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3:00 PM
@Braiam Because I didn't check...
 
@TylerH It goes to HIQ
 
@TylerH s/5/3/ and it goes to the help and improvement queue
 
ah, so when do answers make it to the low quality queue from the triage queue? Ever? Or do they just bypass that and go straight from 3 or 5 low quality flags?
 
There are no answers in Triage
 
@Mogsdad: Nuked both wikis. better use existing tags :P
 
3:01 PM
@TylerH triage only retrieve questions
 
@Cerbrus Agreed.
 
that seems like an inherent flaw
 
But there's the First Post queue
 
How else can we abuse our powers today? Hmm....
 
.......... »_»
 
3:02 PM
Where is the queue for answers that lets them be flagged for "needs improvement"
 
@Mogsdad If we all combine our delete votes, we might accomplish something.
@TylerH First Post queue
 
What if it's not your first post?
 
Then there's not.
 
More fun... In addition to the [hack] tag wikis which we just had fun with, this user is making other wiki edits that are cut & paste from other sources. We're not to target a user, of course, but the suggested edits are bad.
 
So the message the system is sending is, in effect "Make your answer good from the beginning or it risks deletion"
hmm
 
3:04 PM
@Mogsdad You may want to flag them for plagiarism.
 
I just don't think any of the options for this VLQ post are adequate :-/
I don't think it looks OK and I don't think it should be deleted immediately
 
You can edit.
 
Which one?
 
I can edit it, but I am unable to edit in what needs to be added
aka an explanation of the code
 
You can add a comment then.
 
I need 5k already...
 
@NathanOliver Can't flag wiki edits. BTW - stackoverflow.com/tags/yakindu/info
 
but there should be a better supported option IMO
 
@TylerH Skipped? I thought adding a comment was an action.
 
We can also ping @MadaraUchiha or @MartijnPieters to have a look at the suggested tag additions from that user, @Mogsdad.
 
3:07 PM
v ah that's the problem
 
@Tunaki I'm not sure. I added a comment outside of the queue
I think I will just avoid the LQP queue
 
@Cerbrus If they get rejected for "copied content", that should be enough.
 
!!/alive
 
@TylerH What you did was the correct way to handle it. Comment and either skip or looks OK. The problem is that answer should never have ended up in the queue in the first place. User need to be educated on what is NAA and VLQ and what is not.
 
Smokey dead again?
 
3:09 PM
@NathanOliver agree.
 
looks like it
While this code snippet may solve the question, [including an explanation](http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/114762/explaining-entirely-‌​‌​code-based-answers) really helps to improve the quality of your post. Remember that you are answering the question for readers in the future, and those people might not know the reasons for your code suggestion.
 
@NathanOliver Community autoflags answers like that
 
@TylerH ^ Auto comment for you if you want
 
@NathanOliver author of that comment is a genius
 
Thanks, I don't use any userscripts though
@gunr2171 not sure if honest or referencing yourself...
 
3:11 PM
referencing myself :)
 
he is :P
 
<---- this guy is so awesome, it's incredible
 
@NathanOliver I've wondered if it's worthwhile pandering to their motivation. Answers with code AND GOOD EXPLANATIONS get the most upvotes. (Would be nice to point at a meta post with some analysis behind it. Something that @josilber might like to do, hint, hint.)
 
@Mogsdad That might get taken wrong as they may think i think they are members of camp 3
 
@NathanOliver But. What he said.
 
3:16 PM
> Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
3
 
^ just beat me to it
 
RIP Terry Pratchett :(
 
@DavidG My thoughts, exactly.
 
What?!?
 
He died about a year ago
 
3:18 PM
... and that is a quote from him.
 
Dang.
 
@PraveenKumar I have sass on my VM.
 
I need to finish reading the disc world series.
 
I can't bring myself to even open the cover on the last one. It's been sat on my shelf since the pre-order arrived
 
For a while, I had an easter egg in the Magic Editor, with a Pratchett quote. I should put it back... Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.
Thought it might be too insulting...
 
3:21 PM
Haha brilliant
 
@Braiam Do you have a link to that?
anyone think this is closeable?
I'm thinking unclear
 
Unclear. OP needs to define "more important"
 
Thought so
 
Hmm, I need to organize my stacktrace project into packages its getting really messy....
 
@NathanOliver many related links but none conclusive, I remember Shog saying that code only questions are fed to the LQRQ, but can't find it. Here's a post that auto flags are a thing meta.stackexchange.com/q/105813/213575
 
3:37 PM
> Note that the threshold for kicking these out of the queue is pretty low unless they also get flagged.
^ I am guessing that with that many of them are not auto flagged
 
Sam
@Tunaki Sorry, my internet dropped.
 
@NathanOliver that means: a single "looks good" or someone editing the post kick it out
 
The dangers of the Suggested Edit queue, when you're out of close votes...
 
Ah. read it wrong.
 
Sam
@PaulRoub lol :D
@NathanOliver You can use current session stats to get your stats if this happens though.
cc @Tuna
 
3:43 PM
Suggest this get rejected. Contains broken link, and is apparently incomplete.
 
@Mogsdad I wish there was a way to filter that queue with tag edits only
 
@Tunaki Hmm. Might be able to scan tags to see which have outstanding edits...
 
@Mogsdad hmm, I rejected the original attempt at that
@Tunaki I wish there were a way to filter for tag wiki edits
 
Sam
@Yam stats
 
Yam
I'm currently watching 533 posts.
 
3:45 PM
@TylerH No doubt they'll try again, then. Sigh.
 
@Mogsdad Oh, wait, I approved the excerpt: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/10962336
only because there were 41 questions tagged with it already
 
@TylerH tag wiki and excerpts for me
 
Yam ur not watching enuf :P
 
Sam
3:48 PM
Hey
 
Yam
@Drew O'RLY? (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
 
JAL
lol
 
hey!
 
Morning JAL o/
 
@JAL I'm on the fence
 
3:52 PM
@JAL Could be, or asking for off-site resource (tutorial)?
 
Sam
Oh and btw, Nor adds the timestamp of when an audit was passed to the link's tooltip.
 
JAL
I just think it's asking too many questions: What video provider should I use? How would I integrate it with my app? How would I upload videos to this provider from my app in Swift?
also shows not effort
 
too broad IMO
"How best to implement this? What should I do?"
 
@Mogsdad OP approved the edit
 
JAL
also has a non-answer
 
3:56 PM
Should this question be closed as Unclear or No MCVE or No repro or otherwise? stackoverflow.com/questions/34904112/…
 
JAL
(from that same user actually)
 
@NathanOliver Well, the cv-pls will be here when I get tomorrow's votes, so if it gets reopened, and isn't really improved, I'll kick it off again. Would be a shame to have wasted votes, but that's the way this game goes.
 
@Mogsdad It was edited before it was closed so hopefully it does not enter the reopen queue.
 
@KevinGuan gotta love the username/avatar, though
 
Sam
lol
 
4:00 PM
lol
But Yam's, Pham's and Sam's are better anyways.
 
var bot = (Sam) [Y,Ph]am;
What a picture! He could have a hand drawn red circle to get positive votes. :]
 
@kayess var bot = Everything;
Hmm...Everything is bot gives True then.
 
The name Everything does not exist in the current context.
 
that reminds me I need to have a pricing estimate for a cat 6 cablerun at my house
 
Sam
@Clo audit stats
 
4:08 PM
@Sam Stats of all tracked audits by tag:
 | Tag Name   | %     | Count |
 |----------------------------|
 | c          | 13.64 | 3     |
 | c++        | 13.64 | 3     |
 | java       | 13.64 | 3     |
 | php        | 9.09  | 2     |
 | javascript | 9.09  | 2     |
 | shog       | 4.55  | 1     |
 | ios        | 4.55  | 1     |
 | matlab     | 4.55  | 1     |
 | vba        | 4.55  | 1     |
 | google-api | 4.55  | 1     |
 | sanity     | 4.55  | 1     |
 | meta-drama | 4.55  | 1     |
 | c#         | 4.55  | 1     |
 | andriod    | 4.55  | 1     |
 
Sam
> meta-drama
lol
 
@TylerH You really need cat6?
 
@Closey andriod?
 
@Tunaki Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
Sam
@Nor stop bot
 
4:11 PM
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Goodbye!
 
@Tunaki good spot!
 
@DavidG cat6a to be precise
 
I forgot cat6 is for 1gb, been a while since I did any cabling
 
@DavidG It's not really the throughput but the sustained distance for the signal
 
PUT THE SPAM OUT OF ITS MISERY, NOW, RIGHT NOW
 
4:13 PM
Hey everyone! (SOCVR chatbot started, linux v2 test!)
 
Sam
Nor's now a little smarter with his articles when announcing passed audits.
 
This is a new one for me: You can only perform 30 searches within a 60 second window, please wait a moment and try again.
 
I don't expect to get 1gbit speeds at that house ever, but I need a room wired that requires 100ft of cable from the router
cat6 gives plenty of future proofing, but the throughput drops off substantially after a certain range
cat6a is a bit more expensive and has a mite less total throughput, but extends the throughput far enough that there should be no degradation
Cat 6a does 10 gigabit speeds for the full distance of ethernet (328 ft), and also reduces crosstalk compared to 6 and 5e
 
I'm getting GE within my house over CAT5. Longest run is less than 30'.
 
Unfortunately the design of the network at this house is less than stellar
 
4:19 PM
Ethernet over power @TylerH?
 
the office is in an addition at one end of the house (ranch-style house), so that's where the modem and router were put
 
That's a big house then :p
 
@Braiam too wonky unless I want to pay $100, at which point I'd rather just upgrade to a real installation
 
and out of flags
 
@Thaillie It's 100 feet straight from the office to the room I need the port in, and there's an additional 30 or 40 feet of house length left
unfortunately none of the rooms except the office have ethernet ports in them
 
4:21 PM
G'night!
 
Sam
Night!
 
Night Kay o/
 
I did my own - new house, a Saturday night during construction. Planned for a hub in a central linen closet.
 
Night!
 
which IMO is a detracting point if someone were to buy the house
 
4:21 PM
Night
 
@Sam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
ideally the router would be in the middle of the house in the family room, but noooo
 
@TylerH lets hope that the other number is 6 feet
 
@Braiam the other number?
 
100 feet by 6 feet?
 
4:27 PM
Sam passed a audit!
 
Sam
@Nor stop bot
 
@Sam You don't have an ongoing review session on record.
Your current reviews stats for today:
Reviews completed: 6
Duration: 4 minutes 45 seconds
Duration per review: 57 seconds
Audits passed: 1
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Goodbye!
 
@Sam one message and 3 different commands to Nor. You are a ninja sir ;)
 
Hey everyone! (SOCVR chatbot started, linux v2 test!)
 
Sam
;)
 
4:32 PM
@Braiam I'm not sure where the second measurement comes in; the 100foot is a measure of distance, one object to another
i.imgur.com/JoHNjdc.png here's the house layout and where things are located
 
@Sam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
(freehand, but no circles)
 
Do you have dead space at then end of the hallway or is that a hallway closet?
 
Sam passed a audit!
 
can I get support for a "silly" close vote? stackoverflow.com/questions/34904724/…
 
Sam
4:35 PM
@Nordehinu Eh, missing space.
 
@Sam Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
@TylerH Have you tried those things that do ethernet over power sockets?
 
@NathanOliver it's closet space for the master bedroom
 
well technically I think it's also space for the bottom-right bedroom as well but it was just a 1 minute sketch :-P
 
4:37 PM
@Tushar I went with MCVE
 
@DavidG yeah, see my message to braiam above; I'd rather pay some more for a proper wire install
 
@TylerH was making a joke that your house was long but with a thin layout...
 
@Braiam oh
whoosh
 
yeah, I know...
 
@TylerH Ah ok, I should really read before posting. Did you also mention a wireless repeater? :)
 
4:42 PM
Hey everyone! (SOCVR chatbot started, linux v2 test!)
@Sam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@DavidG not sure if the lag would be a deal breaker
 
@DavidG there is one already, actually, top-center along the wall of the dining room. Wireless devices are configured to connect to that one since it's closer to all the bedrooms, etc.
 
Sam passed a audit!
 
Sam
Ok, I'm done, I'll stop spamming now. :p
 
Sam passed a audit!
 
4:44 PM
the problem is, there is some latency in case someone wants to game in their room, but more importantly, any time someone runs the microwave for more than 15 seconds, it kills the wireless signal between the router and the repeater
 
@Mogsdad Not a bad idea :)
 
@Sam How are you faking the audits or are you just that "Lucky"?
 
@josilber Thought you might like that one!
 
@Mogsdad Working on another analysis meta post
 
putting the router on the other side of the microwave from everything else is not the brightest idea my dad ever had
 
4:44 PM
but that one could be next
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Nor goes through each user's history for today to get up to speed.
 
@TylerH get a microwave with real shielding...
 
@TylerH Perhaps your microwave is screwed then, it might be cooking you as well as your food!
 
then again, this was done before iPhones were a thing
 
@Sam Ah.
 
4:45 PM
@Braiam lol, any microwave will have this problem at the 2.4Ghz band
 
> In theory, a "properly shielded" microwave shouldn't leak any radiation. However, in practice, they leak quite a bit.
aka: get a real microwave
 
They had a top of the line microwave from the 70s that lasted until about ~2003, and they bought another really, really nice one to replace that one when it died.
@Braiam seriously it doesn't matter what microwave you get
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Having said that, I've just noticed a missing char...
 
Hey everyone! (SOCVR chatbot started, linux v2 test!)
 
I've done plenty of research about it
 
Sam
4:47 PM
Hence the tags missing from the tooltip. I'm done testing though.
 
Am I not on the automatic chatbot anymore? I did some (43) closevote reviews today but didn't get pinged by any robots
 
Sam
We recently-ish wiped the DB of the auto one.
 
Ah, OK. Can I get re-added?
 
Sam
Sure thing. Bear in mind it's still in beta though. ;)
 
That's cool :)
 
Sam
4:49 PM
@Nor add user 3093387
 
@Sam Ok, I added josilber (3093387) to the tracked users list.
 
Sam
You could actually add yourself. (Mods have full access.)
 
@Braiam I believe this is the microwave we have amazon.com/Panasonic-NN-SE982S-Stainless-Countertop-Technology/…
pretty sure that qualifies as a "real microwave" ;-)
 
Sam
Only if it comes with a free bag of popcorn.
 
@Sam Ah nice
 
4:54 PM
@TylerH Wrap it in foil - make a Faraday cage
 
@DavidG lol
at one point I did make a parabolic foil antenna to place on the far side of the router
so that wireless signals sent that way would bounce back
 
Haha
 
it only increased wireless speeds by like 300kbps and looked tacky as hell so I eventually through it away
 
300kbps > aesthetics!
 
@DavidG that would actually be a really fun experiment if it were my own kitchen
faraday cages are cool
 
4:58 PM
@TylerH Couple of weeks ago, I stood in the same room that Faraday once gave his lectures
 
neat
When I visited NYC in 2007 I sat in the very chair where George Washington sat during church services at that one church that survived the 9/11 building collapses
that was kinda neat
 
That is very cool too
I just got lucky when I got tickets to go there (and see Stephen Hawking while there of course!)
 
Cool
 
Sam
And I know you guys, and that's pretty cool.
 
@TylerH "through". Tut-tut.
 
5:03 PM
@DavidG that's cooler than faraday IMO
@Mogsdad freudian slip
thinking about all that throughput
just be glad I didn't add an apostrophe to a rand'om word like I'm wont to do sometimes
a holdover from my days building stereotypical fantasy realms and names as a teenager
 
@TylerH Well yeah, I agree! Room was full of famous people, scientists etc. Richard Dawkins was one of them.
 
Thanks for the segue, though! Spelling mistake du jour! 60K posts!
(Actually a grammatical error...)
 
omg
I can hit 60,000 posts edited
thanks Mogsdad
stackoverflow.com/… Still much work to be done
 
@TylerH I love how the second result talks about parsing a string in that form.
 
5:25 PM
Drew, I think you need something better to do. — D. Kermott 10 mins ago
maybe he's right
 
5:43 PM
@BhargavRao Thanks for reminding me of my query at meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/305930 -- it's a lot easier to dig into those cases as a mod.
 
Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
 
Hi
@josilber Yep, Happy to hear that the comment helped :)
(I am deleting the comment as you've seen it anyway)
 
6:04 PM
@cimmanon Omg!!! :D
 
@PraveenKumar btw, i closed that question as a dupe
 
LoL I saw it.
Thanks :D
 
Sam
6:20 PM
My eyes
 
@Sam I like the ** at the start and end. It looks like he intended to bold all the text
 
Sam
Yeah
Well, I guess I'll edit it then...
 
@gunr2171 HEY LOOK AT MY QUESTION I NEED HELP MOAR URGENTLY THAN OTHERS PLS THX
 
@MadaraUchiha Oh no, you've become corrupt with power!
afk for meeting
 
@gunr2171 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT SIR BUT CAN YOU KINDLY PROVIDE WITH CODE
 
Sam
6:31 PM
Phew
I still don't get what he's saying in the third paragraph though.
 
@MadaraUchiha I don't know how you are generously giving away 500s (me too waiting to get one LoL)... I like that attitude very much.. I still wanna be on the top #1 rank.
 
@MadaraUchiha you forgot "KIND", remember all sirs are "kind"
 
@PraveenKumar That's because he doesn't need rep anymore ;) Once you get the diamond you have access to everything.
 
@NathanOliver Including Rep? :P **Evil Laugh**
 
@gunr2171 say Hi to your boss from me...
@Drew Try Yahoo Answers?
 
6:42 PM
maybe I should focus on Yahoo Answers
 
Just a reminder, Room Owner nominations close on Friday!
2
 
Okay, so in agreement with this chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/28205757#28205757 ... Hey @Yam can you join the RO Team, Plz
 
Rule 89183837644.34/H Bots cannot be nominated for Roo.... oh, whatever...
2
 
but, but Sam is a bot
 
Then how on earth did you allow @Sam ... Yeah
:D
Nice @josilber I see you've already started on that query :D
 
6:59 PM
@BhargavRao Yup, took a look at all those accounts
 
@josilber Caught only 1? Any more there :D
 
Sam
@rene :D
 
@BhargavRao I had picked up two with the default parameters, though I may try a version of the query that displays more accounts.
 
Hello, all
 
Sam
Wb!
 
7:04 PM
\o
 
Sam
Didn't recognise you for a moment.
 
Hello!!
@josilber Nice, let the power of the diamond be with you :P
 
@Sam Once he kicks you, you'll remember ;)
 
Sam
Lol
 
7:05 PM
Haha, but @Sam is but an innocent bot, I'd never...
2
 
@Andrew Howz the "beer" going? :D
 
tuesday and wednesdays people ask a boatload of questions
 
homework must be due
 
^ That reminds me of the deadline Starts R immediately
 
Haha, I'm consuming beer diligently, @BhargavRao.
 
Yam
7:08 PM
@BhargavRao ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@AndrewCheong Lol, I thought you were moderately consuming beer :
 
Moderating a site about beer and moderating my drinking are completely disjoint things lol
 
@Yam Add a nomination and ping @rene with that ... Yam for the win
 
Are we still using Pham 1.0 or...
 
We are using Sam 3.14
3
 
7:10 PM
We have @Nordehinu now
 
@rene Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
Sam
@AndrewCheong I'm now using Pham for his original project. Nor took over.
 
@Nordehinu commands
 
Below is a list of commands for the Close Vote Chat Bot

Everyone
    alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
    commands - Shows this list.
    help - Prints info about this software.
    running commands - Displays a list of all commands that the chat bot is currently running.
    status - Tests if the chatbot is alive and shows simple info about it.

Registered
    audit stats - Shows stats about your recorded audits.
    completed tags [min <#>] - Shows the latest tags that have been completed by multiple people.
 
Yam
@BhargavRao Doesn't rene bite though? I'm not sure if I should ping him.
 
7:15 PM
But he's still in beta
 
@Yam Oh C'mon, we'll take care of him if he ever dares to bite you. You go ahead with the nomination
 
Sam
@BhargavRao I like trains pie.
 
We all like pie :D
 
Yam
@BhargavRao I'll need some time to think up something. Watching all these questions is hard work...
 
@Yam You will get moar powers ... You can "kick" people out of their graves
 
Sam
7:19 PM
Actually, Yam can't enter since he doesn't have 100 rep.
 
Then Nor can :D
 
Then Nor can Nor
Oh, Nor actually has Rep. Okay, I'm not used to bots, I admit it.
 
Err, Tiny is now RO Emeritus?
 
Sam
afk
 
bots/second accounts can of course be used so long as they aren't used for vote sharing
I'm still petitioning for @Closey's owner to answer one question so we can get him some decent rep
 
7:22 PM
@TylerH Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
@BhargavRao Yes
 
@TylerH - I see.
 
2 days ago, by rene
Given the recent developments we have discussed the life-time of RO-ship. We now feel we removed Tiny from the RO list in error. He'll be re-added shortly but his status will become inactive. The FAQ is updated to reflect that.
 
Nice, they are refered to as inactive room owners™ and not as RO Emeritus :D
 
that's lamer than emeritus
 
7:27 PM
As everything in this room, we keep it as much boring/lame as possible
 
@rene -_-
 
Lol, I wrote program using plot3D and came to know that func doesn't exist in R :D
 
@rene Was that an auto-comment?
 
afk for now, got some work to do
 
@NathanOliver yes
 
7:30 PM
@rene Can I haz source plz? tanks in advance.
 
`###New Bad post
You really should take the [tour] and visit the [help] to understand what we expect from our users and their posts. In its current form I see no other option to [down vote](http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/252677/when-is-it-justifiable-to-downvote-a-question). Please [edit] your question into shape.`
 
@BhargavRao you should upgrade to the latest version, S
 
:D
 
@rene Thanks
 
yw
 
7:48 PM
@TylerH Haha, the earlier version was called precisely that!
 
really?! So R is actually a regression
 
Yeah, next they'll call it Q
 
So if we wait long enough it turns into C?
 
A is when it becomes perfected
 

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