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12:17 AM
@intboolstring that seems to be rec
 
1:10 AM
I'm confused, is this within the scope? stackoverflow.com/q/38646395/792066
 
I would go too broad
@EdCottrell what do you think?
 
that's complete garbage
it's unclear, it's no mcve (as in not explained what the issue is with link to resource), it's too broad
it's all sorts of off topic
 
1:34 AM
Is there a reason why I can't flag this post as VLQ?
 
@Machavity So what do I do in this case? Downvote, and be on my way?
 
@FrankerZ Can also flag NAA
 
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Q: Is using reputation to scale the number of close votes the best way?

Tim PostWhen we were working on the last se-quality-project, I wanted to introduce something into the review system that I still feel is pretty lacking. There's no way to really track your efficacy as a reviewer. For instance, how many of your close votes actually resulted in something being closed? How...

 
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Can a RO please pin that ^^
 
1:48 AM
BTW, if you have delete votes available, I've posted a few potential candidates in the campaings room.
 
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@SotiriosDelimanolis sure. also fyi I often vote on the questions you dupe hammer from the queue
 
I've noticed that, thank you!
 
2:07 AM
@Yvette It's been bounced around a few times today. Not sure why it never got pinned
@gunr2171 Any chance of a sticky pin for that? Kinda relevant to here
 
@ProgramFOX had to stop the edit bot. I tried to get to SO (main) and had a bunch of "error 401 too many requests", also the bot was freaking out for the same reasons
@Machavity reading..
sure, I'll pin it for the weekend
bah, crud, wrong one
#GoodEnough
 
#worksforme
\o night
 
#TimeForBed
 
user3956566
2:35 AM
@gunr2171 yeh just for a while as it's relevant and thanks for that.
 
user3956566
@Machavity yeh pinned now :)
 
3:02 AM
Can I borrow someone with 10k rep RQ?
When someone get's a second, can one direct me to a review of a deleted answer here that I completed. It's no longer in my history.
 
Danke
 
3:25 AM
I'm so close, I can taste those close queues. 150 more rep.
 
 
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4:31 AM
I'm making a tool check in system, where user enters in tool number and tells them the information they need for it, now say I have different types like hammers, screwdrivers etc, would it be better to make a table that breaks it down to what type the tool is than going to a table that's specifically for that tool or just putting all the tools in one table
 
4:54 AM
@PraveenKumar This should now be closed as typo rather than unclear. If one voter were to retract their vote, the question would have a fighting chance to be closed with a more appropriate close reason.
 
5:16 AM
@gunr2171 Sure, that's fine. It's all fine again so I'll restart it.
 
5:55 AM
Would this be an offensive flag?
It's offensive to look at :P
*Crawls back to corner
I hope it gets deleted before the mods review my flag
 
 
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7:01 AM
Hiya!
 
\o
I love smokie
 
7:39 AM
Plop!
 
@TheLostMind we love u 2
 
Plop Kyll!
 
Last report still alive
 
@rene - lol. Thank you :)
and we all love flowers
 
particularly the tasty ones
 
7:46 AM
I don't eat flowers.
 
 
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9:08 AM
If you haven't voted yet on the topics for the room meeting on Monday: please do.
 
 
 
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11:20 AM
Hiya
 
@Tunaki o/
 
11:48 AM
Hey everyone o/
 
Hey Seth
 
Hi Seth
 
How are you guys doing? :)
 
Plop Seth
Fine, what 'bout cha?
 
Good, reading through comments :p
Just woke up
1:30pm >.< ...
 
11:50 AM
Yep join the club
 
High five
 
should be closed and deleted, there are 3 more deleted spam answers on there
 
The new answer looks spammy af.
Is this on topic?
 
definite spam @Praveen then?
 
@Tunaki Yup...
 
11:57 AM
Well
 
The page won't even load for me right now
 
@Seth missing MCVE?
 
o.o
 
In the context of that question... Borderline
 
@Kyll Appears to be self-promoting though
 
11:57 AM
Let's blacklist her as well...
 
@Tunaki Roger
 
Purest form of spam.
 
It's dead anyway
 
let's just close and delete the monstrosity
look at me and my incredible vocabulary :p
 
monstrosity*
 
11:59 AM
!!/blame really bad internet here :(
 
@AshishAhujaツ It's Praveen Kumar's fault.
 
If I got a dime for the number of times I wrote "adress"....
 
yes!
 
I do many mistakes on "license" personally, as in French it's "licence"
 
oh that too
 
12:03 PM
For a while, I wrote "development" as "developpement", every... .single... time... People at work had to beat it out of me.
 
I write "developement" a lot of times
 
In germany we have "seid" (are) and "seit" (since)
You wouldn't believe the amount of people that swap them
 
The worst in "engineer", the letters are all mixed up with French. "ingeneer", "engeneer"...
 
Engineer's never been a problem for me. I find it different enough from ingénieur.
 
@Tunaki closed now, needs del votes
 
12:33 PM
 
 
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1:54 PM
seems quite useless...
 
@Adriaan just 13 q's. You can remove it if you want
 
@AshishAhujaツ the newest has that tag only
 
Oh. Then you can tag it with something else
 
I wouldn't know what to tag it with, plus it's closed as POB, tag editing would put it in the reopen queue without actually needing to be reopened
 
ah. Then I dunno what to do
 
@AshishAhujaツ went ahead anyway; tag's got no questions now
that migrated question, will that be kicked out at UTC 03:00 as well, since it's not on the main site but does show up in the search query?
 
2:38 PM
@Braiam Nope, and still Siberia is pretty vast ...
 
@rene mind going to the testing facility so that I don't break everything?
 
3:06 PM
Don't you get reputation back if a downvoted post gets deleted?
 
yes you do, blame caching
 
I will wait till tomorrow and see what happens.
 
it should be a few minutes
 
I know, but it has been like an hour.
 
meh, dunno
 
3:22 PM
Tuna, have you used SO careers?
 
I tihnk I tried to create a CV once but was thoroughly confused and dropped it
So... not really :)
 
ah I see.. I started using it today.. :P
 
If Riggs shows up, just wanted to say that guy wasn't that bad on the plagiarism side of things (if at all). Plus he did a comm wiki recently. Blah blah blah. And don't forget to ping us for PHP questions that you need help with closing.
 
Hum, some context @Drew?
 
3:31 PM
Oh yeah, that. The Praveen close request 1 page up.
 
Drew: Stirs up trouble, and dumps the crap on us :P
 
I didn't stir up that one, Riggzie did. I want more PHP close voters here :p
@RiggsFolly welcome. We could use your help pointing out PHP stuff to close.
 
You called!
 
Plenty of unused close votes these days. Just call out the horrible stuff for us.
 
Oh thought I was being called to the headmasters office for a spanking
 
3:33 PM
nah. More of a thanks.
 
Ok so how can I help
 
122 more rep, and you'll have another PHP close voter
 
When you stumble into the junk shall we say, and need some eyes to focus on it.
For instance, the tag took a hit when Fred bolted for a while.
 
anyone has used gdb to debug something complicated, like firefox? I finally managed to reproduce a bug but I think my stacktrace is at best worthless
 
@Drew So you mean come here to raise a posse if I see rubbish that needs closing and deleting
 
3:37 PM
@RiggsFolly so just ping one of us like @PraveenKumar @FélixGagnon-Grenier @FrankerZ @Machavity or riz too
Yes, raise a friendly crew to look at it
 
or whoever else I forgot that is here in the PHP world. Thx Riggs
 
Is this an official crew or just a loose group of like minded people
 
we are... a group of people with close votes
 
3:42 PM
@RiggsFolly we have a link at the top right that explains a bit who we are . @Drew (who obviously invited you somehow) runs the Campaigns room with a strict focus and SOCVFinder is a room where Gold Dupe hammers can have an effective use of close votes
 
@FrankerZ facepalm You even managed to miss a letter xD
 
That's the point :P
 
Just reading the cosvr.org link
@FrankerZ Wow! We dont appear to be artists though, so I should fit right in
 
3:45 PM
missed a letter, like the ops miss the mcve. So in that regard, I think it is perfect
 
I thought it was the big O around!
 
opens the imgur link. proceeds to not do anything more on that day
 
@Drew That's because they don't post MCVE but MVE.
 
M as maximal right?
 
Honestly, I just looked here, and completely missed the O
I've only been to the website once
I'm bad, and I should feel bad
 
3:53 PM
Yes, that ^
You're welcome ;)
 
Ok! What are peoples opinions on this sort of question stackoverflow.com/questions/38675659
 
@RiggsFolly Horrible. Should be closed.
 
Edit it. Make it better :P
 
No MCVE. Unclear.
 
@RiggsFolly I would close vote, maybe edit but I couldn't salvage it
 
3:56 PM
@FrankerZ Now how does one make that better
 
let me show you
 
@RiggsFolly Unclear; DV; No question asked.
 
@RiggsFolly You can link them to [ask] in a comment and the check list
 
@Rizier123 The question is in the title
"not getting userid from usertable where username = username , but remaining data like emails and username are coming"
 
3:57 PM
what does that even mean?
 
@rene I have a canned version of that
 
@RiggsFolly OK, great
 
Down below, where he's echoing out $row[userid], he's not getting anything
I think this question could be edited to become salvagable
My guess is that userid is not the column name.
 
@rene Ooo I had not seen tha before I will add that to my canned comment
 
no, the problem is they are closing a td when there are none
look the second line of the while
this is an answerable question, even though really bad one
 
4:01 PM
I agree that he's closing the </td>...but it should be in his code somewhere still though
 
Ok @FélixGagnon-Grenier All yours as I didnt spot that. Although if there is not <table> then a random </td> wont do so much damage will it
 
^
 
@queen too broad
 
sd k\
 
@RiggsFolly that being said... not so sure anymore if it should stay open. I won't vote but don't mind my answer if anyone was to cv.
 
4:10 PM
@RiggsFolly you might want to check our canned comments or add yours if you link.
 
I vtc as a typo
 
4:34 PM
Needs a dv before we can nudge it into oblivion stackoverflow.com/questions/38675952
 
@RiggsFolly we can't ask for DV here. We get into trouble
 
Oh ok got it
 
unless you meant delete vote. That is fine. But the two get confused.
Asking for delete votes is cool though.
 
Well the idea was to move it into a state where a DV was possible
Or rather a Delete was possible
 
@RiggsFolly that it already is; -2, closed, no answers
 
4:39 PM
Meaning, it will be roomba'd, and no reason to waste a del vote
 
@Adriaan Need -3 to be deletable I believe
 
@RiggsFolly ah, well, regardless, as Drew said, it's roomba's prey now
 
If OP shows the full expected output then the duplicate is wrong; But the question would still be pretty bad.
 
I did not DUP it
 
unless it is a harmful question and needs deleted now by 20k-ers
 
4:41 PM
@RiggsFolly no onebox
 
Does anyone know if it is possible, and if so, how, one can sort a tag based on answer votes? Because searching for a tag and then selecting to sort on votes does so on question votes
 
can you sort on at least answer count via the browser? I just use a bot for it (not answer votes though). As that is not my focus.
 
Active, newest, hot, votes (on Q that is) most linked, ending, bounty size < are the possibilities
 
So that is a no?
 
'tis indeed
 
4:47 PM
I can give you an extract for those with answer count
 
oh, there's a filter on the left as well: need answers, no answer, bounties and a popular sort
 
like seen in the Campaigns room or in the beehive
 
Night o/!
 
this question seems very broad. My first instinct was to migrate to stats, but it is generally TB or POB right?
@Drew what I was looking for is the amount of MATLAB answers that have gotten a Good Answer badge
they'd be rather rare I think
 
man that was a painful read
 
4:53 PM
E_WALL_OF_TXT
 
5:04 PM
@Suever how about the above ^
GMT room should have dealt with it
 
5:27 PM
If anyone wanted to maximize the endorphin potential of voting their consciences, the first two pages of open cv-pls requests contain something like 28 "just needs one more CV" items. The requests userscript shows vote counts, among other stats.
 
^ yes.
ninja :(
 
5:45 PM
@Praveen What do you think of this old resource request stackoverflow.com/questions/919688/good-small-html-editor? Close as dupe and delete?
 
@Tuna Dupe target?
Okay...
I will take care... Ready to delete it.
@tuna looks like it needs 2 down votes to make it delete...
 
It waited 7 years, it can wait 2 more days.
 
@Tunaki Ha ha ha... What happens?
 
But I see it is at -3 already.... voted
 
So I posted an answer talking about I/O and got a lecture (and a downvote) that it was a comment. Asking for a sanity check here
 
5:58 PM
@Machavity you are definitely sane
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier whew was worried for a sec ;)
 
I must say my view about that changed over the last few months. I might have been one to say you needed code examples. Than I realized thinking is often a better way to program things than writing code right away.
 
That is very true.
 
6:15 PM
@Machavity meh, answering a question that solve the wrong problem, proposing a sane (I mean, really?) approach is the best answer
 
6:28 PM
RO in the room
 
everyone hides!
 
@Braiam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [debian] [apt] [ubuntu]"
there are at least 1 of OB, TB, and ~7 of unclear and tons of OT in debian and ubuntu
 
6:49 PM
Hello!
 
Plop!
 
Hiya!
 
I just discovered something important. The "Discard" button in documentation doesn't mean "Discard this one example I'm working on." It means "Discard the last two hours of work you just put into the entire topic."
5
 
roflmao
 
Ryan Bemrose: learning The Hard Way™ since 2016
 
7:02 PM
@RyanBemrose Sounds like someone should document that. Oh, wait...
 
^Russian text+link
anyone here who speaks tyhat
 
It's a copy and paste from a different answer with a link added. Copied from here stackoverflow.com/a/9724529/4050842
 
k. Voted.
 
@Thaillie Yes. Left a comment.
 
7:16 PM
looks like the user came back to his question and posted the answer, but with another link to his site
 
7:37 PM
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
evening
 
o/
 
What's up Tuna?, some fun?
Yep I found the star star star fun : )
 
:)
 
8:07 PM
 
8:55 PM
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
rene passed a audit!
@Adriaan I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 12 minutes and 19 seconds, averaging to a review every 18 seconds.
@Adriaan You've reviewed 40 posts today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 7 minutes and 6 seconds, averaging to a review every 10 seconds.
 
@Closey and that without audits
 
9:19 PM
Before it gets Sunday, I better have some sleep
 
You have time left. No rush.
 
@Tunaki NAA at the very least; not sure about the spam as there's no links I can check to see whether it is
His profile says he's lead dev at the mentioned company
 
10:09 PM
I "just" voted to delete.
 
Flagged VLQ, I bet it has a spam flag on it all ready...
 
I'm off to bed. Good night lads
 
night @Tunaki
 
10:18 PM
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
@Closey you're really fast: "Tunaki reviewed this 57 mins ago: Close"
 
10:31 PM
Hiya all
 
Hi @πάνταῥεῖ
 
@cybermonkey Actually just wanted to place the same request here
 
10:43 PM
Hiya!
 
o/ @Petter
 
I will do a quick test cross sending a comment, rene gave me permission, just leave it, its only testing.
@queen remove
ok that works
 
11:17 PM
@SmokeDetector Protected now, to avoid further answers like these.
 
@ArtOfCode Why was this metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/35743 invalidated? Even @NathanOliver accepted that it was mistake and it's a spam! Seriously? NAA? Mate! Be fair. This is very unfair! @Tunaki
 
11:28 PM
@PraveenKumar Heat detector is on your comment thread....
 
@PetterFriberg That's boiling! :P
 
probably you are upset about smoky but poor op... I get's a lot of flagging for me
 
Waiting for the MetaSmoke admin on blindly clicking the shiny button!
Smokey is good...
I was actually following up this post... I guess I should wait for NathanOliver... :)
He can support me...
 
@PraveenKumar meeh Why do you care...
the 4% stuff?
 
@PetterFriberg I was so concerned about that single post, where mine and @πάνταῥεῖ votes were right, while @NathanOliver's and @Tunaki's votes should be invalidated. When I found today that they did the opposite, well, it's politics now! :P
Technically I should be out of the game!
Everyone!
 
11:35 PM
For me that post can go both way's but I have not visited link... if really fancy website... probably spam... if just another blog it can go both way's
 
@PraveenKumar The answer was definitely abusive (if we're talking about our most recent sd k's)
 
what does the 4% thing do again?
 
ignores input
 
I really don't care about the 4% thing... But this is crazy.
@ArtOfCode Great you are here.
This is SPAM!
 
Acquiring context
 
11:36 PM
Yes yes... Go back a day... That guy is from my area, posted spam...
NathanOliver confirmed it being spam...
Mine and @πάνταῥεῖ's feedback were invalidated while wrong feedback from NathanOliver and Tunaki are validated.
 
It doesn't seem like spam to me; is there context I'm missing?
 
hmm I followed link and saw some hotties... so I guess it's spam : )
 
That's a blog post, posted as answer, which is totally irrelevant and spammy!
That's a tamil movie blog... FYI...
 
"How do I do X with a Blogger blog -> here's a link to the blog". Link is disclosed. Without looking at the link content, which I didn't do because I had respectable company around, it looks to me like it's a question posted as an answer.
 
@ArtOfCode I agree
 
11:39 PM
Yeah it can go both ways... but clicking the link probably this time Praveen is right...
 
Could you get the chat messages posted during that time? It's a Tamil blog site, and ...
 
That doesn't automatically make it spam...
 
@PraveenKumar Ah, we're on that one again. They seem to be very tenacious :(
 
Only a mention of Long Path Tool is an instant spam-trigger, really. Not all Tamil cinema sites are spammy.
 
11:42 PM
That one really could go either way, with link content. Still looks like a question posted as an answer to me, but the site is spammish.
 
yesterday, by NathanOliver
@PraveenKumar You are right. I didn't actually follow the link. I believed he told the truth and it was a blog. My mistake.
Thanks @NobodyNada... ^^^
 
Well, to be fair, it is a Blogger blog, and the guy asked a question about how to do something with one of those.
 
Right
 
@ArtOfCode :/
 
Even spammer webmasters must have questions occasionally, even if they do post them in the wrong place.
 
11:43 PM
Looks like it's fine to spam our blogs by asking a question. LoL. Mate, you are convincing me to the core!
Or at least please think twice or thrice before pressing that shiny lil button!
 
I do.
 
Sure, that post might have been spam...but it also might not have been. It's borderline.
 
But two patients died! :(
 
@NobodyNada meeh following the link it's really really spammy... but anyway can't understnad why it's so important...
 
I don't just look at people's feedback, the stuff that they're giving the project for free because they care, and go "nah I'm not in a good mood today". The system doesn't work without feedback, and I know that, and I moderate feedback in the same frame of mind I mod SE.
Sometimes I do think that this room can get rather over-invested, though. Sometimes it's worth taking a step back, and assuming good faith.
 
11:48 PM
@ArtOfCode :) :)
At least you came and responded very well... I appreciate that.. LoL, that heat wave is now gone... Ha ha... I thought you blindly press that shiny button...
 
Sure, not everyone is here in good faith. But probably 95% of posts are legitimately made - it's just that when you see the shit of the site all day every day, your ability to assume that good faith tends to go hide in a corner.
 
@ArtOfCode I do not really think it is a room related issue more a user related issue, hence users invest time and energy so sometimes you need to listen to the rant... : )
 
@PetterFriberg oh, yeah. I use the room to refer to all the users as a collective of individuals, rather than the inanimate entity.
 
@ArtOfCode You are confusing the confusion!
 
@ArtOfCode Is feedback just used for filter stats, or is it used for anything else?
 
11:55 PM
@PraveenKumar unless the confused confusion was already discombobulated, and by confusing it further I am, in fact, antidiscombobulating it.
@NobodyNada right now its major use is for display stats, but I did also filter on it last week to get data for ML. Which we might see more of, given the size of the training data we have.
 
sorry, but...what's ML?
 
Sorry, machine learning
 
ah, thanks.
 
@ArtOfCode I just puked! :P LoL.
 
I did a basic Bayes test on our existing data, just to see what happened.
 
11:59 PM
@ArtOfCode How's the graph?
 
anything interesting?
 
@PraveenKumar graph?
 
@ArtOfCode Bayes is a graph right? I mean, plottable.
 
@NobodyNada it's terrible :) only just better than guessing
 

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