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1:00 PM
lol
 
@Kyll We won one million dollars \o/.
 
\o/
 
So basically it's not a problem to prove that it's harder ?
 
More hardware for the bots \o/
 
Or is it ligther to prove that it's harder or ?
 
1:00 PM
I'd say all of the above due to quantum physics
 
morning
 
o/
 
\o
 
@Tunaki for real? Or are you joking lying?
 
1:02 PM
We don't do jokes.
 
mroning Plop ryan
 
@Kyll Is it bad that I understood that?
 
@ryanyuyu :D
 
Kevin o/
 
@Kyll Stop making jokes, they aren't allowed anymoar.
@KevinG \o
 
1:04 PM
@Tuna Am I not allowed to do jokes?
Plop @KevinGuan!
 
@Kyll Trick question. You'll explode the Kyll Bomb otherwise.
 
\o/
 
He has the room taken hostage.
 
I imagine the detonator button, big red button having title: PLOP!
 
and afk again
 
1:06 PM
wtf. 87 rep, a bazillon badges?
4
 
Tons of views on questions.
 
Yeah
 
Oh. He had 814 rep. Suddenly went down in a few months
And that 814 rep also because of serial voting.
 
@BhargavRao Got it.
And Plop guys!
 
1:09 PM
@AshishAhujaツ lost 740 due to serial voting. Otherwise since then asking shitty questions, hence a negative trend
 
Is that a hi or bye plop?
 
shitty is a bad word :)
(rofl)
 
@maythesource.com ..?
 
@Adriaan true
 
@Seth Sup?
I was in voc school today, no 'net there for most of it
What kind of off topic rant parade probably inspired by alcohol consumption and reckless kyll-tossing did you guys go on today?
 
1:12 PM
a good one
 
@KevinGuan Why don't you use the auto-comments. They're much better
@Magisch Right now I went on a rant troubling Seth...
 
Don't do that
shoo's @Ash away
 
Why? We were just having some fun...
 
@AshishAhujaツ Do not trouble Seth.
 
womp womp
@Tunaki Why?
 
1:14 PM
Let me handle the whiping.
 
Can someone link me to the script that lets you send a cv-pls as you CV a question, so that I can steal borrow learn from its code?
 
cheers
 
@Tunaki in that case: I'd like some whipped cream with my cake please.
 
@AshishAhujaツ Well, I do use that user-script. But I like the official comments better.
 
1:15 PM
@ArtOfCode Are you thinking of implementing my FR?
 
@ArtOfCode The repo contains all your wildest dreams
 
@Magisch yep, see CHQ
 
No. Ninja'd!
 
ffk
 
@Magisch Huh what's that?
 
1:16 PM
The MS API can provide the details I need, but to post to chat from a main site I need the chat fkey, which I don't appear to be able to find... hence, must look at something that does it.
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Magisch
FR: A userscript where if you open a flag dialog it checks if that post was reported here in the last 10 minutes and lets you feedback <postid>: k directly from the flag dialog. Possibly akin to the checkbox "also send cv-pls" in the SOCVR script.
 
@Magisch one-box alert!
 
Comment one boxes are OK IIRC
 
What should I do if someone asks the same question: stackoverflow.com/q/37726911/3933332 and I can't make the answer more obvious/simpler ?! ...
 
1:17 PM
cheers
 
@Magisch Yup
 
@Magisch :(
 
throws @Kyll at @Tunaki Hi tuna, btw
 
this.... isn't possible
if would mean the time continuum was broken
 
@Magisch I don't think that it's useful really, because: 1. It's hard to find a spam post without Smokey, because they always get burned quickly. 2. Even if you find one, I think people are already sent the feedback. SOCVR is always very active.
 
1:21 PM
and yes it was broken
 
@Rizier123 give up and move on, maybe to haskell or Algol....
 
hugs @Tuna
 
@KevinGuan This is not mainly for posts reported in SOCVR
 
waiting for response from tuna
 
Only the reports on SO are. Back over in Charcoal HQ, all network detected posts are.
I like throwing kyll
 
1:23 PM
@KevinGuan Sometimes posts on other sites were not much members are there, it might be useful
 
throw new (java.lang.KyllException)
 
@Magisch Flying spearrel?
 
@Magisch How would you feel if someone throws Kyll at you?
 
@AshishAhujaツ prickly
 
I would catch kyll, of course
 
1:24 PM
@AshishAhujaツ surprised
@Magisch Or would kyll catch you?
 
@Magisch but how will you feel? furious, happy, or what?
 
One would hope the answer would be yes, but... @TinyGiant, @Tunaki, and @rene - would you mind giving me some form of license to use this bit of code? I can't find a GM license header, or a license file in the repo.
 
hum
 
Shouldn't there be a license file??
 
@BhargavRao Well I don't know about other rooms then.
 
1:25 PM
@ArtOfCode Silly the answer is always 42
 
@ArtOfCode Probably WTFPL or that --v
2
 
@ArtOfCode the license could be waffles but let me consult the others ...
2
 
@AshishAhujaツ not necessarily - it's not compulsory to add one
 
I see. Most repo's have them, so I thought it was compulsory
 
I'm afraid only @tiny can provide that license but I'm not a lawyer
 
1:27 PM
@AshishAhujaツ To be a true open-source project you need to have one, but GH doesn't mandate them. A few of my projects don't.
 
@Magisch Not much, I needed backup. Ashish was trying to whip me with tuna :/
 
@rene whoever wrote that function is the one who needs to license it, unless you both assigned copyright to Tiny when you contributed.
 
@ArtOfCode I see. Sd has a license right?
 
@AshishAhujaツ Nah, my programs all don't have a license.
 
@AshishAhujaツ yeah, dual Apache 2/MIT
 
1:28 PM
okay
 
metasmoke is CC0
 
@rene Maybe I should do that. Haskell answers always get many upvotes :P
 
All code that I write is under the "The only thing you can't do with it is forbid other people from using it" license
 
@ArtOfCode Not even CC-BY? Nice
 
Not sure what thats called
 
1:29 PM
@ArtOfCode Bah. Tiny wrote it I guess.
 
@Magisch some form of copyleft license. I'd say GPL or CC BY-SA, but the former is more complicated and the latter isn't a software license.
@Kyll yep, straight to public domain
 
but I copy-pasted some code of his to other userscripts of mine...
 
@Tunaki copyright violation right there :)
 
Am I a criminal...? :(
 
Essentially it means you can do anything with it, don't need to credit me, and the only thing you can't is deny other people that freedom with my code
 
1:30 PM
Oh wow. There is a useful cat now in this room :P
 
@Tunaki you'll be contacted by my lawyers shortly ...
 
I know my software licensing... you'd sort of hope I would, being an OS mod
 
I got very tired of policing attribution requirements for my minecraft plugins, and people were constantly messaging me or annoying other people over my code
So I dropped all of that
 
@Tunaki Oh wait, just realized that I even changed one of his user-script to my edition...no I don't want to talk with rene's lawyers...
 
Don't worry about rene's lawyers... they're cats.
 
1:31 PM
@rene I got the picture of you doing the funk dance on the starboard no less then 3 times now :P
 
You can feed them and they'll go away.
 
@Tunaki Fine, mine are unicorns \o/
 
@Magisch most of my stuff is under MIT - keep any copyright notices already there intact, and you're good
 
Meh
I know some people who only write closed source and put DRM and that stuff in
But it sounds like extra work and less free debugging for no tangible benefit to me
 
I don't actually police it, but I figure that unless you're writing things like minecraft plugins, most dev communities are respectable enough to adhere to licenses to the best of their ability.
 
1:33 PM
Most of them credit anyways
Some scrub though wrote a very badly made mod and then put a very restrictive copyright on it and then went and looked for people who had (independently) written code that looked similar to his in certain places (pretty much unavoidable since McForge only lets you access certain things 1 way) and then tried to sue them for fun.
 
I wouldn't want to be a victim of a target like that then. It's really dangerous
 
I had to hand-delete about 90 different DMCA notices posted as thread reply to other people's mods over a passage of code which was ripped verbatim from the mcforge mod tutorial
 
My knowledge about licenses is as deep as a swamp.
 
Yeah... developing for minecraft is alright while you're writing the code and testing it on the server - servers tend to have communities who appreciate the devs (plus you have powah and can do literally anything and cover your tracks). Managing your completed plugins? Not fun.
 
Especially
When you write a chat manager plugin that works with bungeecord
and then 5 different server owners of large servers start making demands that I accomodate their very specific setup
despite none of them paying me a cent
 
1:40 PM
I did my plugins for the people who wanted them - the server owners who recruited me. When it supported them in everything they wanted, I went and released it open-source as a secondary concern. If it works for other people, great. If it doesn't... sorry, but tough - it wasn't developed for you specifically.
 
Was that a paid position?
 
I got 25% of whatever revenue we made. Ended up being less than 10 quid in the end, but... meh. It was fun.
 
What is quid?
 
£
GBP
 
1:43 PM
Pounds sterling
whatever you want to call 'em :)
 
I dropped the coding very shortly after my first plugin, and then went on to become a server sysadmin and moderator for minecraftforums.net for a while
 
Moderating minecraft forums does not sound like fun.
so much rage
so many ten year olds
 
And while moderating MCF was fun, SE has kind of spoiled me in terms of transparency, so now I see alot of it as really shady
 
angry ten year olds
 
About 3 people a week who were pedophiles soliciting children for ...
Yea
We had to report that to the owner who reported it to the police
 
1:45 PM
I had enough angry ten year olds on my server, but that was okay because dev powers let me shut 'em up without leaving a trace
 
We had "Penalty points"
Getting 3 put you out for a week
1 was a day
5 was a month, 7 was 3 months, and 10 was perma
Unless you had a perma, 1 point would age away every month
Things like CP, Pedophiles, Gore, Snuff, Doxxing, Viruses and weirdly enough cracked clients were instant 10 points
 
CP?
 
Copy Paste
 
Doxxing?
 
@Seth when you reveal someone's irl identity
 
1:49 PM
@Seth Releasing publicly someone elses private property informations
 
name, address, social security, etc
 
Hiya @Sam!
 
Hiya @Sam!
 
Doxxing means publishing someone's real name and adress online and/or sending demands to fire them to their employer or encourage other people to do so
 
Ahh, thanks :)
 
Sam
1:50 PM
Shhh! This was only meant to be a quick stop by!
 
\o
 
For instance we could doxx rene publicly revealing his real identity as a cactus
 
Too late now @Sam. You will be welcomed and cuddled and possibly have kyll thrown at you
 
@kayess and ask his gardener to water him
 
@AndrasDeak He would need Niagara amount of water then :p
 
Sam
1:51 PM
> SOCVR Cuddlefest 2016
3
 
Let's hug \o/
 
hug the cactus!
 
@AndrasDeak then you'll be in the hospital for the next week :P
 
1:55 PM
o/
 
|o
 
throws @Kyll at @PetterFriberg
 
tries to flap wings
2
realizes he doesn't have wings
2
 
1:58 PM
your not a flying Spearrel?
 
throws wings to kyll
 
catch (@MagichException ex){System.out.println("Caught you")}
 
How do you flap wings? Spearrels can't fly AFAIK
 
@NathanOliver not for a very long time
@kayess Ask an excited bird I guess
 
@PetterFriberg If any, thats a kyll.motion.ThrownKyllException
 
1:59 PM
thank you
 
aah ok, but those that not extends the @MagischException?
 
Throwing Kyll for me is not an exception, its a form of greeting
"Hello Si..." throws kyll
 
its an Exceptional greeting
 
accept the Kyll
 
2:04 PM
cc @PaulRoub ^
 
no no no
 
Remember that "Infiniteloop" guy editing his answer to keep track of downvotes?
 
Yah?
 
No?
 
Hell yeah
 
2:11 PM
I don't since we don't talk about users here ;).
 
I do though @Tuna
 
He reposted his answer after it was deleted. It's got 2 delete votes again, but since he made it a community wiki, so I figured I'd pretty up the post a bit.
 
I talk about kyll all the time....
 
Delete that answer or not?
Not sure if you can see that for deleted answers
 
Nope =/
 
2:13 PM
Hm, he rolled back my edit
Seems to think he's still the owner of the answer.
 
It is sad that they're being downvoted on Main though.
 
Meta effect
 
I always feel the urge
but rarely do I actually do it
 
Maybe it's better just to get rid of his answer... Again.
 
Meh, I don't like to vote to delete answers on Meta.
 
2:17 PM
Even crap like that, full of conspiracy theories? (Ohhai, @TheLostMind! :D)
 
> forum
aaaargh
 
@Cerbrus - Hello
 
Well, it is their opinion...
Hiya @TheLostMind
 
Community wikis shouldn't be opinionated
 
Hi @Tunaki
 
2:18 PM
Plop TLM
 
ah that is true
 
Plop Kyll, Andras, Mag
 
@TheLostMind: do you have a moment? (Link)
 
@TheLostMind hey:)
@Cerbrus why is it CW to begin with?
 
He made it a CW
 
2:20 PM
to avoid the non-loss of meta-non-rep?
 
@TheLostMind Plop \o
@AndrasDeak That's so meta
 
The fact he made it a CW means it's no longer his answer...
 
Oh if this wasn't SOCVR I'd have a great comment about the user's profile
 
Which means it should be at least somewhat decently formatted
@AndrasDeak ikr
 
@Cerbrus - Wow. What on earth
 
2:22 PM
Yea
 
@kayess - Plop
 
That guy is mad o.o
 
That's a repost of an deleted answer, @TheLostMind. Did you see the rev history on the deleted one?
 
Going through it.
 
stackoverflow.com/q/37728647/3933332 lol. The last two sentences..
 
2:24 PM
His profile says that he's specializing in "Online group behaviour". Is it possible that we are a part of his ... Master plan? Dramatic music
 
I'm pretty sure that post is just a trolling experiment about human ethology:P
@Seth it's not a question of being mad, it's a question of violating the room's rules
you have to be subtle, like me (sometimes)
 
Experiment or not, it's a crap answer
 
Now it's so direct that it's perfectly subtle. I do not even mention his name :)
@Cerbrus I agree. Ranty Q/As sometimes are fun to read (nonetheless bad), but this one is just crap.
 
Any way, I gotta get on teh road.
o/
 
\o
 
2:32 PM
Are close votes shared between main and meta?
 
@Cerbrus - Makes sense. He was getting too much attention because of that post. That's probably why he turned it into a CW
 
@TheLostMind but that doesn't make sense
the meta effect can't be hindered as long as your name is on the post.......
whoever is angry enough to search for your post on the main site will do that maximum 1 mouse click to see your OPing username...
 
@AndrasDeak - Yes. CWs are already a bad idea and right now, he probably thinks making it a CW will prevent people from DVing his SO posts
 
Futile.
 
I don't understand all these crazy people that go around dv the main site posts... in that he is correct.
 
2:41 PM
Hey @Braiam @Ferrybig
 
Plop
 
@Braiam, thanks I saw you fixed the jasper-reports meta
 
@PetterFriberg I know, right? It makes no sense. DV/UVs are supposed to reflect your opinion on that specific Q/A, nothing else.
 
\o/ Ferry
 
@Seth 10 million devs, wooo! Also: 10 million peoples to have arseholes among.
programmers or not, people are still people
some stupid, some malevolent, some outright trolls
it's what people do
 
2:44 PM
@AndrasDeak But but buuuuuut!
 
@PetterFriberg because people search patterns... because patterns are indication of a previous problem... because that makes us feel superior.... because we know we don't have that pattern
 
@Braiam We think we don't atleast
 
know, the core of the problem is that we know we don't
only everybody else is an irrational idiot
 
@AndrasDeak you haven't had a drink from this well? How you dare!
 
well
 
2:47 PM
@KevinGuan Which other room?
 
@AndrasDeak Looks like you need more Nathan.
 
maybe I do
 
for sure you do
 
Is needing a Nathan means to get a kick ?:p
Nat'd that is
 
I thought he meant objective, cool-as-a-cucumber stance towards fellow entities humans:P
 
2:58 PM
uh oh they are talking about me. must act like I was paying attention
 
:D
 

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