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3:03 PM
sd fpu- that user is not spamming mmh k! Be gone Smokey!
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@Tunaki The next 3 tags are: 50, 44, 36
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
3:16 PM
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[image] [.net] [forms]"
@Pham next 5 tags
 
@Tunaki The next 5 tags are: 50, 44, 36, 33, 30
 
@Sam btw, Pham didn't catch that audit
 
@Tunaki You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 13 minutes, averaging to a review every 20 seconds.
 
Is this a joke question? I'm a little stumped how to handle it. stackoverflow.com/review/triage/10728886
It's ok, looks like someone else marked it as looks ok and it's passed.
 
3:30 PM
@Trevor It's not because someone thought it looked OK that you should select "Looks OK" ;)
 
I haven't voted on it yet. I'm not quite sure how to vote on it, but I don't think it looks ok
 
Good night, all.
 
Night T3 o/
 
I saw the result when I checked via the link I just posted here to make sure link worked
good night!
 
3:53 PM
did I miss anything?
Stack Overflow is not a support website for Twilio, and I see now that they link to Stack Overflow as 'Twililo Support Community'; we are a programming website and have absolutely no affiliation with Twililo; Twililo shouldn't have sent you here. The fact is, your question can only be answered by Twililo customer support; you've already done that and they said 'no'. Try emailing them- Twitter is not the best method of obtaining customer support. — cybermonkey 15 secs ago
!!/alive
 
@cybermonkey Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring
 
4:15 PM
meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/313692/revisions That rollback war :P Just leave it or make a flag for a mod?
 
@Rizier123 Jon just rolled it back again and locked it, so it has already been noticed :p
 
damn you Jon, I was writing up an answer!
 
@gunr2171 I think you still can, just enable the button again with the console
 
locked by MOD, yeah, I'd rather not tempt him
 
@SmokeDetector edited
 
4:22 PM
ugh, if it wasn't for the fact that I needed to redo the image I would have gotten it in time
: (
 
@gunr2171 What did you plan on posting?
 
that
serious and neutral answer to what I wanted to be a serious and neutral question
 
It's interesting how a 64K user would want to ruin his reputation over some hats :p
 
"freak outs" happen to everyone
low and high rep
 
Okay so when you edit a post that was flagged as NAA/VLQ, the flag gets cleared. But, does it remove it from the VLQ queue?
Because I flagged an obvious NAA earlier, which was later edited and now I'm not sure if this will be deleted by the queue.
 
4:35 PM
maybe if there are existing votes on it?
 
@gunr2171 Sorry!
 
It's ok, I fully understand why you needed to lock it
and I hope I didn't spark a fire by doing the initial edit
 
It'll unlock automatically tomorrow if not manually unlocked later today if you still want to post an answer then :)
 
Ok, I'll keep an eye on it
 
Maybe I'll ninja you just for the fun then :D
 
4:37 PM
I wonder if my "post answer" button will reactivate itself
@Tunaki :P
 
@gunr2171 Do you have an easy way to check posts that are currently in the queue?
 
me, no
"and repayment duration of your choice" how about 100 years?
 
user4639281
Boo!
 
hey tiny!
 
user4639281
Hi o/
 
4:41 PM
o/
 
Must. Get. Blackcore Edge. Where I buy?
 
Meh, I'd rather get Subversion Edge
 
@gunr2171 But that post was SO CONVINCING!
 
:D
 
@gunr2171 Make sure to add a line about "I'm answering this hoping to earn a hat! I LOVE HATS!!!!"
And, for the record, I do kinda like hats.
 
4:45 PM
lol no, the last thing that thread needs is a non-neutral voice
 
Especially when you can wear them as facial hair.
 
user4639281
Meh, I'd rather get Bleeding edge
 
@TinyGiant you know, you're training me to always check
 
user4639281
admittedly that article isn't very recent
 
user4639281
lol
 
4:48 PM
I'd rather get Lemon Pledge.
 
@MsYvette I moved your messages because our automated script would not pick up the second message, no worries
 
user3956566
@gunr2171 oh so it wouldn't have made sense
 
Weird case: what happens when there is a suggested tag synonym on a tag that has no question? (example)
 
user3956566
@Tunaki I don't understand which tag has no posts?
 
which is a suggested tag synonym to
 
user3956566
4:58 PM
@Tunaki oh I didn't see that. It's really, "I want to rename a tag, not suggest a tag synonym"
 
user4639281
@tripleee @Sam and for everyone else's reference: Do not ask for up or down votes on any posts. While Shog9 has allowed organized voting in chat rooms, we do not want to be seen as a voting mob. Our goal requires a certain level of support from the community at large, as such we don't want anything in the transcript that could be perceived as us treating people unfairly. github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/SOCVR-RoomInformation/blob/…
 
6:20 PM
^also the link-only accepted answer on that post, too
 
SO is pretty much on holidays, but you guys business as usual
 
Yes, I guess we try to catch-up ;)
 
can anyone suggest a method of cleaning-up a user's answers where 90% of them are link-only? This user seems to be mostly linking to documentation on their employer's site (affiliation IS disclosed): stackoverflow.com/users/919971/…
 
I'm not going to touch that
 
... Wow. I have twice the FPS on TF2 Linux I had on TF2 Windows.
 
6:31 PM
@cybermonkey Those answers doesn't look too bad to be honest. I see no reason to do something.
 
^ There should be a hat for reading through that question.
 
@rene even this? under normal circumstances that would be considered NAA
 
@cybermonkey without the link it still conveys information
the question is doubtful
 
@SmokeDetector edited
@Kyll sweet!
 
@gunr2171 I also randomly crash to desktop
 
6:35 PM
not sweet!
 
not link-only, but this is most definitely NAA (doesn't answer the question, requests more info)
 
user4639281
@Kyll Yeah it runs pretty quick on linux, haven't tried it on windows. It seems to slow down somewhat when my computer is crashing tho...
 
user4639281
@cybermonkey NaA and VLQ flag requests on not allowed here, spam and offensive are though.
 
@cybermonkey Isn't the question customer-support? Also what Tiny said
 
user4639281
See: Can I request flags? (from our FAQ)
 
6:36 PM
@cybermonkey I know you're talking about a user with a lot of similar posts, just be aware of the "don't ask for NAA flags" in case this gets out of hand.
durp, Tiny beat me
 
user4639281
ninja'ed!
 
user4639281
brb
 
magic'ed
 
@TinyGiant I'm not requesting flags, I'm asking about the answers (since I already raised a mod flag)
 
Don't worry, you're fine right now, it's the "just in case it gets further down the road"
RO's: reminding you of the rules that you already know since 2013
@Kyll TF2 Wednesdays?
3
 
6:40 PM
@gunr2171 If I manage to make it run without crashing, yeah, absolutely
 
@cybermonkey How we constantly misinterpret your intentions is striking. If you already raised a mod flag why the &^%$$ are you discussing it here? Why are you wasting my time?
 
(uh, I think you starred the wrong message)
3
 
user4639281
@cybermonkey I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but it looks like you're referencing the post and saying it is NaA, not asking whether it is or not. In a world made of text, language is everything.
 
user4639281
But anyways, I will never condone scanning a users profile and looking at every post they have made, that is stalking focusing on a user which is never a good thing.
 
Oookay so I think TF2 hate multiple desktops.
 
user4639281
6:52 PM
You can run tf2 in windowed mode on linux, then just make the window manger hide the borders and titlebar.
 
user4639281
I made that sound way simpler than it really is
 
yes you did
 
user4639281
Woot second time I've had an HMQ.
 
Let's try in Windowed mode yep
 
We can't play Team Fortress on Wednesdays until TF10 comes out
Then we can call it TFTensdays
 
user4639281
6:55 PM
Yeah, because that makes sense...
 
@gunr2171 hmm, I was pretty sure hats was opt-out, not opt-in
 
Actually KDE makes borderless easy
 
@Kyll KDE?
 
user4639281
@TylerH No you have to opt in. Then you can opt out at any time.
 
^ correct
 
user4639281
6:57 PM
@Thaillie magic'ed en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE
 
user4639281
@Kyll Bah, KDE. I guess that is alright if you're not running Rawhide.
 
Weird, I don't recall ever opting in, but I definitely opted out this year and last
 
user4639281
I distinctly remember having to opt in. The first thing that was mentioned was the snow-flake, then I opened the menu and clicked on an "I love hats" thinger.
 
user4639281
Easy way to tell. Hold on.
 
> You can opt out of the event by clicking on the snowflake icon in the top bar—Winter Bash notification to the right of the standard notifications, inactive—and then the "I hate hats" link at the bottom left of the box that pops up. (NB: the reverse is true on Stack Overflow; fans of hats on SO will have to go through the same procedure but click a link to opt in at the end.)
 
7:00 PM
It seems KDE hates OpenGL in some way. Had to logout, couldn't access any window anymore.
 
har har har
 
Trying again...
TF2 froze, no I/O according to the hard drive light...
Oookay there we go. crosses fingers
 
SO is strictly opt-in for hats - each site's moderators get to choose whether they think the community would like them on/off by default... we even get reminder emails: "This is just a quick follow-up to the previous e-mail to remind you that, as usual, your site is a special case. On most sites, when hats are enabled, users who dislike hats must turn them off manually. On Stack Overflow, even when hats are on for the site, users who want to see hats must still opt in manually."
 
Aaand crashed to desktop.
 
@JonClements ah, that makes sense. Thanks
We're special™
 
user4639281
 
o_o Apparently 1396 files failed to validate and will be downloaded again. That's 8GB or corrupted data? Seriously?
 
@Kyll why you so bad at computers?
 
user4639281
Is that with steam or your package manager?
 
No idea
 
user4639281
...
 
user4639281
7:05 PM
Is it turned on?
 
Race condition: I was answering gunr. It's with Steam
 
user4639281
Lol
 
There's a ppa for TF2?
 
we're not competing Kyll
 
user4639281
No, I was wondering what was failing to download.
 
7:07 PM
Well, 3 more hours of download. Yay.
 
user4639281
Try running steam in a terminal so you can see the verbose output.
 
Might still make it for TF2'dnesday
 
@Kyll what a coincidence! I have 3 hours left of work!
 
@gunr2171 Did you corrupt my files?
 
no comment
 
user4639281
7:08 PM
 
@TinyGiant I wanted to launch TF2 from the terminal, couldn't find the file lol
 
attracting
rubbish
 
user4639281
@Kyll Look at the .desktop file which makes the icon.
 
Off to dîner. Bon appétit!
 
@Drew wouldn't "asking for resource" be better here? POB also works, but I voted resource
 
7:11 PM
important thing is closure
 
@gunr2171 you rebel
 
maybe not scratch that
 
ehhmmm yeah the first part is OK
just the "and is there any tutorial" line should probably go
 
want me to move that request for you?
 
sure thx
 
7:20 PM
1 message moved to Trash can
"handlebars.js", javascript people come up with the strangest names
(then again, that can be applied to all programmers)
 
7:35 PM
one more X and we would've had to do something about it
but 34 Xs is ok
 
user4639281
It's repeating characters sure, but it looks like an actual thing, no?
 
yeah I was just being silly
 
user4639281
:P
 
anyone ever here someone say "I second this question" ?
my memory must be going
 
Been writing automation scripts at a rate of ~1 or ~2 per day. My boss said this morning he wants me to do 30 today -_-
@Drew yes I've heard it before
it's just like, "I second that motion"
 
7:37 PM
like it's up for a nomination or something
 
in cases where the question might get ignored if it doesn't seem popular enough
 
oh I know that Tyler
 
user4639281
Wow, three close votes to dupe a specific feature request to a general discussion. Looks like I've ticked a couple people off at some point.
 
you want a link to a free flag then !
 
@TinyGiant it does seem like a duplicate...
 
7:39 PM
@TinyGiant Ping me if it gets closed
 
user4639281
It's not though. One is a feature request about a specific thing, the other is a general discussion about a larger set of problems. Two different types of questions asking two different things.
 
user4639281
@MadaraUchiha Will do.
 
well I see it as you wanting negative reputation changes to be "seen" when you click on the reputation tab, correct?
The marked duplicate is the exact same thing, just covering any reputation loss, not just bounties.
 
user4639281
No, not at all.
 
That's a clear canonical IMO
 
7:41 PM
@TinyGiant wait wait wait, you can't just say "I'm disengaging" in a comment, that defeats the point :)
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 That was for everyone else more than him.
 
ah, ok
 
user4639281
@TylerH I'm asking to not have to check the achievments dialog to mark bounties as a seen change.
 
user4639281
And I'm specifically requesting a feature, whereas the duplicate target is just discussing whether there is a problem or not.
 
user4639281
But anyways, that's enough discussion on the topic for now. Sorry for venting my frustration here.
 
7:47 PM
the two overlap enough that I doubt anyone is pissed off at you, they probably consider it a true dupe and just missed that it doesn't have the feature request tag
@PaulRoub that edit needs a reject as well
 
@TylerH Was about to ask. It will look like format-only to a robo-reviewer, but edits away the source of the problem.
 
@tylerh btw I meant that 2nd the question in the context of an Answer. Sorry
which, it is obvious without looking at it why he did it
 
@PaulRoub looks like it's not because of a typo after all
oops, wrong ping
well, it might be still... just waiting for her to add the HTML
 
@TylerH The joy of evolving questions. The original question, matched with appropriate HTML, worked fine after adding the punctuation. Anyway, "I'm disengaging" from that one.
 
hehe, kk
now Tiny Giant will be room-famous for that line
 
user4639281
8:02 PM
Lulz
 
user4639281
8:15 PM
> Possible duplicate of [Blatant off-site resource request].
 
user4639281
8:34 PM
Just got a text from my wife: "When you get home, add some boiled peepholes to the soup, then the kids might eat it."
 
"boiled peepholes"?
is that an autocorrect fail?
 
user4639281
Totally, she meant perogies.
 
user4639281
thanks.. ill be here all week. — user5732058 2 mins ago
 
@PaulRoub closed
 
^ I'm really tempted to make a comment "no, you'll be here until the post is deleted"
 
8:37 PM
@TinyGiant wow, he stole my joke
Apr 30 at 19:33, by TylerH
@Sam Better switch to Stereo, then
 
yeah, I know :D (to Tyler)
 
user4639281
Joke thieves, the worst form plagiarists.
 
Joke stealing, the worst form of word-copying.
 
I'm at such a loss to continue that train that I'm just going to get back to work, instead...
2
 
8:46 PM
I'll call that a victory for me
 
user4639281
Lol
 
user4639281
8:59 PM
@MadaraUchiha It's closed.
 
figures
 
@TinyGiant Three reopen votes left
 
@TinyGiant Nope.
 
user4639281
@MadaraUchiha Thanks :)
 
Mind you, there's probably a dupe somewhere
It's just not that one.
 
9:02 PM
ie: "your post lives to see another day" :)
 
user4639281
Maybe, but I couldn't find one. And yeah, it isn't a dupe of that one.
 
@MadaraUchiha If that one gets tagged then it is that one
 
user4639281
But the question isn't a feature request, it isn't requesting a feature, it does not propose a feature, it is a general discussion. Tagging it with the feature request tag would deviate from the original intent of the post.
 
it's pretty clear that it's a feature that Oriol wants
you can't get much clearer in your intent than "please change it"
but it's true that Oriol has yet to tag it as a
 
user4639281
So I could post a feature request that says "Please fix all irregularities on Stack Overflow", and every feature request dealing with irregularities could be duped to it?
 
9:07 PM
the moment he does, however, it not only wouldn't change the original intent, it would serve to better cover the request you've made because it's, like whats his name said, probably the exact same code that needs to be changed
@TinyGiant No, and it's misleading for you to suggest that as a valid analogy, shame on you
 
user4639281
It doesn't propose a solution, so how does it "cover" my feature request?
 
well it does propose three solutions actually, but they are not fleshed out because Oriol didn't put as much effort into making a quality, detailed feature request as you seem to be expecting
 
user4639281
None of his "some ideas" include what I'm proposing.
 
either way, the complaint in Oriol's post is that rep gains after a loss are not being shown until the gains outweigh the loss. Your feature request covers one scenario where that happens
 
user4639281
One of his "some ideas" is already implemented: "Display reputation losses when expanding the list", that already happens.
 
9:12 PM
your proposal even assumes what the devs would have to change anyway, which is splitting rep loss and rep gain counters apart
 
user4639281
Oriol's can be then reduced to "Notify reputation losses or Notify reputation gains, even if there are unnotified reputation losses" whereas mine is proposing "Mark unnotified reputation losses from bounties as notified automatically".
 
no, reputation losses should already be notified
if they aren't currently, it's a bug
his can be reduced to "notify reputation gains separately from reputation losses"
 
what if Guy1 wants 1 thing, and Guy2 wants 3 things. You are saying have Guy1's request be squashed and buried cuz it is discussed in what Guy2 wanted (which could be more and is more) which will get low-prioritized cuz it asks for more. btw TG is Guy1
 
it's a better implementation than automating notification of a change anyway because we shouldn't be hiding reputation changes from users
 
user4639281
I don't understand what you're saying. The little badge that notifies you of rep changes doesn't notify you of changes if your reputation is lower than the last time you opened the achievements dialog.
 
user4639281
9:19 PM
So I just don't want bounties to qualify for that condition, because by posting the bounty, I already know that I've lost that reputation.
 
fight fight fight!
 
user4639281
Lol
 
In other words, you guys are really going at it
 
user4639281
I think there's just a bunch of misunderstanding going on.
 
Peeks in, reads transcript, backs carefully out and closes door quietly...
 
user4639281
9:22 PM
But anyways, as with the last time we discussed it... this would probably be best discussed on the meta post, or in a separate chat room.
 
@TinyGiant So if it's the case that reputation losses don't show up as a red -X in the achievements bar (which I really thought there was), then they should start showing up, and rep lost from posting a bounty should be included in that, and losses for any reason should be counted separately from gains for any reason, so that you can see -50 in red from a bounty you just posted, click it, then have someone upvote your answer and see +10 in green, rather than not seeing any green til +51
 
user4639281
@TylerH That's the way it once was, it was changed because apparently shoving reputation losses down the throat of a user is "rude".
 
And their "accounting" system makes stuff vanish once reversed. It's voodoo. It's intentionally voodoo.
 
user4639281
The problem is that not all negative changes to reputation are... err... negative.
 
when are they not?
 
user4639281
9:28 PM
Downvoting bad answers or posting bounties
 
user4639281
That's sacrificing reputation for the good of the site.
 
that's negative in terms of numerics
 
user4639281
Not in terms of connotation.
 
user4639281
It's a negative change with a positive connotation.
 
how about deleting your own answers. add that too
negative to me. Positive to the world :P
 
@TinyGiant reputation is handled as numbers, so connotation is irrelevant
we only care about connotation because we assign intrinsic value to reputation as a concept
 
user4639281
@TylerH But the reasoning behind hiding it is that all negative changes have a negative connotation.
 
oh, well then that's wrong too
 
user4639281
Thus, connotation has been added to the equation.
 
someone get me a Stack Overflow dev to yell at
 
user4639281
9:31 PM
Lol
 
inb4 shog appears and yells at me
 
user4639281
reasoning behind not showing negative changes (specifically mentions negative connotation of negative changes.)
 
user4639281
@Drew Not an answer, but not malicious enough to be spam.
 
note I did not report (but my bots are on it)
 
user4639281
Just giving my opinion on your review request.
 
9:46 PM
just handing out freebies :P
 
I'm out for today cya!
(but still around in ~45 min for TF2)
 
user4639281
@Rizier123 gotta run, but that actually seems like something regex could reasonably do, though a DOM parser would be better.
 
10:08 PM
fgitw on an unclear question, hurray! stackoverflow.com/questions/34537917/…
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
rene passed a audit!
rene passed a audit!
@Drew You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 16 hours and 49 minutes, averaging to a review every 25 minutes and 53 seconds.
@rene You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 15 minutes, averaging to a review every 24 seconds.
 
10:27 PM
What I love most on Plasma is how it crashes all the time.
 
Spam? stackoverflow.com/a/34538086/1324 User has posted 8 answers in 15 minutes, mostly to old questions, all plugging the same site/product. Some acknowledge the affiliation ("we built this"), but not all (e.g. this one).
 
@PaulRoub yes flag away
 
@PaulRoub Custom Flag one or more for attention, provide links to the set.
 
Of course, some of them are on old, off-topic questions...
 
11:01 PM
On my best question T.T
 
you have a stalker :p
 
11:18 PM
/me very sad
@Tiny hey, let doesn't create a block-scoped variable in for..in or for..of loops? for(let value2 of arr) { setTimeout(() => console.log(value2), 0) } outputs the last value of arr instead of each value. Shouldn't it behave like a legacy for ;; loop? Doing some research on that.
 
Should we leave this: stackoverflow.com/a/34538380/3933332 or can I edit it out or so, because it's a loooong way to scroll down
 
user4639281
 
@TinyGiant Normal that I'm not seeing anything?
 
user4639281
Gotta click run
 
I don't see any code, at all
 
user4639281
updated, try that
 
Still nothing
 
user4639281
11:38 PM
That's odd
 
Tried to disable adblockers & co, still nothing
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
For me that outputs: 2, 2, 2 / 3, 3, 3 / 0, 1, 2 / 1, 2, 3
 
Really? On Firefox Dev Edition: 2, 2, 2 / 3, 3, 3 / 2, 2, 2 / 3, 3, 3
 
user4639281
Firefox are borked then.
 
11:45 PM
I expect your output to be correct, and due to the use strict I suspect you are on Chrome
 
user4639281
Yeah
 
user4639281
Submit a bug report.
 
user4639281
Or look for one first.
 
Apparently it's well known
(Expand "let")
Woah, Firefox leads the browser ES6 race now!
 
user4639281
Based on that I shouldn't be seeing what I'm seeing...
 
11:50 PM
?
Yes you should
 
user4639281
It's saying chrome doesn't have for loop block scoping for let.
 
You have to look a few lines below
Yes, in non-strict mode
 
user4639281
ohhh
 
Chrome is pretty much the only one to support it
 
user4639281
hmm
 
user4639281
11:51 PM
My browser says 58% support, what does yours say?
 
The reverse: 85%
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
Can't wait until it is 100% for all modern browsers.
 
@Rizier321 @Rizier123 uh.
 
WTF, who did this?
 
11:54 PM
Same kid as before
 
But why did he used my name, just with reversed numbers?
 
Suspect he's watching this room
 
Yeah, the other troll account was around too
 
I protected the question, so he won't fill the post with useless answers.
 
user4639281
@Rizier123 Doesn't realize Stack allows duplicate user names?
 
11:56 PM
@TinyGiant If being a troll made you knowledgeable...
 
user4639281
Yeah, they are in here.
 
@TinyGiant Is IE11 a modern browser? Because you're going to wait for a long time ^^
 
user4639281
@Kyll IE11 isn't a web browser, what are you talking about?
 
user4639281
@Kyll dos minutos
 
11:58 PM
@TinyGiant Are you writing an answer for it? =p
@TinyGiant That one HTML viewer used by default on Windows 7 and 8
 
user4639281
Two minutes till close votes rush back in.
 
user4639281
@Kyll I know not of the product which you speak, you must be making it up, lalalalalalalala I can't hear yooouuu...
 
@TinyGiant Just think of the market shares. Yes. It's IE6 again!
 

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