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8:01 PM
@Tunaki idk. looks poor
 
@Tunaki showing off your 30 delete votes?
 
I'm actually tempted to ask on Meta: it should be "delete votes" not "Delete votes" :p
 
oh look a flower in its natural environment
 
Hey, I can reach +200 with that.
 
Oh, btw I think we missed the CV event
 
8:05 PM
ops
 
oops you forgot an o
 
@NathanOliver wut?
I told you guys I wouldn't be in :(
So I can't leave you guys alone?
Siggghh
@close next 1337 tags
 
Ah yes I know why.
Closey isn't running.
Because gunr.
 
Call him in his meeting?
Or call his boss
 
4 hours ago, by gunr2171
oh, right, forgot to mention. Closey is going to be offline today. Server stuff with docker.
 
8:11 PM
lol
 
@rene Yeah with closey being aka it got forgotten
 
I thought these container thingies made uptime better ...
 
Wow
Someone really is watching the C# room.
 
Yeah.
 
8:18 PM
@Tunaki Look we share a Q today as well: stackoverflow.com/questions/37446813/…
 
Oh great! Awesome quality as usual.
 
:)
afk for the drive home
 
sends out warnings to all road users
 
nope @Yam
 
Hello!
 
8:34 PM
\o
 
8:47 PM
Good afternoon, fine SOCVRs
I have a question about an old duplicate
2
Q: MATLAB - To graph different ellipses at different heights

David VI want to graph different ellipses at different heights (z-coordinates). My idea was to write the following code: z=0:1/64:3/8; t=linspace(-pi,pi,25); [t,z]=meshgrid(t,z); x=cos(-t); y=cos(-t-4*pi*z); I would like MATLAB to read my code like "Find...

 
@gariepy Hello! What's the question?
 
Hello @gariepy o/
 
In my n00b days, I attempted to answer the question, only to have it close prior to submission. So, I kind of reposted the question, because I thought it was erroneously closed.
 
Try not to post direct link to questions, it one-boxes them to this ^. Just add a sentence with it so that it doesn't do that.
 
@AndrasDeak matlab ---^^
 
8:50 PM
@Tunaki Roger that.
 
@gariepy Why didn't you vote to reopen if you think the dupe is incorrect?
 
@PetterFriberg I've already brought this up here
 
You can also ping the person that hammered with your thoughts.
 
@Tunaki because, n00b.
 
12 hours ago, by Andras Deak
General policy question: there's a post that a user (was here yesterday) posted as a self Q&A, since a question he was going to answer got closed as a dupe. He disagrees with this closing, so he posted his Q&A. I left him a comment not to do this, but to have the original question reopened. Do you think I can/should do anything else?
 
8:50 PM
I was probably ~1000 rep at the time.
 
@gariepy I didn't notice that your Q&A was from January, although this doesn't change my stance on the subject
 
He =/ well what makes you think the dupe is incorrect?
 
yes, I saw your comment. Do I just flag the original with "please reconsider" and delete my re-post?
 
@Tunaki doesn't matter
if a dupe is questioned, the original should be edited and pushed in the reopen queue
 
instead of re-posting, yes that is for sure.
 
8:52 PM
@gariepy I suggest editing the original to make it as clear as possible
 
I think the dupe is incorrect because the question that was closed referred to plotting 2-D ellipses on a 3-D axis, which the "duplicate" question merely addressed plotting 2-D ellipses on 2D plots
 
you should explicitly explain why it's not a dupe of that post
when you're done, you should drop by in the MATLAB room (again, I know you've been around today) and let us know, we can vote to reopen if we agree with you
 
Yeah. This sounds convincing. You can add "This is related to ... but not a duplicate because ..."
 
Also, if the original is reopened and you can answer it, ping me in the MATLAB room before you delete your Q&A so that I can remove my downvotes first
 
ok, I didn't think I had enough rep to "vote to reopen"
 
8:53 PM
Lol.
 
@gariepy you don't:)
but we do
most of the MATLAB room does
 
ok, mathematically equivalent then.
 
Wait, at 2.6k you can't vote to reopen?
 
is reopen <3k?
I thought it went with closing
 
I haven't tried.
 
well, you should see a "reopen" link below closed questions if you can
 
@AndrasDeak that's what I expected, and I do not
 
Makes sense:) Close/open privileges come at 3k reputation
 
So close, and yet, so far
 
Well, FYI, you can ping the hammerer with @MrTheHammerer and they will be notified
and if you convince them, they can reopen single-handledly ;)
 
8:57 PM
in this specific case I'd be surprised, bla is not too talkative
 
So, you said edit the closed question to make it more explicit, right? but I don't have rep to do that either.
 
You can vote to close/reopen your own questions at 250 rep iirc
 
we're talking about the original, @Adriaan
 
@gariepy Hmm you should be able to edit.
 
Hmmm, just now it let me, did someone unlock something?
 
8:59 PM
situation now is: closed original, dupe --> gariepy Q&A-d the same thing
what we're trying to do: reopen original --> remove gariepy's Q&A, move answer to the original
@gariepy anybody can edit, but <2k you have to get through the suggested edits queue
>2k where you are, you don't even have to do that
but please make a good effort with the question, the non-dupeness is not really clear to me either, so this is more than just a formality:)
 
@gariepy I pressed the button. It does wonder sometimes :).
 
something something that's what she said
 
Uh-oh, it's magic!
I edited the question...do I ping the closeurs with a flag, a comment, Thor's hammer...
 
With the edit, it'll go into the Reopen Queue where reviewers will decide if it is reopen worthy.
 
@gariepy you can only ping Bla, who is rarely online nowadays
I'd even reject that edit TBH, as it is "intended to address the author"
 
9:03 PM
excaza is also listed
 
@gariepy of course you can ping him, but he can't single-handedly reopen
 
Hey SOCVR; I've got a pretty popular [burninate-request] going on: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/323641/…. It is at +60/-11. Should I be working on cleaning the tag up, or should I wait until it's featured?
 
@Adriaan I see.
 
Huh, there is no Matlab syntaxh highlight @AndrasDeak?
 
@gariepy To revise that: you can't ping him on that post (the only CVers which are pingable are gold badgers who dupe-voted), but you can look him up in chat
 
9:05 PM
@gariepy Why do you not make your own Q/A about drawing that 3d stuff that is not adressed in the dupe? @AndrasDeak, if it is different it seems that he can do his own, I love Q/A, let the dupe be???
 
@PetterFriberg: so I did re-post the question originally, with an answer, which seems to have got me in a wee bit o' trouble
 
I edited the question a bit also (title + body)
 
@PetterFriberg "let the dupe be" --> ???
you can't be serious
 
@MikeMcCaughan it looks like you have meta support so you can start if you want. We're currently in evaluation mode but I haven't planned anything yet to take on as the next tag. If you have casted close votes feel free to drop us a message and we'll be happy to filter on that in the queue
 
Okay, cool. Thanks @rene!
 
9:08 PM
@Tunaki for a very long time there hasn't been, we used the default syntax highlight. Which sucked, since ' is transpose in MATLAB, so every transpose started spurious string syntax highlighting. Finally, after 4-5 years of nagging, the devs changed to a reduced-support matlab prettify version, so now at least we don't have strings everywhere
 
@MikeMcCaughan Do note that if you start, best to leave a community-wiki answer to track the process
 
we believe that an odd but syntax-conforming highlighting is way better than a pretty, borked one
 
@AndrasDeak Well I see he edit in "which is what I am trying to do.", How does he know this. It just seems more simple if you have a good answer, to post a good question about this 3d stuff?
 
@PetterFriberg that's another option. But then it has to be not-a-dupe.
<Aragorn> One does not simply let the dupe be. </Aragorn>
 
Will do @Tunaki
 
9:10 PM
Yeah let the dupe be, post a question that fits the answer and hope for the best
 
This way, we can also burn some and follow progress :D
 
I think the end result for SO will be better, and he can make the question as he like
 
@PetterFriberg that's OK, but the current formulation won't fly
 
@AndrasDeak :D I think I always wrote it Matlab.
 
you can't have a post with a big-ass header saying "This is that closed question, but I wanted to answer it"
 
9:12 PM
So I was always wrong.
 
@Tunaki You're always wrong. FTFY
 
:)
 
;)
for instance, you don't like Nutella
 
True.
 
I rest my case.
 
9:13 PM
Maybe I'd like NUTELLA though.
 
@AndrasDeak On that I agree but if you help him out with the question (so that also others can post maybe you can do something nice)
 
Me? Something nice? rofl
 
lol, I liked the 3d graph it's cool
 
@PetterFriberg: thanks for the support!
And thanks for un-downvoting my duplicate of the non-duplicate. [directed to whomever did that]
 
I do not know matlab but I think if you like to do a Q/A, just leave alone the other question, make you own one, where 3d is important ecc, then answer it, do not check accepted, wait to see if someone else put a better answer...
Thats the way to go with the Q/A
 
9:20 PM
@PetterFriberg Well, in my n00bian mind, I was hoping to get the OP's attention by linking to his question so he could get his answer.
 
They won't even get notified of it.
Unless they search for that again, it's very unlikely...
 
@gariepy We do not really care about helping OP we like to create a great Q/A site
To do this we need great questions and great answer, if you can find a great question for your answer create one and let the community decide if it is great and maybe there is someone with an even better...
 
@PetterFriberg :)
 
AndrasDeak and the other matlab guys are tough so you need to put effort in question and in answer, but I'm sure they can help you out if you are not copy / pasting stuff but bringing something new
 
I know, between @AndrasDeak and @Suever, I've no chance to answer unless they both simultaneously spill coffee on their keyboards!
 
9:25 PM
Then give them the oppurtunity to answer and if you like the answer upvote it, that should be the community spirit
 
Haha, thanks, but I've been seriously slacking off for months:)
 
@gariepy :D just send them a plop!
 
teaching duties ate my procrastination time
 
Send them a good riddle. It will keep them occupied.
 
true a puzzle
 
9:27 PM
@gariepy you still have 2 downvotes, you just got upvoted
 
Good idea! And as a backup plan, I will send them lots of coffee, and coffee mugs.
 
you can tell from getting +10 instead of +2 or something, and I think you should be able to see vote breakdowns with your rep
yup, that comes at 1k
 
Oh, that's right, forgot about that. Yes, I just clicked: green vs. red, battling to a draw.
 
as I said, if you get the original to open and plan to remove your Q&A, I'll remove my pair
just let me know if/when that happens
 
ok
Since I commented on the hopefully-reopened question, will I get a notification if it is reopened?
 
9:30 PM
nope
 
nope
keep looking
there are no reopen votes on it so far
I looked at the posts in question, and I think you're right about the dupe @gariepy
OP's code is very misleading, and their text doesn't help much
Anyway, I voted to reopen
 
@AndrasDeak Thanks!
 
yeah spam
 
Has it ever been discussed here or on meta why you can VTC on a question, but not "leave open", and vote to reopen but not "leave closed" when viewing a question? As in: the options are available from review, but not from the question itself
 
because "leave open/closed" is homeopathy
 
9:40 PM
@Adriaan I didn't get you.
 
@Adriaan yes, at least on MSE
 
@rene kk
 
it means "I finished this review task, but I don't want to change anything"
it's a skip that increments your review counter
 
@Adriaan There is meta on this and we found a way to enter the review que from the question but it was shut down the day after...
 
@AndrasDeak well, no, since if I think a good question should not be closed, I can't vote to leave open, apart from the review queue, meaning that if I'd been in review another person would be needed to close it if I'd vote leave open
 
9:43 PM
Actually Drew posted a meta to get the "feature" back, I will find it for you
 
@Adriaan as I said, "leave open" is homeopathy
it doesn't do anything to the post
it makes you feel better:P
and helps in getting your badges
 
@AndrasDeak so if 5 people vote to leave open, the posts still hangs around in the queue?
 
of course
or if 50
 
Ok, I'm out
 
night @rene
 
9:48 PM
bye @rene
 
Sorry for the flags coming from JS, by the way :P
 
what did you do?? :P
 
Some guy has a hate-boner for us.
(We kicked him)
 
Bah, I clicked Invalid and moved on to... no, not more interesting matters :(
 
Anticlimax, eh?
 
9:52 PM
> An anticlimax or anti-climax is an abrupt descent (either deliberate or unintended) on the part of a speaker or writer from the dignity of idea which he appeared to be aiming at
I need another coffee now ...
 
!!/coffee
 
@AndrasDeak brews coffee for @AndrasDeak
 
@Tuna ^
 
oh thanks
Now I won't be able to sleep because of you.
 
it's probably made with a French press, so no worries, it's not actual coffee
 
10:01 PM
:D
 
@AndrasDeak says the chap who drinks his milk with a drop of coffee
 
at least 10 drops, and it's strong 10 drops:P
 
Plop @Kyll
 
P\op
 
cya I'm off, bed time for youngster like me.. plop @Kyll
 
10:13 PM
night @Petter
 
@gariepy I will gladly slow down some answering in exchange for coffee
 
@Suever I think the whole MATLAB room can chip in with the costs
 
10:34 PM
Stats: Folks appears 10 times. Y'all 2 times.
 
Hi @Sam
 
Sam
Hey
 
10:50 PM
@Tunaki is Shog a Texan?
Hmm..wasn't there something about "15k users can only set questions to protected if they have a deleted answer by low-rep user"?
But the privilege page says:
> Which questions can be protected?

Any question at least a day old can be protected and unprotected by users that have the privilege.
somebody should go to meta:P
 
Sam
Night o/
 
Night @Sam
 
Rob
11:04 PM
Morning all
 
Morning @Rob
 
night
 
night @Tuna
 
Rob
11:26 PM
Is it valid to edit 'full disclosure' onto someone's answer?
For example, this answer: stackoverflow.com/a/31263791/563532 - as per their profile, they're an "Architect in Visual Studio Application Insights team"
 
I wouldn't think so, but it probably depends on context.
@Rob That looks spammy. I'd leave a comment pointing to the "How not to be a spammer" help page.
 
Rob
Things like "Cloud friendlier pricing model" are so subjective and don't sit well with me, especially since it's a paid product, and they're working on it.
 
right
 
Rob
Not convinced it's spam.. but I think there should be a notice at the top of the answer
There's a comment saying so, but I didn't notice it for quite a while
Oh well
 
We could flag it as spam, but I'd rather give the benefit of the doubt leave a comment.
Wait, there already is one?
 
Rob
11:29 PM
Yeah, there's already a comment asking them to do so
 
11:41 PM
Morning
 
Morning @Kevin
@Rob I'm going to leave this comment:
> This post looks like spam. I know it's not intended to be, and it is a good answer to the question, but you're required to disclose your affiliation with Visual Studio Application Insights. Can you please edit your answer to include a disclaimer?
naa or spam?
 
Rob
11:57 PM
@NobodyNada Okay, cool
 

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