn't new?
 
user235273
10:19 AM
Why no one is here?
 
Hi
 
@YiJiang Hips falling off?
 
@jase21 What did you call us?
 
:o
 
@balm Yes.. the Tavern. So there should be other permanent rooms such as HTML and CSS or ASPX, so yoy can just jump in and ask something quick like: "In CSS, the shorthand for border is top right bottom left, correct?"
 
10:20 AM
@TTT: Chat has been around since prehistory.
 
:19500
 
i'm here i'm apparently hypnotized by a stream of multinational musings
 
@Kyle There are!
 
TTT
Any ideas for projects?
 
user235273
@bzlm What? You a girl?
 
10:20 AM
o hai BoltClock
 
balm great!
 
@AviadBenDov Unhip, geddit? Har har har... ... ... never mind
 
@KyleSevenoaks so - go create them..
 
@jase21 Why?
 
@bzlm Great!
 
10:20 AM
@Kyle wow, i'd dig a asp.net room
 
@TTT a real time version of reddit would be nice
 
user235273
nothing
 
@TTT: Yes, please make the Repair Node a reality.
 
hey
 
@YiJiang Heh. Err.. I see. :-P
 
user235273
10:21 AM
@bzlm I didn't call anyone anything
 
TTT
@BoltClock In TF2? lol
 
@YiJiang lol wut
 
@AviadBenDov hello
 
@TTT Yes. Please. I want that thing.
 
TTT
@BoltClock I guess it's possible through sourcemod XD
 
10:21 AM
what's this place for
 
10 messages moved to Sandbox
 
user235273
@celalo This place is for wasting time
 
@celalo we're not sure yet :)
 
@celalo for chat
 
@celalo Mucking about
 
10:22 AM
@celalo I am also wandering
 
@MarcGravell is angry.
 
@taher Hello!
 
@BoltClock MOD RAGE!!!
 
user235273
@Marc hello Marc
 
@celalo I DONT KNOW YET
so confused
 
10:22 AM
@everyone quick responses at the least :D
 
hehe - don't make me go postal ;p
 
I thought the SO site was a distraction at work but this is going to get me fired.
 
TTT
@MarcGravell Is there any room that is not language specific?
 
@TTT This one
 
Is this new? I'm sure I've been here before but a banner said this was new.
 
TTT
10:23 AM
Yeah, except this one... Too much spam here.
 
@MarcGravell - You going postal doesn't scare me, even with air mail you probably wouldn't be here for 2 days
2
 
user235273
nope
 
that's plenty of prep time
 
@TTT well, it should have a topic - what would you have?
 
this place will be so soon the "pleas reply to my question stackover..."; bloat
 
10:23 AM
@JamieDixon Reminder: It's Friday. You're not suppose to get work done
 
@JamieDixon lol, same here
 
sooo is there 1 chat for all questions...
 
@vaitrafra i wanted to do that, now i feel bad
 
user235273
@viatrafra yeah, seems like heh
 
wow
 
10:23 AM
speaking of, where's the "It's always Friday in Iceland" chatroom?
 
aaaaah ok I get it now...
 
TTT
@Marc I guess ideas for projects? Yes, I know, this seems too much general lol.
 
My calendar is marked 'Fallout Friday'
 
@Nicholas, as I just found out there are other rooms.
 
@NickCraver MSO Tavern is what you're looking for
 
10:24 AM
I already wasted 30 mins doing the bacon sandwich run. Must focus, concentrate like Daniel Son. :)
 
@vaitrafra yes, we'll need to help stay on top of that. You can of course guide users, or flag things for spam/mod attention
 
[status-always-friday-in-iceland]
 
@TTT a better version of the WP7 app store would be nice
 
i should actually do some work at some point...
 
user235273
What do you do on weekends
 
user235273
10:24 AM
programmers?
 
@JamieDixon I think you mean Daniel-San? :-)
 
@BoltClock - they fixed that one ;)
 
TTT
Android vs. WP7
 
@NickCraver: That's lame.
 
@BoltClock Points and laughs Haha!
 
user235273
10:24 AM
Yeah!
 
@jase21 I program. :>
 
user235273
@TTT
 
so where's "6-8 weeks" room?
 
Apparently, I've been mentioned eight times, except that my name isn't Marc.
 
@Kyle thanks...
 
10:25 AM
I wonder the back-end architecture of this chat toom
 
@AviadBenDov maybe I do...juuuuust maybe.
 
*room
 
user235273
@Krisc oh I see
 
@TTT Meh I wanted Windows Phone 7 because I wanted to use .NET to program but now they ruin everything :(
 
@jase21 play bass in a band :P
 
10:25 AM
@YiJiang: [status-fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-]
 
@silent - it's taking a while to get ready, check back in 6-8 weeks
 
if it's microsoft related again
I would kill myself
 
@MarcGravell Well, at least we finally found out what chat isn't good for - This!
 
user235273
@celalo then Android vs iPhone vs BB
 
Wez
@celalo lol so true! wondering the same
 
10:25 AM
@MarceloCantos sorry about that; if people use explicit replies, it is more accurate.
 
@celalo Don't be afraid. Bill won't bite... unless you want him too.
 
maybe python
 
TTT
@sinni800 Android API is pretty good IMO
 
/give @celalo knife
 
@TTT But it's JAVA! I've been dodging this
 
10:26 AM
it's java?
 
this chat looks rather advanced
 
can't I use mono or something?
 
user235273
@Kyle yeah, you avatar reflects that
 
TTT
/give @all mp5navy
 
no the thing is. this is a chat room
 
10:26 AM
@Krisc mondroid, for sure
 
user235273
Yeah, java is nonsenese
 
and there 1 req/sec from each client
 
@Krisc theres a propritary (you have to pay for it) Mono framework coming...
 
athe least
 
TTT
@sinni800 Java is not THAT bad after all.. And you can always use Scala.
 
10:26 AM
@jase21 oh yes, so it does :)
 
What is this, I don't even
 
So what's the deal with the unicorns? :-)
 
@TTT Java IS bad. :)
 
@MarcGravell: No worries. It's not so terribly being confused for a page-one SO dude.
 
Unicorns?
 
10:27 AM
@AviadBenDov: Unicorns.
 
(terrible)
 
Hi all.
 
user235273
yeah we agree 'Java is evil"
 
TTT
As I said, you can use Scala.
 
I thought chat rooms died in the 90s
 
user235273
10:27 AM
Well JVM is evil too
 
@AviadBenDov This chat is built with Unicorn blood. Don't you know that?
 
@TTT What's Scala anyway? I remember a program from the 90s called Scala
 
First!1111!
 
@ing0 hahaha... me too.
 
Lovely to take part in this chat for a few mins guys. Must get back to this or ASOS won't be too happy :)
 
10:27 AM
I've always wondered how unicorns got their name. They don't have a single corn cob sticking out of their head. Shouldn't it be unihorns?
 
@TTT was some kind of audio, video mixing studio program
 
@ing0 Thanks to unicorn's blood
 
@ing0 oh this is chaotic :) there is nothing to miss IRC times
 
aib
Hi, I'm a 26-year-old male looking to meet unicorns who want to chat.
 
Ahh
 
TTT
10:28 AM
LOL you guys are old.
I'm 14
 
well that explains the can-do attitude
 
This room was placed in timeout for 30 seconds; the topic of this room is "Here we have our fill of bytes and bits, and then tell of tales of other times we've had our fill of bytes and bits" - conversation should be limited to that topic.
just calling a brief interlude
to remind people; there are lots of rooms; if we all talk at once, it is chaos
 
I like that feature!
 
They have a timeout feature?
 
omg, dictatorship
 
10:29 AM
Timeout???
 
Ok, I like that feature.
 
Wez
that was cool
 
@MarcGravell there was no need for notification then, was there
 
user235273
@Marc that's too bad for sites such reputable like SO
 
@MarcGravell i will not be so present but i'll do my best to manage the thing, if it'll happens
 
10:29 AM
@Marc Just admit you wanted to test that feature.
 
@stagas Haha
 
Hi all
 
/mode +m #so-tavern
 
well, gotta split anyway.
 
Although I thought the world was ending for a second.
 
10:29 AM
see you all.
 
@MarcGravell well how am I suppose to know that there is a theme and a topic
 
cool real time problem solving
 
So how's this better than IRC?
 
nobody told me so
 
Me too, gotta do some work!
 
TTT
10:29 AM
@Matti It's Ajaxy :)
 
@celalo top right corner, silly
 
I once pointed to null, just to watch the object die.
 
@Dan how about /mode +b !*@
 
@Matti: it is not necessary to install irc client
 
it's better for SO than IRC because we're creating content for google
 
10:29 AM
@TTT Ajax is for cleaning the floors.
 
Wez
@krisc not on a friday! ;)
 
@Krisc you are silly
 
TTT
@Matti: right...
 
@zerkms What kind of self-respecting programmer doesn't already have an IRC client?
 
Reminder, there are other rooms!: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms
 
10:30 AM
@Matti Virkkunen I think it's good for people like me that don't use IRc.
 
italic
 
user235273
@Matti then what do you prefer
 
@MattiVirkkunen this one :)
 
TTT
There are TOO MANY rooms.
 
@Krisc it is just a sentence. it does not give any clue
 
10:30 AM
IRC rocks :)
 
@Matti: it is not an argument though :-)
 
@NickCraver Sigh... I don't know why we have to say that every half minute
 
This doesn't make any sense "Here we have our fill of bytes and bits, and then tell of tales of other times we've had our fill of bytes and bits"
 
Boolean attractive = Boolean.TRUE
 
Wez
10:30 AM
/me wants a cerebral implant to chat while doing other tasks
 
ssg
@Krisc released already?
 
Boolean attractive = Boolean.FILE_NOT_FOUND;
 
TTT
@Bolt
 
eww, statically typed object oriented languages...
 
@ssg what?
 
TTT
10:31 AM
@BoltClock LOL
 
attractive = 1
 
@Dan Hey, there's nothing wrong with static typing.
 
@Dan so you're into js?
 
attractive = 1/0
 
ssg
@Krisc new vegas? released?
 
user235273
10:31 AM
attractive = ∞
 
there are other rooms, but no one is in them. i joined the MVC room and there is 1 other person there
@ssg since this past tuesday for me
 
I like all languages, but that declaration was so verbose for something so simple
 
@YiJiang - clicking the banner link takes me directly into the tavern - not sure what it does for the first visit
 
user235273
@CiscoIPPhone same here!
 
10:32 AM
@ssg this is so going into ek$i
 
Static typing does hurt. My fingers are having seizures.
 
@Krisc same with me and the CSS room. There should be like a "Home menu" where you can choose which room to join.
 
ssg
@Krisc oh I must have overslept!
 
/me detected @Bana
ng
 
@BoltClock traversing namespaces hurts too
 
10:32 AM
oops )
 
Hello
 
aib
@celalo: "Yaran SO chat quotelari"?
 
ssg
@celalo thanks :)
 
it feels odd that the scrollbar is on the far right
2
 
This so called SO Tavern makes me feel SO ADHD.
 
10:33 AM
@CiscoIPPhone Feels so MODERN
 
user235273
umm right
 
Why is chat.stackoverflow.com redirecting here instead of the room list?
2
 
@BoltClock ^
 
the funny thing is I have the day off, but was going to get onto SO to learn about openid in mvc, and now here I am being useless.
 
hahaha
Greate
 
10:33 AM
@YiJiang: I hate you.
 
Great*
 
TTT
@Dan that's make more sense
 
@DanGrossman it was a proposal (I won't say from who) to bring people into a chat without having to make them think. That'll be cut for SO, I expect!
 
?!?
 
@DanGrossman So you won't chat randomly in the c# room? :)
 
10:34 AM
@DanGrossman to make sure you will be unaware of the idea of there are actually topics of the chat rooms and getting lectured from moderators.
 
user235273
Here we have our fill of bytes and bits, and then tell of tales of other times we've had our fill of bytes and bits
 
in Chat feedback, 4 mins ago, by Marc Gravell
I'm going to take out the referer-redirect ;p
 
I see...
 
anyone into security as well as programming?
 
this thing has so many nice things
 
10:35 AM
maybe there should be a room for it
 
user235273
Yeah me @Dan
 
@Tony no, I program insecure
 
not so smart :p
 
:)
 
TTT
Anyone wants to write with me a complete MMORPG based on WebGL and WebSockets? :P
 
user235273
10:35 AM
@Tony me
 
I was going to make a comment about the TSA, but since these chats are indexed by Google, I'll pass
 
<suicide>especially websites! </suicide
 
user235273
@TTT no
 
Wez
@tony im into security stuff too
 
10:35 AM
nice @jase21, shall we start a new room
 
Gah, that's horrible.
 
user235273
@TTT I would instead use AS3
 
@Matti That's what your mom said
 
@Matti: where can we get hires of that?
 
user235273
@Tony ofcourse
 
10:36 AM
@MattiVirkkunen you can be sure about that
 
@Matti how do i insert pictures anyway?
 
TTT
@jase21 I hate Flash.
 
Wez
whats with the img posts?
 
@zerkms: By clicking it, of course.
 
@sinni800 click upload
 
user235273
10:36 AM
@TTT good. What's the alternative
 
@sinni800: There's an "Upload" button next to the text box... but use it sparingly!
 
oh ;-)
 
TTT
and WebGL is probably the next generation MMORPGs.
 
@celalo @Matti you have to upload them? Awwwww.
 
@MattiVirkkunen yes
 
10:37 AM
@sinni800 It also accepts URLs (makes the button name a bit misleading)
 
@TTT It sure is. they've been trying with Java and all that stuff. Some chinese developer is trying silverlight
 
@sinni800 nope you can give also a link. there is an option
 
@TTT are you serious about your porject?
 
@jase21, started a new room :)
 
@Matti @celalo Oh, I didn't check since I didnt find the upload button yet
 
TTT
10:37 AM
Pretty much. I'm thinking about this for some time.
 
You can just paste the URL of an image into th chat, don't need to use the upload button
 
@Wez new room on security is now up
 
user235273
@Tony joined
 
hey nice chat
:)
 
this chat feature is neat!
 
10:38 AM
@sinni800 it is right next to the send button which is right next to where you type
 
Take me to your leader
 
is it node.js based?
 
@celalo I don't have it! Do you need a special reputation on SO?
 
i hope its not!
 
TTT
The main advantage of WebGL is that it will work everywhere in the future. Mobile, Desktop
 
10:38 AM
@ludicco It's built with the same technology as the rest of SO
 
TTT
(vs JavaFX etc)
 
@detay well it looks like there is. what is your karma? I have around 600
 
@TTT which is the best advantage of ti
it
 
@TTT I agree with the technologies, but the whole thing is sounds scary to begin working with :D
 
@ludicco no there is seperate room for that
 
10:39 AM
@TTT I sure wonder when they ported doom to wegl
 
i think java would be a lot better if it werent such a blatant copy of C# ^_^
 
webgl*
 
@sinni800 well it looks like there is. what is your karma? I have around 600
 
SVG was supposed to bring vector graphics everywhere, every mobile and desktop, in 2001... still waiting for that.
 
TTT
Think of a mobile MMORPG on your smartphone.
 
10:39 AM
@YiJiang very nice!!!
 
@Krisc a copy made worse. I hate getters/setters. I like the properties more :)
 
user235273
@Krisc Its actually the other way
 
TTT
Works on your phone, computer, etc
 
the more the number of people chatting, the more questions for me to answer, hehe
 
@celalo karma, karma.. sec
 
10:40 AM
@celalo actually I was just playing around...first time I've got in here
very clever system
 
@celalo umm karma = reputation? i cant find karma
 
@ludicco they must make the prely button BIGGER
 
@jase21 went for the bait, tsk tsk
 
@celalo And also make it spelled corerctly
 
@celalo Or type the name yourself :)
 
10:41 AM
Yeah, to be honest, this is a 100 times more difficult to follow that IRC. Maybe I'm just not part of the Twitter generation
 
@sinni800 yes, your reputation at SO
 
39 only, since i dont get answers and answers from me dont get voted :O
My questions are too hard
 
TTT
So, anyone wants to help me with the WebGL MMORPG?
 
@sinni800 go answer some questions then :)
 
<shamelessplug> Anyone wants to test out the userscript for chat I and @rchern are building? You can install it here stackflair.com/SEChatMofications.user.js and see github.com/rchern/StackExchangeScripts for more info
 
10:43 AM
@celalo Meh!
 
I'd rather play Guild Wars 2 or FFXIV Online with the amazing better-than-life environments... than build another Farmville for the browser
 
I tried, but I kind of gave up working for it
@TTT Server-side?
 
TTT
@Dan, I'm talking about Farmville, I'm talking about something like RuneScape.
I'm not*
 
Same point, 10 years behind the times because it has to be in a browser
 
TTT
@sinni800 Yeah.
 
10:44 AM
@TTT I once worked on an MMORPG, it used C# for the engine. I was the graphics department though..
 
TTT
I guess it's going to be ALOT of work. There are no really good game engines for WebGL and WebSockets right now.
We need to write everything from scratch
 
@TTT I'll ask differently, what is the server-side consisted of?
 
you also have to wait for new versions of all the browsers to add GPU-based rendering before it's viable
and you restrict your user base to techies with those browsers, rather than the general gaming public
 
TTT
@Dan There IS GPU-based rendering, it's called WebGL.
 
@DanGrossman But the browser is the new OS! :)
 
10:46 AM
WebGL is not the same as GPU-based rendering
 
@Dan gpu-based-rendering = with canvas?
 
WebGL is just an OpenGL port to <canvas>... and no, most browsers use CPU to render <canvas>
 
but the 3d geometrical rendering will still be done on GPU no?
 
writing a game in javascript, is that some kind of torture method
 
then transferred to canvas
 
TTT
10:48 AM
@Dan WebGL context of canvas does use GPU-based rendering
On FF4.
 
so you're going to try to build runescape for firefox beta users?
 
@TTT Asking again, what system is the server side consistent of?
 
it does not sound like a well thought out plan
 
TTT
And chrome 6.
 
And IE9
 
10:49 AM
chrome 6 does not have GPU rendering at all
 
TTT
No, IE9 doesn't support WebGL.
 
you won't play a game in it
 
why not Silverlight
 
Flash
 
@BoltClock HA
 
TTT
10:49 AM
Because it's not cross platform like WebGL.
 
@BoltClock no, no flash please... Silverlight or Adobe Shockwave are gewd
 
just do what QUAKE LIVE did and build your own plugin for all the browsers, its basically a desktop game that launches from a browser
 
@BoltClock Shhhh... don't say the dirty word
 
@BoltClock if you want to have something like this
 
but Flash and Silverlight are more x-platform than webgl right now
 
10:50 AM
@YiJiang Well, somebody had to say it :P
 
TTT
Yeah, right now. But I'm talking about future technology.
 
better tools too
 
Dan, but then what's the point of it actually being in a browser? :<
 
@Chris S is Schockwave cross-platform?
 
and portable to the iphone
does shockwave exist anymore?
 
10:51 AM
It does
somebody made a really good quake-like shooter with it once
 
There is no way to make a game with modern graphics in the browser right now, so really, there's no point in @TTT trying
 
TTT
@Dan, why not?
 
hobohotel was ahead of its time
 
@Dan there is
 
habbo even
 
10:52 AM
What's the thing Steam uses? the stream the game from their server or something?
 
@Dan there's still browser plugins
 
that's what I suggested, it's not really in the browser, it just pretends it is :)
 
@Kyle it doesnt work in most of the games. while it downloads you can already start playing
 
@KyleSevenoaks It uses steam. From the undersea geysers.
 
TTT
The idea here is to use standardized web technologies.
 
10:53 AM
World of Warcraft has become a game that streams content as needed while you play, yet the install footprint is like 40GB
 
@Dan 40gb now?!
 
None of these things are standardized
you're trying to use proposals and drafts
 
@Dan i remember having an install with 6gb, but i didnt play long
 
@BoltClock Oh, really? Well that expalins a whole lot...
 
It must be getting there, a lot of people simply ran out of hard drive space after the latest patch
 
10:54 AM
@Dan what the heck is in there that makes it so big?
 
wish I knew
 
delete the pathces it downloads
 
TTT
@Dan HTML5 is also draft. So?
 
@sinni800, Dan: Perhaps it's there just so it can be filled by stuff it downloads later lol
 
TTT
10:54 AM
doesn't mean we can't start developing for this RIGHT NOW.
 
So you are not "using standardized web technologies" if you build a game in it right now
 
@BoltClock empty files?
 
@sinni800: Nah I kid.
 
@TTT could be a shot in your own neck if they change things
 
WebGL isn't even close to a standard, it's just something Mozilla invented
 
TTT
10:55 AM
No.
First of all
khronos "invented" it.
 
No, it was created by Mozilla, and the draft is managed by Khronos
 
TTT
and they create alot of standards. and the fact is that most future browsers implement this.
Anyway, it is possible to write something like WoW with WebGL right now.
 

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