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1:02 PM
morning
 
Would this qualify as a typo? OP is using Y but thinks they are using X
Hiya ryan
 
afternoon
 
@NathanOliver I'd say so o.o
@ryanyuyu o/
 
OK. Needs one more so I'll not post a request.
 
already closed witha delete vote
 
1:04 PM
2 now
 
Deleted now.
 
so efficient
 
Thanks guys
 
:D :D :D
Last Del Vote @AndrewLi...
 
:D
 
1:05 PM
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
plop!
 
Pulp
 
@M.A.R. orange?
 
@ryanyuyu Dunno. I'm not the pulp master.
 
1:09 PM
meh, mere edit should be sufficient
 
Just close it
 
And a comment asking what is actually wrong beyond "it's not working"
 
1:19 PM
Not sure if smokey was slow or I was fast :/
 
Everything is relative
 
\o/ updated my top answer after it got unaccepted due to a spec change and it got re-accepted
today's a win
 
@TylerH Highfive o/
 
nice tylerh
 
@TylerH yay!
 
1:23 PM
@BhargavRao Fast was slow and I was smokey
 
@TylerH party time \o/
 
@TylerH throw us an accept party \o|
 
okay
throws accept party
 
Dances
 
1:31 PM
sorta answery, probably not all that useful
 
It looks like it tries to answer
 
Thanks, Won't flag
 
meh BR
 
It's like a comment but they don't have enough rep to comment...
 
what do we do with link-only?
 
1:38 PM
fix or flag it
 
@JacobGray LQP
 
Meta says NAA, mods say unless x, y, or z
 
@Cerbrus wow - what an evil chuckle you have!
 
@BhargavRao answer
 
Combined with a wolf-grin :D
@JonClements: I have a question regarding a question of mine I want to delete
 
1:40 PM
"You have a typo in your code." "it should work tho"
 
I modflagged it, but it got declined: "we do not delete questions once they have accrued answers, as the posted solutions may prove helpful to future visitors"
 
@Cerbrus k...
 
The whole point of the flag is that the actual problem was unrelated to anything in the question
So, the question is kinda pointless... (And gathering downvotes)
 
oh you had some nice revenge downvotes there
 
Huh?
 
1:42 PM
It's 3.5 years old and I see you also asked last April :-)
 
I flagged it before?
Oh, I see. seems like that flag was still pending then
 
How does one request protection of a question? Mod-flag it?
 
@Seth 20kers can do that
 
@Seth: What question and why?
 
@Tunaki 15k
 
wow cerb you got answered by the jon skeet
 
So, @JonClements, could you please get rid of that question for me? It doesn't actually solve any problem. It's just a mess.
 
This question because it's attracting a s**tton of partial / VLQ answers.
 
@ColdFire: yea, and I'm requestion deletion of that :P
 
@Cerbrus He will come to haunt you...
 
1:45 PM
@Seth: Protected. Though it won't prevent 10+ rep users from answering.
 
ninjad by cerbrus
 
:D
 
Thanks ^_^
 
hehe tuna
 
@Kyll Aw, shucks, sir/ma'm and/or squirrel.
 
1:46 PM
lol
 
@PaulRoub What's acrophobe? :/
 
^ Why didn't I think of that before
 
@Cerbrus Why not close as no repo/unlikely to help and then we can delete it?
 
@Seth It's a CD I recorded a while back. @Kyll found it for some reason :-)
 
@NathanOliver: Ninja'd
 
1:48 PM
argh
 
@ColdFire That's epic. He's using the coding princess for his avatar
 
@PaulRoub Oh o_o
 
@Machavity yeah i saw
 
Just 2 more cv's :D
 
@Cerbrus Inb4 Jon wipes them O_O
 
1:50 PM
Yay, closed
 
@Machavity nice comic
 
Never mind
 
Ugh, even an answered closed question can't be delete-voted...
Can you guys delete-vote it?
 
Yes. Just not you I guess
 
@Cerbrus jon will haunt you because he got 1 answer less not and maybe 50 internet points less
 
1:51 PM
He'll keep the points
 
Refresh and try to delete vote?
 
I did. Can't delete my own question because it's answered, it seems
 
home free
 
Sweet. thanks for the help, guys
 
@NathanOliver "An error occurred: StackOverflow does not support deleting Jon Skeet answers."
 
1:52 PM
Wow - that was not on guys
2
 
@JonClements, seriously?
 
its undeleted
and not on hold
 
The question is garbage. The answers don't answer the actual problem.
 
@Cerbrus I was going to suggest you flag it and ask for disassociation... I'll pass it on to the CM team...
 
Well raise a mod flag I guess. The Q does need to go if you had a setting that you did not show that was the problem
 
1:54 PM
@NathanOliver I did. It was declined.
The actual problem isn't in the question:
I found the issue. The query contained USE [DM_{26852,43322,15594,15698,19163,66316}], instead of the USE [DM_{0}] I wanted to format. (The list of numbers is the ID override, while {0} is an ID placeholder). I forgot to replace that list with {0}, for use in formatting. Thanks for your help and time, @JonSkeet! I'll accept this answer, since you pointed me in the right direction. — Cerbrus Jan 18 '13 at 14:13
I guess I just don't understand why such value is attributed to a question that I asked a long time ago, where I came to the conclusion it's junk...
 
meta question? cerb
 
@Jois Not sure where you think you are but please don't spam here
 
@ColdFire: I guess I'll wait for Jon's answer, first.
 
@Cerbrus Well the problem is they do not care what you think. The question now belongs to the answerers.
 
1:57 PM
@Cerbrus the paradigm to follow here is that it's not really your question
even though you asked it
it's the community's
 
@JonClements What does that mean? o:
 
so if the community places value on it then it has value
but since we're a community we can of course have differing opinions about it
 
The community downvoted my question
 
which is why its OK to have the community both vote to close and vote to reopen stuff
and that not be in conflict
 
The only upvoted answer is by Jon Skeet...
 
1:58 PM
 
Really, the only reason that question still exists, is because of Skeet's upvoted answer.
And it doesn't answer the actual problem.
 
Mhm.
Best approach would be disassociation.
 
@NathanOliver Sanitarium?
 
Why not deletion? It can't possibly help anyone.
 
@ryanyuyu Thrash can
 
2:00 PM
@ryanyuyu new trash can
 
ah. Are the things there that insane?
 
@Cerbrus Because on the one hand it'd be unfair to keep the question linked to your account as stigma. On the other hand the answers are not bad and could possibly bear value for people reading them.
 
@ryanyuyu yeah
 
@Seth The point is that the answers can't.
Because the question doesn't make sense.
 
well if a question has enough doesnt it get deleted?
if not that is sad :(
 
2:02 PM
@ColdFire If it is answered no auto deletion happens.
 
ohh :(
 
Well I should say the answer has to be >= 0
afk
 
@Cerbrus I've got a CM on the line - if you confirm you want it disassociated, we can get it done... just need you to say so...
 
ntk
 
If it can't be deleted, then that's fine, @JonClements. (In other words: disassociate, please)
I just don't understand why SO wants to cling to questions like that, that much.
 
2:07 PM
okay - done
 
Is it possible to "disassociate" the comments on skeet's answer, @JonClements?
Note that if you delete those, you're deleting what's actually solved the problem.
 
I think there's a FR about that Cerb
it's not possible now
 
Bah... don't think comments can be...
 
Which is why I just wanted to delete the whole thing in the first place.
But thanks for the disassociation, at least. No more rep loss notifications
 
Anyway - the answer addresses the original question, then the follow up regarding formatting... so it ties in well enough for now... just forget about it :)
 
2:11 PM
You know what, maybe the comments should just be deleted.
 
What is the process to delete a horrible question? I asked a completely horrible question a while back, and it was closed. For some reason It got some upvotes, and I upvoted the answers, so I can't delete it xD
 
@Cerbrus already been done
 
@JonClements: Thank you
Sorry for nagging ;-)
 
damn
I need to buy sweets for helloween
 
"Hello ween"...
You perv.
 
2:13 PM
Hallow's Eve
Whatever you call it
 
Halloween
 
lol
 
> Helloween is a German power metal band founded in 1984 in Hamburg, Northern Germany.
 
@Cerbrus Kyll just calls it a spear
 
That one day a year where it becomes socially acceptable to extort sweets from people and egg their house or worse if they dont comply
12
 
Sam
2:14 PM
@JacobGray If you think the Q can still be useful to others you'd typically ask for it to be disassociated from your account by mod flagging your Q.
 
Followed by día de los muertos celebrations. Oh yeah
 
@Sam IMO, it's not any use to anyone, and the answers it got aren't helpful at all stackoverflow.com/questions/22570646/… I already mod flagged asking for deletion, but it was declined saying it had answers
 
Sam
@JacobGray Well I guess disassociation is the next best thing then.
 
@PraveenKumar Hi! I dont now what im expecting to see, thats why I wanna save the data into a file. — MrFoto 37 mins ago
LoL...
 
@Cerbrus ô_ô
@Magisch I'll place bear traps in front of my house. =)
 
2:22 PM
Should we roll the latest edit back? stackoverflow.com/q/40242376/4099593
 
@BhargavRao Gone ô.ô
 
Yeah
Half vandalized after it was deleted
 
ô_ô
 
Yeah, NAA. It's of the form "I am experiencing this issue as well."
 
2:30 PM
Thanks, flagged
 
@JonClements Can this question be unlocked now? Or is the disassociation process still active? :o
 
Is this too broad? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40237043/separate-php-file-for-admin-and-user-page

I understand kinda what they are saying but we have got no details really...
 
Just leaving it there for now in case of bumping etc... The lock will auto-expire.
 
Ahh, I see :) Thanks
 
Alrighty, time for me to sleep. Night all!
 
2:35 PM
@TigerhawkT3 Gn8 o/
 
\o
 
Cya Tiger
 
3:02 PM
@Tunaki there?
@SotiriosDelimanolis there?
 
Just scream "FIRE!", that usually wakes them up =)
 
Fire!
 
Scream, "Some one answered a NullPointerException question"
 
Some one answered a NullPointerException question
didnt work :(
any other java expert here??
i have a java question?
 
> i have a java question?
Are you asking yourself that? o_O
 
3:05 PM
nope, happy now
 
noooooo
they are blocking gmail at work
starting tomorrow
 
Lol, Why?
 
I don't know how much longer I can work in this environment -_-
"Observed security incidents and threats have required this change be implemented to mitigate the risk. "
 
nice tyler
you would be glad to work in a jail like environment
 
it all started with moving IT to the same web filter as the rest of the employees
 
3:09 PM
I use gmail and hangouts to converse with my manager \o/
 
well its good for the company
 
then they blocked filesharing sites, then they blocked shareware/freeware sites (including github), then image hosting sites (including i.stack.imgur), and now gmail/hotmail/etc.
 
its better they didnt block SO
 
I mean I could understand blocking yahoo because lol
but gmail -_-
 
Cya guys. Gotta go.
 
3:12 PM
o/
 
o/
 
@ColdFire what is it?
you got 10 minutes
 
@Tunaki come to sobotics
 
back
 
Sam
3:25 PM
front
 
full-stack
 
IMHO
 
Fill in the blanks now, [ ] yes; [ ] no; [ ] meh
 
I tryz but no workz, hlp plz ? tanks in advantage.
 
3:40 PM
try this
 
I get BSOD :(
@Yam cc @FrankerZ code added
 
Opinions? The author posted this exacted same answer to a different question already.
Mod flag warranted?
 
@Seth Exact same text. Auto flag is raised.
 
@NathanOliver Ahh ^-^ I see, thanks!
 
3:57 PM
The accepted answer is also his...
 
No clue why he posted 2 either
 
tbh, that whole question is pretty worthless
 
ryanyuyu passed a audit!
 
Hi Guys. My question was puted on hold as unclear, however I answer for all question in comments and update question with very specific details. Could you pleas check it and vote for reopen? stackoverflow.com/q/40243952/1988021
 
@NathanOliver @πάνταῥεῖ This one is all yours ^
 
4:09 PM
@silent_coder Hi! There are currently 2 reopen votes on it also. It takes 5 votes to do it, and your question is now in the reopen queue, where reviewers decide to reopen it or not. Let me take a look though.
 
Yeah, I'm not sure about how broad the question is in the context of c++.
 
@silent_coder It is now clear what you want but IMHO it is either too broad or primarily opinion based and should stay closed.
 
I don't have the knowledge to judge myself, but I made a slight edit.
 
@silent_coder Yeah "most elegant way for such kind of conversion?" is a bit POB, but I will premiate your effort!, I have worse question to close.
 
4:14 PM
Do you want to keep the first element in the nested vector<strings> and map it to the original value of the pair?
 
@Tunaki yes
@PetterFriberg thanks
 
ah no not the first I see
you want to flatten that
@Nathan for each pair<vector<strings>,label>, flatten that into a pair<strings,label>. There is the question of what to do with duplicates @silent_coder
a vector that would contain the same string, or two different vectors having a string in common
afk
 
Thanks guys for your attention in reopeening question. In result it will be feature_vector, which is something like {0,0,1,0,1,0,1...} not exact string, but it's not critical for those case I think.
 
You know the saying "give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, give him a fishing rod and he'll eat for a lifetime?" Well, this is basically the same thing: Supplier<Fish> fishingRod = Fish::new;biziclop 4 mins ago
fishy comment there^
 
Good morning!
 
Sam
4:27 PM
Hiya
 
Hiya Nobody
 
@Machavity That question is still unclear. (THX fo notifying)
 
Hello
 
Hi Nobody
 
4:30 PM
@silent_coder As mentioned your question is still unclear, regarding the flattening term.
@Queen k
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I think it's means make something flat. I write example of conversion, so this should be pretty clear. What kind of example isn't clear for you?
 
@silent_coder Explanation of your use case would be helpful. Looks a bit like a XY problem.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I use 3rd party classifier, which require forward iterators for initialization. So I need to implemtn kind of adapter for providing this. Similar to those text exists in the bottom of the question.
 
Hello!
 
4:41 PM
o/
 
Why do people still try to define the behaviour of undefined behaviour? stackoverflow.com/questions/40244362/…
 
@Olaf They are asked stupid trick questions in exams for instance :P
 
@Olaf Because we like more of an explanation then "because UB" :) Sometimes it makes sense in explaining how even if it is UB it will work 9X% of the time but this is not one of those cases.
 
@Olaf well, some kinds of undefined behavior can be defined. for instance std::cout << someUninitializedUint32 will pick any 32 consecutive bits in the memory and print the unsigned integer represented by these bits
 
4:48 PM
@NathanOliver: Not sure I read your comment correctly: If you mean 9x% of the time it makes sense to explain, I strongly disagree. It only makes sense if you want to dig deep into how compiler work, but never something you should even think about relying on. This does not mean certain behaviour which is UB by the standard is UB for a specific implementation, too. But these specific constructs are always useless.
 
which means that statement will never ever print 0 if there are no 4 consecutive 0x00s in the memory
 
@dorukayhan: No, it may not! You'd be surprised how much modern compilers exploit such things to optimise code!
 
@Olaf I think Nathan is saying if the specified UB works >= 90% of the time, those cases could be worth explaining. For the rest of them (as in the current case), it's not worth explaining.
 
@QPaysTaxes: Depends on the declaration of thing
 
What was UB again? Ultimate Boom?
Well, that was a close guess
 
4:51 PM
And still conform to the specs
And really obscure bugs.
 
@ryanyuyu: If you ever work with embedded systems and different architectures you are very careful about those "90%" statements. Note that I very well rely on certain UB as of the standard in low-level code. For e.g. MMIO read-only registers, you have to (you cannot initialise them). But I first make sure it is not UB as-of the implementation&platform.
@QPaysTaxes If it is a struct or union, there is a member foo and it has an appropriate type.
 
@Olaf I don't. I'm just trying to parse Nathan's English. And that's my interpretation of the previous comment.
 
@dorukayhan Interestingly reading an indeterminate object is in C no UB, unless it contains a trap-representation (which is not allowed for uint32_t etc.)
@QPaysTaxes When it comes to programming and such question, I'm paranoid. If nothing else, SO taught me that.
:-)
@QPaysTaxes Not really. It means the value is invalid. kinda null pointer for integers.
The float NaN actually also just tells that. It can be the outcome of an expression, but not just that.
@QPaysTaxes: Back to your question: Of course it is allowed then. How else would you "initialise" (not in the strict C sense) a dynamically allocated object?
@QPaysTaxes Seriously? Occam's Razor: what does memset do other than (char *)t++ = value_to_set?
 
5:11 PM
@Olaf Occam shaves with C#?
 
Well, the rules for accessing an object are quite simple if you use char or the same type all time. It becomes much more problematic if you use different types for the access (see "effective type" in the standard). Many ppl have a problem comprehending all implications of that one. I personally have to struggle from time to time (I always forget about the allowed exception for char, which I wish they'd banned/obsolecended from the C11 version finally).
@Machavity I Used uppercase for "Razor" intentionally ...
 
@Olaf No not 9X% of the time it makes sense. I'm saying there are time where UB 9X% of the time will give you the same behavior, like type punning via a union in C++. It is UB but there is no reason it should not work and if it does not then you probably do not want to use that compiler anyway.
 
I don't mean the language Occam, but the monk.
 
@Olaf I used it as a pun :P
 
@QPaysTaxes In C++ no if it is a class type
 
5:14 PM
@Machavity: I find C sharp. Not Csharp :-)
@NathanOliver I know it's bad practice to use malloc etc. in C++, but it is not banned. So how else do you setup the members?
 
@Olaf Well if it is pointer you use new which makes sure the constructor is called. After that you can do what you want.
 
In C++ if the object is a class type its lifetime does not start until the constructor is called so if you use it before that it is UB.
lol
 
@NathanOliver I'm here to fully backup of what @Olaf stated. I agree with him a 100% if not a 1xx%
@Olaf Sounds soo sexy ;) (Is c red haired and has freckles in the face?)
 
Yeah. So for C it is okay since they do not have constructors. For C++ it is UB.
:)
I would start answering more C questions but it is too pointy ;)
Ah. You want to look under the hood :)
Just be careful. Some things cannot be unseen.
 
5:29 PM
@QPaysTaxes Decided to finally ditch BASIC?
 
5:39 PM
@NathanOliver Whoever uses malloc for true classes should be punished with writing a document in Word not under 100 pages and 40 integrated Excel-tables and images anyway! @QPaysTaxes was after a C-style struct.
 
@Olaf That seems like a fitting punishment
 
10k CV reviews. I should try to get on the leaderboard in a few days.
On one hand, that wouldn't be fair. On the other, it'd be great for the CV queue.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Neither nor:-P
 
@Undo Who said anything had to be fair? Burn the queue down :)
 
animuson did 1000 in a day once.
Pretty sure that'd kill me.
 
5:43 PM
Wow
lol
 
@Olaf So I'll have to look further ;)
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Feb 28 '14 at 0:14, by hichris123
@animuson I have a proposition for you: since the Close Vote queue is getting lower as we speak, go review at least 1,000 more on your favorite filters, if not all 13,000. What's in it for you? Another cookie.
 
5:55 PM
@Undo Somewhere, rene is drooling at the prospect...
 
@Undo I managed about 120ish once... I was on the verge of screaming :)
 

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