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> 10q in advance
this is the most clever noise i've ever seen in a question
 
Someone please help me explain to asker that "1234".equals("1234") will always be true: stackoverflow.com/q/40209027/5647260
 
@AndrewLi Close the BS...
 
Looks like abuse to me
 
Flag'd
Ugh. Ninja'd again
 
Tell me about it.
 
afk doing homework
 
12:42 AM
@AndrewLi Freaked me out a second. Flagged it and it refreshed and was gone. No 10k on Meta SE lol
 
@Machavity sp00k'd! Funny because I first saw it on mobile and the face wasn't even there. It really scared me when I saw the face on desktop
 
12:57 AM
Someone upvoted that ^
absolutely appalling
 
I'm never quite sure the best way to answer "How do I do X" questions where the only correct answer is "Please for the love of god, do not do X".
 
@RyanBemrose cute. Why are you telling us?
 
Because a couple seconds after I hit enter, I realized the correct course of action was to just roll it back, then did so.
 
> I'm not asking for answers, just a little help please!
 
@RyanBemrose the best answer to such questions is of course "please for the love of god don't do x, do y instead" provided what the op is trying to do is possible in the first place
 
1:07 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Yes, some ppl should read their text before posting.
 
e.g the perfect answer to "how do i use mysql_* functions" would be "switch to mysqli/pdo or i'll kill you"
 
@Olaf I dupe hammered that with Operator Overloading earlier. Some idiot reopened.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Hmm, I think the dupe is pretty broad.
 
@Olaf As broad as the question is :P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ If asked in my time here, I'd CVed it, too. High reps or not.
 
@AndrewLi At least it lacks a parenthese. I'd be careful with "absolute" If not anything else, SO taught me there is nothing absolute. There is always one step beyond stupidity.
 
@Olaf That whole question is a disaster
 
@AndrewLi I don't JavaScript, so I don't judge.
 
@Olaf C's alright
At least it has less CV-worthy questions than JS
 
@AndrewLi You haven't checked C questions recently, haven't you? ;-(
 
1:19 AM
@AndrewLi has inherently more crap than any other tag (maaaayybe has more). it's the tag with the most questions on the whole site
 
@Olaf Too busy closing all the tons of crap on JS
@dorukayhan A tag with greater amount of questions doesn't mean it has higher crap rate
It all depends on cv-worthy / all, or the Li Ratio, coined on October 23, 2016
 
@AndrewLi oh, so is the worst tag in the existence, right? nearly all questions in it are duplicates of the npe canonical
 
@dorukayhan You could say that
 
Rob
@AndrewLi Am I missing something? How is it that answer invalid javascript? It works fine.
 
@Rob You're saying ($.someClass).click(function() { ... } is valid?
Invalid syntax and not the way to use jQuery
 
Rob
1:32 AM
That's not what the answer says
Ah, it was edited
Nevermind
 
A 200K+ user is trying to have a discussion with me but everything he/she says is way above my level...
help
 
@AndrewLi ?
 
@Machavity I was talking to someone about the ES5 spec - trying to comprehend their comment
 
Rolled back that SD
 
1:48 AM
@AndrewLi that is a senseless discussion now to be in with user "a" ... just abort and move on
 
@Drew I think I've understood what they are saying. It's actually a nice discussion for a change
 
oh ok. thought you were wishing to abort it
 
@Drew Might have to abort soon though :( getting in the way of my homework
 
yeah and it will hit the mod threshold count for intervention soon :P
afk
 
Many comments trigger mod intervention?
But it's a civilized, "let's work together to figure out this problem" discussion :(
 
2:05 AM
good night!
 
N8
Time for me also.
 
Am I all alone? :(
 
2:20 AM
We left you in charge.
 
@RyanBemrose Never a good idea period.
 
if you need help with your math homework never hesitate to ask :p
 
@Drew It's anything but math. Math is easy and I finish it first, but then I'm stuck all the projects
 
someday I will get back to my interactive math tutoring idea (paid subscription thing)
 
:D
 
2:29 AM
parents are basically useless to help their kids in math once they are in 8th grade on
heck maybe 4th grade on
 
My parents stopped when I was in 2nd
 
there is a cool book for girls from author Danica McKellar . Girls have a heck of a time in math in the states
 
google.com/… - which one
Math never sucked; just the way the school taught it
 
the red hot x alg exposed. It has cool content for girls
 
"Kiss my math"
Lol
Math's my favorite subject
 
2:37 AM
yeah I went on to do math in college. Fun stuff
everything else seemed silly to study
 
Science n' Math
 
yep
 
Hello!
 
3:07 AM
@Drew Parents were never taught math the way that schools teach common core now.
 
and the kids today won't be able to help their kids later. They (the parent) just tend to be useless at a certain age, say, kid age 13
 
My kid comes home with his homework and it says things like "Build a factor pyramid for the following equations"
The equation is something like 6*8, the solution to which I memorized way back in the day, but I have no clue what a "factor pyramid" is.
 
the way they teach math in elementary school imo is a bad approach. To me they just messed up more sound methodologies that are age-tested
They dummy it down to make it seem approachable and in the process pollute the brains of the upper half of the class
 
3:28 AM
hmm...suggests a product, but it seems like it's a genuine attempt to answer the question
It doesn't actually answer the question though, but it's kind of close
 
The sales pitch feels a bit too canned.
 
I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt, and flag as NAA
 
If SD has seen that product before, then I'm 80% sure it's spam.
 
I broke my fingers writing a long answer again :(
 
I have to go now; see you later!
 
3:33 AM
Bye nobody! o/
 
Delete votes are 10k, right?
 
Yep. But only for questions closed 2+ days. 20k gets you instant delete of closed with -3 and deletion of answers
 
Gotta get to 20k fast
 
I'm 5500 in two years. I'm not holding my breath for 20k any time soon.
 
waaaaaayy too broad
 
user6820627
3:42 AM
@tripleee if i can answer, i'd say yes
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent "can I do X in Y instead of Z" tends to require a yes answer, though it's often a yes but ... but the problem is that the question is so broad that there is not a single objectively correct answer as you get into details, so the only possible answer is just "yes"
if there are three ways to answer, that's fine. If there are thousands or even just hundreds of possible answers, it's too broad
 
user6820627
@tripleee that's why i dont answer it. i am not stupid enough
 
that answer yikes
 
2 upvotes?!
 
of course the delete on the Q will solve that one
 
3:56 AM
@AndrewLi I seem to be the only one who downvoted so far, what's up with that ...?
 
@tripleee Too distracted from editing an answer.
My longest one yet. I downvoted
 
@AndrewLi that's what they all say, isn't it (-:
 
if anyone has an account on stats.se there's a rude/abusive answer there which has survived for 41 minutes already, stats.stackexchange.com/a/242008/23810
 
Sad. :(
 
user6820627
4:05 AM
(removed)
 
4:17 AM
Silent night... holy night...
 
Is this some weird form of poetry? — David yesterday
 
Trolls are not calm... trolls are not bright...
 
4:35 AM
@Enzokie We kind-of have to close before we delete.
 
sure I understand :)
 
@Enzokie Also, if it's not yet -3, or sufficiently old, it's kind-of like asking for down-votes so it can be deleted.
It's both of these things now, but keep that in mind.
 
I'll remember that
 
@Enzokie just to make it more explicit, soliciting downvotes is not okay, so asking for delete votes on a question which isn't yet eligible for delete votes is also not okay, because it implies the former
 
I did not intend to ask downvotes, but it seems that is happening, so yeah I will remember that.
 
5:24 AM
I was just about to say "where are the spammers?"
 
Ask and you shall receive.
 
5:46 AM
sigh. Flag declined. Post was deleted anyway. Thanks, mods.
 
Is this a link only answer or a spam? stackoverflow.com/a/40211421/5389997
 
I'd call it NAA, but I didn't click the link.
 
@Drew helped to delete the 2nd, rest were already deleted
 
thx boss
 
Then again my last spam flag was declined and the post was deleted anyway, so I'm no longer sure what's spam.
 
5:58 AM
I clicked the link in sandbox mode, it seems relevant to the question.
 
morning
 
@tushar please provide the link as an answer so that I can accept your answer — shubham agiwal 40 mins ago
 
Morning everyone :)
 
6:13 AM
morning seth
I talked to a friend of mine over the weekend who is studying to become a nurse
according to him, pepsi light (the thing I've been drinking for a while now to cut back on sugars) is even worse then just eating sugar out of a tub
so I ditched over 100L of pepsi light into the drain over the weekend
 
o_o
How so? I mean, why is it worse?
 
Artificial sweetener in it makes your body think sugar is forthcoming, increasing insulin production
Means you get a hard sugar crash without eating sugar in the first place
 
Oh. That doesn't sound good :P
 
apocalypticly bad for diabetes and heart disease risk, super bad for diet (you get very hungry all the time due to this) and apocalypticly bad for your veins.
And you get super fatigued for a while after drinking it if you didn't also eat normal sugar or carbs then
 
That sounds nasty.
I've been drinking normal coke for a while now, I'm trying to cut it back right now (:
Switched to fruit juices & water, works pretty well thus far.
 
6:18 AM
It does
And I'll never touch that stuff again
I dont want to get diabetes type II at 30 years old due to this crap
 
30 years for that is an achievement :p Many people have it way earlier nowadays
 
I'd rather not get any at all
 
^
 
diabetes would also preclude me from donating blood monthly which I've been doing for more then 2 years now.
 
Yeah, I'd much prefer not getting it either :) Which is why I'm cutting back on consuming any sugar whatsoever.
 
6:28 AM
@JarrodRoberson delete candidates if interested 1 , 2 , 3
 
@Drew That's downvoted alot, holy hell.
 
@Drew Can you delete a Q with a 3 score accepted answer?
I'd think not
 
I'd push all my poker chips on that you can
 
we deleted a -29 PHP question with a +11 answer an hour ago
 
6:33 AM
@Drew All-in? c:
 
yep
 
Do you play Poker?
 
only here !
 
@Drew Ahaha :D
 
6:52 AM
Morning
 
@kayess Morning o/
 
morning
 
@ColdFire Morning \o
 
@Seth morning
 
@Drew there is a chance to strike on a 100 score question. ^^
 
7:00 AM
\o
 
Hiya Petter
 
@xenteros say no more I;m in
 
@Seth \o
 
@Magisch You can delete anything it just takes more votes... up to 10 votes..
There is just a problem the first few days after closed, if same day as closed it needs to be at -3 and you need 20k, but after 2 days... scoring is not important anymore...
 
hehe drew
 
7:07 AM
@xenteros Just needs some more votes
 
@Drew the consulting world is full of politics and bad decisions
just like everything else
 
@Cerbrus needs one more
 
@toskv that's why it's great
 
is SO main site down
is frequently not opening for me today
 
Not for me
o.o
 
7:15 AM
i hope that DNS attack didnt affect SO
 
@toskv consulting
 
:))
I'm flying to a client in germany today
 
Site seems ok for me
 
is this question the same roughly as his prior jillion stackoverflow.com/questions/40212213
 
Guys, when serial voting gets reversed, does it also undo the user's actual votes, or does it just revert the rep gain / loss?
In other words, does it invalidate the votes, or does it delete them?
 
7:28 AM
@Cerbrus It invalidates the votes. Although the post score won't automatically be recalculated unless you click "show detailed" votes with 1000 rep on a post. After a while it'll take effect though.
 
Undo the user
yeah Undo is the user
 
8:01 AM
Note, it appears to be good, but the code is irrelevant, and is basically asking a very broad question.
I'm pretty sure the code is to make it appear like OP has tried stuff, but the code shows pretty much the opposite...
"The following is for the attempt to describe how you get the bug, but it is not the point of this thread."
 
@Drew all 3 were closed by the time I could check them out
 
@FrankerZ Rude/abusive? No. NAA obviously
 
Could we somehow help this OP to ask/organize his Q better ? stackoverflow.com/questions/40213012/…
 
Meh, garbage posts that are clearly trollish/spam from 1 rep users I've been tempted to put into the second catetory.
 
8:16 AM
@FrankerZ I would generally agree with you, but moderators are not consistent in evaluating spam / abusive flags in this regard. I have had such flags for similar content declined, saying it was only a NAA.
 
@Shadow On a 1 rep user?
 
Szeva @Shadow \o
 
yep, even on 1 rep user
I have even saw a meta post on it, where the mods were clearly divided
hali @kayess
 
Hey @tripleee
 
8:21 AM
We got another pretty damn elaborate spam email, even more specific then the last. Its in english this time though, which is unusual. I uploaded the file in it to virustotal, and it seems like it's already been analysed a couple of days ago.
 
Undo says it's abusive, the other 2 mods say it is not
 
Its a .ace file
 
so, stick with NAA or VLQ to be on the safe side of things
 
Or if I like to live on the wildside, rude/abusive?
I don't mind declined flags. I love me some declined flags :P
 
BTW am I allowed to such ?
@PilgrimViis may I invite you to the SOCVR chat room where folks could probably give you hints how to edit or restructure your question. Feel free to express your current situation about this question to them. — kayess 3 mins ago
 
8:28 AM
I think you should just post what's wrong with his question in your comment
Use a few if it goes over char limit
 
@Shadow the other two? Have there been lay offs since I was away? ;-)
 
Hiya
 
@JonClements the other two moderators - is this better?
 
@Magisch What's that extension o.ô
@Shadow I think "two other moderators" would be more suited :D
 
@Seth no clue, but the email is well made-but-shady-af and 20 antivirus scanners think its a virus so I'll assume its malware
 
8:37 AM
.ace extension is a compression format it seems
 
@Magisch Your company seems to be a target for multiple shady persons, eh? :o
@ivarni Ah, thanks :) Makes sense.
 
So here's my reasoning @Shadow: That user was destroyed, so it leads me to flag as a high priority flag, and rude/abusive hits that case. I'm going to not play it safe in the future, as I believe it's noise, and needs to be removed from the site
 
Should stop a few AV scanners from looking too close.
 
I hope that the other mods can go along with Undo's philosophy on this
 
The whole tag seems off topic, hardly any questions in there that actually have anything to do with programming
 
8:42 AM
@FrankerZ I agree that it is a noise and that it has to be removed. I just pointed out what the moderators think about similar posts.
 
@Magisch oh, great, do you have the sha256?
 
^^ -5 score, and definitely Too broad. OP shows no effort, even though it looks like it. The OP has long practice in avoiding CVs because only those who are familiar with the language recognize it as bad.
 
@tripleee - Collector of virus-reports :p
Just out of curiousity, what do you use them for?
 
8:45 AM
@tripleee If you want, I can mail you the source code of the email again
 
@Seth I'm basically the middleman here, just relaying to someone who works on this
@Magisch thanks, I'd appreciate that
 
@tripleee Ahh, nice! :)
 
view source + copy/paste in Thunderbird might work better than whatever you did the last time
@Magisch could you use 4pxl9l+eie8ise8orjb4@sharklasers.com
 
@tripleee Dafuq?
 
@tripleee Same spiel as last time, you can publish the mail, but no PII in it, please.
 
8:48 AM
I'll assume that that is some sort of anonymized email, eh?
@Magisch What's PII? :s ...
 
@Seth Personally Identifiable Information would be my guess
 
@tripleee Ahh I see :)
 
@tripleee Sent
 
@tripleee Good to know :] If that'd have been your actual email I'd have thought that you lost your mind :p 1. posting PII, 2. using an email like that.
 
Triplee probably knows my email name and company I work for by now
 
8:51 AM
@Magisch and received
thanks!
 
I trust him not to publish that though :p
 
@Magisch You know how it goes.. as soon as one knows, everybody knows :)
 
@kayess :33661592 My question was already answered. So I don't know should I spent you guys time and bother you with it... Or anyway I need to change my question in proper way?
 
@PilgrimViis Okay, glad you have got your answer! I was just trying to give you some help that open-ended questions usually get closed as too broad on SO, that's why I wrote in comment that you better split it up to multiple focused questions
 
@kayess I think get your point and I'll try not to ask in this manner again, thanks for your help.
 
9:06 AM
@PilgrimViis You're welcome : - )
 
Hiya
 
@Tunaki \o
 
hiya
 
Also, what do you think of that answer? I wanted to lean towards NAA, but there is some resemblance of an answer there.
 
9:09 AM
@Yam nope
 
@Tunaki Why did that just popup now?
It was edited 12 hours ago
 
because it was only moved to the graveyard now
 
Doesnt seem like spam tbh.
 
@Tunaki Would you classify this answer as VLQ/NAA/Should be deleted? (Link to answer: stackoverflow.com/a/40214391/4875631)
 
Yeah
 
9:16 AM
Which one of those, and why?
 
I flagged NAA, as it's a case of "Your answer is in another castle"
 
Idk. VLQ maybe, it makes no difference really.
 
I want to delete the question but I cant. please delete your answer. — Erfan Khalaji 1 min ago
How do I react to that?
 
dont delete it
 
It's your answer, you decide if it stays
 
9:23 AM
It has one upvote on it, but I'm not very attached to 10 internet points
 
there are 2 answers
unless the other also delete
question cant be deleted right?
 
@Magisch I replied. Don't stress, and don't remove your answer
 
Not by OP himself
 
yes then what franker suggested is right
 
It's Franker
 
9:29 AM
frankly I think that correction was mildly unnecessary.
 
I disagree. I'm not Frank. I don't call you Ma @Magisch
 
well i dont think that is his real name anyway
franker you said and i edited so i guess its done
 
@FrankerZ You can call me what ever you want, Magisch is an alias anyways :p
 
ok Ma
 
9:37 AM
this smells like fried spam
 
@Tunaki I'm going with tpu- and spam flag, that website gives my browser heartburn
 
Yup, user was destroyed
 
@Tunaki Yummmmm :)
 
@Magisch That actually looks pretty good
 
9:50 AM
Well then
what an angry unpleasant fellow
 
I missed it :(
 
@Seth Fortunately metasmoke keeps a record
 
@Magisch member for 18 months, wow
 
@Magisch Oh wow.
@Magisch A quick question for you (cannot find a source for that somehow): If I call in sick on a "Berufsschultag", what working hours do I get?
The full working hours for that day, right?
 
Well
if you're sick a full day it counts as a full day
 
9:58 AM
Speaking of normal circumstances :D
 
the employer has the right though to even retroactively require a doctor's note
 
Ah, aight, good. Thanks alot :3
 
so get one
 
means pay money to doc to give you one
 
and the school has the right to retroactively require a doctor's note signed by your company
 
9:59 AM
well at least in here it goes like that
 
@kayess doctors visits are free here
 
@Magisch I think he meant it like "bribe" the doc c:
Luckily our doc is cool regarding that stuff.
 
exactly :p
Why? He accepts bitcoin ? :p
 
Nuuuuh
He has no problem with retroactively signing a note.
 
are you planning on doing an extended weekend @Seth?
 
10:01 AM
@Magisch Nope ;D
My hour count for this month is slightly off
Slightly off = 2.4h missing
Which is rather unpleasant.
 
10:36 AM
@Seth How'd you manage that?
Back when I was at the central bank, they'd count time you spent in the company fitness center as time worked, so we'd all stay 2 hrs late per day playing a sports game and then take every friday off
 
@Magisch I missed 2 days of school due to being sick. The time spent in school amounts to ~7 hours, the time I "have" to work each day is ~8:30 hours
And randomly I didnt get the additional ~1:30 per day.
@Magisch That's pretty darn nice :D
 
@Seth Thats their idea of getting the employees to exercise
 
@Magisch Works, doesnt it?
That's a nice idea, too.
 
Indeed it does
I lost 10kg working there just because I spent 2 hours a day in that center
 
Employer benefits from having healthy employees
Employees benefit from having their workout paid
:)
@Magisch Nice! :D
 
10:41 AM
I may or may not apply there again after I'm done with uni after this
the pay isn't amazing but the benefits are so good
You even get close to free lunch every day
 
@Magisch I'd rather take a heavy paycut in order to get access to benefits like that (and a nice company culture + nice people)
Having a lot of money, but working for an employer that doesn't care for his employees aint fun.
 
I mean its still very much amenable. You could probably pull 30-40% more in private but you don't get the ridiculous benefits that way
Like gettting 1 extra day PTO every 2 years starting at 30
and there is no cap
 
PTO? :o
 
Urlaubstage
 
personal time off?
I see :D
That's nice.
 
10:44 AM
People start at 30 days a year, and get 1 more every 2 years they work there
 
I currently have 30 here, but it doesn't scale
 
So some of the guys that have been there for 30 years have 45 days PTO a year
 
@Magisch That's one and a half months... O_O
That's pretty darn nice.
 

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