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11:03 AM
@PraveenKumar stackoverflow.com/q/36791679/3933332 I'm totally confused by OP and what you did:P Why 2 answers?
 
11:16 AM
@BhargavRao You commented there meta.stackoverflow.com/q/321523/1743880
 
@Tunaki Yep. Do you feel my comment there was incorrect?
 
@BhargavRao Not at all, just informing you on the meta :)
 
@Tunaki The user just invoked meta effect. That's sad.
 
Yep
@BhargavRao Yes there is a big problem. A BIG problem. Don't you see it? It's so HUGE.
 
Lol :D
OTOH the chat room will become famous
 
11:25 AM
Ah, so should I go there and ruin it?
 
Try, I bet you can't
 
:(
 
@tuna ruins everything
every last thing
 
If you guys want a fun read: stackoverflow.com/questions/36787678 . 180k user that really doesn't seem to "get" English...
 
@Cerbrus o_O
Is that a 5 year old that got on someone's computer or someone thats just really really intent on answering tosh all day long and beg for accepts.
 
11:36 AM
I'm flabbergasted
I think he even told me to check my privilege (here)
 
@Cerbrus I expect every developer or academic of any kind to be at least decently fluid in english
Doubly so when in the field of computer science
triply so when on a english software QA site
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/36787678/… The image in the comment doesn't help at all. With no freehand circles I have no idea for what I look in the image.
 
And with 180k rep, you should've gotten plenty of practice
 
@Cerbrus You don't need to be fluent in English to gain rep
 
@Rizier123 The other answer, inspite of showing the demo was downvoted. Got furious. Deleted. Readded the same answer with the contents of OP, proved it to work. Didn't get it accepted. LoL.
 
11:40 AM
@Tushar Fluent enough to understand "This is not my question", then.
 
How about moving on?
 
Happy Friday
 
@Tunaki Moving. Going home from office.
 
@Tunaki XKCD: wrong on the internet.
 
@Tunaki Its friday afternoon, we're all just killing time at this point until the weekend. Nitpicking over small things is the spice of life in here.
 
11:46 AM
I am wrong, you are wrong, everyone is wrong!
 
!!s/the spice of//
 
I mean we're in a chatroom about moderation on a QA site for developers. It couldn't be any less interesting and any more nerdy if we tried.
:p
 
stackoverflow.com/q/36792901/3933332 I gave OP a hint, but maybe it is "too far away". Maybe he doesn't know what JSON is or so. But I'm tempted to write: "Show progress for the next hint" :P
 
@Rizier123 How'd that get +2?
 
@Rizier123 I gave second hint
 
11:47 AM
@Cerbrus It's me! (No, the thing is OP can change single quotes to double quotes and then just use it as json to decode it to an actual array)
 
@rene IMO lets wait for meta to figure out if it is okay. IMHO if they are not hurting anything right now why bother. They can be taken care of if and when the post are stumbled upon naturally and someone decides to fix it up.
 
@Magisch Who is this guy: stackoverflow.com/questions/36793020/… just coping my comment :P
 
@Rizier123 Flagged for plagiarism ;)
 
What comment?
 
stackoverflow.com/q/36793050/3933332 Any good comments for that Q? (Don't know if this would even be on-topic on programmers?!)
 
11:51 AM
@Kyll has already been resolved I see
 
@Rizier123 ... Posted by a 10k user
 
@Tushar @Cerbrus stackoverflow.com/q/36793020/3933332 Bit on the fence here if we shouldn't have left that question just closed as unclear without deleting. If OP edits the question it goes into the queue and if it is still bad it stays closed.
 
We don't want non-english content on SO.
 
@Cerbrus Well you already saw earlier: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/30098318#30098318 there are many people over 10k which sometimes know less how SO works than a 1 rep user.
 
Even if closed
@Rizier123 You saw the 180k one I just linked, right? :P
 
11:55 AM
Yup saw that :P
 
I wonder if devs have some sort of uber power. The guy doesn't have a diamond but was able to tag it as status complete.
 
@NathanOliver yep, there was a meta post about that
 
cool
 
11:59 AM
hot
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/36793050/… Not sure if the thing in the parentheses is good or bad.
 
warm
 
@Rizier123 the OP should know better ><
 
@Kyll that battery question is utter crap and should remain closed. Shai's answer is brilliant, but that doesn't make the question any more on topic
 
I'd like to send a warning to three users who robo-approved a terrible edit. How can I do that? And should I do it actually?
 
12:02 PM
@Rizier123 The suggestion to go to chat?
 
@BhargavRao How does Pavel not have a diamond?
 
@Magisch He's not a CM
 
@NathanOliver Yeah...
 
@BhargavRao SE devs have diamond too
 
@EricD I know of case where bringing it to meta has caused mods to suspend people from reviewing until they can talk to them about it
 
12:03 PM
@Magisch *Few
 
@Rizier123 Looks fine
 
Dave Robin doesn't have
 
@EricD which edit
 
@Magisch I had this one in mind but it's more a general question actually. I've seen worse edits today and was wondering how I could warn these users.
 
@EricD I usually raise a custom modflag at the post the edit was proposed on (include the SE link regardless)
That has worked several times for me
 
12:06 PM
@Magisch Ah, of course, the mod-flag. I'm tired, should have thought of this. :p
 
The rare and elusive mod flag, seldomly seen in the wild.
 
@NathanOliver He got a lot of votes and comments on his question, so I wanted to end it with a bit of fun: stackoverflow.com/questions/36793050/… :P So we didn't wrecked the entire weekend for him.
 
@Magisch which is very surprising given the many sightings and their general long-livedness.
 
My custom flag from last week is still pending
>_>
 
pending is better than declined
 
12:12 PM
And Jon isn't here so I can't speed up the handling by sneaking some scooby snacks under the counter
>_>
 
Pending flags are just waiting for declined flags to combo with
 
it's just a flag, the world doesn't end if it's not handled right away
 
But neither does the spam post
 
The flag was about excessive self promotion
So it really bugs me :p
 
@Magisch sorry it's frustrating - we get around to it eventually
 
12:17 PM
@Magisch: I see that you good knows already "printf". Congratulation! You can still study C++ a little more. — Oleg 52 secs ago
o_O
 
C++ doesn't use printf...
 
don't pile on that answer, it's enough now
 
yes this was a poor attempt at insulting me because I told him to spellcheck his answers before posting them
 
Well you can and do when output is time sensitive
 
@JonClements Should non-English posts on SO be closed and then leave it for OP to edit it or delete it instantly?
 
12:19 PM
@Rizier123 Close as Unclear.
 
@Magisch Well, don't forget to spellcheck your posts, too ;-)
 
Don't feed the troll. It likes it.
 
thanks to the mod that cleaned that comment thread
 
May I pile on the answer now? :-D
 
@JanDvorak no you may not (joking or non-joking) :p
 
12:22 PM
d'aw.... ok :-(
 
But piling on is fun
 
@JonClements Thanks for cleaning that up.
 
and no, don't go piling on the other answer now...
 
"Everybody, get in here!" "Pile on!"
 
RO Note: Remember guys do not pile on on a post. It is okay to hand a comment thread off to another user if you are having difficulty explaining the situation but we do not need multiple people commenting on a post.
 
12:25 PM
It really annoys me when people smugly dont speak english and expect others to do their spell checking
It makes my downvote finger itch
 
@Magisch *don't
 
lol
 
Ofcourse you would.
 
*Of course
 
Are you never content with any sentences?
 
12:26 PM
lol
 
morning!
 
*sentances
 
This guy
 
moarning!
 
@NathanOliver no
 
12:26 PM
mooning!
 
now there is 3 ROs in here
 
Hye Gurn
 
@NathanOliver I'll also add - when a mod has stepped in and done "the needful" as they deem - leave it go :p
 
beat you
 
12:27 PM
NINJA
 
been gunn'd down
 
NinjaTuna
fight vs NinjaPuppy
 
Puppy would win. He would just flip him on his back.
 
LOL @Magisch, NinjaTune is actually an awesome label.
 
12:29 PM
dat bug
 
Tuna has no back
 
Can you not move your own messages with the archiver?
 
you flip tuna tuna is on front again
 
oh, crud, the post was also closed. I meant to just get rid of the duplicate message
@NathanOliver manual move
 
omg. I miss read. I thought you said ninja turtle
 
12:30 PM
 
@Magisch I can't parse that. If you meant "tuna; tuna", what did you mean by "on front"?
 
he forgot a comma
or an if ... then
 
tuna win everytime
there is no spoon
 
*wins
 
Hmm... Baseless question 40+ votes.
Pythoners are enjoying.
 
12:34 PM
@PraveenKumar are you sure there? Doesn't look POB.
 
@Tunaki Another person also has voted the same buddy. Isn't it POB?
 
Why do you think it is?
 
@Tunaki Depends on people to use the way they wanna code?
 
Not PoB imo
 
but that's not the question
 
12:35 PM
why they are slow is empirically answerable
 
Looks like it should have a technical answer. It is like why is vector faster than list in C++. There is a clear reason.
 
@Magisch how?
 
The question is why A faster than B. Not when to choose A over B.
 
Well
You can say (like the top answer does) why solution A takes longer to execute then solution B
 
12:36 PM
What takes time is known
 
@Tunaki Er... So no POB?
 
@PraveenKumar It's a perfectly valid question
 
and the implementation is also known
 
@PraveenKumar Not for me no.
 
@PraveenKumar no POB
 
12:36 PM
@JonClements Okay, so retracting my vote.
 
@PraveenKumar Stay open and good Q IMHO
 
@Jon: ah, killjoy *sadface*
 
I don't even python but I think this is actually really decent
 
indeed
 
So, are we going to feed this straight into the audit system???
 
12:37 PM
And cats rule.
The OP is a cat.
 
Not sure why you removed my first comments, though...
 
@JanDvorak Do you think it would make a bad audit?
 
Totally
 
Why?
 
Grumble
 
12:38 PM
Gargle
 
Waffles
 
For starters, several of the locals did cast a POB flag. Me included.
 
But why?
 
@Tunaki Totally
 
12:39 PM
@Tunaki down vote and delete vote for me
 
@Tunaki Trolled.
 
All right, poofed.
 
unless you mean, questioning language design decisions is OK if the language has a primary implementation and that implementation is open source?
 
Muarhar
I am become cat, feline destroyer of worlds
 
@Magisch meme detected; grammar check aborted
 
12:41 PM
@JanDvorak But why do you think it is opinion based? He is not questioning design decisions but he believes A is faster then B but when he compares it is the other way around and he would like to know why.
 
@PraveenKumar "by phpmadness" indeed
 
"why" could be opinionated
 
So
 
It could. But is it?
 
12:43 PM
unless the answerers know there is an official implementation and bother to check, they will guess.
 
If every implementation gives the same results then there has to be some fundamental reason. That is not POB
 
@kayess yes
 
@kayess Yes, and we nuked it
 
Handled
was in FPQ
 
@NathanOliver you assume that that fundamental reason is known or at least objectively verifiable
 
12:44 PM
It would be like "Why is accessing an indexed element in a LinkedList slower than in an ArrayList"
There is a fundamental answer to that
 
@JanDvorak If there is a reason, it is objectively verifiable
and things dont happen for no reason
 
does Python specify the implementation?
@Magisch don't
 
@JanDvorak That's why he came to SO as most likely we would know. I just see a way to call it POB when Data structures can be analyzed for performance and usability.
 
so, would "the spec doesn't say what the implementation should be; you'd have to inspect each implementation separately" be a valid answer?
 
Because a LinkedList doesn't have random access.
 
12:47 PM
does Python specify that an array should be backed by a linked list?
 
I don't know. But do you have a reason to believe it is POB, apart from it could be?
 
@JanDvorak Yes. If there is no specification you can answer that and then provide a guess if you want. Like why does char ch = 128; give me -127. technically it is undefined behavior but you can reasonably tell them why.
 
@PraveenKumar you cant vote to close questions until 3k rep
 
@cimmanon What? I know. I don't understand.
 
@PraveenKumar
Hold your horses on the smoke report
 
12:49 PM
you left a comment telling a guy with 2.5k rep that he should vote to close
 
Thats not abusive
<_<
 
@cimmanon Oh I am sorry. But he can Flag to Close. :)
 
@Praveen not abusive
that's not the first time
 
@NathanOliver but it is POB to tell why there's no implementation that does otherwise, right?
 
@Magisch You changed your profile picture, I like the new one
 
12:51 PM
We can't go around using red flags like candy
This is ridiculous
 
@Magisch you changed your avatar?
were you bjb the whole time?
 
@gunr2171 bjb?
 
hold a sec
 
I got the new one by googling "Happy kitten"
its the third result in pictures
:p
 
*it's
 
12:52 PM
Kittens eat tunas
 
no they don't
 
Yes they do
 
Kittens cuddle with tunas.
 
Proper tuna is way too big for housecats to eat
 
Before eating them
 
12:52 PM
@Tunaki What happened?
 
@Magisch You know, cats have teeth
 
@PraveenKumar Did you raise an abusive flag on the latest Smokey report?
 
@Tunaki I am not sure... Lemme check.
 
Yes, and it got disputed. Lemme be careful next time.
 
12:54 PM
It was simply off topic.
 
disputed? the mod was nice!
 
I would have declined that
 
@JanDvorak I still don't think so. Most languages try to be as efficient as they can. Even if they are not mandated to use a particular implementation they are generally required to have certain characteristics that limits what it could be to a very narrow set of possibilities.
 
Wait, mods can dispute flags again?
 
@PraveenKumar Yeah please do :).
 
12:55 PM
@Magisch this person
 
@Tunaki Yes, seriously.
 
bjb is very active in MSE tavern
 
@Magisch I would have flagged you in meta for that! :P
 
@Magisch I can see why one would flag that. The OP seems to be boasting rather than trying to ask anything.
 
@gunr2171 This guy has been here over a year and a half longer then me, lives at least 6000km from me, and is active in entirely different tags
 
12:56 PM
I'm just saying it's a coincidence that you have the same avatar
: P
no worries
 
Its the third picture in google image search when you search for "happy kitten"
^_^
 
*It's
 
@Magisch 1st *
 
@gunr2171 They do? I see a cat wearing glasses and and floating head.
 
@NathanOliver I changed my SO profile picture to a happy kitten
without the glasses, mind you
 
12:57 PM
@NathanOliver you're seeing things. Do you have some mental disorder?
 
Well look that. I still see the floating head in chat. I wasn't looking at the main profile.
 
@gunr2171 Yes. It's called excessive caching.
 
@NathanOliver: Chrome? I see the head too
 
@Cerbrus yeah
 
@Magisch 1st for me
 
12:59 PM
@Cerbrus chat just takes time to update the picture
<_<
its not instasync
 
*It's
 
oh ffs guys
 
@Ferrybig Yes!
 
12:59 PM
meanwhile, in a universe where grammar is not that important
 

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