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6:00 PM
@NathanOliver do the kids nowadays even know what that is?
the cloud doesn't need defrag
 
Well it does but they do not have to worry about it. There is a whole generation of kids who never got to watch windows 98 defrag the HDD
f or n?
 
on the fence...
user profile has link to the product
without any fluff
2 months old account
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Yeah :)
 
try communicating first?
 
Sam
"We come in peace."
 
6:08 PM
I left my "spammer" comment
 
+1 for I love JavaAli Dehghani 5 mins ago
HAHA TAKE THAT C++
Boooooooooooooooooo
 
:P
I see you OOP and raise you free functions.
 
@Sam . . . "and red-flags"
 
Sam
Yeah.
 
Is that written in SQL?
 
6:22 PM
on it
 
op self answered less close typo
 
Close for SU?
 
not on it, I can't salvage that :/
 
I voted to close for SU as he want s to make a report in access.
 
I voted unclear, I don't understand.
 
6:26 PM
even though it was loud and unclear?:P
 
...
 
What can we do to help out Brad?, only watch out for B.V.B user?
 
2 hours ago, by Brad Larson
@NathanOliver At first, they all identified themselves with B.V.B.: http://stackoverflow.com/users/5428954/v-t-vishwanath-bhat?tab=profile but the newer accounts are being created with blank profiles and new names each time. I'm tracking based on location, but you don't have the luxury of that. All I can say is to look for patterns of cross-answering on complete crap and repeated plagiarism. Even the plagiarism they've taken to changing one or two words to make searches for origins difficult.
 
What is people's deal with plagiarism?!
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
6:37 PM
We had a user in Chem before that got upset when we asked that he cite the source he copies his answers from, and then he thought we have a problem with him.
 
I passed an audit hunny also. Yay \o/ I believe in you dear, see?
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
IDK. Words are powerful so they should not be stolen :)
 
@PhMgBr free internet ...
 
@NathanOliver unless you're forming a train
 
6:43 PM
Then they should be crashed :)
 
One cannot simply form a train. The train forms itself to make sense of the words.
 
Is this real life?
 
What is real?
 
What is life?
 
So many questions.
 
6:45 PM
Damn, Failed train attempt
 
Knowing is only half the battle
 
but knowledge is power.
 
Look up to the sky and seeeeeeee.....
 
you tried to make a train using 4 words. Us internet folks don't have that sort of attention span to make a train using a sentence.
I'm just a poor boy, I've got no family
 
'Cause I'm easy come, easy go...
dadaist train
 
6:48 PM
one of these days we'll make the train to end all trains
 
Sam
That'll be the day.
 
This day will shed light onto everything that the world is.
 
what day is this?
 
@AndrasDeak and now it's stuck in my head
 
@gunr2171 that's not a bad thing to have stuck in your head:)
 
6:49 PM
very true
 
Much better than, say, a nine inch nail
 
also very true
 
cue link to any NIN song
 
@AndrasDeak 4 inches too short
damn, beat me to the joke
 
6:53 PM
 
Tunaki passed an audit!
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
7:18 PM
done
OPs should have binding votes for every close reason
I assume it's a design thing, would have to be implemented
 
yeah
 
@AndrasDeak er, don't they already?
or is it just dupes
 
@PetterFriberg I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@TylerH just dupes
see the above
3rd of 5 is OP
 
7:24 PM
rene passed a audit!
@BhargavRao I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Bhargav Rao passed a audit!
 
I have returned
 
@Magisch hey
 
welcome back
 
I'll be visiting your lovely country next week:P
 
Hehe
Lovely Isn't what I'd call it
 
7:32 PM
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[priority]"
 
@AshishAhujaツ always good to pass comments to help OP, but not much sense on very old post, you only risk to get the OP agitated
 
"Not as trash as it could be"
 
Hey, the bar's pretty low for me;D
 
Sam
@Magisch wb
 
I keep reading that as white balance
 
Sam
7:37 PM
Hue hue hue
 
@AndrasDeak oh? take a detour to France, you'll be delighted
 
@PetterFriberg probably it's someone who's only somewhat familiar with Java or Jetty who flagged it
If you find it clear you should probably just vote "Leave Open"
I'd Skip that one personally as it seems like it is clear to people who know Java/Jetty but I'm not one of those people so I can't be sure
 
@BhargavRao You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 12 minutes and 45 seconds, averaging to a review every 19 seconds.
 
@Closey my stats
 
7:41 PM
@TylerH You've reviewed 33 posts today (of which 2 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 1 hour and 18 minutes, averaging to a review every 2 minutes and 21 seconds.
 
hmm I'm not really familiare to jetty but asking what the difference is between two classes seems like a clean question (it had 3 unclear votes on it)
 
Petter Friberg passed a audit!
 
now that's a tag to burn
 
61k questions
yikes
 
its was also a Leave open questiion, Hi @Drew
 
7:43 PM
easy peasy
@Drew o/
 
@Tunaki easy peasy @Drew?
 
@PetterFriberg that is not what they are asking, IMO. They are asking what streamId is different in that call. For that I would expect they indicate what id's they are planning to feed it. Only then you can reason if the implementation is capable of handling that.
 
yo Petter ... here's to you stackoverflow.com/a/36928662
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 35 minutes and 24 seconds, averaging to a review every 53 seconds.
 
@Drew What's that? (other than Italy being mentioned) :P
 
7:46 PM
you need to get out that map you and Tuna were looking at
 
I'm looking at a map?
Oooh yes I see it. This map. Oh it is so beautiful! Hey guys look at it! Admire it! I can't even... describe it, it is... it is JAVA
 
That small Island there is Corsica, iirc
NOT java
 
@BhargavRao Where you see Corsica, I see Sardegna
 
@PetterFriberg Corsica is the top one and Sardegna is the bottom one?
 
Corsica is Tuna land not mine
Hmm the 2 big ones are Sardinia and Sicily
above Sardina there is Corsica but its not included in map since its Tuna land
 
7:53 PM
Sicily is that one at the bottom.
 
yeah
and the small one near to land is Elba island
 
I mistook Sardegna as Corsica
 
Yeah, corsica is a bit smaller and above
 
My Geography is a bit poor.
 
well its not so bad considering your not from Italy : )
 
7:55 PM
Eh, I am from this World. We all are one :P
 
you are?
 
You think your geography is poor? You should come to the US. Half the people think Austria is the same as Australia
 
I'm not.
 
Java has moved to the Med? When did that happen?
 
@NathanOliver and Sweden is the country where they do clocks
 
7:57 PM
Did it swap with Crete?
 
lol.
 
anyway @Drew I loved the map, but still wondering about the encryption
 
I can't get the story out of my mind: Italy, the only country whose Air Force mistakenly attacked their own Navy
 
I think Italy have lost every battle .... but they are really good at changing side when the tide changes....
There can be no better UN soldiers then Italians...
 
The Germans wouldn't be a bad choice either
 
8:03 PM
Bye all, Time to sleep
 
and probably they also shot down a commercial plan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerolinee_Itavia_Flight_870
 
o/
 
@BhargavRao Cya
 
(Oh and there's some one searching for help in the bash room, if anyone free ya can go there :) )
 
> attributed the cause of the crash to a missile fired from a French Navy aircraft
wat? I never heard of that story
 
8:05 PM
@TylerH cant a girl wash dishes in peace?! :p
 
@Tunaki Yeah French or Italian
 
@cimmanon lol not when there's sass crud to wash off the plates
 
i am half tempted to close those as duplicates of the css canonical
 
but also americans make a mess when they are in Italy : ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese_cable_car_disaster_(1998)
 
i see that question pop up about every month
 
8:11 PM
@PetterFriberg seriously?
 
@Tunaki oui
 
> flying lower than regulations allowed, in order for the pilots to "have fun" and "take videos of the scenery", cut a cable supporting a gondola of an aerial tramway
incredible
 
@Tunaki What was funny about that one was that no one real understood what have happened in the beginning (the pilots did not tell : ).
they burned the tapes in true Italian style
 
just incredible
> finally confessed that upon return to the American base he burned the tape that contained incriminating evidence
 
Yeah it took weeks before the truth came out, and the pilots had already escaped back to US.
 
8:18 PM
what do you do with questions where the OP has absolutely no clue what they are doing? i mean so clueless that they would ask a question like "how do i add 2 numbers together in jquery?" stackoverflow.com/questions/36935013/…
 
@cimmanon typo / unlieky to help future visitors?
 
@cimmanon asking for off-site resources: aka a how-to guide for using sass/zurb foundation
 
@cimmanon to broad works well also (you need to explain to much)
and why not unclear ; )
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[priority]"
 
8:40 PM
Petter Friberg passed a audit!
 
@Closey thats it
 
@PetterFriberg You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 1 hour, 23 minutes, and 15 seconds, averaging to a review every 2 minutes and 4 seconds.
 
Thanks, and salute Tuna!
@Closey room stats
 
@PetterFriberg 15 members (15% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 442 review items today, which accounts for 26.89% of all CV reviews today.
 
Sam
Nice
 
8:45 PM
@Closey room stats details
 
@PetterFriberg Today, 13 members have reviewed a total of 357 items.
 | User           | Review Items Today |
 |-------------------------------------|
 | Petter Friberg | 40                 |
 | Ian            | 39                 |
 | rene           | 39                 |
 | Bhargav Rao    | 38                 |
 | Rob            | 34                 |
 | TylerH         | 33                 |
 | Serlite        | 32                 |
 | Tunaki         | 31                 |
 | Tushar         | 31                 |
 | ryanyuyu       | 13                 |
 | Magisch        | 10                 |
 
Sam
Ehm
 
@Sam please tell me about the 15% all people that entered room with >3k in what time period?
 
Sam
@PetterFriberg Last 2 weeks iirc.
 
ok thanks
 
8:53 PM
 
@Tunaki, give me a dup for this, was tempted to answer but the question is strange stackoverflow.com/questions/36945525/…
 
@PetterFriberg Um. I don't think there is one. This is a very weird / bizarre question that I would close as 'unclear'.
 
well its a jasper report user they are not really familiar to java, but the answer is to stupid, wrote a comment
 
9:09 PM
What is brown and sticky?
 
Sam
@Magisch Treacle?
 
A stick
ololol
 
Sam
-_-
 
9:40 PM
So a freak hailstorm started while I was out for a walk.
 
some that was nice : )
like 1 every month : )
 
Jasp
 
I got 40 rep today on So, so that is nice
and 200 on the workplace
 
200 you maxed out : )
 
9:46 PM
well 215
 
Sam
@ryanyuyu Sounds like fun.
I've been in this data centre for so long now that I've forgotten the feel of rain.
 
This week was well shit im glad its over
 
Sam
Yeah, same here. We've had snow, hail, the lot.
 
I dont mean weather
 
Sam
Oh
 
9:49 PM
our sysadmin is on week 1 of his 3 week yearly vacation
And everything broke
multiple times
And then I had to rewrite half of my latest project because someone changed his mind on features they wanted
 
Sam
You got 5 days off though. That's gotta count for something.
 
And I had 2 presentations in voc. school
Yes
Thats why I took all of next week off
 
@Sam yeah. It was very sudden. No rain, just hail. Definitely the most exciting walk I've gone on.
 
Sam
:D
 
Its so easy to get UVs on the workplace in comparison to SO
 
9:52 PM
@Tunaki finally documented that meta bug meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/321649/…
 
@Magisch same way it's easier on MSO?
 
on MSO its ridiculously easy
If I got rep from that I would have hit 10k a long time ago
 
Sam
@Magisch You should time your vacation to start with the sysadmin's next one. ;)
 
I'm an apprentice, they're not paying me well enough to care about that
 
Sam
Eh :/
 
9:54 PM
@Magisch answer for meta reputation query
 
@Drew I noticed it on MSO. Scroll too page 3 or 4, you have questions from 2014
 
12925
Yeap I would've hit 10k on meta easily
 
yep.
 
I got 35 nice answer badges there too
 
I have 7106 on MSO \o/
 
9:56 PM
so eh
 
Sam
<-- 8579 on MSO.
 
I know how to play the SE game, im just not good enough at coding yet to up my ante on main
 
Sam
Double my SO rep.
 
I finally win! 24.2k on meta (go away rene)
 
Sam
Nice :D
 
9:58 PM
My meta rep is over 3 times my main rep
gg wp
 
hmm only 1678 on mso can't even close vote
 
soon my workplace rep will eclipse my so rep
 
Not getting reputation makes sense, but it would be kinda nice to unlock certain moderative privileges based on meta participation. For example, I'd like to see deleted questions. Or get Kendra (would be 13.8k MSO rep) edit privileges.
 
@PetterFriberg Sometimes I come up with interesting ideas.
 
10:05 PM
Yeah yesterday I was checking that network its full of interesting ideas, I lost 20 minutes on this worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/4460/…
 
I literally never had a creative idea in my life
I think in numbers, creativity and aesthethic mean nothing to me
 
Immagine the gravity when the other planet pass, you could jump from one to another : )
@Magisch Well you joined SOCVR that seems creative : )
 
@PetterFriberg I like thinking about what-ifs. It's fun. And think of the extreme sports that could revolve around that gravity shift.
 
Yeah I agree its fun and I really like the answers there is a lot of serious reasoning, maybe I need to create an account there...
 
@PetterFriberg I'm not very active there, but it could be a great weekend activity. I'd recommend it just to vote for good stuff.
 
10:15 PM
First I need to understand what is good on that, site : ) I don't like the most voted.
 
@PetterFriberg yeah. Hot network questions can be very unreliable.
It's much easier to vote for answers there. Because they are obviously well-researched and thought-out.
 
He, I got a 100 rep quickly... now I can vote : )
 
Network association is amazing for this stuff.
 
Sam
@Magisch You're a programmer right?
 
@Sam Yah
 
Sam
10:25 PM
@Magisch So then, you would've used some creativity when designing classes, refactoring functions, etc.
 
No
 
Anyway I'm out for now.
 
I get a problem
 
Sam
Unless you've copypasted every loc.
 
I break the problem down into a mathemathical problem
 
Sam
10:25 PM
@ryanyuyu Cya
 
then I break that mathemathical problem down into smaller parts
which I then turn into modules
 
@ryanyuyu Cya, don't come back o/
 
Sam
@Magisch How's that work for variable names?
 
@Tunaki I though we were friends now?
 
@ryanyuyu cya
 
10:26 PM
Oh we are? Do come back then o/
 
Sam
This is why Tuna never gets anywhere with Closey.
 
@Sam I name them what they are
 
Ok. I'll be back then. Bye for real this time.
 
with a naming standard in front
 
@Sam He is using Kyll
 
10:27 PM
or kyll
depends
:p
 
Sam
@Magisch Please not Hungarian notation.
:p
 
but using Kyll is creative!
 
Sam
^ :D
 
usually <module_abbreviation><function container><purpose>_<number>
so when I dont use kyll I use something like DbcConnIsConnected_1
Coding is like a cooking recipe for me
 
Why _<number>? That's smelly.
 
Sam
10:31 PM
Good thing we all have different styles.
 
if I have more then one
 
lol
DbcConnIsConnected_2
DbcConnIsConnected_3
 
Actually using that up to 7 in some cases
 
Why would there be 3 methods to determine if the db is connected?
 
because one app we have is juggling multiple connections to several database servers
 
10:33 PM
why not : )
 
Oh god
The Code Review department must be out on a life-time party.
 
Sam
KyllPlopGeneratorIsPlopable_1
 
KyllPlopGeneratorIsPlopable_87
 
What code review department
lol
 
Sam
Lol
 
10:35 PM
Lol_2
 
Its a single disgruntled dude that got so fed up with people using kyll in variables that he said fuck it thats now our official coding standard
 
Your a lucky one, my clients run external test on code, so we need to respect all sonar cube rules and some I really hate
 
that's a good thiing @Petter! Yeah some default rules are a bit POB.
Like the spaces / tabs !!!
 
Sam
Yeah
 
I hate mostly the number of extends etc and function complexity rules.
 
10:39 PM
I code mostly in old trash bullshit languages that have to run on windows 98
 
Cyclomatic Complexity is 14 that is greater then 10....
 
Sam
D'you calc a maintainability index?
 
while loops with only one break statement, no nested if, some stuff I really hate
@Sam Nope
 
@PetterFriberg Weird. Two nested ifs are fine
 
To tell the truth they are most interested in security issues but since they do test we like to come really clean
 
10:41 PM
no nested if lol
one of our validation checks has 171 nested ifs
 
At least, I never encoutered violations with nested ifs.
 
Sam
Rofl
 
I mean one nested if thats 171 deep
:p
And its in VB6 to add insult to injury
 
Sam
Eww
 
@PetterFriberg But those are Minor IIRC. Not too bad.
I focus on >= Major.
 
10:44 PM
Y'all make me realise how trash at coding I actually am
 
True also client but when your at it (speciale with sonar eclipse installed) you fix all, to make a nice impression.
 
Yeah.
I remember one time. I passed an existing huge project to Sonar. There were something like +100 Critical issues.
I rofled badly.
 
I dont even want to know what happens when I do that
presumably sonar will just kill itself
 
Not sure it even analyzes VB6...
 
sonar actually also helps you to become a better programmer I had a bad habit of checking ==0 on float and double
 
10:47 PM
Oh it does sonarsource.com/products/plugins/languages/visual-basic-6 but it costs a lot of money!
 
Well we just spent 12k on a new kaspersky license
 
This is peanuts then. Push for Sonar, buy that plugin :)
Presumably, it won't like the Kyll naming convention :p.
 
not really as long as you remove the _ your are ok kylledPloppable1 is ok
 
But make 10 of those with 171 nested ifs...
 
Why does it have issues with use of _?
 
10:50 PM
@Tunaki lol
 
Well one of the nested ifs we have goes 171 deep
its basicly an entire program within a single if
 
the cyclomatic complexity will beat records
 
@Magisch you tell me I hate it since i used in actionPerformed calls example btnSearch_actionPerformed
 
One of our earlier developers who sadly had to leave the company didn't believe in functions and instead copy pasted code where he needed it
 
@PetterFriberg That's due to Java naming conventions. I don't know VB6 ones.
 
10:52 PM
True
 
I love Sonar personally. Especially the code coverage reporting.
 
Is sonar worth getting for private use?
 
Yeah its nice but you can also easily fool it
 
Every project I built from scratch myself had > 80% (and sometimes > 90%) of code coverage.
@Magisch What do you mean?
 
for my at home coding endeavours
 
10:54 PM
Yeah. I find it convenient.
It integrates nicely with the existing IDEs in the Java world. Not sure about VB though.
 
I wonder what'd happen if someone ran unobfuscated minecraft source code through it
 
in java you can install a plugin and you see problems as you code and no one is perfect so its nice, you learn about your weakness
 
But then you also need to remember that it's just a tool. It has FP and you can mark them as such, you shouldn't become a slave of the tool also :)
 

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