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1:52 AM
How do I report this account. stackoverflow.com/users/7911133/bhfjgkhjkhjklj recently created and all answers are unrelated to questions asked.
 
2:26 AM
@SmokeDetector Hey, I remember this guy!
 
QPaysTaxes has started reviewing!
 
2:54 AM
\o
 
3:10 AM
Any mods awake?
 
 
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5:58 AM
@rene, @NathanOliver, or any RO, Please remove this request. The question about which it was posted has been deleted, but it still references the proposed dup-target (thus it may not be automatically recognized as complete).
 
6:25 AM
Morning \o
 
 
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user3956566
8:35 AM
can anyone recommend a goodwirelss network adapter for windows pc? vote to close as off topic
 
@Makyen now done
 
@YvetteColomb I have found D-Link ones good enough for short (5-8m away from wireless router) ranges
 
user3956566
@kayess thanks, my speed is 1Mpbs
 
@YvetteColomb mine too, up to point when I lack coffee, after that I switch to 1Gbps
 
user3956566
Aussie internet is appalling.
 
user3956566
8:38 AM
you should google it
 
9:13 AM
hi everyone btw
 
Now why can't I flag for VLQ on the answer I linked? It's a link-only answer if I ever saw one.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Oh wow... Not sure how did that happen! :(
 
9:29 AM
@Cerbrus appears they thought twice about that FR :-)
 
@SmokeDetector Why's this not auto deleted? :O
 
@JonClements Guess so. Good user :P
@PraveenKumar Dude, don't apologize on spam o.O
 
@Cerbrus Sure.
 
I was in the middle of commenting on your answer saying don't forget that comments (deleted or not) on deleted posts aren't listed (nor are actually deleted comments which are mod only)
 
So, the OP ninja-cancelled the FR :P
 
9:34 AM
Non deleted comments on deleted posts can be seen by going to the post (obviously) but aren't listed there... Just in case it comes up again in future :-D
 
@JonClements o/
 
@JonClements o/
 
Heya @Praveen
 
How's you? :) Long time... :D
 
You now broke our mod-train : (
 
9:40 AM
Just busy with one thing or another - doing fine though thanks.
 
^ unclear - the obvious solution didn't work despite that it should have.
 
 
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10:50 AM
Morning o/
 
@Seth \o
 
Does anyone here know of a half-decent library for HTTPS connections using java?
I seemingly am too dumb to handle cookies properly.
 
@PetterFriberg Thanks a lot =D
Any idea about how jsoup handles cookies?
If it does, that is.
Because - as of right now - I cannot scrape the html of a specific website as it's redirecting me to a website telling me to turn on my cookies
 
jsoup is THE lib for http connections
 
10:57 AM
@PetterFriberg Ok, will do, thanks a lot :D
 
Currently in java I would pretty safely say that if you wan't a lib for http connection, jsoup is the most famous one. However I do not know all the functions it have... for that I search internet ;)
Here is a SO question stackoverflow.com/questions/1322335/… but since it's closed we can't answer jsoup :D
The problem of old resource requests
 
Oh boy, are you going for a revamp of the "You should totally drop that & try jQuery", this time with jSoup? :D
Spam.
 
@Seth I actually don't really use it, I tend to handle the connections manually.... since that way I can see what happens and do exactly as I like... but yeah try jQuery.
 
@PetterFriberg I wanted to do exactly that
But no matter what I do, I cannot scrape the html
So I'll first try it with an external lib, purely focussing on the cookies
& later on DIY-style
 
normally is just about setting correct headers.. request properties like user-agent ecc.
 
11:20 AM
How is Cleo today @YvetteColomb? Your last update seems quite positive
 
Morning
 
@NathanOliver 'fternoon
 
Nathan be rollin'
 
:)
Should this be closed as a typo? Unicode ' instead of ascii ' in the source code.
 
11:32 AM
@NathanOliver yes
 
Ok,now I know why beginners are so confused: From a specific profile: "Authored three popular books on C++ ..." and than such a question (sorry, 10k only, but the tile pretty much covers it) stackoverflow.com/questions/43586689/…
 
@SmokeDetector LO or spam?
 
@Olaf Hate to say it but Taught at premier educational institutions in India
 
@NathanOliver Yes, that, too. So now we know where all rubbish questions with missconceptions come from.
 
@Adriaan going with spam as you have to pay for it.
 
11:42 AM
@NathanOliver aight, thanks
 
@Olaf w3schools?
 
@Olaf Well they pretty much all get taught on turbo C++ which causes 90% of the problems. You can't use a compiler that has to run in DosBox in this day and age,
 
Eeks... another question. Anyone here using netbeans?
 
used to
 
Idk what I'm doing wrong (haven't really tried to use libraries until now), but right-clicking the project & selecting properties doesn't show me a libraries-tab
Do I have to enable that somewhere?
 
11:45 AM
What kind of project?
 
Maven
 
@NathanOliver It is not just that. Such a question shows there was not even a short peek into the standard(s). That answer was so very explicitly stated in the standard. Heck, I'd bite my fingers before I'd ask such a question with such a CV.
@Seth I prefer Kidney-Beans. How do Net-beans taste?
 
@Olaf >.< ..
 
I prefer actual beans
 
@JanDvorak I've already tried adding the dependency to my pom.xml, but that didn't work either
Idk what I'm doing (wrong)
 
11:47 AM
hello !
can someone help me !?
 
Depends.
 
@Olaf Why check the standard when the compiler you have used for the last 20 years always used unsigned int? ;) Totaly agree BTW. Simple typing in sizeof size_t c++ into google gives you this which would have answered his question.
@MustaphaElbazi what problem are you having?
 
@NathanOliver An author of C++ books should know better. I'd like to knwo which books that are so I can delete them from the list of recommendations if they are on it.
 
@NathanOliver it's not a problem
 
@Olaf here they are
 
11:51 AM
i won 9000$
of microsoft cloud services
 
What kind of help do you want then?
 
but i don't know if it's valuebal like a cash 9000$ ?
valuable *
??
 
@MustaphaElbazi: well, I don't think you can sell it, no
 
^
 
Do you have a use for it?
 
11:53 AM
I'm not sure if you could sell it for cash. You might want to find a different place to ask about this though. We really do not handle things like this.
 
"Why?" what?
 
You could shelf the coupon
 
i can't sell it
 
Sam
@yam alive
 
11:54 AM
?
 
Well, you could ask whoever gave it to you to see if they will give you the money
I doubt they will :-)
 
no they will not
 
@NathanOliver Maybe size_t is too low-level ;-)
 
The cost of providing $9K of server time is probably closer to $900 :-)
 
Re-sell it to someone else, at a discount (i.e. sell it for $8000)
 
11:55 AM
Or give the server time to a charity who will find it useful
 
@halfer i didn't understand u !?
 
It's worse than food coupons. You can sell those.
@MustaphaElbazi no textspeak, please
 
halfer proposes a rule that txtspk leads to automatic kick from the room
2
 
Yam
GraveRobber started 2.2.0 (debug).
 
@halfer Supported! For the whole site.
 
11:56 AM
We spend a lot of time editing and improving posts written by people for whom "you" is too much trouble to type
 
@halfer +1
 
guys i am not good in english
bbut i feel like i am doing something wrong in this room
am i wrong ?
 
You're asking in the wrong place :)
 
"u" is wrong anywhere
 
We're asking you to use real words: "you", not "u", "please" not "plz", etc.
 
11:57 AM
-.- ...
 
Txtspk is not English.
 
Jesus christ, both of you.
 
oKey !
 
Language policing is kinda uncool if you're dealing with a user who's clearly not a native speaker, and inexperienced when it comes to the english language.
 
@Seth There is only one Jesus Christ, and it's neither of us ;-)
 
11:58 AM
@Seth and a flying spaghetti monster to you
 
U gib r00t we B frienz!
 
@Seth It doesn't take a master's diploma to learn "u" isn't a word
 
@MustaphaElbazi being not perfect at English is not that big a problem here (just write words not in textspeak, as noted). The problem is that this is not a room to ask questions about what to do with $9000 worth of Microsoft cloud time. Which room you can ask that question in though, I have no idea.
 
so about the 9K services
can i find a buyer ?
 
But it's still not what one should do in this situation.
 
11:59 AM
@JanDvorak I always wonder: what do people do with that half a second they win by not typing out the other two letters...
 
Like I said, @MustaphaElbazi, wrong place to ask.
You'd be better off listing it on a site like ebay (?) if that's available in your country.
 
@Adriaan they save it up for when someone calls them out
 
okey
thank you very much
all of you
 
user3956566
@halfer oh have you been following her updates?
 
You're welcome
 
user3956566
12:00 PM
Yep she's improving thanks for asking :)
 
Yep, I am not too sqeamish
:)
 
Who's cleo? :o
 
Horsey
 
o.o
 
@FireAlarm you're late
 
12:01 PM
What happened to horsey?
 
Yvette's rescue horse got injured
 
@halfer Can't click on it, at work ._.
Ow.
 
user3956566
I have a huge public photo album on fb, but a lot of people here don't have it -_-
 
Yep, up with Cleo, down with Facebook
 
!!/reboot
 
12:04 PM
Seth, your comment earlier does prompt me to think whether non-native speakers of English are aware that txtspk are not real words. It seems to me that one simply could not make that mistake, since txtspk is an off-shoot of instant messaging and internet chat. For SMS such folks would generally use their native language.
 
@halfer Do you mean the online clothes store?
 
In India, English is the national language, and they're unlikely to learn that plz k thx are real words.
Er no, not heard of a clothes stores called Cleo! :-)
 
@halfer Said person is not from india.
 
@Seth: that was not the point I was making.
 
@halfer That's what Google thought you meant
 
12:06 PM
And non-native speakers often "extend" their english skills by using the english language.
 
Would be interested in your views for the general case
 
Which is being butchered everywhere you look.
 
I am the anti-butcher :-)
 
Well, most people with access to half-decent education have basic english skills nowadays
The problem is that most of these people also frequently use whatsapp, facebook, twitter etc.
 
apostrophes are being butchered everywhere, you/u much less so.
oh. Maybe on facebook - I don't check there.
 
12:07 PM
Places where grammar & spelling are less important than having 50% emoji's in your tweet.
 
OK, but my question is: do people who use "plz" believe it to be a English word?
 
Thus, almost naturally, people develop a different "kit"
Afaik, yes.
Which is sad.
 
I have always disagreed with that position then, which is why I come down hard on it. But it would be interesting to find if there is any data on it.
 
But I'm not keen on policing language if it's not actually going to help.
 
proposed new standard reply: "pro-tip: "u" is not a real word and it's pretty annoying"
 
12:09 PM
I would be much less hard on it if I thought people were not doing it out of laziness.
 
@Seth Maybe. Question is if they use it, too or "deprove" their skills by litening to certain english songs and tweets which use txtspk.
Not sure if there are starter courses in txtspk at schools already. Considering certain questions, I'd not be surprised, though
 
@Seth clean language is beneficial in and of itself
 
@JanDvorak Never said anything else.
 
@Olaf that's horrifying
 
@JanDvorak That was the idea of the sentence:-)
 
12:10 PM
But you're probably not going to help one improve one's english skills in a chatroom where one's asked kind of a "drive-by"-question.
If we're talking about content on Stack Overflow, then yes, improving that & pointing it out is making an actual difference.
 
Do we start correcting them on their second visit then?
 
But not in chat, not in this situation.
> where one's asked kind of a "drive-by"-question.
 
It does help, if only for the duration of their stay
 
@Seth It is not just a matter of being lazy. Such badly phrased questions are often a result of not well thought statements. Using proper words often shows one has thought about the problem and not just spit out something, leaving interpretation to the reader.
 
I highly doubt that. c:
 
12:12 PM
But point taken, it often spurs tell-them/dont-tell-them discussions, which reduce the benefit of telling them :-D
 
^
 
@Seth Take a base course in Psychology :-)
 
Tbh, I personally consider it a waste of time. If one of the regulars or someone on the way of becoming a regular would start writing txtspk on the other hand...
 
@JanDvorak It it does, the original subject was probably not that important?
 
@Olaf That was directed to Jan's previous message.
 
12:14 PM
@Seth I was kinda suggesting to not discuss tell-them/dont-tell-them. Just telling them is probably a net benefit if we don't discuss if it was beneficial enough afterwards ;-)
 
@Seth k
:-)
 
And I agree with your point. Bad spelling shows a lot of things, none of which are good.
@JanDvorak I know o:
 
There's even the "unclear" close reason for when the spelling is really bad.
 
If the spelling is too bad to make any sense of it... which we're currently seeing quite often :/
 
@Seth Just to be clear: there is a difference between bad spelling (I make a lot of syntrax errors, most of them because I think faster than I type), but intentional bad language. I'd be (one of) the last to blame someone for not knowing the language better.
 
12:17 PM
We should ask for a feature that blocks questions with obvious spelling mistakes (let's say a 1:25 ratio, meaning 1 mistake in 25 words), not pointing out the mistakes ^_^
 
I love that >:-)
 
@Olaf My bad, I know what you meant. =D
 
@Seth Just tell me if you don't want me to post anymore. No need for such a ratio :-P
 
Yet even with bad english skills - or especially with bad english skills - one should try to keep it above a certain level of "Gosh 'tis bad".
 
Since Smokey's dead for now
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 mins ago, by M.A.R.
!!/report http://stackoverflow.com/a/43587802/5210517
 
12:18 PM
I have an unfinished JS project somewhere that applies a large list of regexs to a post and lists all the writing errors in it. Maybe I should finish it....
 
@halfer Been working on one in java :) Quite fun once I got the gist of it.
 
Coolio
 
@Seth That's the point. If someone is not able to formulate a single, understandable sentence in a language, he should refrain from posting on a site using that language. I don't post on chinese-speaking sites for good reasons.
(not that I had an idea how to type any kind of chinese ideograms at all).
 
But then again how do you practice a language if you can't use it?
 
@Olaf The thing is, even if the grammar is bad (which is harder to monitor as non-native with little experience), at the very least the words should be spelled correctly.
And that's really not hard, given that you can use google translator and stuff for single words (or even sentences, though that's not that great).
 
12:23 PM
Sentences that Google Translate generates are almost invariably bad grammar
 
@JanDvorak You not what mean we get?
 
@JanDvorak You need a minimum experience to start here; we are not a language learning site. For me, practicing and improving my english skills was in fact one major reason to join here.
@Seth Nah! That''s a really bad ide, considering we have quite specialised semantics here. They often even differ between different fields of application.
 
@Olaf We're not? Dang, I need to pack my stuff and move elsewhere
 
@Olaf They're going to ask the question regardless.
Might as well try to make it at least readable.
Not enjoyable, but readable.
If a Q/A (non-meta!) gives me a headache while reading through it, something's wrong.
 
@M.A.R. :-) That's why I differentiated between learning tha basics and improving.
 
12:27 PM
If you want to learn English there's an SE site for that
 
@Seth Have two Aspirin and VtC :-)
@Machavity There is a site for everything on SE
 
@Olaf Not enough repz for the VtC :) But aspirin sounds good.
 
JAL
12:42 PM
Morning all o/
Woke up to that this morning. M. Bison voice: "Yes, YES!"
 
\o/
 
@JAL Congrats on your onebox!
 
Morning & congrats
oh-oh
 
JAL
rene's at work post oneboxes
Thanks!
 
@JAL WOW CONGRATS!!!, SLEDGE IT ALL!!
 
JAL
12:43 PM
That will definitely be helpful with the apple cleanup
 
@JAL Morning and congrats
 
JAL
thanks!
 
fwiw Smoke Detector is dead at the mo, stay tuned
 
JAL
@NathanOliver free flags on that [non-]answer as well
 
@JAL I always forget about those as I just close and delete the Q
 
12:54 PM
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 15 secs ago, by Thomas Ward
@tripleee i'll start up Eclipse shortly
 
@Mistalis as the meta post says - I've always viewed it as "the post never happened in the first place from the owner's POV"
 
@tripleee But Closey is still alive...
 
@Machavity sure, just hoping to coordinate so we don't get people bursting into Charcoal wondering what's up (not that the discussion there is currently very crucial either)
 
ryanyuyu has started reviewing!
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 14 secs ago, by SmokeDetector
Restart: API quota is 19995.
let's hope it stays up /-:
 
1:09 PM
@JAL ahh, but have you mastered that annoying jump and air kick thingy he always use to do in SF2? :)
 
JAL
@JonClements Ahaha my Street Fighter 2 skills are seriously lacking.
 
@JAL remember playing that game at level 7, all characters, no round lost :)
took me a few weeks...
 
JAL
@JonClements Holy crap you are like this guy at my old office, who would destroy all of us at SF. Like this guy would get perfects or near perfect games every round
We had a tournament with brackets and everything. I lost like $50 USD that night
 
@JAL I had to laugh the other day - my nephew was playing marvel vs capcom or something on his whatever game console I have here
I played Ryu that was one of the characters
 
JAL
1:13 PM
That's another great game. I also had SNK vs. Capcom for PS2 that I imported from Japan
 
(loads of moves I don't remember, but the hurrican kick, fire punch and that fire bolt were still there - with pretty much the same pad commands)
so I just used those
Won 9-0 - ended in tears that I was just button bashing and I'm old so what do I know about games - etc...
 
1:37 PM
Any JS people lurking?
 
@NathanOliver I saw this message from the JS room, does that count?
 
1:50 PM
wowsers... I've just been pointed out to a few Robbie Williams tracks I didn't even know about - me likes
 
JAL
It's always fun to find a song from an artist you like that you haven't heard before
like recently I found a B-52s song that I've never heard before and absolutely love it
 
@JAL there's a few "covers" of songs that are better than the original - but yeah...
although it's been before: my song of the day: youtube.com/watch?v=pm3rDbXbZRI
 
@TylerH Sorry was AFK. Looks like it is being handled.
 
2:08 PM
@JAL I found one of those last week by Queen youtube.com/watch?v=dGeEuyG_DIc
jammed all weekend to it
 
@QPaysTaxes github.com/makyen/StackExchange-userscripts/tree/master/… I don't know if it works outside.
it seems to be working
 
And here we go!
 
spam? stackoverflow.com/q/43590923/5292302, or do we only close?
note link is porno link, so you better not click at work
 
I'm at home and I still won't click
 
Hue.
Did I show you guys a picture of my dapper dog?
@PetterFriberg I am not at home so I shall not close =w=
 
Destroyed.
flexes cat biceps
 
How does a cat flex its biceps?
Without faceplanting the floor, that is
 
@Compass nom nom
 
I should buy that.
I think it's $15 or something on amazon
 
3:05 PM
not a bad price for a cheesy decoration :-D
 
its not cheesy
its a body double
 
How big is it?
 
I will use it to escape from hoomans. They are unable to tell difference.
Probably the same size as me.
10 inches in length
a cubic foot of pure consumption.
 
that's 25cm in sensible units right?
 
30cm x 30cm x 30cm I'd assume
it'd fit in that.
Today is a chicken day!
 
3:21 PM
but it's 10.5!
and also has whiskers and ears
 
Handsome doggo, @Compass
 
.EXE
doggo.EXE
 
3:41 PM
@SmokeDetector do we close that Q?
both other answers are LO at the least
 
user4639281
@Adriaan question seems on-topic tho
 
user4639281
It just happens to have received two non-answers and a spam answer.
 
I always get suspicious of one-line questions
 
are pings broken for everyone? For me it makes the noise sometimes and does not make the noise sometimes
 
I'm skeptical of the question
 
3:44 PM
mainly because not even the effort to explain better what they are looking for, or what they have already tried (though that last one is not a close reason) has been put into the question
 
user4639281
@Adriaan There's nothing wrong with one-liner questions if only a single line is required to ask an on-topic answerable non-duplicate programming question.
 
@TinyGiant see my last comment; mainly the effort part irks me
anyhow, I have to go now, see you all tomorrow
 
user4639281
@Adriaan Does it matter? They're asking how to perform a specific task. I don't see how any research or problem solving effort would make the question any more helpful for future readers. What it needs is a useful answer. Unless it is a duplicate of course.
 
user4639281
It looks like a common question. One commonly answered using link only answers.
 
user4639281
It looks like the common resolution is that you cannot do that reliably, if you do figure out how to do that you're violating google terms of service, and any solution is going to be temporary.
 
user4639281
3:54 PM
Regardless, I haven't seen one with a decent answer yet, so there are no duplicate closure's in order. I'd say just leave them.
 
user4639281
Wait a minute, here's one with an actual answer, nonsensically closed as off-topic because asking for an off-site resource.
 
@TinyGiant this question smells of too broad to me. Not sure if the answer agrees or disagrees with me.
 
user1593881
4:12 PM
Sup y'all?
 
Hey
 
user1593881
4:35 PM
How does one speed up the 30 days notice period?
 
user1593881
Without flipping the tables, birds or ending up in court.
 
user1593881
Legally, that is.
 
sure just speak with'em all comes down to $
 
user1593881
Who pays whom in that case?
 
user1593881
4:39 PM
If at all.
 
user1593881
On the bright side, seems like the damage done to the atmosphere is irreversible.
 
@RawN what period?
 
user1593881
30 days notice.
 
5:01 PM
yeah notice of what
 
user1593881
Ending a job contract.
 
user1593881
From an employee side.
 
@RawN What country?
 
@RawN You pay them, to leave before time, you make and agreement and all ok (
 
user1593881
@Machavity Eer, that would be confidential. @PetterFriberg Thanks.
 
user1593881
5:15 PM
@PetterFriberg One can only pay them in shellfish shells right now.
 
In Italy and Sweden you can do it, basically normally you refrain from getting a salary, vacation (that you have not done) etc, it's enough that the parties agree. Since you like to leave before, you need to convince'em and that is normally done by you not requesting something that they need to pay when you leave
 
user1593881
I see.
 
@PetterFriberg It could come down to ₤ tho...
 
In Italy for example when you leave, you have the rights to x months pay depedning on how many month you have worked, so you say I need to leave now, so I don't take those, ok?, normally the other firm pays those, but clearly the company that you work for needs to agree
 
user1593881
Ok.
 
Let's all go through the transcript to clear out the lingering cv-pls messages! \o/
 
Over one full page :(
 
I see 45 with my search :-P
 
5:52 PM
OK
 
Should this be closed as no repro or lacks mcve?
 
o/
 
user4639281
o/
 
5:58 PM
on a side note. while away i finally crossed 30K (takes a bow) #wreckit
rene just beat me to it. lol
 
@NathanOliver lacks mcve
 
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