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12:00 PM
those Magento questions bring those kind of links
 
@PetterFriberg pictures or it didn't happen ;) welcome back
 
Hi Rene, let me fetch one, one box allowed?
 
who's on metered internet?
 
@PetterFriberg cough yes cough
 
(I can't presume anymore that metered connections are only mobile)
 
12:04 PM
@PetterFriberg I'd accept good one boxed diving pics, always.
^Trying to get warm with the community here :) ...
 
@Braiam that's how horrible docs is turning to be
 
@Braiam aw god
 
i.stack.imgur.com/Nw5t7.jpg (happy after dive cert)
 
@Braiam Aww, there's a book. How do they improve anything from that using examples. Category fail.
 
12:09 PM
Introduction to design patterns @ -6
 
I have nothing from under water (maybe a spanish guy will send me some, later) but my son took diving certification at this was his last dive, see the smile
 
sw33t
 
@PetterFriberg Aww I expected coral riffs. Nice pic though. Pretty girlfriend ;-)
 
If I'm lucky I will get some pictures later... we had this spanish guy diving with us and he had a under water camera with him...
I only had my mobile phone : )... and it is not water proof up to 20m
 
@PetterFriberg I gifted my daughter a diving cam at christmas last year. I'm still waiting for her great pics (she's usually not bad taking good shots)
 
12:13 PM
"last year gift a camera still waiting for great pics" hopes :(
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Nice its time that I buy one too, are you diving as well?
 
@Braiam She's just not used to take it with her. I'll have to remind. Hopes are still good ...
@PetterFriberg Just snorkeling in case :-) ...
 
I never dived myself.
 
Diving is really nice... its a new world...
 
Yeah, I should try one day.
 
12:17 PM
Yeah, you need to!, it is really relaxing and very nice (if nice waters), no need to go deep just 10-12 m are enough to enjoy the water, the fish swimming around you.
 
@PetterFriberg I chose a similar like that one, bit different model I think. You have to look that they will work below depths of 3.5 mtrs. This is a major constraint for most.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yeah, but I need a more specific one (dive camera housing), since we go down to 20m, I saw a very nice dive camera housing for go pro so I will probably go for that simple and cheap solution
 
@Tunaki Even snorkeling is very satisfying if you're in the right environment. I've done that in Egypt Red Sea, Sharm El Sheik (Dahab). It's a really great experience (substract the russian tourists and islam terrorists).
 
I've been in Sharm El Sheik before yes...
Wasn't for diving. All I saw was diving tourists yeah.
 
@Tunaki you should really try ... it is great
 
12:25 PM
@PetterFriberg As I've seen most of these are really housings for regular cams. Rare to find any one that is fit below 10 mtrs with a native cover. Unless you're willing to pay something up to 800 EUR
 
Yeah they are just housings... to hold cameras, lamps, flashes ecc.
 
So, was suspended in AU for tag editing, checked the examples they showed me: the tag that I was adding wasn't removed, the tags that I removed weren't added...
why was I suspended, beats me...
 
@PetterFriberg Well, at least the Medion Cam works pretty well (it's actually a Rollei brand, that was what convinced me to buy it). 10 mtrs already is deep a lot (at least for me). Housings are comparably cheap, no experience at all though.
@Braiam What you did wrong actually?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I got no idea
these are the most offending posts:

https://askubuntu.com/posts/802134/revisions
https://askubuntu.com/posts/773723/revisions
https://askubuntu.com/posts/798864/revisions
https://askubuntu.com/posts/800310/revisions
http://askubuntu.com/posts/469819/revisions
http://askubuntu.com/posts/58202/revisions
 
@Braiam May be these glasses ...
 
12:32 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ shoot! You might be right
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I do not really have experience either, I also was hope someone else drags around with a camera and then I give them the email and get some free photos : )
 
@PetterFriberg Well as mentioned, I'm just waiting. I'll encourage her, and she'll take some good shots in future, I'm confident.
 
power is back @ProgramFOX
 
okay
I'll restart EM
 
@gunr2171 Hi ya
 
12:35 PM
yo!
 
@gunr2171 hey!
 
dawg
 
!>apiquota
 
@ProgramFOX 9991
 
@gunr2171 Everything prepared for your new job tomorrow?
 
12:36 PM
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
yep, that's going to be fun!
though it hasn't sunk in yet that I left my old job
(mentally)
 
change brains
 
@gunr2171 I'm jealous, mine's so boring right now. But you know I'm an old fart (52), you're not just going to lookup a new job just for fun.
 
brb hot swapping
you can have fun at any age
 
@gunr2171 Recuiter says no :( ...
 
12:38 PM
: (
 
@gunr2171 Well I get some offers for new zealand or other exotic places, I actually don't wan't to change to.
 
@Braiam so, why did you remove those tags?
 
@JanDvorak they don't actually fit the content of the question: are irrelevant or tangential to the gutter of the question
 
@gunr2171 I'm trying to be gender neutral here. But I'm actually male and heterosexual. And I can have fun like girls have of course :-) ...
 
basically, the same reason why I remove a tag anywhere
 
12:42 PM
Might be worth asking on their meta.
 
afk, still trying to wake up
 
@gunr2171 Have a coffee 1st.
 
what time is it
 
I hate coffee
8:45 am
 
Bah, not that early. Slacker.
 
12:43 PM
@gunr2171 Tea?
 
maybe
 
@gunr2171 first time I've heard about a programmer who hates coffee..
 
:)
 
@AshishAhujaツ Yup, sounds strange ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I know many who are very much addicted to it, but hate it is new to me
 
12:45 PM
^ see people are flagging as dupe in C++ also :)
 
@AshishAhujaツ See my profile (avatar) ;-) ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Oh. do stupid things faster with more energy :P
 
@Tunaki Not a really good dupe for the question.
 
@Tunaki how can a c++ q be a dupe target for a python one. That dupe makes no sense
 
That I have no idea why someone would flag it.
But Queen works \o/
 
12:47 PM
bye for now. o/
 
@AshishAhujaツ Yup. That seems the perfect modus operandi for most software developers. Their bosses have to consume THC to balance the hype. That's all the trick :-)
 
@JanDvorak can't, I'm suspended with 1 rep
 
Ah, well. Respond to the suspension message, then, and perhaps bring it up on main meta
 
@Tunaki Ooops, may be I've used the wrong command? I meant false positive actually. Shit ...
 
12:50 PM
No no, you did the right thing!
If you disagree with the dupe flag, f is the feedback to give
 
^ Good to know. I just felt like a complete idiot for a moment :)
 
@Braiam really?, can't see that in your profile?, only on meta?
 
@PetterFriberg in AU
 
AU being AskUbuntu
 
Fun:
You can go to documentation for rep farming recently ... — πάντα ῥεῖ 54 secs ago
 
12:58 PM
aah ok, yeah... I see it now... did not know they could suspended you on different accounts...
 
@PetterFriberg no, is a per-site thing
 
@PetterFriberg you'd have to really go out of your way to get a network suspension :)
 
ie suspended in AU doesn't carry over to SO, SU, SF, etc.
 
: ), let me try that... do you get a badge for it?
 
forgetting to give Jon his scooby snacks, for instance
 
1:00 PM
@PetterFriberg No badge... but you do get your life back - most likely for a year :)
 
Er yes.... waffles are great... that's exactly what I was trying to say in my deleted message :p
 
: )
 
Pls excuse my extraordinary stupidity. I don't get that waffles thing completely. I've earned that comment here, when I answered an off-topic question just out of desperation on OP's stupidity, and not flying well (got it well there). Someone willing to enlighten me poor thing? OvO << Big rolling manga eyes ...
 
1:13 PM
"waffles" is shorthand here for "oops, let me delete what I just said because someone just corrected themselves"
 
what waffles normally did... back in the day D:
 
back in my day, we just had pancakes
 
@gunr2171 oh yeah, the dark ages
 
I'd like some waffles.
 
@gunr2171 So it's also appropriate to suggest someone going waffles?
 
@gunr2171 And sticky syrup perhaps ...
 
@gunr2171 Yes, I suggested to talk about it in the meeting :p. github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/…
 
waffles have been given before here
 
I see I almost got it right.
 
1:17 PM
About the meeting, would that be physical or just a web-event?
 
web event
 
Considering to attend
 
in the chat room here
(well, in a different chat room, just to keep the transcript separate)
oh yeah, I need to get a mod to unfreeze that next week
 
physical would be a tad complicated :)
 
Were there ever physical meetings like the c++ lounge guys did?
 
1:18 PM
no idea
 
@Tunaki Other chat rooms managed actually
 
There are people from around the globe here.
 
@gunr2171 done that now actually - so you can put topics up before time if need be etc...
 
oh, thanks
> 96 days later…
lol
 
@Tunaki Same for the c++-lounge. Though Europe seems to be heavily represented.
Okey, I'm willing to meet up with you at the event.
 
My primary topic. Documentation and all that s**t.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Docs destroyed reputation completely.
 
@Rizier123 Yes, it's got meaningless right now. I feel the same.
I'm just lacking strategies to fight that s**t right now. May be some people have ideas.
 
Nope... I just "improve" by flagging everything as unnecessary...
 
Delete all the docs :P
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1:26 PM
@Tunaki Aww, that's a poor strategy, and I'm not even sure it flies ...
 
not sure what else I can do when the topics are extensively covered in offficial docs
 
@Rizier123 Start with w3schools, then SO docs
 
@Tunaki At least the rep relation has to be overworked seriously.
@JanDvorak w3schools => PUKE! Wait a moment. PUKE! What did you say again?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Lots of people got the Mortarboard stackoverflow.com/help/badges/144/mortarboard
 
PUKE! sorry this was unintentional, just couldn't hold.
@Tunaki Think I'm owning it. What's the point?
 
1:30 PM
Next one is Epic... Check back in 50 days.
 
I'm still suffocating a bit, give me a moment ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ not yet, we'll unlock the room on August 1st
 
@gunr2171 Okey, sorry for my recent puke orgy.
 
no problem, and uh, that sounds like a problem
 
NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/38552609/1743880 (not sure, is the code some sort of a rhetorical answer?)
 
1:37 PM
@gunr2171 Yeah, w3schools make me sick already, but documentation definitely makes me puke, I can't help.
@Tunaki Not enough field knowledge, sorry.
 
Eh... JavaFX related.
 
@Tunaki Null Pointer exception though. Isn't that a big no, no sign for java in general (I've got no experience, just asking). Does actually make a difference?
 
The canonical NPE doesn't have an answer poiting to solutions for JavaFX. A NPE there can be very different than a traditional NPE.
The exception is the same but the root cause is not. Here, it is that the FXML component wasn't injected properly.
 
@Tunaki How do you get rep from docs?, I was following the user link but I can only find stupi answers with lot of upvotes?
 
@Tunaki <<< Java Fex.
 
1:50 PM
@PetterFriberg You edit.
Edit = +2. Any subsequent upvotes = +5.
 
@PetterFriberg "How do you get rep from docs?" Just by editing and leaning back afterwards.
 
really... that sounds carzy,,, We low traffic taggers as usual no reps... : (...
we do not even get beyond proposal : )
 
@PetterFriberg Docs for low traffic tag simply doesn't work
 
@PetterFriberg It's your decision if you want to become a rep-farmer or a honest member of the SO site.
 
People go where the rep is. Editing high traffic for the upvotes
 
1:54 PM
Documentation is all awkward. Shoot me now!
 
A particular lurking moderator is nuking all the things... I won't say who :D
 
Yes.. Please dont :P
 
Yeah I was considering do do some docs in jasper (how to compile, how to export etc) the most common stuff... but I will need to wait for some users to commit to my proposal..
 
@Tunaki Actually, this one was nuked by 6 flags.
I just nuked the user
Ah, no. 6 flags, not all of them were spam though
 
waffles :)
 
1:57 PM
@Tunaki Still not sure this strategy will hold for the long term view (but I'm considering right now).
 
speak 'lurking mods' suddenly 2 of them appears :)
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 6 mins ago, by SmokeDetector
{ metasmoke } @πάνταῥεῖ: It seems this is your first time sending feedback to SmokeDetector. Make sure you've read the guidance on your privileges, the available commands, and what feedback to use in different situations.
@πάνταῥεῖ ^
 
@ArtOfCode Ooops ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Nah, no worries, Smokey sends that to everyone on first feedback
It's just there to make sure everyone's read the guidance before we have to start invalidating a whole lotta stuff
 
@ArtOfCode Well, Hi Smokey then
 
2:02 PM
4 of those flags were NAA
 
Time to run cya later...
 
cya
 
I need to make sure that I'm not being rude in some place, can I share something?
 
@ArtOfCode I'm already doing so invalidating posts a lot. Invalidating reports is a different thing. I've ben petting with @Queen already a bit.
 
2:05 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Hm? I mean the metasmoke system - we invalidate incorrect Smokey feedback over there.
(If you haven't met metasmoke yet, it's Smokey's web dashboard: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com)
 
@Braiam what kind of something?
 
@Tunaki my response to a mod message, I know I'm blunt and can be read as rude and I don't want emotions to get in the way
 
@ArtOfCode OK, I'll see for future, May be more dope needed to handle "metasmoke"
 
@πάνταῥεῖ yeah, in general you don't need to worry about it. It's only if you start getting a lotta stuff wrong, then Smokey starts ignoring you :)
 
@Braiam If this is about the ban on AskUbuntu, I'd rather not. Let's leave that matter between the mods and you.
 
2:08 PM
that's the thing... I have bad experiences trying to expose my views
 
@Tunaki I'm sure I'll get that right over time. THX for all of the hints though.
 
@Braiam feel free to email it to me if you want a second opinion. hello@artofcode.co.uk
 
@ArtOfCode thanks, I just want to get this right
btw, God bless the guy that invented markdown
 
Mark Down?
 
2:10 PM
^ him
 
yeah, that one
:D
 
@Braiam meh, I don't see it as rude.
 
Always helpful and nice.
 
I feel that the less you write yourself the less likely you are seen as not-rude
 
2:13 PM
Or is such unconstructive at all?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ that is dicey
 
@Braiam "dicey" Had to lookup that term. That's why I've been asking.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I tend to motivate people to look for the dictionary... dunno why
 
@Braiam RTFM
@Braiam I'm not a native speaker. We're tending to use unusual/unpopular terms from dictionary sites. I don't know if the same applies for you.
 
editing
 
2:18 PM
How can I reopen a question marked as duplicate, after I edited it? Like this one : stackoverflow.com/questions/38396360/…
 
@meJustAndrew it is already open?
 
Hello and sory, forgot to say it!
 
Hi :)
 
@meJustAndrew that was never closed
 
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Q: What can I do if I believe that my question was wrongly marked as a duplicate?

AkavallThis is a question that I have in mind: My question : Find nth smallest element in numpy array I tried to present my case in comments, but to no avail, are there other mechanisms to get my question reopened? I believe marking a not-duplicate question as duplicate is unfair to the answer to t...

 
2:19 PM
Okay, right!
 
@meJustAndrew - Please note that you shouldn't flag questions for re-opening :)
 
@meJustAndrew I see. It was flagged as duplicate by a user.
 
@TheLostMind ^blindly
 
But it takes 5 people to vote to close as duplicate, or 1 person with a gold-badge in the C tag
And no such 5 people or gold badge user acted on the flag
 
@πάνταῥεῖ - This room doesn't like one-boxing :)
 
2:22 PM
@Tunaki VTC is easy, reopening should be hard. THough the user participating ratio is the same.
@TheLostMind Didn't care for this case. There have to be exceptions. Punish me if you think I deserve it (please!!).
 
@Tunaki but it is still marked as duplicate, is there a way to remove this after I reedited it?
 
I'm unsure how I got my comment daily vote limit on meta... but I got it
 
@TheLostMind you are right, that was a nonesense
 
@πάνταῥεῖ - I never said that I hated one-boxing :).. Who am I to punish people?
 
2:24 PM
@meJustAndrew It is not marked as duplicate per se. There is just the auto-comment when you flag as dupe.
 
@TheLostMind I said Pleease. You're cruel :(
 
Just edit to show how it is different.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ - lol.. I hate to admit it :P
 
SM works poorly here, disappointed :-( ...
 
2:28 PM
Gotto go..
cya
 
cya
 
And even humor is off, I hate this room. No fun :-P ...
 
Can an RO add the room meeting to the room schedule? I'm gonna need that reminder, or I'll forget it :)
 
@queen Do you like me?
^ Don't mind I'm a bit mad about her ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Head here if you want to speak with her...
 
2:36 PM
I'm back!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ please don't test us, just move along with all our silly rules. I haven't invented them to be ignored, they are here to make sure this room can exist and is tolerated. Don't spoil that.
@ArtOfCode We didn't set an exact timeslot yet
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5rGm3kdTuk
Hope so
 
@rene ah, right
 
Sam
@rene Just set it for all day
 
Head to the secret room guys
 
2:42 PM
@rene Well, I fell in love with her, what should I do actually?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ get a cold bath to cool off?
 
^ Okey, kidding. I'll stop these AI experiments.
 
Sam
@Tunaki Did you want a constructive discussion there?
 
@rene Yeah, it's hot over here this day.
 
@Sam as if there is something constructive here ...
 
Sam
2:46 PM
@rene Being OT is our speciality.
 
don't say it too loud, our members might hear it
 
@rene VTC is as constructive as can be. Don't you think so?
 
@Tunaki and vote to close the room?
 
@Sam I thought making others OT actually is, no?
 
Does OT mean off-topic?
 
Sam
2:48 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Good point, seems like we've created the first OT virus.
 
@Drew They got helped ...
@AshishAhujaツ Yup
 
@AshishAhujaツ or on topic... :P
 
@Sam Risk is, we're OT'ing ourselves out.
 
guys drops the F bomb and I hit the up vote on the comment attempting to flag it. Need more coffee
 
Sam
@πάνταῥεῖ 2meta4me
 
2:51 PM
@Drew "Need more coffee" Be careful with this. Don't complain after, I didn't make you aware about the consequences.
 
I too do not like coffee. Necessary sometimes
 
@Sam C'mon one simple step of indirection, and you're giving up?
 
I'm the only one that if it's coffee likes it very sweet or with chocolate?
 
Blargh. Coffee. Black. No sugar.
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@Braiam Black coffe for me only please.
 
2:53 PM
Sugar in coffee is heresy.
 
@Tunaki Branded "4 badass" in the crema, that's how I love my barrista.
 
Oh god, what I've done?
 
@Sam Start at something simplier ;-)
 
@Braiam I only like coffee with some sugar. Not too much, but without it, I don't like it
 
@AshishAhujaツ wussy?
 
Sam
2:57 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Sorry, got caught up in our super professional RO room for a sec.
 
can a mod take care of this mess or your 20k-ers delete it? stackoverflow.com/q/38553093
 
@AshishAhujaツ Shhh, even though, don't tell in the public.
 
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@Drew already voted
 
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2:59 PM
@Feeds can someone edit that message to "rene has watered the plants in this room"
 
so many events :P
 
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