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12:00 AM
if I were to disclose your email, your real name (you entered), your current IP or anything like that - that'd be an issue...
 
@JonClements Well, these wouldn't be an issue as they're quite public on the internet anyway ^^
But for most people, yes.
 
perhaps - but I'm bound by being a mod to not do so - regardless of how public you make them otherwise
you can choose to make 'em as available as you want - mods and staff won't
 
yeah, I got your point.
 
@JonClements You've got poor restrictions, Being a P'lice man isn't fun actually :P
@JonClements Have a Schnaps?
 
I don't view them as restrictions - the info. has to be "somewhere" and you need to trust those with that "info" to not share them.
It's trust.
because you can/do something doesn't mean you should blah blah blah
 
12:05 AM
@JonClements I trust you more than you can think of. Giving me that safe feeling :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Well, he could singlehandedly (AFAIK?) destroy your account … so you have to trust him with your whole online presence (on SO) [auf Gedeih und Verderb ausgliefert :-D]
 
@bwoebi technically yes - practically no...
translate: auf Gedeih und Verderb ausgliefert
(from German) triggered at the mercy
how about we stick to English please?
 
@bwoebi Not single singlehandedly AFAIK, but heavily counted. These are our mods, don't bother them.
 
@JonClements I do in general, I just didn't know the idiomatic expression in English
 
@bwoebi unless we need to intervene we don't
 
12:09 AM
@JonClements I understood them well :)
 
and when we do - it's nothing to be scared of... we'd prefer to de-escalate any issues and get things back on track - if worst comes to worst, we'll use the tools we need to do... but otherwise, a few words here and there are more than what's needed... understand?
 
Sure, I'm just talking about could. I'm absolutely sure and certain that first everything gets solved in a friendly way.
 
That's what being "moderate" is about
3
 
Yep.
 
we just happen to have some abilities to fall back on when diplomacy fails
which I personally find very disappointing when I've had to do that
but hey ho - what I signed up for
 
12:18 AM
@JonClements I never want to disappoint puppies, that's so sad :/
 
It's already quite disappointing to have to close questions of other people. They sometimes come here with an actual problem, but fail to articulate themselves properly; their question is closed and they leave again.
 
@bwoebi Life is frickin hard, and gets harder all the time :P
 
@bwoebi depends on the Q - you have to have some sympathy for the people that moderate this site and are keen to ensure its quality.
While at the same time - I do have concerns sometimes it does appear to be beating up new users.
 
Especially as a more inexperienced person it's quite hard to express themselves to describe what they need.
@JonClements I do, and they're typically doing a fine job.
 
@bwoebi isn't that why anyone can edit anyone's post?
 
12:21 AM
if you think a post is salvageable - edit it!
 
^ Good (fair) point
 
I just also feel some sympathy towards those legitimate people … who usually do not even know the right keywords to search for.
Editing is great. But at some point I'd have the question rewritten completely.
 
@bwoebi true... but I don't have that for someone who can put their first line into Google and already get answers
 
@bwoebi Google is frickin' hard, and the SE search facilities are poor
 
@JonClements I absolutely don't talk about these…
 
12:24 AM
@bwoebi the RO team is very good here at making sure users aren't mentioned (and thus potentially bullied etc...)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Usually if I don't find something on google, that's because nobody has written about it yet. … But to be honest, that's also quite specific edge case topics.
the only thing google is abysmal at is some keywords (as they're really soooo generic) and symbols.
For everything else, people are sometimes lacking experience to make sense of what they find with google.
@JonClements RO = Room Owners? Or what do you mean here?
 
the former
anyway - I'm off to bed - long long day
 
@JonClements bye o/
 
@JonClements Then I'm missing context… we weren't talking about chat here? … anyway, sleep well :-)
 
12:31 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ what's the background of your name? Annoying people with weird chars or something more sophisticated?
 
@JonClements Sleep tight beloved puppy
 
@bwoebi Read my profile, its all explained there.
 
Has anyone a 74LS189 64bit RAM IC laying around? Just by any change :P
 
12:33 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ I've already read that; I rather questioned why you're using it as display name
 
@Rizier123 I don't, and definitely not for a change.
 
@bwoebi Its good as is
 
@πάνταῥεῖ My only thought is… Good that you don't log into SE by display name … would be probably quite annoying to type on a German keyboard…
 
@bwoebi intentional
 
@πάνταῥεῖ well… if you're masochist, you could use unicode chars in your mail address…
 
12:38 AM
@bwoebi I'm not going that far ;)
 
oooooh!
 
speaking of πάντα ῥεῖ's username, @πάνταῥεῖ do the letters in your username represent "panta rei"?
 
@dorukayhan candidate won 100 pts at 1st shot
:)
 
12:57 AM
@dorukayhan Not really, it's easy to handle in all situations here.
Many users prooved and passed
Check this out for example.
 
@dorukayhan hahaha :)
 
1:25 AM
@AndrewL. Oh I even wasn't aware that I've been answering myself there LOL. Just when checking the 2nd time.
 
Should we disallow Greek characters in user names? — Rad Lexus Mar 7 at 13:30
(no.)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ huh?
 
@AndrewL. You didn't mean that?
 
2:00 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ what do you mean I didn't mean what?!
 
@AndrewL. I don't know what you meant?
 
Is there any way to change edit summary after edit?
What do you mean? lol
> Oh I even wasn't aware that I've been answering myself there LOL.
wat
 
@AndrewL. I meant that in context of
1 hour ago, by dorukayhan
speaking of πάντα ῥεῖ's username, @πάνταῥεῖ do the letters in your username represent "panta rei"?
 
user1593881
My efforts on fighting the assignment questions on Meta went south. I was advised to post a feature request on the subject but my motivation to do so also went south.
 
@RawN Go north then
 
user1593881
2:04 AM
Will someone request a feature to "ban the trivial assignment question" on my behalf?
 
Not sure that's how it works...
 
@RawN No. Its unlikely. The tools we have at hand are powerful enough as mentioned.
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ I appreciate your efforts and comments on the subject.
 
@RawN De nada. (they don't pay me a frickin cent for this :( )
 
user1593881
Haha. Yet.
 
user1593881
2:11 AM
Instead of posting on meta I will ask here: Will there be a "Avoid posting assignment questions with trivial problems." or similar wording in the help section?
 
user1593881
Do excuse my English as it is my 2nd language.
 
@RawN The homework topic already was discussed ad nauseam. Homework questions can't be sorted out by automated algos, nor these are off-topic in general (same for the ubiquitous online code judge engine stuff). They'll need to be handled individually. This chat room may be helpful to do so. The more if you already have a close voting privilege yourself. Though we appreciate any hints here.
@RawN NP english his my 3rd language actually (1st is bavarian, 2nd is german)
 
user1593881
Something surely can be done to at least deter people from asking such question.
 
@RawN Your primary privilege is downvoting, do it.
 
downvoting questions is even free
 
2:16 AM
Also you can flag already, do it
 
@RawN those questions in the past have been deemed more or less OK on meta before IIRC
 
@TylerH Hey your alternator worked :)
 
ah, sniped by @πάνταῥεῖ
@πάνταῥεῖ yeah after the mechanic replaced it with a new one
this one has a lifetime warranty
makes me wonder if I should just take it with me when I get rid of this car
 
too bad cars use different parts
 
2:17 AM
@TylerH whose lifetime? :)
 
user1593881
I see. In my view that's the biggest problem when it comes to noise on SO. Assignment questions are just noise.
 
user1593881
Or at least the ones that reinvent the wheel over and over again. Noise.
 
@JonClements mine
well, I guess, effectively, the company
@RawN yes but the company has clearly signaled that that kind of noise is OK
it wants more users rather than more quality
that's how it makes money
Does anyone here use a password manager?
 
user1593881
@TylerH I hear that.
 
Specifically one other than LastPass or Keepass?
 
2:19 AM
@TylerH there's already ways to easily get rid of such posts...
 
@RawN Yeah, these are just noise, true. I even heard yesterday some mods appeal at profs to deem down their students doing so.
 
@JonClements if you really wanna easily get rid of such posts, let's re-add "lacks minimal understanding" ;-)
reason I ask about password managers is businessinsider.com/…
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ I would buy those mods a beer.
 
@TylerH You'll get a new car now? Its easy, you don't need to pay the whole price at once.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I've been saving for a new car for a while
this one is 16 years old
 
2:22 AM
@RawN I would buy them a chest of beer + a bottle of whiskey.
@TylerH Probably not worth the efforts and cost of repair
 
user1593881
I think I should delete this post of mine on Meta on the subject. While I appreciate all the response I regret the second comment from a mod animuson. What do you think?
 
A 16 year old Mercedes won't be a problem though.
 
user1593881
Downvotes certainly suggest I should do so.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ well, considering a new car is gonna be 20 to 30k and repairs/maintenance on this one are typically $60 to $300 two or three times a year, yeah it's worth it
 
@RawN It's not really a problem on Meta. No one looses rep, and being disagreed is also a useful overall statement.
 
2:26 AM
I'm not relying on this car having any real value when I trade it in/get rid of it
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ I have doubts my wording is appropriate.
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ In that post.
 
user1593881
Meh, live and learn.
 
@TylerH Consider buying an old Mercedes Benz
These seem to be indestructible
@RawN Nothing wrong with the wording as far I could see
@RawN Downvotes on Meta are different.
@TylerH And old ones are comparably cheap
 
2:41 AM
How did Jon Skeet get 325k rep in 2 years o_o
 
@AndrewL. Just by being a slacker
 
@AndrewL. rep cap each day + accepts from answers + bounties + any docs rep he got
 
Even when Jon Skeet slacks, he beats my attempt at reaching rep cap
 
Seems to be the most productive way to earn anything (money included) Prominent example is Donald Trump :P
 
Lol
 
2:45 AM
Sad but true
Oops I didn't manage to delete the train wreck :/
@Queen k
Oh wingman again.
Is it a test feature?
 
3:07 AM
I find it funny how the spammer tries so hard :P
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ We sure did. I am putting a stop on that subject.
 
@RawN It'll be closed. Lets see what we can do here.
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ I got a chronic fatigue two years ago. Recovered for the best part. Learning C++ was one of the ways to get better. I bet you didn't know that.
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ And an instant job offer in SE Europe as a side effect.
 
I'm in a chronic fatigue as long I could think back. Learned to live with it.
I'm almost sure winding is a test feature.
 
3:15 AM
Also an edit to reject there ^
 
Manually reported?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ We don't talk about a particular person in here so they're not encouraged. :)
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by hichris123
Smokey should've gotten around to that eventually...
 
@RawN In the recent years I got recurring tinnitus on top.
 
I just sped up the process. :)
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ Got that too, from my Delphi years
 
user1593881
3:18 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Not a biggie.
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ Exactly
 
3:38 AM
that's spam
 
Oh really? That counts as spam?
I mean, I guess it's promotion...
Ohh, didn't see link >.<
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ Stalked you on fb.
 
o_o
 
@RawN That's fine, don't worry
@RawN The geckos are gone meanwhile unfortunately :/
 
user1593881
@πάνταῥεῖ Gotcha.
 
3:50 AM
@RawN I'm a lazy idiot, yes. Don't put fingers in my open wounds please :(
 
user1593881
Nah, I think your work here on SO is amazing. You should value your reps more.
 
@tripleee cv as unclear? guessing is never good :P
 
@AndrewL. with your comment, we have covered the interpretations so far I think
and with keeping Tiny Giant's recent rants in mind, I wanted to err more on the side of plausibly answerable
 
4:07 AM
pfft he's not here
 
Ok :)
 
set the world on fire!!!
 
!!!
 
three exclamation marks so you know it's legit
 
Wow I met Captain Proto. World is small :P
 
4:11 AM
When you ninja Smokey
I hate when the OP never gets back :(
 
@AndrewL. oh come on, how am I supposed to improve my sweetness if you report the posts sharing the secrets?!
 
:P
 
4:29 AM
Spam seems to peak at my nighttime
 
:33033647 k
 
Am I spamming too many CV-pls's?
 
@AndrewL. I don't think there is a problem yet, I tend to post them in bursts myself (and worry a bit just like you, but nobody ever complained)
 
@tripleee ok :)
 
as long as you limit yourself to the ones which you think would not otherwise get closed
 
4:32 AM
Waffle
 
for example, if there's one on the front page which already got three cv:s, posting it here is probably completely superfluous
 
Ok
 
that last one seems like a prime example of that -- posted three minutes ago
 
On the mobile app, posts that are deleted still show up for a few minutes after deletion, a bit annoying
 
and a support request
 
4:35 AM
@tripleee how would you cv credentials?
Hmm, ok
 
4:53 AM
Definitely spam
 
5:06 AM
morning
 
\o
 
@ColdFire what's your local time right now? (seems I forgot to go to bed)
 
10:37 AM
 
07:10 AM here right now LOL
 
5:11 AM
lol
 
@ColdFire You're from Punjab IIRC?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ nope MH btw how do you know punjab
 
@ColdFire Mystical smoke
MH means what? I'm stoopid ya know
 
Maharashtra it is there even in my profile @πάνταῥεῖ
 
It's 12:19 AM here so, good morning :)
 
5:21 AM
@ColdFire Nosing. I see it's just more south. Do you like youtube.com/watch?v=9QZOHzWLF9w ? It's one of my favs.
@Shadow Almost braze faced
@ColdFire I should consider to take a trip to India at my old days. I ever was interested somehow, but never managed. I had lot of contacts professionally, but just along phone or video conferences. I'm very interested in Kerala (which is even more south),, I read interesting novels staging there.
 
5:41 AM
@ColdFire Reading a bout the plain numbs, India is a universe at its own compared to little bavaria =P
 
clearly spam - random gibberish with a link
 
@πάνταῥεῖ nice
@πάνταῥεῖ yeah india is nice and bigger than bavaria
 
@ColdFire I'm just baffled when digging deeper
 
@πάνταῥεῖ visit india anytime you want :)
 
@ColdFire Its Bavaria
 
5:48 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ i read that wrong :D
 
Now you got it :)
@ColdFire Yeah, I'm considering more and more. I've got a lot of stories told by my Ex-Wife who was travelling there in her youth days (blonde european women travelling alone, what a silly idea). But it really sounds interesting to explore another universe filled up with millions of other humans.
She achieved everything well despite the silly idea BTW
 
i see nice
 
Hey spearrel
 
Plop! =D
 
blob @Kyll
 
6:03 AM
!ploP
@ColdFire Are you from Mumbai bigger area?
Ah and you debt me an answer about that Koola Shaker song :)
@tripleee Smells like spam
 
@πάνταῥεῖ huh? I don't see how it promotes anything, it looks to me like "I'm having a related problem, please help"
 
@πάνταῥεῖ i hate mumbai , i am in pune near mumbai
 
@tripleee Yeah OK, when I looked second time
@ColdFire Mumbai must be like a moloch, over 12 million people that's incredible
And I don't believe all of them living in regular flats :/
 
6:30 AM
That's such a weird XY problem, even the inventor of the format discourages OP to use it, while it seems to be perfect for their needs.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ so should we be doing something about that question? can it be clarified?
 
@tripleee I have no clue TBH
 
Aloha
 
6:54 AM
@Tunaki started his career on SE : )
 
I hate how I have no privileges on SE.
35k user can't do shit on there.
 
7:15 AM
yello
 
@Tushar bello
 
o/
 
@PetterFriberg can't see image :(
Hiya
 
this answer feels very much as a link-only, purely delivered to get the bounty
 
7:31 AM
@Tushar POB/TB/No MCVE all fit
:33036841 pure text based JS poo
I think
 
hence, why not use this product!
 
@PetterFriberg that contains a lot of SEOs, why hasn't Will come out of the PC to slap him?
 
@sudomakeinstall2 Requesting for off-site resource(tutorial)
 
plagiarized answer stackoverflow.com/a/39592828/874188 <- what's the procedure here? flagged and commented
@PetterFriberg ^ from this question
 
7:38 AM
@tripleee flagging + commenting should be enough
 
is not an answer allowed here?
 
1 message moved to Trash can
@DalijaPrasnikar That cannot be deleted
 
@sudomakeinstall2 where?
 
@tripleee nice find...
 
7:42 AM
@sudomakeinstall2 in this room, we typically don't comment on unless there is something to discuss
 
no I mean should I report not an answer here or just close votes?
 
@Tunaki Why not? Too early? I am still picking up all the rules...
 
@sudomakeinstall2 oh sorry, I completely misunderstood your question
 
@sudomakeinstall2 answer just flag'em no need to report
 
@sudomakeinstall2 no, just cv-pls. Only report NAA if your flag has been invalidated by an edit, then you can ask for a reflag
 
7:44 AM
@DalijaPrasnikar Yeah. Deletion can only occur when the post was closed for more than 2 days, or is at <=-3. Alternatively, if you don't see the "delete" link, there's a good chance it can't be :)
 
@sudomakeinstall2 Check out the FAQ for more info.
 
@Tunaki Since I am below 20K I don't see delete link on questions that can be deleted by 20K users, so I am guessing.... thanks for the info
 
@sudomakeinstall2 also WELCOME!
 
For 20Kers, there's only the <=-3 score condition which is added
 
@sudomakeinstall2 ironical, isn't it
but the duplication there is being contested; apparently, the OP (also) cannot figure out how to check whether a string contains multiple uppercase characters
 
@Squazz hello! please tag it like the above messages, adding [tag:cv-pls] to your message. See also socvr.org/faq#how-and-why-do-i-need-to-format-my-cv-pls
 
@Squazz Of what question?
 
@Tunaki noted, will do
 
Found it.
 
8:10 AM
@PatrickHofman added a new comment as I could see that was not apparent
 
@sudomakeinstall2 Try not to post too many cv-pls, we only have limited capabilities here. See also rule #2 here socvr.org/faq
especially that you don't have close vote yourself
 
@Tunaki Oh, I see :)
 
@AshishAhujaツ I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
could someone give me a link to the US which provides keyboard shortcuts in the cv queue? I'm tired of clicking the mouse again and again
 
8:23 AM
thanks!
 
Like this @Tunaki? :)
 
@Squazz This one seems a bit strange I can't judge which way the dupe's should go...
 
Ashish Ahuja ツ passed a audit!
 
@PetterFriberg I'd say the one that posted last is the dupe?
 
@Squazz meeh I would like to have the best answers.. best question...
and duping a question of Will would be fun :D
 
8:28 AM
@PetterFriberg See, that's one thing I don't understand ;) If a question is asked, and I later ask the same question, but better, aren't I still asking a dupe question?
 
I'm not sure on this (we need to search meta), I'm more for user experience, hence the best question and answer should be the target...
it has little sense to hit a question seeing it's a dupe, go to that question, no good answers, return to previous questions etc...
 
@PetterFriberg @Squazz Indeed. The other post has better answers. Voted to close the question of Will.
 
@Squazz yes perfect!
 
@PatrickHofman Then just wait for the response of Will :D, he will probably accept if he agre, or we will hear Thunder!
 
@Tunaki thank you :)
 
8:35 AM
@Tunaki It's me accepting one of your edits with the text "Tunaki had 1 edit suggestion approved" :D,
 
:)
 
@PetterFriberg Sure
 
Send some over...
 
I know @PetterFriberg those two was my last duplicate cv-pls requests for today :)
 
8:38 AM
np, just saying... it's easy to get carried away...
 
@PetterFriberg sure is, especially when you have a lot of flags just sitting there waiting :)
 
Yeah tell me about it!, I flagged in low-traffic tag, everything just aged away...
 
Once I get enough rep to help with that I'm gonna do my part @PetterFriberg
 
Since I don't have close vote privilege, flagging posts which are reported here isn't gonna help closing them, is it?
 
@Squazz Ooh yeah pay back time :D, Maybe when @BhargavRao have some time he can take a look at the Python stuff..
 
8:42 AM
@sudomakeinstall2 no doing that isn't going to help as long as they have a cv on it
 
I guess the votes @sudomakeinstall2 is throwing is going to get him closer to the marshall badge?
 
They count towards that badge yes. But think of it as a side-effect of flagging bad stuff for closure.
 
Hiya
 
If you have time to review and flag stuff we are testing bots in other room (but you need auto comments and only flag really bad stuff)
 
@PetterFriberg was that directed to me or @sudomakeinstall2?
 
8:47 AM
Well to both of you, @sudomakeinstall2 also have edit priv and there is tons of post that needs edit :D
 
Nah he talks to himself, don't listen to him really, just nod and smile :p.
 
I might wanna help with that later today. ATM I gotta focus just a little on work @PetterFriberg ;)
@Tunaki smiles and waves
 
@Kyll tp
 
@PetterFriberg fp
 
8:51 AM
@Kyll Kyll is a nice guy!
 
so sneaky
 
Ha :p
 
haha
 
!!/location
 
@Henders Raspberry Pi
 
8:58 AM
It works :O
 
You can even have some coffee if you like
 
Welp
 

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